Thread 96877479

>Previous thread:
>>96837162

>What is /awg/?
A thread to talk about minis and games which fall between the cracks, or peoples' homebrew wargames.
The >>>/tg/hwg thread doesn't entertain fantasy (for good reason) and the other threads are locked to more specific games.
This thread isn't tied to a game, a publisher, or a genre, let's just talk about fun wargames. Any scale, any company, any miniatures.

>Examples of games that qualify.
A Song of Ice and Fire, Argatoria, Batman Miniature Game, Carnevale, Conquest: The Last Argument of Kings,
Deadzone, Dragon Rampant, Dropfleet and Dropzone Commander, Freebooter's Fate, Frostgrave, Gaslands, Judge Dredd,
HeroClix, Kings of War, Maelstrom's Edge, Malifaux, Marvel Crisis Protocol, Masters of the Universe: Battleground, Moonstone,
Oathmark, OnePageRules, RelicBlade, Rumbleslam, StarCraft, Stargrave, Sludge, Urban War, Void,
Warcaster, Warmachine, Xenos Rampant, Xenotactics...
...and anything else that doesn't necessarily have a dedicated thread.

>Examples of companies providing rules and/or miniatures for alternative wargames.
Archon Studio, Atomic Mass Games, Black Site Studios, CMON, Mantic, North Star Military Figures,
OnePageRules, Osprey, Para Bellum, Seb Games, Spellcrow, TTCombat, Victrix, Wargames Atlantic, Warlord Games...
...and many other publishers.

>Places to get minis; Updates to the minis list are welcome.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1D2DbNJ2mYAUxh5P9Pq9NZqS5tXHGn0i2JhZchEwbA2I/edit
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/373197.page

>Novice Troves, meant to serve as a sampler of available systems. Check out the Share Thread for up-to-date troves.
https://pastebin.com/MjtsC8AX
https://mega.nz/#F!zSYW0I4a!vXh8-UPi_tWXpJES_-p4zg

>Hobby Challenge theme for October
https://strawpoll.com/GPgVYBPYEna/results

>TQ
October came to its end. Show us your entries for the monthly Hobby Challenge

At the very least the StarCraft game should have a rule to start with a choice of buildings and said units will respawn as long as their building isn't destroyed. After Halo Flashpoint release it's not even such an alien or risky thing anymore.

>Zenit shipping the KS to the USA
Hooray!
>up to 20% tariff
I retract that hooray.

I NEED THE STARCRAFT TABLETOP GAME RIGHT NOW!

Anyone got an English scan of the Chronopia Sons of Kronos rulebook? TIA!

>>96877690
Then tell them to hire marketing specialists to promote it because now it is all but unknown.

>>96877690
I wonder if StarCraft will be yet another case of /tg/ underestimating the nostalgia-driven demand and turn out to be successful (by alternative wargames standard of course).

>>96874900
They are on par with GW quality. I think everyone who has their stuff says the same thing. I got their Beholder and Townsfolk box a while back and they are very decent, looking at Trench Crusade's sprues they really caught up to GW.

>>96877690
The Chernobyl Green grass is /grog/ kino, not gonna lie.

>>96877858
What is this GW quality meme? I built a MESBG Troll Cave few months ago and the gaps around his neck and shoulders plus left side were massive. About a month ago I built a free Space Marine sprue and it was finnicky as fuck with lots of fiddly parts for what ended up being a monopose figurine anyway.

>>96878141
Never had Cave Trolls so not sure what they are like but I'm into Horus Heresy and kits for it are very good

>>96878141
>I built a MESBG Troll Cave few months ago and the gaps around his neck and shoulders plus left side were massive
Next time check the release date on the sprue - that should answer your question.

>>96878141
GW quality myth is spread by 40kuck who worship GW and try to justify the outrageous price to themselves. Their plastic quality is pretty good and has very minimal mold lines, but they are all absolutely dogshit to assemble and the sculpting of the models themselves are really bad. It's really obvious a lot of their newer models were made by interns working for peanuts. They routinely fuck up basic anatomical proportions. Pic related example, how long would someone neck have to be to fit in this costume?

>>96878200
Sculpting and the actual design of the miniature has nothing to do with production quality. GW plastics have zero flash (very common with some Warlord kits for example) and almost no mold lines. Archon is very much identical in that regard. They too, have bad sculpts and sometimes mediocre designs, but the production quality is excellent. Since with StarCraft, the design is not their own, the result should be great, if you like the StarCraft design to begin with.

When is the starcraft miniature game supposed to come out?

>>96878264
Early next year. preorder starts in December.

>>96877768
It should have a pretty good launch just b/c nostalgia selling starter sets, but who knows if it will have any legs.

>>96878304
The initial sales/preorder stuff is guaranteed to be good, but the rules need to be good enough to keep people interested in it, thats for sure.

>>96878264
>>96878287
Pre-orders start around January / February, they said they need to iron some things out.

Here's some more info if you are interested
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGRY9Y9qWWE

>>96878159
Its like 25 years old at this point, isn't it?

I'm in need of some 15mm werewolves with rifles. My 15mm range knowledge is not great - I basically just know the Battlefront stuff for Team Yankee/FoW, the existence of Peter Pig, and that's about it. Any pointers on where I should be looking? I'm okay with having to do some conversion work, though I'm not great with metal models (lack of experience with them outside Infinity).

Steamforged decided to get spooky and do some necromancy for Halloween.

THE DEAD RISE!

I don't want to play with v3.5 slop. Is it possible to find OPR v3.4.4 books still somewhere?

Its spooky Halloween day. Post your stuff guys.

>TQ
I didn't do the October hobby challenge. Doing Halloween theme was retarded, I'm not going to buy models for a monthly challenge than I can't use outside of Halloween.

>>96878676
OK fag.

>>96878689
I have more sex with women than you, fag

>>96878676
>He doesn't have a single army that could use skeletons/zombies/mummies/witches/bats/literally any kind of monsters or spooky scenery or even objective markers
Lack of imagination? No-models perhaps?

>>96878701
Lol sure thing fag boy. How about you post any model or game instead of crying about something you didn't want to participate in to begin with?

>>96878611
I wanted to upload them, but then I realized I only have 3.4.1

>>96878662

Here are some of my spooky lads... And the pitmommy.

