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>Previously
>>96883650

>TQ
What is your favorite Modal spell?
Anonymous No.96894952 [Report] >>96894977
>>96894933 (OP)
>tq
My favorite art of abrade.
Anonymous No.96894974 [Report]
>>96894933 (OP)
>TQ
This one. I've always found it very fun in OtJ draft, and I've even tried it in constructed to some effect. It's a fun way to give draw to green.
Anonymous No.96894977 [Report]
>>96894952
Dominik Mayer never misses.
Anonymous No.96894994 [Report]
thread question
Anonymous No.96895019 [Report] >>96895213
TQ
Anonymous No.96895022 [Report] >>96895465
The Nebraska shitposts actually got me wondering, what areas were really big for magic back before the enshittification era? I'm from an area where a few stores tried to exist at once, but all but one died in like 2017.
Anonymous No.96895043 [Report] >>96895099 >>96895167 >>96895213 >>96895411 >>96897434
Thread reminder that UB slop biggest shitstorm is coming.
Anonymous No.96895099 [Report]
>>96895043
that art looks odd even for just marvel stuff
Anonymous No.96895136 [Report] >>96895256 >>96895878
If I hand over control to something destined to be sacrificed soon like a Saheeli token to another player, when do they sac it? Thinking of this play
Anonymous No.96895143 [Report]
>>96894933 (OP)
>tq
Anonymous No.96895167 [Report]
>>96895043
>bigger disaster than spiderman
doubtful
Anonymous No.96895179 [Report]
>>96894933 (OP)
>TQ
Anonymous No.96895213 [Report]
>>96895019
lmao It is funny that wotc not only racebends him but also make him extremely weak
>>96895043
I would have no problem with this shit being a Secret Lair or commander slop set.
To think people who want to play standard will have to play against Marvel Flop shit.
Anonymous No.96895256 [Report]
>>96895136
At the beginning of the next end step. The delayed triggered ability doesn't lose track of the token when its controller changes.
Anonymous No.96895411 [Report] >>96895488
>>96895043
It'll be pretty good and sell pretty well. Spider-Man's faults are largely more addressed by a broader scope thing like Super Heroes (much greater variety, less focus on specifically just New York (it's present but only really Spider-Man is so tied specifically to it it feels), actually being designed as the size it is, etc.)
Anonymous No.96895437 [Report]
Ugin is pumping Bolas full of white mana again...
Anonymous No.96895465 [Report]
>>96895022
Last I lived there, Akron had a good ecosystem.
>Derium's in Cuyahoga Falls part
>Two more shops in city
>Half-hour away from Alter Reality Gaming
Don't know how it is now.
Anonymous No.96895488 [Report] >>96895509 >>96896878
>>96895411
Counterpoint: Spider-Man lacks most of the Marvel slop fatigue that is losing Disney billions of dollars. People generally like Spider-Man, even if they're not comic book fans- he's one of the only superheroes that can carry movies all on their own, without their greater comic structure around them (the other example being Batman). That's part of the reason why deepcut movies like Spiderverse or Lego Batman can be moderately successful, because people care.

Marvel as a whole, however, is far from that level of good opinion. Pretty much all of their movies after Endgame have been culturally irrelevant- can you name me a show or movie since then that's actually effected the cultural zeitgeist in a positive way?

Make a Jujutsu Kaisen, Demon Slayer, or Chainsaw Man Magic set, and you'd have millions of zoomers and alphas filling game stores and buying product, especially if the art is appealing. I'm not even a fan of the first two- I'm literally just going off of what's most popular in the west (that doesn't already have it's own current card game, mind you)
Anonymous No.96895505 [Report] >>96895624
I like the smug shitpost energy of this one.
Anonymous No.96895509 [Report] >>96895656 >>96895866 >>96897226
>>96895488
>Chainsaw Man Magic set,
Too edgy for Magic.
Anonymous No.96895624 [Report]
>>96895505
>WotC Upper Management Being Encouraged to Design Universes Beyond, 2025, Colorized
Anonymous No.96895656 [Report] >>96895665 >>96895724 >>96896033 >>96896077 >>96896194 >>96896397 >>96896571 >>96897414
>>96895509
Eh, they did Duskmourne, they can do Chainsaw Man. I barely know a thing about Chainsaw Man past the like fourth episode (and memes) and bashed out something quickly.
Anonymous No.96895665 [Report] >>96895673 >>96895762 >>96896571
>>96895656
too fucking cheap for that effect
Anonymous No.96895673 [Report]
>>96895665
dude, it's a six mana card that does nothing until you untap, and immediately demands to be killed. How much do you think it should cast?
Anonymous No.96895724 [Report]
>>96895656
I also made a Makima card though I don't care to make up new cards just proxy existing ones for commander
Anonymous No.96895762 [Report] >>96895814 >>96896571
>>96895665
Is it? Casting from an opponent's hand is basically a thoughtseize + cantrip. You're limited by the amount of mana you have, and your opponent's cards probably synergize better with their deck than yours. Something like Bolas is 5 mana for an immediate 2 for 1, then a +2 card advantage with no mana cost every uptick after that plus a wincon if you can ult. A creature that dies to bolt isn't exactly that hard to get rid of.
Anonymous No.96895805 [Report]
TQ
Anonymous No.96895814 [Report] >>96895844 >>96895865
>>96895762
Opponents discard a card of their choosing, or sacrificing a meaningless token, once per turn is not the same as "You can Thoughtseize literally every card in their hand at any time."
Anonymous No.96895844 [Report] >>96895856
>>96895814
You'd still have to cast the cards, and you're still limited by timing restrictions (so other than instants and flash, only during your own turn). By the nature of the high cost (six mana) you'd have to wait until you untap to actually cast anything meaningful, which gives them plenty of time to use the removal you've found in their hand to kill her.

It's commander slop designed for fun tables rather than actually being any good.
Anonymous No.96895856 [Report] >>96895862
>>96895844
Commander slop has Reanimate legal and suddenly the ward 1 is backbreaking ensuring you untap with it. Because of priority you're also the person with the first opportunity to cast a spell when it resolves, meaning you can waste removal before anyone gets a chance to use theirs.
Anonymous No.96895862 [Report] >>96895863
>>96895856
>ward 1 is backbreaking
lol
lmao
Anonymous No.96895863 [Report] >>96895868
>>96895862
It's backbreaking on turn 2 you retard.
Anonymous No.96895865 [Report]
>>96895814
Sure, but that's mostly because there isn't really a similar existing card. Here's a 4 mana monoblack uncommon that lets you spend mana to sac a token or recurring creature to thoughtseize every turn. I think if you wanted to nerf the card you could limit the effect to only your turn to prevent shenanigans, I don't think the cost is too crazy.
Anonymous No.96895866 [Report] >>96896007
>>96895509
>Too edgy for Magic.
Huh? You mean...Grimgrin isn't edgy? But he's the edgiest around!
Anonymous No.96895868 [Report] >>96895874
>>96895863
If only they didn't literally print this card then
Anonymous No.96895874 [Report]
>>96895868
>Players will be running Cut Down in clown format of pointlessly overstatted creatures
Anonymous No.96895878 [Report]
>>96895136
You cannot sacrifice a permanent you do not control
Anonymous No.96895980 [Report]
>>96894933 (OP)
tq:
Anonymous No.96896007 [Report] >>96896068
>>96895866
Maro said spooky things are too icky for the modern audience ... even more icky than UBs.
Anonymous No.96896033 [Report] >>96896194
>>96895656
duskmourne is lame shit, Phyrexian shenanigans and I'd argue Eldritch Moon is edgier too.
Anonymous No.96896068 [Report]
>>96896007
Maro is a moron. Spooky stuff is the best.
Anonymous No.96896077 [Report]
>>96895656
>Eh, they did Duskmourne,
lmao oh really they did a cartoon fun house with zero stakes where every character has plot armor and nobody dies?
Very edgy.
Anonymous No.96896121 [Report]
>>96894933 (OP)
>TQ
Farewell has been my favorite modal spell in the longest time. The card name already has an instant reputation to cause massive seething anytime you utter its name.
Anonymous No.96896194 [Report] >>96896196 >>96896281
>>96895656
>>96896033
Reminder there is no E is Duskmourn. I don't know why people keep doing that.
Anonymous No.96896196 [Report] >>96896281
>>96896194
It's a Mandigo effect in action
Anonymous No.96896255 [Report]
>>96894933 (OP)
TQ
Anonymous No.96896281 [Report]
>>96896194
>>96896196
It's more so the fact that compound words in pop fantasy that end in the 'orn' sound usually do so with 'borne' (Bloodborne, Nightborne) and so we unconsciously put the extra E in.
Anonymous No.96896299 [Report] >>96896310 >>96896348 >>96896674 >>96896995
Say something, ANYTHING nice about this card.
Anonymous No.96896310 [Report]
>>96896299
The way the goatee blends into the base of the card is kinda neat.
Anonymous No.96896314 [Report] >>96896348
wdym? people don't care about the art on the cards. they would happily play with blanked out art and names as just a string of numbers to tell them apart. it will sell and line go up regardless
Anonymous No.96896348 [Report] >>96896367
>>96896314
whoops, meant to quote >>96896299
anyway, if you imagine just a little bit..
Anonymous No.96896358 [Report] >>96896363 >>96897342
ANOTHER KORILLION DOLLARS TO WOTC
Anonymous No.96896363 [Report]
>>96896358
The shitposter who made this is an evil genius
Anonymous No.96896367 [Report] >>96896403
>>96896348
>Cruel Painter
Anonymous No.96896397 [Report] >>96896592 >>96900280
>>96895656

