Thread 96913642

>running campaign on roll20 using discord for voice
>campaign ends, want to start running new campaign in different system
>only one player, a long time friend, is interested
>okay I'll recruit new players
>see "Sarah" among potential recruits
>"Sarah" introduces self as "transgirl"
>intothetrashitgoes.png
>don't get a lot of recruits and 2/3 invited are no shows
>it's alright, I'll make do but still keep an eye out for new players
>the one new player seems a little dumb, and started getting weirdly pushy
>says he has a schedule issue for the first session of actual play, so we start earlier
>"wow guys we should start at this time every session"
>before I can discuss this with my old friend, new guy sets up a weekly discord event (which I didn't even know you could do without being a moderator)
>it's the earlier time
>anyways
>mention that it's cool to invite any interested friends if you have any
>new guy invites a friend in over discord
>let them into the game
>it's "Sarah"
>old friend isn't based enough to hate fags, so kicking it out just for being a tranny isn't an option
I figure the tranny problem will solve itself quickly enough. If it doesn't commit an hero, it'll either flake or create enough drama that I'll be justified in giving it the boot. My real problem is the other new player. Either:
>A) He thinks I'm too dumb to invite recruits who didn't make the first cut on my own, while also himself being too stupid to realize that maybe there's a reason they didn't make the cut.
>B) Has figured out why I didn't recruit it in the first place and has decided to actively deceive me and subvert my authority as GM by tricking me into letting this tranny fag into the game.
What should I do about this?

I've had many trans players over the years. They tend to be really good RPers and often good at gameplay too.

>>96913642 (OP)
Nice blog

6/7

>>96913642 (OP)
Post screenshot of your campaign or discord or this didn't happen.

>>96913642 (OP)
I dunno anon, it sounds to me like you're throwing a fit over nothing. The only trans person I've ever played with, across my 20 years of gaming, was awesome as fuck. It'll probably work out!

>>96913650
>tend to be really good RPers
Comes with experience, they practice pretending to be somebody else every single day.

>>96913642 (OP)
You sound like a fag, OP

>>96913642 (OP)
What System.
I need to gague how fucked this is gonna be.
I'll let everyone else call you a fag or not a fag but I need to know what the system is you're running because this sounds like a Call game or something similar.

>>96913642 (OP)
i happened on trannies that were vocal about the fact in discord games only twice, both times they were flakes but otherwise caused no issues, my two anecdotes with against your one, this is clearly a you problem

anyway the thing you should do is the same for any other player, not give a shit untill they start causing actual issues while weeding out the boring ones between campaigns

>>96913728
Savage Worlds, more specifically Deadlands: Hell On Earth.

>>96913691
Okay.

>>96913642 (OP)
So you've had your authority as a GM overulled by a new player who is now deciding when you play and who plays, and you couldn't put up any response on your own initiative, instead having come to an anonymous Mongolian horse breeding forum to beg for help?
I'm sorry, but you have already allowed yourself to be put into a state of total submission to the fags, both practically and spiritually.

>>96913642 (OP)
tl;dr, but none of this happened anyway

>>96913777
DEADLANDS, and in the Apocalypse setting.

Let it ride for about 2 months then start running NPC Comanchie who are out for scalps encounters. Always make sure the top 3 Scalpers are Wildcards.

>>96913642 (OP)
>hates trans people
>is too much of a faggot to properly assert himself when scheduling
Glass houses, seethelord

>>96913865
Interesting. Why 3 specifically?

>>96913777
>roll20
>worse, paid for roll20 pro
>critical drinker youtube tabs
>all on fucking google chrome

>>96913894
using google chrome is definitely the worst offense
>tfw you're sharing a website with google zombies

>>96913882
Because in large groups of people there's normally a hierarchy of the 3 best people who are tight as fuck. Plus because it's deadlands you can take the 3 thing in interesting directions. Plus any group that has 3 leaders is normally large enough to actually get the fucking scalps. And besides if the characters actually beat the fuckers in a shoot out, reward them with some bounty money.

>>96913642 (OP)
>t. failed male
kys

>>96913774
this. why do you give a fuck if a player is taking estrogen or dresses in skirts? it's a fucking elfgame

>>96913642 (OP)
>running a ttrpg online
That's your problem there, if you can't have an irl game involving your close friends for whatever reason just move to another type of activity. Less headaches to deal with.

>>96913704
came here to post exactly this, you absolute legend.

>>96913704
Oldfags? On my /tg/?

>>96913911
>Because in large groups of people there's normally a hierarchy of the 3 best people who are tight as fuck.
Good tip, I'll try to remember that one.

>>96913894
>>96913905
You know, I really haven't paid attention to browsers for the last 10 years. What's a good one to use these days?