>>96878819
The only ones I need are Age of Fantasy Skirmish books. I have no idea how I ended up not saving them considering it's my favourite OPR game.

>>96878880
Sick
Those dogs are creepy.

>>96878714
Nope. I don't have and am not interested in an undead fantasy army

>>96878949
Mind showing us your /awg/ armies then?

>>96878968
I don't need to prove myself to you, fat boy

>>96878567
Steamforged should let GB lie peacefully in the grave they dug for it.
Rat bastards.

>>96878880
What's that pyramid head guy?

>>96879034
Lmao, colour me surprised. I accept your concession.

>>96879135
Plastic terrain/scenery stuff is always overpriced.

>>96879050

Brother of silence by bestiarum miniatures.

>>96877479 (OP)
>TQ
Here is my project. It was really fun doing a themed challenge and I'm looking forward to the next one.

>>96879135
>>96879147
While true, it should never reach, or exceed, GW prices.

>>96879248
Sexy. Makes my ghosts look like little wussies.

>>96878880
take more pics of the cavalry please. ARe those blasphemous inspired¿

>>96879439

I can take some more after I've come back from MMA training.

>>96879439
>ARe those blasphemous inspired¿
Yeah, the entire line he's using to convert the pyramid head was pretty directly inspired by Blasphemous 1. Tempted me badly at the time, had other projects.

>>96879050
I legitimately figured the Lamplighters were essentially going to be the only 'new' thing they put out after the relaunch.

The crossover models look pretty good.

>>96878819
>>96878908
were there rulebooks for 3.4.4? I scraped the entire site for GF, GFF, AOF and AOFS, but I only have the rulesbooks for 3.4.1, only the armylists were 3.4.4

>>96877737
I have the base game and though I haven't played it in oh, about 16 years, I can tell you the minis suck. They're full of random spikey bits and odd angles and tiny so they look like knockoffs of the original designs. It's as if they didn't get the license for the game and had to do not-starcraft minis. Just for that it's overpriced.

>>96877479 (OP)
My October project. Didn't check the scale so she's way too big to use as anything other than a boss monster, but it was fun non the less

>>96880242
Sex.

>>96880219
Also I don't recall it being a game where you build bases and micromanage the different buildings for resources, but rather where you compete with the other players to claim different planets instead.

>>96880044
I assume they've co-opted the community council effort to keep the game alive and healthy re: ongoing balances and releasing the actual finished complement of fucking guilds.
Fans were writing, sculpting and releasing [free] product so that GB would live for several years after being axed, and I'm honestly surprised the dogs that run SFG allowed the enthusiasts still employed there to return to releasing official product for it.

>>96879439

Here you go. Lordsguard cavalry from Bestiarum miniatures. Great designs, but I wish the spear shafts etc. Were sturdier, as they snap easily.

>>96879780

I thought they were inspired by silent hill?

>>96880469
Nice, I Really like them, the helmets give a very Insectoid/mosquitoe like vibe.

>>96880500

Yeah it's basically an exaggerated hounskull bascinet. The bestiarum team have a great eye for aesthetics. However, I wish they made the models a bit sturdier and released more multipart kits.

Also thought of buying the turnip28 lancer kit, as they are modular, have pistols and disgusting hairless mutant horses. Would fit to that army quite well. Just need to buy the 2nd edition of dragon rampant and try make my son play it with me instead of just Xenos rampant.

>>96880549
They look easy to customize, but then turnip is a lot for that.

>>96880109
No, there were no 3.4.4 rulebooks indeed. Only armybooks received update v3.4.4. If you have armybooks v3.4.4 for Skirmish, I would be grateful for sharing.

>>96880242
I want to lick her tummy.

>>96878701
>He doesn't uphold monogamy like an exemplary member of society.
Unsurprisingly, you also own no models, hate fun challenges and are a faggot.

It's the 31st already and still no Dragon Rampant 2e pdf.
Life is pain.

>>96880697

I've seen some points calculators done in excel floating in Facebook. They contain the new fantastical rules too.

>>96879147
Yeah it's even worse if you get into scale models and dioramas

>>96879093
Imagine not owning a single alien or monster or anything fantastic, but still posting in awg.
Even a /hwg/rog should pick up a graveyard or something at some point.

>>96880607

hope this works
https://gofile . io/d/SOoSIG

>>96880939
Very based of you, thanks.

>>96878159
If you reread my post you'll see I got a very recent sprue that was released last year for all I know.

>>96878200
>>96878232
Oh, maybe there was not much moldline on the free Primaris thingy? Dunno. Didn't pay it too much attention because I was trying to fit all of these tiny pieces that no monopose should ever have any right to throw at your face. Anyway thanks for answering my clueless ass.

>>96881040
>I got a very recent sprue that was released last year for all I know
I don't think so. The only plastic Cave Troll GW released is pic related and the mold is from 2005. It makes it older than most Anons in this thread. There is no other plastic Cave Troll in GW's model range so you either don't even know the name of the kit you bought or don't understand the difference between the kit release date and kit manufacturing date.

>>96878389
The Cave Troll sure is but the 32mm Space Marine was released last year for all I know and it was a very frustrating experience in its own way. Plus I could already read back then how GW was so fantastic so I was genuinely surprised by how both kits had their own huge issues when I started working on it.

>>96879135
Fuck me. Now it's guaranteed the sick church loot kit will be the same absurd pricing.

>>96881103
>It makes it older than most Anons in this thread.
come on, no way...

>>96879093
>>96880933
Not that I want to interrupt you gatekeepers continuing to violently make out with each other every thread but since when was the bar lowered from nogames to nominis

>>96881204
Post games

>>96881103
Sorry Luigi I realize where we got mixed up. I wasn't claiming my Cave Troll was very recent; I pointed out to you the second part of my first post: a very recent Space Marine kit that came with it's own issues.

For me there was no point focussing on the Cave Troll being old because the newer SM dismiss any "such where the times" argument. Given, the shitiness cursor has moved quite a bit and it's not about gaps anymore. Hurray I guess.

>>96881204
>since when was the bar lowered from nogames to nominis
Since people our age started to end up with full-time families, 60-hour workweeks and/or cancer. I only see my mates once every 3-4 weeks if stars align and I would play a wargame only once every 2-3 months if it wasn't for my wife that is not so much into wargaming but she enjoys painting miniatures. I have hard time to shit on people for not playing games but the hobby aspect of wargaming is something that is being done in solitary in most cases anyway so there are no excuses.