I've been avoiding spoilers on what Makima really is for years now, and the thing to spoil me is a fucking custom magic card... I hate everyone...
Anonymous No.96896403 [Report]
>>96896367
a true blood artist
Anonymous No.96896413 [Report]
>>96894933 (OP)
>TQ
Does any card with kicker count as modal?
Anonymous No.96896493 [Report] >>96896495 >>96896506
>>96894933 (OP)
TQ: Does this count?
Anonymous No.96896495 [Report]
>>96896493
Clearly that was foreshadowing for the Day/Night mechanics of Innistrad 3
TOURNAMENT LEGAL
Anonymous No.96896506 [Report]
>>96896493
Impressive pun game
Anonymous No.96896571 [Report]
>>96895656
>>96895665
>>96895762
Oh, that's why this seemed so familiar It's literally a version of Sen Triplets. A better version? Probably.
Anonymous No.96896592 [Report] >>96896598
>>96896397
I randomly spoiled for shit all the time before i have a chance to read it.
its fucking annoying
Anonymous No.96896597 [Report] >>96896686 >>96900547
>>96894933 (OP)
Would people play this?
I also kinda think lilianas expression is funny.
Anonymous No.96896598 [Report] >>96896630 >>96896633
>>96896592
You can't expect not getting spoiled these days. This is the main reason why video games are so popular on release, unless you abstain from ALL social medias you will immediately get spoiled one way or another.
Anonymous No.96896630 [Report]
>>96896598
>You can't expect not getting spoiled these days. This is the main reason why video games are so popular on release, unless you abstain from ALL social medias you will immediately get spoiled one way or another.
Most people don't have time to CONSOOM every single new media that comes out as soon as its released.
Anonymous No.96896633 [Report]
>>96896598
I've had shit get spoiled for me when it was never even part of the discussion before hand. This has even happened for media before it's even gotten official english releases.
Anonymous No.96896645 [Report] >>96896834 >>96899340
they should have stuck with kamigawa flip cards instead of going with double faced
Anonymous No.96896674 [Report]
>>96896299
FAIR and BALANCED imperial tutor (why didn't they print that one instead? Avatar looks like Chinese/Asian shit which would fit more with IT)
Anonymous No.96896686 [Report]
>>96896597
only if I can slot a picture of myself on the back of the card
Anonymous No.96896834 [Report] >>96896839 >>96896851
>>96896645
No shit, cards with this back on them are fake cards in my book.
Anonymous No.96896839 [Report] >>96896879
>>96896834
*without
Anonymous No.96896851 [Report] >>96896879
>>96896834
>cards with this back on them are fake cards in my book
...what?
Anonymous No.96896878 [Report] >>96896913
>>96895488
Best I can do is Dragonball and One Piece in the next three years
Anonymous No.96896879 [Report]
>>96896851
>>96896839
Anonymous No.96896913 [Report] >>96896924
>>96896878

if i don't get a planeswalker goku deck, i'll stop playing mtg
Anonymous No.96896924 [Report]
>>96896913
Goku, Saiyan Warrior
3WR
3 loyalty
Whenever a creature becomes tapped, put a loyalty counter on ~
0: Kamehameha - Deal 2 damage to target creature. If it is tapped, deal 4 damage instead.
-2: Senzu Bean - Put a shield counter on target creature. Tap it.
-20: Spirit Bomb - Destroy target player.
Anonymous No.96896995 [Report]
>>96896299
Thank you for the cheapest cruel tutor.
Anonymous No.96897012 [Report]
Anonymous No.96897020 [Report] >>96897291 >>96897586
Anonymous No.96897114 [Report]
>>96894933 (OP)
>TQ
Probably my favorite charm of all time. If Dromoka's Command wasn't so watered down by being 2 mana, I would've gone with that instead.
Anonymous No.96897226 [Report] >>96897245 >>96897371
>>96895509
>Too edgy for Magic.
bro, spider-man canonically sold his unborn daughter and marriage to fucking satan just to buy a few more years of life for his octogenarian aunt. every single CSM character would go "man that's fucked up you shouldn't have done that..." upon learning about that, marvel capeshit unironically has way more edge in it than anything in CSM it's just most normalfags aren't aware of it (thankfully, holy fuck joe quesada is a piece of shit)
Anonymous No.96897245 [Report] >>96897268
>>96897226
drama isn't edge
Anonymous No.96897268 [Report] >>96897279
>>96897245
marvel frequently has both in spades. there's also way more rape in marvel capeshit than CSM, including joe quesada deciding to turn X-23 into a child sex trafficking victim whored out by a pimp in new york city instead of using the character's actual origins from X-Men Evolution which she was created for....
>hey remember that time deadpool's girlfriend and mother of his kid got kidnapped by north korea, tortured, and experimented on before kim jong un dumped her body in a mass grave for the Avengers to find?
god comics are dumb
Anonymous No.96897279 [Report]
>>96897268
zoomers read csm and act like it's fucking Wolf Guy, it's an action comedy and not even as edgy as fujimoto's previous shit, even the violence is surreal and borderline slapstick most of the time.
Anonymous No.96897291 [Report] >>96897297 >>96897542
>>96897020
>tapped

Fucking cowards. Instant speed reanimation (especially at 5 MV) isn't nearly as strong as WotC seems to think it is.
Anonymous No.96897297 [Report]
>>96897291
I mean if you're casting this at instant speed on your opponent's turn its gonna untap on your next turn anyways. I guess you can't use it as a blocker but thats a minor downside
Anonymous No.96897342 [Report]
>>96896358
The picture quality's better than half the 360p-looking screenshots we've seen so far.
Anonymous No.96897371 [Report] >>96897452
>>96897226
H-H-HOLY SHIT, an unborn kid we never met goes back to not existing and Spooderman talks to LE SCARY DEVIL oh no so scary
Anonymous No.96897397 [Report]
How many flash targets should I run in a vintage/powered cube? 2? Is 4 too many?
Anonymous No.96897414 [Report]
>>96895656
I think Makima could easily also have green, since she's a natural aspect of the world and just acting upon her nature. I'd even hear an argument for red since her whole reason of being is due to her interest in Chainsawman.
Anonymous No.96897423 [Report] >>96897710
back to your custom card containment general
Anonymous No.96897434 [Report] >>96897463 >>96897495 >>96901585
>>96895043
When I see this artwork, my first impression is "This is for little kids, like literal kinder-gardeners". I cannot stand western super-heros. I hate them. I hope this set gets the "Omenpath" treatment.
Anonymous No.96897452 [Report] >>96897470
>>96897371
aborting your child to placate satan is pretty fucked up yeah
Anonymous No.96897463 [Report] >>96901588
>>96897434
This.
Who the fuck says "super heroes?"
Anonymous No.96897470 [Report]
>>96897452
You're honestly a bitch, dude.
Anonymous No.96897495 [Report]
>>96897434
Thankfully, it’s confirmed that the marvel cards will be Omenpathed on Arena, so that’s good. Avatar isn’t, but it’s a fantasy setting so it won’t be too jarring, though TMNT I think is going as is anyways unfortunately.
Anonymous No.96897509 [Report]
Anonymous No.96897531 [Report] >>96897575 >>96897926
>>96894933 (OP)
Last night i held a draft of the OG theros block just to remember what magic was like when I started playing. Holy fuck what a fucking difference in power level. Half the people I drafted with struggled to pick because they weren't used to the way creatures were statted even 10 years ago. It's fucking crazy to look at the shittiest removal from that set and realize that in it's respective draft environment, it was a solid B card for the right deck.