>>96913650
They larp 24/7 so get tons of practice, while your average straight nerd can't even pretend to care about hygiene. It should be an easy choice?
>>96913642 (OP)
He/she/it wants to game with you online, not fuck you. Why do you care what's between their legs?

>>96913939
I'm on firefox. Works well with its many addons.

>>96913894
Lets not forget:
>Retarded enough to post an actual screenshot on 4chan just to prove themselves to an anon.

The Critical Drinker tabs are proof enough that OP is the problem.

>>96913939
Don't forget the Symbolism.
Can't Forget the Symbolism.

>>96913924
>if you can't have an irl game involving your close friends for whatever reason just move to another type of activity
In spite of the good experiences I've had online, I suppose that really is the problem.

>>96913942
I could just as easily could ask why someone would choose to reveal that they're so heavily invested in their own delusion that they'd mutilate themselves and then expect everyone else to play along.

>>96914062
You know that most trans people don't even get sex reassignment surgery, right?
And honestly she probably said that because she was worried if she told you later, you'd do exactly what you are doing now--sperging out.

>>96914062
>I could just as easily could ask why someone would choose to reveal that they're so heavily invested in their own delusion that they'd mutilate themselves and then expect everyone else to play along.
If you're willing to game with strangers on the internet you're already so far removed from my own preferences and experience that a little self delusion about sexuality won't really matter. Besides, as >>96914069 says, they don't always get surgery. They might just mean crossdressing or wigs and makeup, which you really shouldn't care about for players in a game of pretend.

>>96914069
>You know that most trans people don't even get sex reassignment surgery, right?
Oh yeah, the ones who fake it to get attention, clout or just to feel like a special snowflake. Not a fan of that mindset either.

>>96913642 (OP)
>roll20
>discord
>voice
So you hate yourself or what?

>running campaign on roll20
Stopped reading there.

>>96914069
So they can't even be bothered to put in the effort to pretend? lol

>>96913777
jesus christ that site design is eye-bleedingly atrocious

>>96913911
Do you have any evidence at all to support this claim?

>>96914283
Anictdotal Evidence and Vibes.

>>96914298
You could have just said no.

>>96914215
>Not a fan of that mindset either

well then you're gonna have to learn to agree to disagree with some people, aren't you

>>96914299
but I didn't. for a reason.

>>96914309
Because you're retarded, I know.

You sound like a faggot whose either intimidated or secretly lustful over chicks with dicks.

You sound like a faggot whose either intimidated or secretly lustful over slime molds and spiders.

>>96914302
No he literally doesn't. He's not compelled to let people like that play his games.

>>96914466
>He's not compelled
then there was never a problem

>>96914509
Yeah there is, we haven't rounded you up into camps yet

>>96914525
who? everyone who disagrees with you? everyone who's different than you?

what does that even accomplish?

point is, if he's compelled then he can learn to deal with other people, if he isn't then it isn't a problem because you can just not play with people you don't want to

it's a non-issue and there's no point to circling it like there's any substance to any of it

>>96914552
The point is killing you, retard

>>96914252
Yeah, maybe a little.

This thread has been making me think about my life. Maybe I should've kept in touch with the people I was friends with in high school and university. Maybe we could've been lifelong friends if only I had put in the effort. Maybe in my habit of never socializing outside of school hours, I was condemning myself to never form any really meaningful friendships. Maybe real friendship is what I have with the guys who I run into at the bar. Maybe I should try asking them to see if any of them would be into my nerd shit.

Maybe I should leave all this online stuff behind me and only interact with people in person from now on. It'd suck leaving my old friend behind, I've been playing with him for 7 years minus a few weeks. But I'm not confident I can give the tranny the boot without ruining that friendship in the process. It'd be better if we just parted as friends.

Maybe I should just rot alone. People are always so complicated.

>>96914302
No, I don't think I will.

>>96914562
I don't have anything to do with any of this so that wouldn't accomplish anything

>>96914579
If you're not killing trannies you're part of the problem. Always kill a traitor before an enemy.

>>96914590
>Always kill a traitor before an enemy
who is being betrayed exactly?

>>96914571
>Maybe I should just rot alone
>No, I don't think I will
everyone is alien to one another and nobody is going to think the same things you do about everything. part of life is learning to deal with people who have different beliefs than you do, even if you were to live in some idyllic monoculture that lives in your mind

low-stakes interactions like ttrpg's are good for this but if that seems like too much pressure to be in charge of, then something more casual like playing board games with people irl sounds like it'd probably be better for you

>>96914644
All humans, ie. anyone who isn't a troon or a troonlover.

>>96914658
They are factually humans. You can not like them, sure, but saying they aren't a human is the exact same fantasy as a man saying they're a woman, you just think yours should be true and not theirs. What makes them different?

>>96914690
no they're not fag and neither are you

>>96914700
Right but how? Also, if they're traitors but not humans then who are the enemy you mentioned earlier? What eldritch enemy is beyond even those who've apparently shed their mortal bindings?