>>96881118
>>96881119
>>96881322
>Our age
Just curious, how old are people here? I'm soon turning 41 myself.

>>96881455
30

>>96881204
Having zero minatures is a sign that an anon dosen't play games. It'd be like asking a ttrpg player to post his character sheet.

>>96880316
What are these dudes from?

>>96881455
33

>>96881513
The big dude is one of the new konflict 47 germans and the bodyshield looks like one of the americans from the same

>>96881455
37 in 2 months.

>>96881455
Nearly 30, but none of the things >>96881322 said apply to me.
Still, I'm studying a second degree and writing a book, also happily autistic with very little social interaction, which leaves little space for games but lots for hobby time.

>>96881455
45. This thread has some of the oldest oldfags on the site.

>>96877479 (OP)
Taking child out for the night with folks out-of-town, will try to have pics up for the challenge tomorrow

>>96881455

35, started teaching my son how to play wargames so that I don't have to memorize GW churn (which is fine if you play with decent people). This week we put together a box of stargrave automatons so that he got to choose which parts to use from the sprue. He giggle triumphantly at the thought of making a figure with a chainsaw and a flamethrower for arms and laser eyes.

>>96881576
>some of the oldest oldfags
I'd say that's /hwg/, no snark intended, but back when I was a regular there, I remember some 60+ year old anons posting.
Then again, it's been long enough that they may not be around anymore.

>>96881322
I'm not saying we should bully no-games, but it's Alternative War Games, not Alternative Miniature Collecting.

>>96881599
I remember 60-70 years olds posting on /b/ 20 years ago when I first came here. Feels weird to know they're probably gone. Feels weirder to have had lewd Skype calls with a sixty year old mega milf.

>>96881455
36

>>96881667
There's little difference for most people in the hobby

>>96881455
40. No wife and kids or friends anymore really. But I can still wargame against myself too.

>>96881576
>45.
sup bro

Artizan, part of North Star miniatures, has some new interesting sci-fi stuff

>>96881675
Lucky bastard, love an older woman me

>>96881455
37. I actually get weekly games now, even if they are done via Tabletop Simulator and voice chat. It lacks the charm of in-person but at least I get quality time with my best friend.

>>96881774
>Lucky bastard, love an older woman me
Never give up, Anon. I met my girlfriend through a game and we're happy as hell, even if she is technically what the kids call a hag now. I'm still going to fertilize those eggs. No power on Heaven or Earth will stop me from spawning my autistic kids.

>>96881793
I have a gym bunny gf my own age (33)

But it's not the same lad. I want to be some mature woman's plaything.

>>96881667
>it's Alternative War Games, not Alternative Miniature Collecting
There is a reason why people keep saying that wargaming is 90% hobby and 10% gaming.

>>96881455
35. My wife can't be bothered but my boy is now old enough so it's less "yeah okay local mate we'll play 40k" and more "check daddy's new game!"

I sure don't have the time to spend all arvo on the bed reading dense rulebooks and army crafting anymore but I've been well served by Xenotactics, Ravenfeast, Ruthless, any Osprey, etc. Waiting for a liberated copy of Dragon Rampant 2 so I can introduce the boy to Lord of the Rings.

Also don't forget we are a dying breed. GW selling more and more shit every year is hardly boosting interest in other games since Zoomies are happy with whatever slop they have on hand and don't even feel the need to explore anything else.

>>96881802
Mine is a year younger than I am. As amusing as it would be to try to get an older woman and be the younger boytoy, I'm genuinely in love and very happy. Grass is plenty green where I stand and that's fine with me. Plus she loves miniature wargaming.

>>96881455
32 going on 33

>>96881821
>Waiting for a liberated copy of Dragon Rampant 2 so I can introduce the boy to Lord of the Rings
I know MESBG is a GW's game BUT the previous edition is not supported anymore therefore I see no reason to not recommend it. It's simply a great game, all the books have been pirated long time ago and Oathmark kits make for great LotR minis.

>>96881827
I know I'm getting old because I went to a model train store looking for specific basing materials and only stopped myself from walking out with an entire N scale setup because I have too many hobbies and not enough tables already. I don't even like trains that much.

>>96881858
I know that feeling far too well.

>>96881675
>60 year old
That's disgusting anon.

>>96881845
Thanks but I love "real-time" combat resolution à la Lion Rampant/Infinity were both party roll at the same times too much. There's no way back for me I'm afraid lads.

>>96881455
34.

>>96881910
She looked early 40's. She was a personal trainer and... well I will not go into further detail in /awg/ of all places.

>>96881957
I wish the snakemen in frostgrave actually somewhat resembled the art on the front of the box.

Wow, actually disturbing to think I'm both the youngest and probably hottest and most fit anon in this thread. I will keep this in mind when posting from now on. Much to think about

Enjoy your functioning knees and metabolism capable of processing alcohol and caffeine at the same time while you can.

>>96881793
God speed Tylenol bro.
>>96882544
>most fit
Post bench

>>96882544
13 years ago I was posting nearly the same post.
How time passes, huh?

>>96882544
>most fit anon in this thread.
Plenty of /fit/ posters in /awg/, surprisingly. Zero regret being a fa/tg/uy who shed the actual fat and started a daily work out plan and healthy diet. I want to play more games, paint more minis and enjoy /awg/ to the fullest.

>>96882774
Post 5k time, lard ass

>>96883211
>Avoiding the question
Confirmed dyel.
>5k time
Dunno desu I use the stair climber for those leg gains. I usually do a couple hundred flights if stairs.

>>96881455
31.

I play once a month for Mordheim and been trying to set up Burrows and Badgers in my area

>>96882544
>actually disturbing to think I'm both the youngest and probably hottest and most fit anon in this thread
Yes, that level of delusion IS pretty concerning.

Reaper Pumpkin demon, not technically finished because the basing material I wanted to use vanished, how spooky.

>>96881827
At least GW used to fill a useful function in the wargaming space by bringing in kids that might eventually move to better games. Now they're focused on squeezing the kids that previous iterations of GW brought in 10-20 years ago, probably leading to a massive collapse in their own playerbase eventually as people get older.

>>96880962

sweet, glad it worked. Out of interest, whats up with 3.5? I was about to scrape all the lists again but heard there was some drastic changes so was waiting for it to settle down. Is it still in a bit of a state? I thought it was just adding some rules to make things a bit more unique?