You could really feel the difference in draft strategy too. People these days just try to build around a specific sets archetypes without worrying about a larger overarching game plan, and I think a lot of people mistakenly believe that BREAD really is a useless tool, as youtubers will never fail to remind you.

Anyway I did, of course, go with WUB and coast to an easy victory. It's interesting to watch players with more in game hours than me and current meta knowledge flounder in an older set with more simple archetypes and more unforgiving draft choices. You can't just get away with drafting a value pile in yoir colors, you actually have to carefully pick shit to fit specific CMC slots, and take cards that fucking suck 90% of the time just to not have a dead hand.
Anonymous No.96897542 [Report] >>96897832
>>96897291
Anonymous No.96897575 [Report]
>>96897531
Oh, I did also happen to end up with one of these bad boys which somehow never failed to make its way into my hand by turn 4 or 5
Anonymous No.96897586 [Report]
>>96897020
That is so dogshit. I hate how wotc oushes the power and ability bloat of every freature while simultaneously smchopping every sorcery and instant off at the knees. That's just ridiculously unplayable at 5 cmc. Maybe if it was 4 mana it would be passable.
Anonymous No.96897615 [Report]
>>96894933 (OP)
>best version of naturalize yet
>ub card
I have been training for this moment, I will not yield
Anonymous No.96897693 [Report] >>96897696 >>96897723
1 WEEK UNTIL NO CHANGES BROS
ARE YOU EXCITED???
Anonymous No.96897696 [Report] >>96897724
>>96897693
my cube changes whenever i want it to
Anonymous No.96897710 [Report] >>96897770
>>96897423
There hasn't been one for a while. It was only this type of UB-for-commander-legendaries uninspired shit for the most part, so it is for the better that it remains dead.
Anonymous No.96897713 [Report]
Anonymous No.96897723 [Report]
>>96897693
No changes? Good!
t. Premodern
Anonymous No.96897724 [Report]
>>96897696
Sorry anon, Mark Rosewater has hired the Pinkertons to break into your house and forcibly place overpowered UB cards into your cube
Anonymous No.96897734 [Report] >>96897847 >>96897852 >>96897870 >>96897885 >>96897998 >>96899442 >>96900135 >>96900185 >>96900224 >>96904806
Anonymous No.96897770 [Report] >>96897839
>>96897710
yeah and it should fucking stay dead here too
Anonymous No.96897784 [Report] >>96897811
Anyone else feel like they want a neutered form of storm to be legal in standard (i.e., storm without storm)? For some reason they keep printing red cards that make mana just by casting spells and they don't seem to understand that getting free resources by just playing the game normally is not a good idea when none of the other colors can do that, or at least not after they banned Up the Beanstalk.
Anonymous No.96897811 [Report]
>>96897784
wotc doesn't consider beans to be free value because you spent 2 mana to cast it
Anonymous No.96897825 [Report] >>96897891
did anything come of WOTC’s influencer witch hunt? I wasn’t around for a while
Anonymous No.96897832 [Report]
>>96897542
Congratulations, anon - you posted the exact card for why I said "cowards" to Zuko's Conviction. Good job on picking up on basic context!
Anonymous No.96897839 [Report] >>96897876
>>96897770
I will leave you to enjoy your pig slop alone, do not worry.
Anonymous No.96897847 [Report] >>96897856 >>96897867
>>96897734
>turn three turn 2 mana into four mana
I HOPE YOU GUYS ARE READY FOR THE FIREBENDING META
Anonymous No.96897852 [Report] >>96897856
>>96897734
>spend 3 mana to make 4 mana that you can only use during combat

Holy shit, this is pre-invasion levels of non-basic land badness.
Anonymous No.96897856 [Report] >>96897864
>>96897847
>>96897852
Anonymous No.96897863 [Report]
Pigs eat slop.
Anonymous No.96897864 [Report]
>>96897856
You need to tap the land in question in addition to paying 1R, anon. That's (essentially) 3 mana. Reading the card explains the card.
Anonymous No.96897867 [Report]
>>96897847
technically three for four, but red shouldn't be getting ramp on a fucking land
Anonymous No.96897870 [Report]
>>96897734
are there good instant that require 4 red pips?
Anonymous No.96897876 [Report]
>>96897839
FINALLY
Anonymous No.96897885 [Report] >>96897897 >>96897898 >>96897901 >>96897908
>>96897734
does...does double strike work like i think it does with fire bending?
Anonymous No.96897891 [Report]
>>96897825
it really hasn't been that long
Anonymous No.96897897 [Report] >>96897917
>>96897885
no. attacking is when you declare it to attack. you’re thinking “deals damage to a [thing]
Anonymous No.96897898 [Report] >>96897917
>>96897885
Wherever it attacks means only when the creature has been declared as attacker. Extra combat phases would work like this.
Anonymous No.96897901 [Report] >>96897917
>>96897885
dummy
Anonymous No.96897908 [Report] >>96897917
>>96897885
Double strike damages twice, not attacks twice
Anonymous No.96897917 [Report]
>>96897897
>>96897898
>>96897901
>>96897908
thank fucking god
Anonymous No.96897926 [Report] >>96897995
>>96897531
I had all these feelings while drafting pioneer masters in arena earlier this year. People just tried to build around underpowered jank instead of drafting a solid bread deck. Turns out nessian asp and district guide are just good solid creatures.
Anonymous No.96897995 [Report]
>>96897926
Its just a reminder to me of yet another thing wotc has changed for the worse about the game. Recent draft environments simply do not have the same feeling. I feel more like I'm playing high-power block constructed with something like FIN. Archetypes are very railroaded, and very specific to certain deck types. It's almost like playing against a bunch of mini commander decks. Core draft strategy from a decade ago is no longer functional because someone can get away with just drafting two colors without a thought and build massive value engines and powerful aggressive decks that threaten wins on fucking turn 4. It teaches new drafters to basically net-deck to learn the sets archetypes ahead of time, rather than to learn good, solid, universal deckbuilding skill.
Anonymous No.96897998 [Report] >>96898008
>>96897734
did they make an agni kai card or no
Anonymous No.96898008 [Report] >>96898026 >>96898053
>>96897998
Anonymous No.96898026 [Report]
>>96898008
Dude imagine this in RDW with heartfire hero and monstrous rage pre-ban? Man it's almost as if they're banning cards preemptively because they know they're going to release another completely busted set of cards in the next release... hey wait a minute... I've seen this before. Oh wow that card dueling game really turned out the better for that kind of design, huh?
Anonymous No.96898053 [Report] >>96898100
>>96898008
I’m so FUCKING TIRED of Red, man…
Anonymous No.96898100 [Report]
>>96898053
RED
DECKS
WINS
BABY!
Anonymous No.96898120 [Report] >>96898136 >>96898417 >>96898556
Ember Island Performance
Sorcery
Choose one -
Create a token that a copy of target creature you control, except it’s not legendary and a 4/4 Hero in addition to it’s other types.
Create a token that a copy of target creature an opponent controls, except it’s not legendary and a 2/2 Coward in addition to its other types.
Anonymous No.96898125 [Report]
waiting for the inevitable commanderslop with "your bending abilities trigger twice"
Anonymous No.96898136 [Report] >>96898162 >>96898169 >>96898174 >>96899589
>>96898120
man, they're really leaning into the non-legendary copy effects.