>>96914729
it's not an argument, I'm just going to kill you

>>96914644
Yeah, no. I've already seen where that sort of "tolerance" leads, and I'm not interested in that dystopian future.

>>96914690
Imagine if some aliums actually intercepted Pioneer probe with description of what mankind is and where we are located, decided to come check us out and see what's going on nowadays...

>>96914757
>it's not an argument
well then I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree
>I'm just going to kill you
have fun squinting at your computer screen. I'm sure that'll get me eventually

>>96914784
Nope, I'm outside your house right now.

>>96914782
Huh, I wonder why those two images were chosen to represent humans? I guess it must represent something fundamental about us, that can't be changed and isn't subject to interpretation or change.

>>96913642 (OP)
Your campaign will implode the minute your politics get involved. 90% of modern TTRPG players are fine with the LGBT and we have a disproportionate amount of players who are LGBT in that 90%. The best GM I've ever had was a trans woman, but as an ex-Kiwi I can fully understand your hesitation though because it's unfortunately true that AGPs ruin fucking everything

>>96913777
>self dox
>on MY /tg/
AHAHAHAHA

>>96914788
I ain't stopping you, take the shot

>>96914782
on our end we aren't really different at all, but are there any settings where the pioneer probe was actually what led to first contact?

>>96914771
>I've already seen where that sort of "tolerance" leads
Do you really think this is an appropriate response to "you have to learn to deal with other people being different than you?" It doesn't matter whether or not you want to or whether I'm talking about someone with different political or religious beliefs or whatever, you really do have to learn to cooexist with people who are very different from you or any social interaction is going to be a nightmare because EVERYONE is very different from you in some way.
>I'm not interested in that dystopian future
well we're all stuck in the same dystopian future and I don't know why you'd think tolerance of all things is responsible for it.

>>96914788
I shidded on the doorstep, watch out

>>96913642 (OP)
>What should I do about this?
Your first mistake was this
>running campaign on roll20
so not doing that anymore would be a good start

>>96914782
Huh, I wonder why those two images were chosen to represent humans? I guess it must represent something fundamental about us, that can't be changed and isn't subject to interpretation.

>>96914896
This is his mother, a couple of strange Russian men just broke into our home and abducted my son. They're currently holding me at gunpoint and making me write this. Please don't cross the person he replied to, for your own sake.

>>96914984
Эй, мы жe бeлopycы.

>>96914896
>Do you really think this is an appropriate response to "you have to learn to deal with other people being different than you?"
Absolutely. For my entire life, the fact that I don't think like other people has been made abundantly and painfully clear to me, and I've had to learn to deal with it. I'm already tolerant enough. But this is where I draw a line. I will not be gaslit into accepting someone else's delusion.

>>96915100
>I will not be gaslit into accepting
Then don't. That's what I'm saying. Tolerance isn't believing in the same thing as the person you're interacting with, it's dealing with it.
You're really hung up on gender shit so imagine it was literally anything else. Instead of having a guy ask you to refer to him as a girl, imagine you have a friend Steve who wants you to call him Kyle. You know his name is not Kyle and it is, in fact, Steve but he'd really prefer to be called Kyle and doesn't like being called Steve. Would you have the same hangups about that? Likewise, if you interacted with someone who was a different religion as you that asked that you not disrespect their religion in front of them, would you respect that? Would interacting with them somehow force you to acknowledge their beliefs as your own? From your perspective as someone who's trying to GM a ttrpg what's the difference?

You can think they're an idiot and their beliefs are stupid but I feel like you're just conflating "factually incorrect" and "morally wrong"

>>96915250
No. False. The state of being a man or a woman is a property that exists in objective reality, and it is possible for an assertion about that state of affairs to be either true or false. A name is a convention. Being male or female is not, and you don't get a choice in the matter. If Steve wanted me to pretend he was a giraffe, I would likewise refuse.

>>96915250
How interesting, and telling, that you compared it to a religious preference.

>>96915250
>Instead of having a guy ask you to refer to him as a girl, imagine you have a friend Steve who wants you to call him Kyle.
That is absolutely not the same thing and you know it.

Why should I respect your beliefs? You aren't royalty, you don't have any authority. You will refrain from infringing on my personal autonomy, or I will kill you.

What's with all this political nonsense? Are we being raided?

>>96915341
lol pretending to be someone else cuz you got obliterated

>>96915250
>Would you have the same hangups about that?
What if I did? What if I found it fundamentally dishonest and insincere, and hated the idea of being that way?

>Likewise, if you interacted with someone who was a different religion as you that asked that you not disrespect their religion in front of them, would you respect that?
I'd assume they're looking for an excuse to be offended, because religion generally doesn't come up in real conversations.