>>96878611
gofile . io/d/BFAeki

>>96883911
They tried to make shit more unique and totally-not-Warhammer which lead them to turn OPR into even bigger keyword soup. The update was half-assed at best so the rules, naming and interactions are not even consistent. They will sort it out eventually but personally I see no reason to switch to v3.5 if I was perfectly happy with v3.4.

>>96883994
I think you have to change the privacy settings for all armybook folders.

>>96881455
29.

>>96883222
I ignored the question because it's retarded and proves you're a fat ass. Fatties ALWAYS fall back on the bench press because it takes zero athleticism or fitness ability to lay on your back and press for 5 seconds of effort. In fact, if the "sport" of powerlifting is any indication, the bench press even FAVORS being a fatass.
Whereas any young athletic and fit male is able to run a decent 5k, something that is prohibitive to fatties and old broken losers. Meanwhile, I regularly see old 60+ year old boomers who are built like used tires laying on the bench repping out 250, 275, 400+.
Can you run a max effort 5k? Can you rep out 10 clean pullups? If you can't then you're not fit and no one cares about your bench press fatty

>>96884280
Obsessed and off-topic. Buy minis and touch grass.

>>96884280
You're the one that claimed you were the fittest.
You didn't have to type out all the cope.

Post games noodle arms.

>>96884280
>Can you run a max effort 5k?
I'm not saying cardio isn't important for health, but it's definitely a skeleton cope. You aren't fit if you aren't strong.
>Can you rep out 10 clean pullups?
I'm mostly doing 220lb lat pulldowns so I don't have to fuck with adding extra weight with a belt.

>>96884581
>Lat pulldowns
Pullups for fat people

>>96884280

gtfo with this poser bullshit attitude, you are on a weeb forum in a thread about plastic soldiers. Nobody gives a shit about your athleticism, the only people that care about gym bores are other gym bores and you should all fuck off elsewhere to talk that terminally dull bullshit.

>>96884280
I kinda agree desu. The bench and other lifts are for training for sports. Thinking the lift itself is the sport is cope for losers that couldn't play sports in their youth

Normalfags OUT

>>96881922
You probably don't know this, but that's exactly how MESBG works, both sides roll at the same time and you determine who won the duel, and then that miniature(s) gets to try and kill the opponent(s).

>>96877479 (OP)
Didn't mean to but ended up painting something suitable for the October challenge.

Trying out a suggestion from a youtube. Under painted it with two colours, web blending them in the middle. Then painted out some of the highlights with bright paint.

It was then lacking some "pop", mostly due to not having done any shading. Using a sepia wash kinda fixed that, although the colours ended up a bit washed out

>>96884705
Oh okay. Any cool article or video batrep to share so I can see if there's more for me here?

Just ordered the Trench Crusade Plastics through Goblin and saved £10 vs ordering them from Archon/

>>96884019
you are right, shoudl work now

>>96885601
>>96885611
>>96885622
I like it

>>96884671
>>losers that couldn't play sports in their youth

Hey buddy chill. some of us did better at schoolwork than football.

>>96885601
Cute!
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Anons, anyone knows if the warmachine/hordes game has teh concept art somewhere?

>>96886358
Wow you took your state propaganda education more seriously thsn me?! You surely must be some sort of scholar or scientist, right anon?!

>>96886545
He sure sounds smarter than you, which is not much

>They think achievement is a competition and not a collaborative effort between peers in the interest of mutual betterment.
Sadness
No matter how much you bench, being a cunt will always make you a weak coward.

>>96886545
Actually I'm a failed scholar. I threw away my doctorate studies at UCLA a couple years ago. Just didn't want to do the research papers I had to do so I flushed my free ride away.

>>96886827
Sounds to me like you're a tard who makes poor choices

>>96886858
I fucking agree

>>96886858
Where do you think you are?

>>96886873
Just imagine the life of a carnie

>>96886979
They're called "Showmen" in the UK and are intertwined with both the Irish Travellers and Roma Gypsies and such

I live in Hull which has the largest travelling Fair in Europe

I'm no furry or anthro freak, but one of the local LGSs that sells second hand stuff too also has a £2 per miniature 3D printed section

I liked the look of this 40mm-base sized sci-fi rabbit enough to get him for Stargrave. Every warband needs a big guy and a small guy, it's the law.

>>96884671
Sounds like something a guy with small biceps would say.

>>96887543
Those are tiny ears for a bunny. Makes him look like a rodent.

>>96881455
52. I win.

>>96888541
Post double biceps

>>96890205
Sounds to me like you lose, actually

>>96890205
I kneel

>>96890205
Oldo fago...

>>96890205
Based grog.
How much do you bench?
What AWGs do you play?
>>96890212
Maybe I'll take one at the gym today anon, just for you.

>>96891435
You won't

>>96881455
>Just curious, how old are people here? I'm soon turning 41 myself.

36

Do you guys think this guy is one of the chill posters or does vitriol increase with age?
>>96890205

>>96881455
35

>>96892155
He's probably the fag who seethes about history posters

>>96892421
Or the guy that starts a melodramatic rant every so often about his crippling disabilities and hand cramps lmao

>>96892421
... which means you are the /hwg/ schizo. Good to know you are still around.

>>96890205
Just this year anon. Are your affairs in order.

>>96892421
He's obviously the history poster. Unless there's any 80 year olds in the thread

>>96892680
Actually, I'm the youngest guy in the thread

>>96892775
I meant the 53 year old stupid

>>96881455
I'm 68. Can't really paint anymore after a whole life of labor before being discarded as soon as my hands couldn't follow the churn. Lately I've been trying these AK acrylics and they do me fine, but mostly I keep busy reading books about the Roman Empire, War of the Rose (my favorite), black powder era and Napoleonic. Lately it's been a book a week and I've developed quite the knowledge regarding armor authenticity. In fact I can spot any wrong paldron or breech on any miniature within seconds. It's obviously not the case with any of you here since you refuse to admit being part of the hobby is opening a book at least once in your life and my effort posts always goes to waste.

Amicalement,
Armand

>>96892680
>>96892933
ahahahahaah I fucking told you guys.

>>96891443
At the gym now.
Say
>Please Daddy

I can't be posting with literal grandpas. It seems wrong to call them faggots.