give it a few years and they're going to get rid of the legend rule altogether
Anonymous No.96898162 [Report] >>96898180 >>96901071
>>96898136
Anonymous No.96898169 [Report] >>96899589
>>96898136
>The "Legend Rule" states that a creature with the "Legendary" supertype may be your commander. There have been other versions of the Legend Rule, but they have since been deprecated.
Anonymous No.96898174 [Report]
>>96898136
its commander slop
Anonymous No.96898180 [Report]
>>96898162
yes, it has been going for a few sets now
that's what "really leaning in" means
also, i'm referring to copy effects that have the legend rule doge baked in
Anonymous No.96898417 [Report] >>96898440
>>96898120
>except it’s not legendary
I hate this new trend so, so fucking much
Anonymous No.96898440 [Report] >>96898461
>>96898417
anon, they're actors
Anonymous No.96898461 [Report]
>>96898440
it's UB slop is what it is
Anonymous No.96898556 [Report] >>96898567 >>96898648
>>96898120
This is the card for the series recap/comic relief episode right before the 4-part series finale. The good guys attend a propaganda play put on the Fire Nation, by notably bad actors. All the good guy characters are exaggerated, portrayals (play-Sokka won't shut up about food, play Katara shows off leg and cleavage and won't stop crying and talking about hope, play-Aang is endlessly cheerful and played by a woman, Peter Pan-style, etc) while the Fire Lord and Azula are super cool and powerful and win the day.
Anonymous No.96898567 [Report] >>96898648
>>96898556
The only one with a positive portrayal, and the only one actually liked by the original person, is Toph. Play-Toph is instead called "Tough", is a tall buff dude, and sees by scream-sonar instead of earthbending feel-sense.
Anonymous No.96898595 [Report] >>96898648
askers?
Anonymous No.96898648 [Report] >>96898714
>>96898595
Me, I asked.
>>96898556
>>96898567
Thank you for the answer.
Anonymous No.96898714 [Report]
>>96898648
then stop derailing. outside IP lore discussion is strictly off-topic from magic the gathering
Anonymous No.96898750 [Report] >>96898882 >>96899117 >>96899602
That's rough, buddy.
Anonymous No.96898762 [Report]
New ten-land cycle, they're all identical in effect except the colours.
Anonymous No.96898768 [Report] >>96898801 >>96899126
New Ascension.
Anonymous No.96898775 [Report] >>96898882 >>96899621 >>96901098
Strictly better Rampant Growth, I guess.
Anonymous No.96898786 [Report] >>96898825
Oh so they did show this scene on a card but the bonus sheet Blasphemous Act doesn't depict this because... Reasons. Card itself seems fine.
Anonymous No.96898789 [Report]
I wonder if the tiger dildo will see play
Anonymous No.96898792 [Report]
I think this was leaked already but yeah.
Anonymous No.96898799 [Report] >>96898822 >>96899005 >>96899728 >>96899838 >>96902113
If evil, why hot?
Anonymous No.96898801 [Report]
>>96898768
I'm so fucking tired of doubling effect.
Anonymous No.96898822 [Report]
>>96898799
She's a fire bender anon
Anonymous No.96898825 [Report] >>96898878
>>96898786
No, it makes more sense this way, even if the result on the bonus sheet was shitty. Bonus sheet card is Aang reacting to the blasphemous act of the genocide, but Gyatso himself wasn't acting blasphemously by killing all those soldiers.
Anonymous No.96898878 [Report] >>96898923
>>96898825
I mean, no, he was, the point is he was a pacifist pushed to break his pacifism and took the soldiers with him. It's still 'blasphemy', even if understandable.
Anonymous No.96898882 [Report] >>96898973
>>96898775
And here I was thinking that Lessons would have a mana tax or something
>>96898750
The full arts for this set are so bad, only 3 good ones
Anonymous No.96898923 [Report] >>96901121
>>96898878
Anon, Air Nomads aren't STRICT pacifists. They can defend themselves. Aang attacks people all the fucking time.
Anonymous No.96898973 [Report]
>>96898882
there's tons of good full art cards. the SCREENSHOT cards are mostly bad.
Anonymous No.96899005 [Report] >>96899838
>>96898799
Enishi, you glorious bastard- I know exactly the scene this card is referencing- The one from Imprisoned, where the tax collector is threatening Haru's mother and talking about how dangerous fire can be.

He just wanted to draw a cute girl, I suppose.
Anonymous No.96899037 [Report] >>96899167 >>96899770 >>96902113
So we got the 'good guy' Mai at least so far. (You can tell because she has the Ally type).

Will she help at all against spellslinger decks?
Anonymous No.96899093 [Report] >>96899134 >>96899156 >>96899201
Note that for these lands, you can earthbend them to creatures, chump block, and sacrifice them to draw a card as well as turning back to a regular land.

I also wish they hadn't used such specific names for a couple of the cards, since it hurts the potential for them to be reprinted (Like the Spider-Man-> Omenpath cards that were given new art but kept their names). This card, plus the gruul Omashu City are too specific to be reprinted outside UB. The Orzhov Misty Palms Oasis, Dimir Serpent's Pass, Rakdos Boiling Rock Prison, and Azorius North Pole Gate they could probably get away with though.
Anonymous No.96899117 [Report]
>>96898750
they did the thing!
Anonymous No.96899126 [Report]
>>96898768
oh, so they're a cycle
Anonymous No.96899134 [Report]
>>96899093
Guardian of Faith isn’t name tied to a specific world or setting so it could and should be reprinted into standard, but kikes like Nosewater lost their minds at White having Phasing in Standard so it is never going to be reprinted.
Anonymous No.96899156 [Report] >>96899235 >>96899282 >>96901195 >>96901244 >>96904817
>>96899093
>the avatar can move an entire island/mountain/landmass kilometers from its original standing

they were all over the place with the power scaling in this show
Anonymous No.96899167 [Report]
>>96899037
my dumb lizard is cooler
Anonymous No.96899201 [Report] >>96899267
>>96899093
If you're that pressed for more versions, the New Capenna cycle is pretty much the same thing, except the sac ability requires colors
Anonymous No.96899218 [Report] >>96899269 >>96899284
there it is
Anonymous No.96899235 [Report] >>96899256
>>96899156
Hundred Year War would have been way shorter if Kyoshi had been around to earthquake the Fire Nation capital into rubble.
Anonymous No.96899256 [Report]
>>96899235
>yeah I killed him
>yeah I plead guilty
>yeah I'd do it again
incredibly based
Anonymous No.96899267 [Report]
>>96899201
I mean sure, but it's just inefficent game design- think back to the refuge cycle from Zendikar, the allied duals that enter tapped and gain you one life. But then they wanted to keep printing them in new sets as fixing, but they were all specifically named for places on one plane, so they made a new cycle with generic names that they've printed in tarkir, kamigawa, aetherdrift, MotM, etc.
Anonymous No.96899269 [Report] >>96899295
>>96899218
oh great. now it goes infinite too
Anonymous No.96899282 [Report]
>>96899156
now that I think about it, the Kyoshi card really should create a token island
Anonymous No.96899284 [Report]
>>96899218
What's the flavour of this card supposed to be? If it triggered on opponents' creatures dying that'd at least be bounty hunter-like.
Anonymous No.96899295 [Report] >>96899306 >>96899312
>>96899269
It only goes infinite if you have a sacrifice outlet, a creature that earthbends when it enters, and some way to get creatures back to the field. Doesn't seem very infinite to me.
Anonymous No.96899306 [Report] >>96899339 >>96899387 >>96899414 >>96899483
>>96899295
landfall create token aka scute swarm with sac outlet
Anonymous No.96899312 [Report]
>>96899295
perhaps infinite is not the right word
but you can trivially earthbend your entire land count with one or two pieces
Anonymous No.96899339 [Report] >>96899414
>>96899306
Doi, forgot about landfall + tokens.