>>96915349
Damn you sound mentally ill. Not your boogeyman, sorry.

>>96915341
Mrs. Janine's last ditch attempt at keeping this place alive, probably.

>>96915352
You lost, sorry.

>>96915262
What if Steve WAS a giraffe? You don't know, he could be a cross-species giraffe doppelganger

>>96915369
So you aren't actually serious about your own position? At least you can admit it, I guess.

>>96915341
/pol/acks shit up every board that doesn't have a constant stream of activity, as well as specific threads that they think would be easy to get a reaction in (such as /vg/'s /xivg/ during European hours)

>>96915262
>The state of being a man or a woman is a property that exists in objective reality
that's true

>>96915262
>If Steve wanted me to pretend he was a giraffe, I would likewise refuse.
Would you? Online on a VTT? Why? What sort of thing do you think Steve would have you do to assert that he's a giraffe? What do you think a tranny wants from you?

If you were to refer to Steve as a giraffe, does that suddenly make him one? Of course not. Why does this mean you can't still play a TTRPG together? Why does him being factually wrong make him morally wrong?

>>96915285
How? Why does one affect you more than the other?

>>96915269
Fine, imagine someone is the wrong skin color and they ask you to pretend they're the right skin color.

>>96915304
We are not Russian! We are Swedes.
Please the not of confusing

>>96915378
Yes, of course I would. If he's using a computer, he's not a giraffe. Obviously.

No one ever mentioned the tranny "wanting anything from me". What a bizarre non sequitur. If you're not female, I will not refer to you as female. If you're not a satellite, I will not refer to you as a satellite. If you're not a blue whale, I will not refer to you as a blue whale.

>>96915378
Simple : One is lying about the actual state of affairs of physical things in the world, and the other is not. I will not lie, and I will not be made to lie. Not by you, not by a tranny, not by God.

>>96915376
I'm deadly seriously, Barry. Giraffe doppelgangers would be a huge threat to national security.

>>96915404
No you aren't. Engage with the discussion sincerely or stop posting.

>>96915411
Listen pal. Engage me on my level, or don't. I stick my neck out for nobody.

>>96915417
Final warning.

>>96915421
Before, what? You gonna turn into a thirty foot tall Giraffa Camelopardalis and lick my ass?

Your funeral.

>>96915439
At least that would be more funner.. al than you.

Dusted.

Nothing beats a jet2 holiday, and right now you can save-

;)

>>96915389
>If you're not a blue whale, I will not refer to you as a blue whale.
And that would somehow keep you from playing an RPG in a VTT with someone? That would make you break off a friendship with someone and make you rethink your whole life and reflect on your "condemning myself to never form any really meaningful friendships"?

If so, you don't really hate trannies you're just very autistic and should probably just look into coping mechanisms for that instead

>>96915397
>I will not lie, and I will not be made to lie.
Then how do you play tabletop rpg's?

OP, send them >>96915481, no context

>>96915489
You seem to keep bringing up irrelevant stuff to muddy the argument because you have no leg to stand on. Strange.

I won't say things that aren't true. I don't consent to having your beliefs being forced on me. You will respect my boundaries. It's not a discussion.

>>96915489
Fiction makes no assertions about the state of affairs of things in the world, and as such has no truth value, therefore cannot be a lie. What a weak attempt at a gotcha. I know you can do better.

>>96915497
>I won't say things that aren't true
Your honor, he's lying! Wait...

>>96915497
Sounds like you and your friend who invited Sarah won't be friends for very long, and he should find other games to play with her, without you anywhere near them.

>>96915497
>I won't say things that aren't true
okay, then how do you play TTRPG's?

You know, traditional games? What we're doing here in this thread?

>>96915511
Can't engage with the discussion because you're out of arguments? lol
>>96915514
>>96915504
You're so dull.

Has anyone stopped to consider or ask OP whether his friend was aware that the tyranny had applied before

You know the best part of traditional games, /tg/?
You get to pick who you play with.

OP doesn't like trans people. That's his call. He doesn't have to play with them.
I don't like culture warriors like OP. I don't have to play with him.
It's your table, your call. You play with who you want and I'm astounded this is controversial. Morons like >>96914525 are what is ruining this board.

I'm right and you're wrong.

>>96915489
>And that would somehow keep you from playing an RPG in a VTT with someone?
Yes, because they will demand that I lie, and then screech to everyone that I'm evil when I refuse.

>That would make you break off a friendship with someone
Having principles means that sometimes you'll have to do something you really don't like.

>and reflect on your "condemning myself to never form any really meaningful friendships"?
The posts in this thread are what made me reflect.

>>96915551
Oh he knew.

>>96915577
I'm straight and you're..?