>>96892922
I am both the youngest person ITT and the history poster

>>96893268
You can't be the youngest AND 68. Argument denied.

>>96892933
>Rivet counting
>In my /awg/
If we're to believe life expectancy averages, then thankfully we'll finally be free of your shitposting within the year.

>>96893076
Worry not, anon.
The average Boomer has sucked more cock than you'd expect.

>>96893291
But I can be the youngest and 69 your mother. Touche.

>>96892933
We're Armand posting now, where am I and what year is it?

Still no Dragon Rampant 2 pdf?

>>96893970
I am both the youngest AND 68. You want me to draw the hands on the clock where?

>>96892933
>In fact I can spot any wrong paldron or breech on any miniature within seconds. It's obviously not the case with any of you here since you refuse to admit being part of the hobby is opening a book at least once in your life and my effort posts always goes to waste.
Your effort goes to waste because we are not counting buttons in /awg/. This thread is for fantasy games and unless the authenticity is your priority by your own choice, it doesn't matter.

>>96877479 (OP)
Played a few rounds of the scenario from the spectre operations starter kit adding a few rules each time this evening, the rule book is pretty poor at actually explaining the rules in practice, however the d10 system itself is very good and the minis are nice, if i can take a decent photo ill post my CQB squad at some point
The free lite rules online are good enough to get a feel of it so would reccomend if you want to give it a try with 0 commitment with some 25mm scale minis

>>96894003
Nothing yet, even on Telegram.

Tell me about your current project??
Bonus points for including a pic

>>96894828
My current project is waiting on my preordered Oathmark Heavy Human Infantry + Characters to arrive so I can start my evil human kingdom. Fiddling my hole until then :)

>>96894828
Still very slowly grinding away at the same dozen Quar I started in March, time has really gotten away from me

>>96894894
How is this possible? I can paint 12 minis in one afternoon to a very playable standard

>>96895074
I just don't feel like working on them very often and when I do I'll do like one color on three models and then shelve them for a week or whatever.

Christ, how far have we fallen that newfags don't even recognize armandposting as a shitpost?

>>96894828
I batch primed 150 miscellaneous miniatures last month and it was such an overwhelming amount that I haven’t been able to muster energy to do fun part of painting. I thought I would be more efficient this way but my brain seems be locked up by the amount. I’ve decided my project for this week is putting all but 10 of them away in a box out of sight out of mind. From there I will just paint the 10. And see what happens after that.

>>96881764
If you are at least a 5/10, ask coworkers or family to set you up with someone. It worked for me. Online dating is a meme and meeting people in bars is bad news. You’ll just get bottom dwellers. If you’re a 4 or below, just enjoy wargaming.

>>96894828

I bought victrix dacians and I've tried making them into fantasy models by making them body armour inspired by the Dendra panoply and WWI sentry armours. Need to remove the greaves because they don't really look good because of the baggy pants dacians wear.

>>96894003
I got 2nd edition the other day
The artwork just feels off, like it's AI but also isn't. I think it is, but just edited to not look like AI

>>96881455
24 moving onto 25 in a couple months.

you niggas are way to old.

>>96896451
Said the newfag

>>96896451
>you niggas are way to old
Make sure not to repeat our mistake.

Anybody recognize these two skinny little bitches? Took em from a LGS's free bits box and the store dude have me a weird goodbye maybe cus I didn't buy anything. They look like fantasy figs someone was gonna convert to SoBs before or after cutting off their arms. I might try and rebuild them and add to my wz brotherhood.

Also my haul. All warhams refuse but the demon's? skull will make a good nepharite trophy to hang off someone's belt, the scope from the lasgun is gonna go on a trencher's lmg to make him a sniper, the troll's flower hat will go on a marine type base, and the lasgun in a sleeve is gonna go on some cavalry mount's side after I shave off the stupid swinged skull but most of the haul is pretty shit.

>>96896656
gave me a weird goodbye*

>>96896429
If it's the digital version don't be shy and share the pdf with us anon.

>>96894828
Arabyan niiiiiiights
First half. There will be three parts : core, pirates and cavalry (once victrix releases these horse archers next year)

>>96896402
Dont remove them, add fur to them.

>>96898007

Fur lining or what?

>>96898217
Yes. Its easy to sculpt with greenstuff. It will look fantastic.

>>96898225

I fear it'll make the legs look disproportionately big and I've used masking tape because I'm bad at using green stuff. Still worth a try I suppose.

>>96877479 (OP)
Hey is Gundam Assemble out yet?

>>96877479 (OP)
I'm about to take the frostgrave pill, what am I in for? I've bought the kits for mordheim but the more I read about frostgrave the more I like it for more casual fun.

How does it compare to Silver Bayonet?

Ordered my first minis in 20 years. Bought a bunch of 15mm singles for playing GDF-Firefight.
I got Necrons, Spaec Elvez, Guardsmen & Space Dwarvez. 300pts each and cost less than a score.
Just need to buy myself a table and I can start playing with myself.

>>96892933
>my effort posts always goes to waste.
That's because you should be posting that stuff in /hwg/, not /awg/, you senile geezer.

>>96898844
If I ever make the jump into 15mm(likely never) I'll definitely get Ikwen and Ion Age minis from them.
Or that Skeaze guy's stuff If I can get access to a printer
Also nice digits.

>>96898961
I bought a resin printer over a year ago but I've never used it. Hopefully this gives me a kick up the backside. I need to set it all up and then start sailing for STLs.
Ikwen look cool, I was looking at them for a space lizard squad.
Your pic related looks nice for some space marines. Alternative Armies didn't have a lot in the 'big armoured pauldron guys' category.
Why don't you think you'll jump into 15mm? I went with it because the value for money is good and I have a thing for poorly painted miniatures. Plus way less resin per thing I want to print.

I really liked the laserburn models but they warn they are scaled slightly smaller compared to other ranges so I didn't bother. I might get 1 or 2 and see if I like them or can do anything with them.

>>96899096
>Your pic related looks nice for some space marines. Alternative Armies didn't have a lot in the 'big armoured pauldron guys' category.
They are under Ion Age category arent they?

>>96899096
>Why don't you think you'll jump into 15mm?
The only reasons I can I see for 15mm for me at this point are if I wanted to play games that require more minis and more belong to 4x4(or bigger) boards, or if I end up in a situation where I won't even be able to have space for 3x3 boards for skirmish games comfortably.