Okay, yeah that is infinite with a sac outlet.
Anonymous No.96899340 [Report]
>>96896645
These have so much soul, take me back
Anonymous No.96899387 [Report]
>>96899306
>just have three different cards and a payoff
Hardly gamebreaking
Anonymous No.96899414 [Report]
>>96899306
>>96899339
Let's see... 4 Eusocial Engineering to warp in for 2 on winning turn
4 Vengeful Bloodwitch
4 of these dudes
4 Lightless Evangel
4 Umbral Collar Zealot
some of the good earthbend cards just in case

Golgari aristocrats, nice.
Anonymous No.96899442 [Report] >>96904806
>>96897734
>usually ETB untapped
>makes colored mana
>sometimes makes more colored mana
>not a legendary so you can run 4 without having to sac them to each other
>EZ combo potential, with untapping to give a creature Firebending 4 multiple times, or taking extra combats
>plenty of red instants to cast during combat, or pair with mana sinks to dump the extra mana
This seems pretty good but probably EDH bait
Anonymous No.96899457 [Report] >>96899466 >>96902113
more lessons
Anonymous No.96899466 [Report] >>96899648
>>96899457
this needs a loss edit ASAP
Anonymous No.96899474 [Report] >>96899535 >>96901398
So which Learn cards from STX might see Pioneer play with these new lessons?
Anonymous No.96899480 [Report] >>96899496
is there a non- alchemy card that creates Land tokens?
Anonymous No.96899483 [Report]
>>96899306
And fun thing, we have that in standard.
Anonymous No.96899496 [Report] >>96899518
>>96899480
Yes
Anonymous No.96899518 [Report] >>96899533 >>96899577
>>96899496
just that one, right?
Anonymous No.96899533 [Report]
>>96899518
no
Anonymous No.96899535 [Report]
>>96899474
idk but I'm buying all of them on mtgo just to be safe
Anonymous No.96899577 [Report]
>>96899518
You also have cards that create token copy of a permanent
Anonymous No.96899586 [Report]
Speaking of ETB Earthbends.
Anonymous No.96899589 [Report] >>96899656 >>96899663 >>96901170
>>96898136
>>96898169
They really should revert it to the original legend rule for all formats outside commander. It's not like commander is a real format anyway so if they want to run 4 atraxas per table, why should people playing the real game care?
Anonymous No.96899602 [Report]
>>96898750
Burgers?
Anonymous No.96899621 [Report]
>>96898775
Damn they actually did it the absolute madmen. Now just add lightning bolt please.
Anonymous No.96899648 [Report] >>96899653
>>96899466
Anonymous No.96899653 [Report]
>>96899648
Anonymous No.96899656 [Report] >>96899697
>>96899589
With all the busted legends they print nowadays, you'd end up with Lin Sivvi metas. The cure has to go deeper.
Anonymous No.96899663 [Report] >>96899697
>>96899589
The original legend rule is awful
Anonymous No.96899697 [Report] >>96899762
>>96899656
They need to stop printing so many legends AND bring back the original rule.
>>96899663
It's flavorful and punishes relying on pushed legendary creatures, which are both good things.
Anonymous No.96899711 [Report] >>96899774
We need the REAL original Legend rule where they were always restricted in deckbuilding but there were no clone restrictions.
>Murders their viability in 60-card
>Does nothing in fake format
Anonymous No.96899728 [Report] >>96899838
>>96898799
someone got a glowup
Anonymous No.96899762 [Report]
>>96899697
The only time it punishes using legends any more than the modern rule is when any deck can run it, like how some non-blue aggro decks would have Tolarian Academy in the sideboard just to lock academy decks out when Saga was new. But a deck without white mana (or a way to cheat creatures into play) can't use Lin Sivvi to lock out the opponent's copy.
All it does is make the mirror miserable and skew play/draw even harder.
Anonymous No.96899763 [Report] >>96900290 >>96902113
Anonymous No.96899765 [Report] >>96902113
Anonymous No.96899770 [Report]
>>96899037
How is the rare? Aren't there several common/ uncommon creatures with this exact effect?
Anonymous No.96899774 [Report] >>96899829
>>96899711
The clone clause always existed.
Anonymous No.96899829 [Report] >>96899938
>>96899774
The iteration I mentioned never made it to print. They mentioned it in interviews as a version they threw out.
Anonymous No.96899838 [Report] >>96899945
>>96898799
>>96899005
>>96899728
Anime gooners are the only thing that can save Magic the Gathering.
Anonymous No.96899938 [Report]
>>96899829
It really is a lot cleaner. I guess the problem they had was, "How do you prove this without everyone having to show their entire deck before every game?"
I wonder, if Ice Age had come out after Antiquities as it was supposedly intended to, and Legends had come out in '95 instead, after they had nailed down the tournament rules (once they were comfortable with saying, "yeah man just trust each other not to run seven bolts ok"), if things would have been different.
Anonymous No.96899945 [Report]
>>96899838
>Plump anime girl
>>She's blueberry flavored
So close
Anonymous No.96900012 [Report] >>96900056
This is going to be annoying
Anonymous No.96900056 [Report]
>>96900012
I spar only in the avatar state.
Anonymous No.96900135 [Report]
>>96897734
This is really good, there's no downside to running it in red decks and it will sometimes tap for 2 mana basically.
Anonymous No.96900181 [Report] >>96900206
I can’t understand how anyone could be interested in this slop.
Anonymous No.96900185 [Report] >>96900197
>>96897734
what can copy this effect?
Anonymous No.96900197 [Report]
>>96900185
Any "if a spell or ability would target a creature it targets all creatures instead"
Anonymous No.96900206 [Report]
>>96900181
this but every set since onslaught block took mechanics from Yu-Gi-Oh
Anonymous No.96900219 [Report] >>96900233 >>96901597 >>96901604
*breathes in*
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Anonymous No.96900224 [Report]
>>96897734
Sozin's comet at home
Anonymous No.96900233 [Report] >>96900250
>>96900219
way late homeslice
Anonymous No.96900250 [Report]
>>96900233
Won't stop it being bafflingly hilarious
Anonymous No.96900280 [Report]
>>96896397
If you've been reading the series/cared that much about spoilers, you only have yourself to blame for taking YEARS to catch up. Hell, not even catch up, you find out less than halfway through the current chapter count.
Anonymous No.96900290 [Report] >>96902277
>>96899763
I think I'm in love
Anonymous No.96900342 [Report] >>96900411
meh
Anonymous No.96900366 [Report] >>96900463
could an earth bender bend bones?
Anonymous No.96900373 [Report] >>96901367 >>96901415
I fucking wish black burn was playable in this clown game
Anonymous No.96900411 [Report] >>96900468 >>96900473 >>96901280
>>96900342
Draw 3 in commander.
Anonymous No.96900463 [Report]
>>96900366
Waterbenders can bend blood/body moisture, so the potential is there at least
Anonymous No.96900468 [Report]
>>96900411
nobody asked about the clown fiesta format
Anonymous No.96900473 [Report] >>96900571
>>96900411
Actually it's draw 0 because Commander players are allergic to attacking.
Anonymous No.96900547 [Report] >>96900587 >>96900591
>>96896597
Am I a nigger or would this be played everywhere? It's a free second wind at the game that draws cards and kills creatures
Anonymous No.96900571 [Report]
>>96900473
Played a game yesterday where a guy targeted all removal/attacks/fuckery for an entire game on me, resulting in his direct loss to another player, for "attacking me when you didnt have to".