>>96915504
>Fiction makes no assertions about the state of affairs of things in the world
and neither does a person over the internet and whatever stupid shit they want to call themselves

>>96915564
this, I didn't give a shit until I saw >>96914571
I can't take seeing all this dumb culture war shit getting people to break down

>>96915604
Yes, it does. If you say you're female and you're actually male, then that's false, and no amount of high school sophistry will make it any less false. You're free to lie, but you will never make me agree with you.

>>96915527
Why are you confusing me for other people, faggot? I'm telling you you need to cut said friend off before he does it himself. It'll be mutually beneficial. If he cuts you off first there's a nonzero chance he'll go out of his way to schiz out and ruin your reputation with everyone he can.

>>96914466
>He's not compelled to let people like that play his games.
It seems like he has been, since he's made a thread to cry about it

>>96913777
Try to edit your screenshots next time Mark.

>>96915621
>If you say you're female and you're actually male, then that's false
You are correct. But why is this something you're so hung up on that you have to stand up and assert that you have never and will never tell a lie in your entire life?

>>96915582
>because they will demand that I lie, and then screech to everyone that I'm evil when I refuse
Has this ever happened to you?

>Having principles means that sometimes you'll have to do something you really don't like
Factually not what that means. I don't get your deal anymore.

>>96915699
What friend? I haven't brought up any friends in this conversation you dishonest retard. Stick to the discussion or fuck off.

>>96915751
Why are you so hung up on forcing other people to say things that aren't true?

>>96915761
You stated your long time player invited a tranny. Why would you come here to bitch and moan instead of booting him otherwise, Mark?

>>96915489
You're never going to convince him, he h as too much gender identity autism

>>96915777
Who do you think you're talking to? Jesus christ what a dumbass

>>96915782
Clearly, since he genuinely believes you should be willing to lie about what gender someone actually is.

>>96915751
>Has this ever happened to you?
I'm not going to let it happen to me. It's happened to other people too many times already.


>>96915777
Hey,
>>96915761
Isn't me. Also it was the new guy who invited the tranny. But to answer your question, I think I'm in a catch-22 where booting the tranny on the grounds of being a tranny would cause the already small group to disintegrate and ruin a long-term friendship. I could lie about why I booted them, but I wouldn't like that and I could be found out anyways

>>96915769
I ain't forcing you to do shit. Why does the idea of some tranny asking someone else to call them some shit they aren't some moral event horizon that causes you to feel the need to stand and assert your innocence? On a board about playing pretend?

>>96915782
Wasn't calling him autistic as an insult, I genuinely think looking into advice for how to deal with other people when you're autistic would help

>>96915833
>I'm not going to let it happen to me
If you're thinking of breaking up with your friends anyways, why not just talk about this whole thing? You can't consider someone else unreasonable if you aren't willing to reason with them.

>>96913720
>>96913695
>>96913650
Reddit

>>96915929
But it is what you're advocating for. You've asked me, repeatedly, why I won't lie about someone being female. I told you why. If you reply at all, in any way, this means you want to force me to comply with the tranny, or it means you believe the tranny should be able to force me to comply (same difference). I will not comply.

>>96915940
If you wanted unity of opinion, you coulda posted this on Stormfront.

>>96915951
choke on a shotgun

>>96915957
Touche lol

>>96915946
Okay. I hope you enjoy traditional games.

>>96913642 (OP)
>Roll20
>chud
>gets sand in his cooch because "muh trannies"
>can't fucking talk to people
>doesn't know how fucking discord works despite using it

It all checks out but is beyond saving. Just an hero and spare this wretched world your existence.

>>96916049
Concession accepted.

>>96915929
>Wasn't calling him autistic as an insult
But i am

>>96915823
Okay. Im not here to argue with autistic people

>>96916081
Don't do the crime if you don't do the crime, it's really that simple tbqhwyf

>>96916066
You will never be female.

>>96916103
Indeed, you shouldn't get into arguments you can't win.

>>96916132
If people followed that advice, there would be no arguments on the internet

>>96916081
What concession? That you don't want a response? What do you want me to do? I'm not gonna threaten to kill you. We disagree and you don't even have to agree about it. I would call a player a blue whale or whatever the fuck if it would get us on playing a ttrpg in a vtt 'cause that's what I actually care about doing. TTRPG's are fun.

>>96915929
>I ain't forcing you to do shit.
But you keep insisting.

>I genuinely think looking into advice for how to deal with other people when you're autistic would help
I don't need advice. I'm autistic, not retarded.

>If you're thinking of breaking up with your friends anyways, why not just talk about this whole thing?
First off, it's friend singular. Second, because it's a catch 22. If I boot the tranny and tell everyone why, I run the risk of burning bridges with an old friend. If I boot the tranny and lie about it, I will hate it and I run the risk of being caught my lie which automatically have a worse response than telling the truth. But if I dissolve the whole group, we still part ways as friends and can we maybe play together again someday.