>>96899150
Not that I can see, maybe they are 28mm only? Link me up if you find them

>>96899299
Desteria are super heavy guys your normal space marine equivalents are retained or these.
This is without getting into weirdo factions.

>>96899343
Thanks! Yeah these were the dudes I was looking at. Must've missed the other ones.

Are there any good war games for wars of the roses or 100 years war?

>>96899860
Games Worskhop's Warhammer Fantasy Battles 6th Edition.

>>96896656
Looks like WMH daughters of the flame to me

>>96899860
Nevermind the Billhooks was specifically made for WOTR and has a section covering HYW as well. The rules have a lot of period accurate flavor and do a good job representing combat from that era. Hail Caesar has a dense WOTR supplement as well and some guys enjoy it, but I personally prefer rules specifically tailored for period instead of supplementing very generic rulesets to fit a period.
Regardless, why are you asking in /awg/ and not /hwg/?

Who do you think this was referring too?

>>96900205
Billhooks is 100x better than Hail Caesar for late medieval wargaming.
>inb4 bullhooks vs oathmark autists start shit flinging again

>>96898538
2026

I've been playing Jagged Alliance 3 recently, and i love it. That game actually reminded me about the WGA Operators. They seem to be perfect, for such rather "funny" Mercenary skirmishes in the middle of Not-africa

>>96900178
That's them, thag you very buch

>>96901148
I only played 1 and 2.

>>96881455
31

>>96900598
Me.

To whatever anon said hot wheels bikes work with 28mm that was a great idea I'd never thought of. This was all of 1.19 plus tax at Targé

It's may be a teeeny bit too big and this mishima rider is particularly small but it may end up with a bigger rider like the necromutant. definitely gonna start looking for other bikes now.

>>96903313
Hotwheels scale is also all over the place so you'll definitely be able to find the perfect bike with enough time

>>96903303
>>96903313
Excellent, I was glad I was able to help.

>>96900626
Why would anyone start shit when he's recommending the base game, which is fit for purpose, to an Anon who directly and near-literally asked for it? Although again this ain't /hwg/.

>>96902104
I haven't played 3 yet either, been too absorbed in Xenonauts 2 (effectively an improved X-Com). I highly recommend the Stracciatella mod for 2. Fixes some critical bugs, doesn't go as overboard on the webbing autism as 3.11 or the other late-stage fan mods, has some fun extra guns. Most of the game is very doable in Asymmetric Warfare if you want to run a tabletop campaign although the Crepitus are gonna take some hacking to put into the game. I've done a couple scenarios loosely based on it and the guys at the LGS haven't caught on yet.

>>96900598
The name "black powder red earth" made me think of flintlock wars on mars, so I was pretty disappointed to find that it's just an epic beard spec ops conventional military skirmish game.

>>96903692
It's actually a very destopian setting based on graphic novels.

I'm just honestly curious who could possibly be trying to sabotage them.

SPECTRE?

dunno if this is the place to ask, but does anyone know if victrix plans on porting their miniatures to the us wholesale soon?

when I was at TARGE the other day I got some old metal skeletons from the 80s, 19 of them for £20, was looking them up on ebay and they're at least £20 each, some for £50, lmao

>>96896949
It is the hardback, I'm afraid

>>96903961
>old metal skeletons
decorative or potentially gaming sized?

who's getting starcraft?

>>96904073
it depends really. I'm less interested in the game itself, but if there is a good (i.e. cheap) zerg bundle, I will get it. Similar with the siege tank and Goliath. If those sets will be sold at decent prices individually I will get them.

>>96903762
98% the dev is just a schizo and crying wolf as a publicity stunt.
2% the same plus you're the dev.

>>96903974
I will be painting and playing with them, they are mostly some old essex and citadel I think

>>96902104
>>96903638
A bit off topic, but i think JA3 is an excellent game, and its finally the worthy successor JA2 deserved, after all those "meh at best" titles like Back in Action and Flashback, or the garbage like Rage.
However, JA3 is not a mil-sim, its a fun squad-based tactics game. So do not expect the whole Ja2 1.13 gun and equipment autism there. (There are mods for more guns, more realistic outfits for the mercs etc of course).

If you enjoy(ed) JA2 when it originally was released, i'm sure you will like it. Buy during a sale if in doubt.

Anyway, i put together some Oathmark Orks, and a couple of FG Cultists and Fireforge guys. Everything matches nicely, and after the first coat of contrast flesh colour, those "new" Frostgrave cultists faces start to look interesting.

Dragon Rampant 2nd Edition:
www.mediafire.com/folder/qaqa9154x8h8v3q/Dragon+Rampant+2nd+Edition.pdf/

Replace folder by file.

>>96902104
"Aaah. Trouble is here."

>>96903762
No one. Unless you count Amazon's search being shit as "sabotage". The specified search gives me Warlord Black Powder miniatures. Leaving off the "28mm" gives his books.
Or to put it another way: he sabotaged himself by putting "28mm" in the title, which Amazon's search (sensibly) associates with miniatures rather than books.

>>96904637
>www.mediafire.com/folder/qaqa9154x8h8v3q/Dragon+Rampant+2nd+Edition.pdf/
Not even the lad asking for it, but as someone recomended it for the bigHero/mage, monsters and chaff units ala conquest of elysium, thanks mate!

>>96904637

Thanks mate! The fantastical rules look great, pretty much what I was hoping for when I was trying to force the meme here last year.

>>96903762
I'm sure it has more going on than just that but literally every marketing image is a close up of some operator with nods c-clamping an AR.

About the anon than said than the art looked like AI and not, I really get what you mean. I think the artist did retouches to AI stuff. Those helmets in the Covert are absolutely horrendous. Its all good, but souless.
Thanks god we are for the rules and not a setting.

>>96904740
Well mate I was really surprised someone gave you this answer because I love Dominions and as a Lion Rampant player I couldn't see how Dragon Rampant would be anything related.

Now that I did read DR until the Optional Rules chapter, it's still not a great Dominion filler but at least it does allow us to represent a Unit with a single miniature so there's that.

Take a greater warbeast, two mages, fill the rest with chaff. From then on it's homebrew and campaign rules. I'll encourage you to look into Of Armies And Hordes though. Might be fuel for your fire there. Oh and keep me posted, will you?