I swung for 2 on t3 because he had no critters.
Anonymous No.96900587 [Report]
>>96900547
It can be both
Anonymous No.96900591 [Report]
>>96900547
>cmc 5
you died 3 turns ago lil bro
Anonymous No.96900617 [Report] >>96900635 >>96900656 >>96900681
Would the epic cycle of cards be broken if they didn't prevent you from casting spells for the rest of the game?

https://mtg.wiki/page/Epic
Anonymous No.96900635 [Report] >>96900651
>>96900617
Then it wouldn't be Epic, would it?
Anonymous No.96900651 [Report]
>>96900635
To be specific, what if you still copied the spell at your upkeep for the rest of the game, but you could still cast other spells in addition.
Anonymous No.96900656 [Report] >>96900981
>>96900617
Would looting effects be broken if you didn't have to discard?
Anonymous No.96900681 [Report]
>>96900617
That would put them in the same range as many PW ultimates, without the hassle, that said, the powercreep has gotten so absurd you probably could andit wouldn't matter
Anonymous No.96900749 [Report] >>96900854
Having no interest in Avatar and Spiderman has made me realize that this game has made me surprisingly good at budgeting. I had adapted to setting aside so much money for cardboard that my core cost of living got pretty low and now that I’m not buying cards life is good.
Anonymous No.96900854 [Report]
>>96900749
Typically life gets better when kikes are denied shekels
Anonymous No.96900981 [Report] >>96901021
>>96900656
>Discarding is seen as a downside.
Since when?
Anonymous No.96901021 [Report]
>>96900981
if only lifelink had been keyworded at the time...
Anonymous No.96901049 [Report] >>96901076
Hey bros, I found Gavin's favorite book!
Anonymous No.96901071 [Report]
>>96898162
That effect has been around for a long time
Anonymous No.96901076 [Report]
>>96901049
P.E.P.E. "Shadilay" tier meme magic wtf.
Anonymous No.96901098 [Report]
>>96898775
I thought rampant growth was too powerful for standard
Anonymous No.96901121 [Report] >>96901153
>>96898923
Gyatso was a pretty strict pacifist and he airbended all the air out of the room and suffocated them all which feels like a forbidden technique kind of deal
Anonymous No.96901135 [Report] >>96901142
Need your advice please bros. My cousin's fiance is coming to visit from overseas for a few months and he's an EDHonly, but thankfully a casual one that only plays kitchen table with friends. I only play legacy and premodern and would like to bring him along to one of our game days; what's the best way to introduce him to the format so he doesn't get crushed from lack of format or card knowledge? He has both a Winota deck and a goblins deck for EDH, so I was thought of offering him Winota initiative and goblins or sligh for legacy and premodern respectively. I'm also meeting him in the middle and made some EDH decks for 1v1 kitchen table play from stuff I have already.
Anonymous No.96901142 [Report]
>>96901135
Laugh and insult him for being a nerd, then when he asks you to stop start making piggie noises until he leaves.
Anonymous No.96901153 [Report]
>>96901121
Or maybe the simpler explanation is that the aerocaust never happened
Anonymous No.96901170 [Report] >>96902043
>>96899589
the old legend rule led to people intentionally sideboarding in 4x of legends to play as removal for your opponent's deck, which wotc doesn't want because it A: highlights how retarded busted some pushed cards are, and B: makes timmy feel bad every time his big named creature is killed by the legend rule.
Back in the day there were people running Tolarian Academy in every deck just to deny it to the opponent too.
Anonymous No.96901195 [Report] >>96901371 >>96901386
>>96899156
It was really the Avatars we have in the shows are very immature and weak relative to their predecessors
Anonymous No.96901244 [Report]
>>96899156
aang was like 12 and the entire events of the first show all happen within less than a year, which already has him going from waving a stick at people to blow air and knock them over, to being able to wipe out an entire city if he really tried and able to 1v1 comet empowered ozai.

if he gets that strong in like six months imagine how powerful he'd be with another 20+ years of training; there's a reason the Avatar is treated like the in-universe equivalent to a nuclear superpower keeping international order through implicit force.
Anonymous No.96901278 [Report] >>96901321 >>96902829 >>96902960 >>96905984
It just says 'Bear'.
Anonymous No.96901280 [Report] >>96901308
>>96900411
love big cats
Anonymous No.96901298 [Report] >>96901432
And another Bumi.
Anonymous No.96901307 [Report]
edh slop
Anonymous No.96901308 [Report]
>>96901280
Yes. Very squeezable.
Anonymous No.96901309 [Report] >>96902113 >>96905996
Jailer effect, pretty decent rate for a body? Good for limited.
Anonymous No.96901318 [Report] >>96902113
And this seems kind of great for an uncommon.
Anonymous No.96901321 [Report]
>>96901278
fucking weird
Anonymous No.96901325 [Report] >>96902113 >>96902556 >>96902707
Cute flavour.
Anonymous No.96901338 [Report] >>96901357 >>96902113
And there's the returning token Maro teased.
Anonymous No.96901357 [Report] >>96901370
>>96901338
Fun design at least.
Anonymous No.96901367 [Report]
>>96900373
Holy sweet fucking satan's butthole this thing is busted.
Anonymous No.96901370 [Report] >>96902113
>>96901357
I mean it's basically a better (well, I guess Fire Nation Trebuchet doesn't have any power) version of the card that had the token first.
Anonymous No.96901371 [Report]
>>96901195
Korra's problem more is that she's so spiritually retarded that she's barely on par with a 12 year old Aang AFTER he'd gotten spiritually crippled. And then she goes and fucks up so bad that she gets the Avatar spirit permanently crippled.
Anonymous No.96901386 [Report] >>96901482
>>96901195
Well, Aang had the excuse of his training being cut short, Korra had the excuse of living in relative peace so she didn't feel the need to be as proper.
Anonymous No.96901398 [Report] >>96901443
>>96899474
Her
Anonymous No.96901415 [Report]
>>96900373
Mai + Kambal
fuck Phoenix desu
Anonymous No.96901432 [Report] >>96901440 >>96901448
>>96901298
Can you choose the same mode twice?
Anonymous No.96901440 [Report]
>>96901432
Does it say you can?
Anonymous No.96901443 [Report]
>>96901398
LOOK AT THOSE FUCKING LIPS
HNNNNNNNNNG
Anonymous No.96901448 [Report]
>>96901432
Since it doesn’t say you can, and the mechanic is having at least 3 lessons in your graveyard, probably not. I wish though.
Anonymous No.96901482 [Report] >>96901496
>>96901386
>Korra had the excuse of living in relative peace so she didn't feel the need to be as proper
She was kept in a compound and trained by wizened White Lotus masters from childhood. Really it's the White Lotus' fault she ended up so fucking retarded. They did not beat her anywhere near enough.
Anonymous No.96901496 [Report] >>96901533 >>96901537 >>96901595
>>96901482
I mean the point of Korra was that while she was pretty good at bending from the start, the spiritual side of being the Avatar was just completely fucked for her, right?
Anonymous No.96901532 [Report] >>96901743 >>96901873
Anonymous No.96901533 [Report]
>>96901496
Yeah, because she's an ADD retard
Anonymous No.96901537 [Report]
>>96901496
>Korra
>Having a point
Anonymous No.96901551 [Report] >>96901596
It's kind of funny how the Earth Kingdom ultranationalist gets to be a sympathetic character and then there's Amon
Anonymous No.96901585 [Report]
>>96897434
>I hope this set gets the "Omenpath" treatment.
It will right? Its a similar contract with the same company. Itd be kind of odd if this set didnt get omenpath'd
Anonymous No.96901588 [Report]
>>96897463
I think it's basically a Marvel/DC copyright. They have the shared copyright for "Super Heroes", but not the word "superhero".
Anonymous No.96901595 [Report] >>96901678
>>96901496
Korra's issue was that she was flat out not taught any of that, yes, and as such she didn't get any of the guidance the previous Avatars are supposed to give.
Like, Aang pretty consistently got insight into what being the Avatar meant from his previous selves and ultimately figured how to talk to them at will, but I guess the Lotus just didn't give a shit about anything but making Korra into a swole bender who could beat the shit out of incoming threats (and even at that they failed since she obviously wasn't going to be able to learn Airbending by herself)
Anonymous No.96901596 [Report]
>>96901551
That's because Kuvira did nothing wrong, while Amon was trying to Harrison Bergeron the world. I won't even mention his backstory since it just denigrates the character.
Anonymous No.96901597 [Report]
>>96900219
Thats rough, buddy.
Anonymous No.96901604 [Report] >>96901649 >>96901686
>>96900219
Is this the ever so rare heterosexual kiss?
Anonymous No.96901649 [Report] >>96901686 >>96901687
>>96901604
I don't actually think there's a lot of art of characters kissing in Magic at all. This one plus the Ral Zarek + Tomik one are the only ones I remember.
Anonymous No.96901654 [Report] >>96901802
The ally tribal set.
Anonymous No.96901678 [Report] >>96901705
>>96901595
They tried teaching her and failed because she was too ADD. Tenzin failed for the same reason. You know how Korra got in touch with her spiritual side? She got locked in a fucking metal box with nothing to do but meditate.
Anonymous No.96901686 [Report] >>96902260
>>96901649
>>96901604
Lobotomy and Together Forever are the only "on the lips" probably romantic or libidinous kisses in magic art.
Anonymous No.96901687 [Report] >>96902260
>>96901649
Magic's just weirdly lacking in romance overall. There's been some in the fiction, mostly Jace/Vraska and Chandra/Nissa, but beyond that it's just "characters standing near each other" and usually not in overtly romantic ways. Like pic-related is probably the only card art that makes you go "Oh right they're a couple" for Jace and Vraska for example, and it's an Alchemy card nobody cares about.
Anonymous No.96901705 [Report] >>96901730 >>96901782
>>96901678
I mean if they didn't consider a method as simple as isolating her that's pure incompetence.
Anonymous No.96901730 [Report] >>96901782
>>96901705
I'm pretty sure isolating students is very common among monks so they were just really stupid.
They had to teach ONE student and all the time in the world to figure out something that would work on her. The fact they didn't proves they were just bad at teaching.
Anonymous No.96901743 [Report] >>96901873
>>96901532
Some of these are pretty cool. I don't know anything about Avatar but the ub, rg, gb. rw. and ug are quite pleasant to look at.
Anonymous No.96901759 [Report] >>96901802 >>96901806
>Korra was a show about a fatherless girl who never grew as a character and turned into a lesbian
Kinda based messaging there
Anonymous No.96901782 [Report]
>>96901705
>>96901730
They didn't have a reasonably humane way to isolate Korra. Leave her alone somewhere and she'll just run off once she gets bored (probably immediately). Lock her in a room and she'll kick down the door or break the window. Put guards around and she'll fight them or sneak around them. They would've literally had to chain her up or put her in a unbendable box like Tarrlok did to get results and it would've been difficult to justify that to her parents.
>No, you see, we had to seal your daughter in a crate for several hours because we couldn't get her to settle down otherwise
>We made sure there were air holes!
Anonymous No.96901802 [Report] >>96901817 >>96901978 >>96902059 >>96902401 >>96902434
>>96901654
You know, I'm both amazed and not at all surprised at how similar Spider-Man and Avatar are/will be:

Both are centered around a creature type(s) that doesn't get regular tribal support or notable cards (Spiders, Heroes, Villains vs. Allies)
Both have multiple legendary creatures depicting either the same character, or at least essentially the same character. I mean, be honest- how many 'Spider-Men' are individually distinct enough to warrant being separate characters? The first Spiderverse movie established that there's really only half a dozen or so, and I guess the bad guy from the second movie counts too. But that's far smaller than the 30+ Spider Hero creatures in the set.

And yet Avatar will be far more successful because of anime art and fantasy setting. Will Wizards learn this lesson? No, but maybe when Marvel flops this summer they'll finally get it through their thick heads.

>>96901759
I mean, she's one of the only Avatars we've seen to actually have regular parents- Aang didn't, Kyoshi didn't, Wan didn't, Yangchen didn't, and while Roku did, he was also close friends with Prince Sozin, suggesting he was from a noble family already.
Anonymous No.96901806 [Report]
>>96901759
>fatherless
Her dad was around. I don't think her parents' house was too far off from the compound where they trained her.
Anonymous No.96901817 [Report] >>96901863
>>96901802
>and while Roku did, he was also close friends with Prince Sozin, suggesting he was from a noble family already.
And Roku was a failure, so we can naturally infer from this that fatherless behaviour is what actually makes for a good Avatar.
Anonymous No.96901863 [Report]
>>96901817
I mean, considering that the Avatar is basically the sole nuclear power keeping peace both between humans, between spirits, and between humans and spirits, it makes sense to make sure they're independent from a young age.
Anonymous No.96901873 [Report] >>96902322
>>96901743
>>96901532
I wish Omashu was more detailed, but yeah, Avatar has plenty of different neat places seen in the show to cover the dual lands
Anonymous No.96901978 [Report]
>>96901802
>Both are centered around a creature type(s) that doesn't get regular tribal support or notable cards (Spiders, Heroes, Villains vs. Allies)
>The strongest spider creatures in Magic are from commander products and UB sets
Blex, please save us.
Anonymous No.96901992 [Report] >>96902047 >>96902066 >>96902084 >>96902301 >>96902349 >>96902388
Red has been the best color in what seems like every format for a solid 6-7 years now. Like UG was really fucking strong when wotc was sucking it off in WAR/eldraine but then they took it out back and killed green as a color while red continued to dominate everything.
Anonymous No.96902043 [Report]
>>96901170
>the old legend rule led to people intentionally sideboarding in 4x of legends to play as removal for your opponent's deck
I should know, I was there. 3000 years ago, when the strength of wotc failed. I put 4x jace in my deck just to watch people seethe.
Anonymous No.96902047 [Report]
>>96901992
Red is the fast color. More games means more intermittent reinforcement. Keeping people even more hooked. Being more hooked means more card sales, arena sales etc. It is by design.
Anonymous No.96902059 [Report]
>>96901802
>Both are centered around a creature type(s) that doesn't get regular tribal support or notable cards
>Allies
Allies got a fuckton of support what are you on? Nearly every Zendikar set has Ally tribal out the ass. It's one of the tribes with the most support in the game.
Anonymous No.96902066 [Report]
>>96901992
Red is bad in Commander, which is the only format that matters to them
Anonymous No.96902084 [Report] >>96902102
>>96901992
>for a solid 6-7 years now.
more like 2~ish at best
by the end of 2022 mono black was still the best deck in standard and the following years were all about black
Anonymous No.96902102 [Report] >>96902137
>>96902084
even if black got pretty dominant for a moment its always felt like Red was 2nd best.
Anonymous No.96902113 [Report]
>>96898799
Thraben Inspector but a black card (and hot woman)
>>96899037
Thalia but a black card (not a black woman)
>>96899457
2 more mana Realms Uncharted but can be tutored by strixhaven cards (learn)
>>96899765
>>96899763
shit
>>96901309
good even looks like a real magic card.
>>96901318
let me guess : uncommon key card to an archetype?
>>96901325
cool card.
>>96901338 >>96901370
retarded cards and flavor.
Anonymous No.96902137 [Report] >>96903386
>>96902102
It was green and blue.
Anonymous No.96902143 [Report] >>96902158 >>96902246 >>96902368
Anonymous No.96902158 [Report] >>96902170
>>96902143
>tiger-dildo
Anonymous No.96902170 [Report]
>>96902158
Dillo.
Like Armadillo. But Tiger.
Anonymous No.96902246 [Report]
>>96902143
So with Kangaroos, Platypuses, Echidnas, and potentially Koalas now legal creature types, Australia plane when?
Anonymous No.96902252 [Report]
I do like the hybrids
Anonymous No.96902260 [Report]
>>96901686
>>96901687

Here's a list of cards with kisses:
https://tagger.scryfall.com/tags/artwork/kiss


It's not complete though. It doesn't have praetor's grasp:
https://scryfall.com/card/nph/71/praetors-grasp
Anonymous No.96902267 [Report] >>96902339
which vanguard card is the strongest?
Anonymous No.96902277 [Report]
>>96900290
Anonymous No.96902301 [Report] >>96902315
>>96901992
Arena dopamine retards and pea brain stupid bad players can’t handle actual Magic or games longer than three turns for what matters, don’t forget they banned ABUELO and NIGHTMARE in the last B&R announcement… Leaving Vivi, Nemesis, Manifold, Slickshot etc. open and wait for Firebend to come after the Vivi bans…

WotC is not only incompetent about the target audience or product focus they can’t even if their lives depend of it balance, and with the amount of new products this is now more obvious than ever, Control? Dead, Combo? Barely holding, Standard is the aggro paradise where shitters cast their creatures and swing them to each other’s faces in a stupid race for pointless victories.
Anonymous No.96902315 [Report] >>96902327
>>96902301
>WoF at instant speed
atleast this isn't standard legal lol. That would be crazy with firebending.
Anonymous No.96902322 [Report] >>96902356
>>96901873
As does Marvel and Star Trek. Not sure what TMNT will do for dual lands.
Anonymous No.96902327 [Report]
>>96902315
anon...
Anonymous No.96902339 [Report] >>96902436
>>96902267
Anonymous No.96902349 [Report]
>>96901992
>Red has been the best color in what seems like every format for a solid 6-7 years now. Like UG was really fucking strong when wotc was sucking it off in WAR/eldraine but then they took it out back and killed green as a color while red continued to dominate everything.
When everything is power crept to the moon, turns out the color whose thing is "Kill people fast" ends up killing people faster than the other ones.
Anonymous No.96902356 [Report]
>>96902322
TMNT is a small set like Spider-Man, so at most we'll probably get 5 dual lands, probably Enemy colored. They can be filled out with places like the Turtle Lair, the Foot HQ, TCRI, Channel 6 News, the O'neil farm, Dimension X, and the Technodrome.
Anonymous No.96902368 [Report] >>96902502
>>96902143
>Tiger-Dildo
>Predators with armor plating
What did they mean by this?????