>>96916086
Ironic.

>>96916161
Nope, your position is wrong.

>>96916106
I know. I'm not trying to be. You on the other hand will never be a man. Or worth more than mulch.

>>96916161
>I would call a player a blue whale or whatever the fuck
Yeah, because you don't have principles.

>no
>i win
>your opinion is wrong
is it just me or has guy has been keeping multiple threads afloat with this autistic screeching

>>96916204
That's incredibly offensive to mulch. I'm going to sick the entire brassica community on you.

>>96916173
Have you considered not being a piece of shit so preoccupied with what other people call themselves that it threatens what little positive human interaction you have?

>>96916230
No it ain't, chuds are an excellent type of mulch. It's the only way they can do something good for humanity.

>>96916258
We have standards. Good, wholesome, honest-to-sod mulch wants no part in being a dumping ground for that sordid slough. They Do Not Belong Here.

>>96916204
Stay furious and wrong.

>>96916173
>I don't need advice
then why'd you make the thread man

>If I boot the tranny and tell everyone why, I run the risk of burning bridges with an old friend
Then just talk to your friend about all this. If they're an old friend why not open up a bit?

>>96916211
Not sharing A principle with someone doesn't mean you don't have any. Interesting time shared with interesting people is more valuable to me than getting self-righteous about calling some asshole the thing they aren't. You can say that means you win something if you want.

>>96916238
Have you considered not being a piece of shit who violates other people's boundaries and consent by insisting that they say things that aren't true?

>>96916258
Conservatism is the correct belief system.

>>96916303
>>/pol/

Reported you btw

You're the one who will be banned.

I am the one who knockers

>>96916238
Oh that's actually the best part: this game isn't my sole source of positive human interaction, and now that I've reflected a bit I've decided I should invest more time and effort into my IRL friendships, as I think it'll be better for me.

>>96916282
>Then just talk to your friend about all this. If they're an old friend why not open up a bit?
I just explained it to you, you bastard son of ChatGPT.

was actually looking for new stories of shitty DMs anyway

>>96916354
>you bastard son of ChatGPT
it sounds like you would've been better off using a bot if all you wanted was an echo chamber to throw your ideas into until you came up with a solution yourself

>I should invest more time and effort into my IRL friendships
again, start with board games, it's a way easier /tg/ starting point for normies

>>96913777
SMBC good

>>96916332
lol owned

>>96913642 (OP)
Choose to be an adult and talk about it with your table, explaining to them why you do not want to accept this particular player into your group
or
Shitpost about it on 4chan and whine like a little bitch how this new person doesn't psychically get you don't like trannies
Considering you're doing the second, I'm guessing you just wanted everyone to agree with your dogwater baby bitch wariness of transsexuals instead of seeking advice, desu

>>96913642 (OP)
>What should I do about this?
Have you tried getting over yourself?

>>96913642 (OP)

you need to make it obvious that you won't play with faggots if this is a dealbreaker for you. put a MAGA hat as your profile picture or something and they will self-filter themselves from your friend group.

you are simultaneously too inflexible AND too cowardly to stand up for yourself

>>96913680
jlejl

>>96915341
sorry, it's just that nobody like troons

>>96913642 (OP)
Toss them both. Start over. Do not give up your authority as the GM in the future.

>>96915377

if /pol/ would actively ban all of the paid shills that conveniently avoid blue boards, they wouldn't need to migrate

>>96913650
I call bullshit. I had to deal with dozen of Trans RPers they were all shit at it. Hell they can't even be a chick but always fucking trans. (I mean in a game where you CAN be a actual girl. Why would you want to be a faggot in a skirt outside trying to get attention and all.)

>>96916049
>Call Lucifer the only true God right now chud or you're a bigot! What do you mean you won't say that, how does that even affect you lmao, just say it and mind your own biz!

You are intellectually dishonest and you argue deceptively only out of desire to support a certain group of people.

>>96913951
Librewolf (firefox fork) is better.

>>96913642 (OP)
OP, I sincerely hope you find people you can form a genuine connection with. Maybe even some who'll be interested in the same hobbies as you. Feels bad to see someone so lonely and eaten up by it.
Also it's very hard to keep myself from trying to bait you because it would be so easy but I do mean it, I hope the best for you
>t. ranny

>>96916303
... and that relates to chuds or mulch... how?

>>96919203
Sounds like you had gender euphorics in your group instead of gender dysphorics. I don't really get why but they see being trans as rainbows and sunshine, instead of pain to be relieved. You will not catch me playing a tranny unless there's a gun to my head because going through this once is already more than enough

>hates trannies because they are liars and telling lies is the absolute worst
>proceeds to lie to his friend because he's too cowardly to stand for his convictions
I hate culture war chuds so much

>>96913642 (OP)
>Another spineless cunt got owned by a random stranger online, so he comes seething
>Predictably, he gets laughed out by everyone

>>96920052
Not every lie is equal, it's a matter of magnitude.
One thing is being secretive about your motives.
Completely another is saying something against personal convictions and opposite of objective reality.