>>96904749
You're welcome but i's not even my copy to begin with. I found it on Telegram. The game looks like a good balance between enough options and not drifting too far apart from the original material. I can see myself switching from Lion to Dragon without scratching my head at all so there's that.

I totaly understand why we're not rolling for our Leader to die accidently during a fight anymore, but removing the Duel rule entirely is a bit more surprising.

Where have I seen this robot before?

I'm thinking North Star or like Nolzur's or Reaper Bones or something

>>96905764
SHIT

>>96881455
43 and counting. Married, no children. I'm actualli starting a wargaming club in my town. Unfortunately they seem to be leaning into WH40k (They are mostrly teens), which is awful for starting the hobby.
I'm vying for Osprey quick and simple games so we can get new people, but I don't mind playing with them :-)

>>96904286
Bong Targé sells citadel minis? That's crazy. The ones here only recently started carrying the space marine and tyranid attack boardgames and that was pretty revolutionary for such a pleb store.

>>96906010
The UK doesn't have Target lad lol

He's talking about Targe Wargaming Show in Scotland. A targe is a type of shield.

>>96906067
I see. I meant Targé, yeah

Five Parsecs From Home is getting a Paranoia reskin

>>96906288
Neither of those citizens are wearing their proper clearance indicating jumpsuit.

>>96906288
Is it from a video game or..?

>>96906665
It's a long running RPG that's basically impossible to talk about because most of the people who post about it strictly remain in-character to the complete detriment of any discussion.

>>96906288
It's going to be expensive as fuck and there's a nigger in there. Redditor coonsumers slop.

>>96906665
It's from a TTRPG but there was a trailer for a videogame floating around.

>>96906743
Edition quality is a rollercoaster. The newest one might not suck, but the last one did, so stick to XP or the 25th anniversary editions.

>>96905770
>>96905764
It's a Salvager-bot from Crooked Dice's Colony 87 range. https://crooked-dice.co.uk/products/salvager-bot

>>96906792
>>7 pics of it from the front in the same color scheme
>>not a single pic of its back

yes

>>96906773
I don't suppose there's many miniatures of those soldiers floating around? I really like their uniforms

>>96906875
They've been using that design since the mid 80s, so maybe. I've never seen any Paranoia miniatures though.

>>96906875
>>96906909
Looks like Mongoose put out a couple sets of IntSec goons about 20 years ago.

>>96906950
And finding images of any of it is difficult, it seems. There's a couple sets on ebay for ridiculously inflated prices. There was also a miniature line in the late 80s, but good luck finding any of those.

Which I guess leads into the question, is there a more modern and available sci-fi kit with that soft padded body armor look and wide brimmed sweeping helmets?

>>96903313
Necromutant spotted

>>96907049
Not that I know of, quilted armor seems to have been completely abandoned despite being like half of the rogue trader aesthetic and none of the retro revivalists seem to care at all about bringing it back. Even historical gambeson clad minis at most do straight vertical lines instead of the diamond patterns.

>>96906985
>>96906875
>>96907049
>more modern
No. It was sort of an aesthetic people used for a lot of vaguely weeby SF in the late 1980s so you occasionally see old stuff crop up. It's more of a 1950s trope.
>under $10/model
Well, you've got the old Battletroops models. https://ariesgamesandminis.com/collections/online-exclusive-battletroops
They're beefy 25mm, and one-piece metals, but they do exist and cost around $5-10 a pop. IIRC there's some other applicable models in the 25mm Stargrunt range as well. Ground Zero doesn't believe in putting actual images on their website for everything, however, and their sculpts are very hit-or-miss in addition to being closer to 1/72 than 25mm.
https://shop.groundzerogames.co.uk/25mm-stargrunt/japanese-corporate-merceneries.html


>Modern, padded armor, no helmets
Check the Colony 87 range from Crooked Dice. There are only a few models kicking around in there but it's the most functional 28mm source I know outside of rooting around in 3DP hell.

>>96878662
Sorry its taken so long to get in, I came down with the killer cold thats going around and spent Friday and the weekend in bed. Didnt bet them based sadly, or get the other spoops done, but here are 20 ghouls/feral humans

>>96908023
It's kind of annoying, especially since the quilted armor is one of the easiest textures to sculpt besides fur and chainmail.

>>96908104
>>96906875
>Colony 87 quilted armor
Went and looked it up - the only ones with serious quilting are the street punks
https://crooked-dice.co.uk/products/street-punks
"Maintenance worker C", "Muscle", "Chamberlain", "Pilot B" and the Colonial Citizens have panels of diamond quilt, while the Breaker and a couple of Traders have vertical quilting.
The "Authority Regulators" in the current Kickstarter have the same general armor pattern as the Paranoia sectroopers but the helmets are a bit wrong and there's no quilting. Might work as a base.

>>96909550
There might be some Star Wars rebel snow soldiers, they tend to use diamond quilt for their cold weather gear. The long rebel helmet isn't exactly the same shape, but it's at least in the same swept back ballpark.

Any other anons in the /WIP/ secret Santa this year??

>>96909973
Nah, too dumb to figure out how to get in
>>96911276
Maybe I will finish that Jim Woodring war game....

>>96908448
I screamed/10

>>96908448
Nice! I like em.

maybe something like Samurai Scooter Cop Squad

>>96911436
okay, that's funny as hell

>>96909973
I tapped out the last couple years. Losing multiple pets, a very close relative, my house (briefly), and the sudden appearance of a toddler in my life has kinda put a damper on my santa activities. I'll be back in a few years.
>>96911328
Email Santa-anon. He usually puts the information in an image near the OP of the thread, usually with Johnny involved. They tend to close signups in late October so people have time to get shit assembled.

>>96909973
Was thinking about it, but still haven't painted up last year's gift and money's a bit tight now too

>>96911436
Literally bought one of these myself yesterday lel

I got big into buying Hot Wheels because of Gaslands, now though it has to be something really special because I'm not going to paint the 200 cars I have

>>96912157
>I'm not going to paint the 200 cars I have
But have you finished painting your Bones?

>>96912157
>bought 200 cars
>hasn't done anything with them
Grim.