What did
Anonymous No.96902388 [Report] >>96902391 >>96902394
>look up scryfall
>see this
OH LOOK ANOTHER DRAFT FORMAT WHERE GRUUL AUTOWINS. VERY ORIGINAL

Fuck you

>>96901992
That's reds identity, it's the standard colour just like blue is in legacy/vintage
Anonymous No.96902391 [Report] >>96902426
>>96902388
>This shit
>Fucking UNCOMMON
RIP limited for this set lmao.
Anonymous No.96902394 [Report] >>96902426
>>96902388
Red is just as much a face of legacy when fucking UR delver gaped the format for like 5 years straight and kept getting purpose designed cards to support the deck.
Anonymous No.96902401 [Report]
>>96901802
>And yet Avatar will be far more successful because of anime art and fantasy setting.
Also it just has more interesting cards
Anonymous No.96902418 [Report] >>96902438 >>96902451
Ok WotC, I get some of the other designs, but this one just confuses me.
Anonymous No.96902420 [Report] >>96902428 >>96902519
I'm trying to make a mono white cat deck in arena, is this a good start? I have no idea what I'm doing.
Anonymous No.96902426 [Report] >>96902507
>>96902391
>>96902394
Was it really that good in Final Fantasy? I remember it being fun but I thought UB control was better overall.
Anonymous No.96902428 [Report] >>96902500
>>96902420
>Trying to play Magic
Imagine being this dumb LOL
Anonymous No.96902434 [Report]
>>96901802
Having cool things in the setting that exist outside of legendary creatures also helps Avatar immensely. You have spirits, soldiers, and hybrid animals, rather than just random civilians.

You're 100 correct about the fact that WotC will be genuinely clueless as to why people like one and not the other.
Anonymous No.96902436 [Report] >>96902526 >>96902559
>>96902339
why do you consider that one the strongest?
draw 3 cards is good, but skipping a turn is bad and your max hand size is reduced.

compare to this card
Anonymous No.96902438 [Report]
>>96902418
Its a faaaaaaake.
Anonymous No.96902451 [Report] >>96902466
>>96902418
Did they forget to finish the art?
Anonymous No.96902466 [Report]
>>96902451
thats an edit. he shopped out the legs
Anonymous No.96902477 [Report]
We need shrine lands already. Imagine playing mono black and slapping this baby down
Anonymous No.96902500 [Report] >>96903009 >>96903085
>>96902428
I can't help it, sorry. Is there anything I can do to improve that list? How long will it take me to actually make all this stuff?
Anonymous No.96902502 [Report]
>>96902368
anon do you not know what an armadillo is
Anonymous No.96902507 [Report] >>96902588
>>96902426
Gruul was arguably the weakest in an otherwise decently balanced set. Golgari and Izzet were the top two. I didn't play Spiderman, but I don't think Gruul has been the best color pair for draft since MH3, and before that maybe like ONE in 2023? It's not often its top dog. Generally if an aggro pair is on top, its boros.
Anonymous No.96902519 [Report]
>>96902420
for a new player, it's not bad. I assume since you're here that you know but I'll reiterate just in case: do NOT play commander under ANY circumstances, it will teach you literally nothing about how to actually play the game.
New players tend to gravitate towards mono white aggro/lifegain so this is a fine start. If you're going to use this, though, play unranked for a while, you're going to have a miserable time trying to rank up with this deck
Anonymous No.96902526 [Report] >>96902730
>>96902436
You can play entirely at instant speed on other player's turns using nothing but rituals and pitch spells for mana. You can win entirely off Soul Spike and Similan Spirit Guide Lightning Bolts- after all, you're drawing three fucking cards every single turn.
Anonymous No.96902556 [Report]
>>96901325
Close enough, welcome back recurring nightmare.
Anonymous No.96902559 [Report] >>96902724
>>96902436
This is a bad Vanguard. Telepathy is pathetic when you have shit like "infinite instant speed bounces" or "your enemy has halved life" or "ignore the fundamental mechanics of this game"
Anonymous No.96902588 [Report]
>>96902507
>Golgari and Izzet
Interesting. I had a good Golgari deck with those 3/3 fliers that kill things. I haven't had a huge amount of luck with Izzet but I pretty much never see their good cards because two other people are always fighting over them.
Anonymous No.96902707 [Report]
>>96901325
That's going to be an interesting interaction if Gift of Immortality is also attached. Yes, I know it's not legal in Standard, but it's still a thought experiment
Anonymous No.96902724 [Report]
>>96902559
It's telepathy + 10 cards in hand at the start of game (and max hand size).
Anonymous No.96902730 [Report]
>>96902526
>You can play entirely at instant speed on other player's turns using nothing but rituals and pitch spells for mana. You can win entirely off Soul Spike and Similan Spirit Guide Lightning Bolts- after all, you're drawing three fucking cards every single turn.
Ahh, its one of the vanguards you'd actually have to build around.
Anonymous No.96902829 [Report]
>>96901278
Where's the card that turns the bear into a food token?
Anonymous No.96902960 [Report]
>>96901278
On one hand,this is Commander bait. On the other, goes great in my landfall deck!
Anonymous No.96903009 [Report]
>>96902500
>I can't help it, sorry. Is there anything I can do to improve that list?
This is the shittest of shit games that ever shit shit. It's not worth it, anon. Get the fuck out and never return.
Anonymous No.96903053 [Report]
New thread
>>96903048
>>96903048
>>96903048
Anonymous No.96903085 [Report]
>>96902500
Magic is one of the greatest games ever made. You should not play it because it is unnecessarily expensive. The thing is every single person you see playing the game is deep into sunk cost and they will demand you buy into the game to justify their own lack of self-control over their spending. Every Magic player playing in public right now suffers from some kind of brain damage that makes them fail to see that there is no sense in paying to play this game and this is because 99% of Magic players you meet in public are bad at the game. They may sound informed and confident but they are not and even if there is the chance someone in the room is competent, they will not say so because to breach the peace with legitimate criticism is practically bullying. And playing in-person is the best way. You are playing online where you will have zero chance of any feedback and thus you will take ten times the time to learn the game than some poor bastard playing in paper.

Seriously, just stop. The company managing this game is beyond retarded and incompetent and hasn't made a community-positive move in probably two decades. The number of players playing in public today are the same as from two decades ago and it's still at a level where events do not fire - that is so incredibly fucked up it's not even funny.
Anonymous No.96903386 [Report]
>>96902137
>questing beast
not OUAT, leyline, 1 mana counterspell, wilderness reclamation but a meme card that was never good in any format?
Anonymous No.96904806 [Report]
>>96897734
>>96899442
>Not legendary
Wait, you are right. Weird. Flavorwise, it should be legendary. Is this another one of those Valakut situations?
Anonymous No.96904817 [Report]
>>96899156
Nah, it was within the powerlevel shown with older avatars. Roko, the fire avatar, managed to pretty much calm down a volcano all by himself when he was in his 80's.
Anonymous No.96905984 [Report]
>>96901278
it's stupid that it's not a 2/2 bear
Anonymous No.96905996 [Report]
>>96901309
Fiend Hunter my beloved