Surely you see the difference between not admitting that it was you who farted and saying that Lucifer is God, no? Lmao.

>>96920052
>>96920125
Also, to elaborate:

Lying for personal reasons is deception.
Lying because someone demanded that you do is humiliation.

End of story.

>>96920020
It was back when I was still playing in game shops and all. Also I don't bother learning the current term they use to be different. Though I have heard most people do the tran shit are white guys trying to get ahead and use it as a shield to get away with everything.

>spineless cunt was looking for an echo chamber and now tries to weasel itself into a position of righteousness
>you are and will remain a spineless cunt

>>96920151
Basic way to tell is if they refer to themselves exclusively as trans or if they generally call themselves a woman or man. The ones trying to get on with their lives don’t want attention given to them being trans and will only bring it up if asked. The attention seekers are the ones who remind you about it at every opportunity without bein pg prompted.

>>96913695
As a tranny myself if someone introduces themselves as "HIIII I'M A TRANNY BTW" they will probably be obnoxious as fuck. If it's online game people will never know about me being trans.

I won't play with troons not because they're trannies, but because I refuse to play with women

>>96920573
So trans men are fine?

and this is why tg hobbies are the best.
they really filter hard retards like the op by forcing them to socialize, behave normally and be generally not be subhumans
so eventually you are left with mostly functional people and the truly horrendous groups that will never step out of their containment table so who cares really?

>>96913642 (OP)
>What should I do about this?
pic related, OP

just embrace it,OP

>>96920487
If you don't they accuse you of "tricking them"

>>96913777
Jackpot.

Contacting your players on R20 with link and screenshots to the thread.
Have fun OP. I'm sure you'll find some more players and friends. You seem like such a swell guy it'll be easy.

>>96913650
not really been my experience though I've only dmed and played with 3 trains. Usually they just play their "Ideal" self (as in, literally what they envision themselves to be physically) and tend to be annoying and sanctimonious in-character, as they try WAY to hard not only to act good but to make sure everyone else know that they are virtuous.

>>96920998
bro I'm trying to play DnD, not fuck you. No ones going to accuse you of "tricking them" if you don't say you're not trans.
Though if you're on hormones you'll have the voice and we can tell.

>>96913642 (OP)
>>96913777
First, good job doxxing yourself OP, how can you complain about other people when you don't know how to take a screencap.
Second, has the trans player done anything wrong so far? Because by your account the main issue was another player who didn't respected you enough to consult you before doing things, and the trans player didn't do anything even when you didn't invite her in the first place. I would test the trans player and kick the idiot who didn't ask you before taking over your recruitment and discrod.

>>96921114
OP is a retard that has a sissy fit when he thinks about having to associate with a trans person anon.
he spent multiple posts talking about boundaries like another person's sexual orientation/identity is a violation of his human rights
he aint gonna do the reasonable thing here, let's be honest

>>96921083
Funny how different that is from my own group, me and my best friend both play characters whose moral compass always points to the monetary north with very few exceptions.

>>96921093
Assuming you're talking MtF, hormones don't do anything to the voice, you gotta train it. I know someone who passes perfectly until their just straight up man voice comes out.
If you're talking FtM then yeah hormones do affect the voice but I don't remember catching any peculiarities with them but then I don't know many

>>96919203
Because it's a fetish.

>>96920052
You know those are two different people right? lol

>>96920067
And, again, the fact that you think it's about the lie itself shows that you STILL don't understand his position.

>>96920247
Nope, you lost the argument.

>>96921187
>Assuming you're talking MtF, hormones don't do anything to the voice, you gotta train it.
you sure? Theres this voice that MtFs always seems to get that I assume came from hormones because its always the ones going through HRTs that get it. Is it just entirely put on like gay men with that horrible lisp?

>>96920573
But you aren't playing with women.

>>96920998
Because you are.

>>96921185
You're male.

>>96921187
You don't know anyone who passes.

>>96921286
i know. i even have a loving long term relationship with a woman. how about you?

>>96921264
Yeah, I don't remember what exactly causes tranny voice but it's the most difficult part to train out of your voice. I don't know if I have it and I'm too scared to record myself to find out :3

>>96921294
Actually there's this guy I know who was given a maid outfit as a joke, some peeps got him to put it on and wear makeup and sure he's a bit of a twink so it's kinda cheating but he sure didn't look like a guy right then. He's cis tho so idk maybe this isn't really relevant to your statement

>>96921409
lol seething

>>96921417
He definitely did look like a guy. You don't even believe what you're saying.