>>96891435
>How much do you bench?
About a keg of beer.
>What AWGs do you play?
Mordheim, Gaslands, old-school Necromunda, The Last War, Trench Crusade.
>>96892155
I like to think I’m pretty laid back. The cranky old men are the ones who feel dissatisfied with life, but I’m pretty happy with where I am.
>>96892421
Nah. Life’s too short to get cranky about shit you can’t control.
>>96892462
Not disabled and no hand cramps.
>>96892653
I’m 52 not 92, bloke.

>>96902104
JA3 is really really good and a true spiritual successor to JA2 1.13. If you liked 2 you will like 3.

>>96906067
Ahaha
The ball, the ball, the ball at Kirriemuir
Where four and twenty prostitutes
Came waltzing through the door

>>96906288
>three robots and two girlbosses
Adds up to zero customers famalam

>>96911635
There's some new hoop to jump through this year, they have a spammer or a stalker or something. Anyway I couldn't figure it out, sorry if they were desperate for awg stuff this year
>>96912157
Those little shits are trouble, you get a baggie of 5 for a buck at the thrift store and it gets out of control real fast.

>>96912434
>a true spiritual successor to JA2 1.13.

I am not sure about that. I played a lot of the early 1.13 versions, but that mod eventually became a true milsim. Ja2 (vanilla, and the older 1.13 versions, were not that hardcore in this regard). And neither is JA3. Its a good game, and i would call it a spiritual successor to Ja2 for sure, but not to the 1.13 mod in its current state.

>>96912391
It is true that most hearts shrink with old age: you have your habits, you know your own taste, you've seen it all... But it's something you can fight against, especially if you know what to look for.

I expect grown ups indulging in toy soldiers and make believe stories to be pretty chill no matter the age group.

>>96912240
No I've painted up like... dozens at this point

But I have many more

>>96915495
Is 009 freehanded? Impressive if it is.

>>96909716
Fuck me he still gives me the chills. Absolutely terrifying design.

>>96914630
In terms of tone and setting it’s spot on, and the modding community has made it possible to easily adjust the gun-crunch to your liking.
I guess I should have been more specific as to why it’s a worthy successor.

>>96915047
>expect grown ups indulging in toy soldiers and make believe stories to be pretty chill no matter the age group.
In my experience the older the grog the chiller they are, but the more gating they find the younger autists.

I had a bit of a snap at a younger guy a few weeks ago because he had no ‘inside voice’ and would constantly interrupt others (myself included) and just crank up the volume until nobody else could hear anything. After about the second hour I told him to mind his voice and stop interrupting, my father was a veteran with PTSD and I’ve had enough shouting in my ear for one lifetime. I felt bad that I snapped at him but he did settle down, and no sign of the behaviour returning on a subsequent gaming meet. Beware the rage of the quiet man I suppose.

>>96915495
Good. Nothing worse then a person who buys everything to get into a hobby only to let it sit on a shelf and rot.

>>96914630
honestly that's probably a good thing, half the problem I have with 1.13 is that I've actually shot enough of the guns in it to have opinions on them and the guys steering it appear to have based all their opinions on issues of Soldier of Fortune from 1993. In a game with 1911s that load .308 and Tyranids.

>>96914301
probably not desperate but the cadre of guys who aren't just /40kg/ is pretty small.

>>96912463
BALLS AGAINST YER PARTNER YER ASS AG'IN THE WALL
IF YE CANNAE GIT LAID A' KERRYMOOR
YE CANNAE GIT LAID AT ALL

>>96912157
>>96912240
>>96914301
My mom started collecting Hot Wheels again and I've been gently encouraging her to strip and convert some of the old beat-up stuff. I'm taking my templates to Thanksgiving, gonna see if my all-Beetle warband will finally get some action.

>>96916837
>My mom started collecting Hot Wheels again
Damn, she single?

>>96916837
Are you that anon that was playing Kingdom Death with his mom and her friends years ago?

>>96903961
Reminds me of a small shop in Bolton, I spent about £20 each on an old Darkelf and Goblin armies. 2nd and 1st edition lead respectively. Turns out their worth a fortune to collectors. I just like the cool darkage akin sculpts.

>>96917131
Not I, no. KD is a bit rich for my blood. Family's more into word games and carry a mean game of cribbage.

yeah this is moving up the to-do list

>>96919272
>mario pussy attack!

I think it would be a slam dunk for square Enix to launch a final fantasy tactics tabletop game (FFTTT).
I don't know how you would limit it. 6 units per player? But you have all the races and classes and you spend points on skills.
Maybe add in a bit of leveling, not like 1 to 99 but 1 to 4 so his hume soldier has more hp than that one or something.

They can even mass print blocks so we can build our own battlefields and they can have height play into it.

It would be easy as shit to get into building your clan.

>>96916579
>In my experience the older the grog the chiller they are, but the more gating they find the younger autists.
Fuck, that's me, I might be getting old.

>>96919384
Based on Tactics Advance? Yeah that could work pretty well

>>96919384
I can't help but imagine it'd either be in some fucked proprietary scale or be sold as prepainted gacha packs and half the shit in it is from the FF7 remake, and for some reason Lightning takes up three character slots.

Does anyone have suggestions for werewolf and wolf miniatures?

>>96923701
WGA has a box of werewolves which look okay but a little boring
Infinity has probably the best looking wolves and wolfmen but they're all pretty heavily sci-fi, monopose metal and expensive

>>96923754
Equipe Mirage-5 is great from Infinity

>>96923701
Oathsworn has some cool Redwall-esque foxes but you could paint it as a wolf if you want

>>96923754
these fellas are looking a little much like lions

>>96924014
They got some with less jaw fur for more clearly wolf-like heads

>>96923701
WMH Circle of Oroboros and Wrath of kings goritzi have a bunch of wolf stuff.

first

>building demo OPR Regiments bands to convert normalfag friends into tactics gamers
>3.5 drops, angering many
So do I, like, run out the clock waiting for 3.6 or what? Is it really so bad?

>>96925079
3,5 is getting an emergency fix in the next few months. Personally, it is playable but it feels like the beta rules needed a lot more time to be worked over and straightened out. Far too much weapon rule clutter is my biggest concern and a number of armies in both AoF and GDF are painfully overpowered before you factor in how the new weapon changes and leader ability changes buff them, due to the army-wide unique rules being implemented the way they are.

>>96912391
>About a keg of beer.
~160 is pretty good for an old nerd.

>>96911635
That's my mushroom dude!
I like to think I've gotten a little better at sculpting since then.