>>96921540
Anon stop trying to gaslight me if you're going to do such a bad job of it. Go practice on your players, it's a good skill to have as a GM

>>96921532
i aint seething anon. you are, at the very idea that a person might consider themselves a different gender

>>96921264
Bro I've been six years on HRT and I assure you my dude voice is exactly the same it has always been. MtF hormone replacement does jack shit to vocal chords. If someone was the effeminate flaming gigafaggot type of a tranny then of course they'd have the low-T faggy voice, but they'd have it without HRT as well.

>>96920998
I don't claim to be a woman, my handle won't be "Sarah", and I use my male voice. Where is the tricking? And even if I did use my passing-to-normies trained voice, they'd have to be pretty deep on the tranny derangement syndrome if they straight out ask "uhh just to make sure are you a real woman?"

>>96915497
>I won't say things that aren't true.
So you'll admit that you're a woman, then? Because you're acting like one on her period.
Remember, no lying.

>>96922733
>hey'd have to be pretty deep on the tranny derangement syndrome
Given OP's answers, he is. He even made an entire thread about it.

>>96914571
>Maybe I should've kept in touch with the people I was friends with in high school and university.
yeah no shit
>Maybe real friendship is what I have with the guys who I run into at the bar.
the bar is the literal worst place to make friends
>the tranny
you genuinely don't deserve to be friends with decent people if you're calling her 'it' and 'the tranny' unironically
>maybe I should just rot
I think you are a fucking retard anon. just stay on the chinese incel forum where you fit in and give up on society. the other anon is probably right that you're incurably autistic and should learn to cope.

>>96921083
Not my experience at all. I've played with a good amount of trans players, and they've usually had the most varied roster of characters. Only knew one who made "trans" characters, but that's because they always liked chicks with dicks, even before transitioning.

>>96922051
If you consider yourself to be something that you aren't, you're wrong.

>>96921593
No, I'm correct, and it's quite obvious from your posts.

>>96923709
>>96923713
>deranged /pol/kek returns
>starts responding to posts in order, one post at a time
>comes across >>96923304
>immediately develops gender dysphoria and self-destructs

>>96923713
I think you might be hallucinating, have you tried getting that checked out? You're clearly seeing things that aren't there

>>96922714
damn, it must be put on then because I knew some dudes who before talked entirely normal before but afterwards had the "fran dresher if she were a gay twink" vocalization so I just assumed it was a hormone thing.
>>96923459
If true, good for you, though I am reluctant to believe anything that sounds too libtarded until I see it myself due to being in too many lefty spaces and just getting tired of the weird fetishization of any minority group so "X are actually the best players I've ever had" sets off warning bells in my mind.
Let me be clear they weren't horrible players but its the kinda thing where I saw that they played that character every single time and I realized what they were doing and it just felt kinda sad.

>>96923890
holy cope LOL

Every single one of you is male last post

>>96926967
I recognize thread-necromancy when I see it, sage.

>>96913939
>You know, I really haven't paid attention to browsers for the last 10 years. What's a good one to use these days?
there's no need to feel attacked or shamed anon. use whatever you like. if it works for you, who are these people to say anything about it?

having said that: firefox

>>96913642 (OP)
axe both of them faggot

The only tyranny we ever let into our group is currently in prison for possession of child pornography.

>>96923709
I bet you consider yourself straight, then.

lol he's so fuckin mad, and male

>>96914896
>"you have to learn to deal with other people being different than you?"
Strange how that always means the people who you don't like get the short end of the stick. You'd think eventually you'd have to deal with people being different from you.

Isn't it strange how people who really are female never have to demand that other people call them female? I wonder if there could be some actual non-arbitrary differences between things in objective reality that words refer to. I can't think of what else would explain this.

>>96931840
Isn't it strange you still want to bump this thread because trans people live rent free in your head but no one is answering because they're tired of your shit?

>>96914571
stop being a dramatic faggot I had no friends until I was 26.
>Maybe I should leave all this online stuff behind me and only interact with people in person from now on.
yes
>It'd suck leaving my old friend behind, I've been playing with him for 7 years minus a few weeks. But I'm not confident I can give the tranny the boot without ruining that friendship in the process.
stop being retarded. Just say you don't wanna put up with the transformer and you're nuking the campaign because online niggers subterfuged one into the game.

Your friend will probably say some shit like
>you're not even gonna give the campaign a chance? You're blowing it up because this player might be shit?
and he's probably right, but fuck it it's your campaign if you don't wanna do that shit you dont wanna. It's no one else's call and if he's worth keeping around he'll understand that.

>>96931921
You're male.

>>96913642 (OP)
Kick them both out and start over. Tell your friend you can't stand trannies and didn't want to play at the earlier time.
Also stop being a little bitch

>>96913642 (OP)
>>96913777
You need to get better opsec, but most of your new players sound subpar anyway. Getting doxxed isn't fun but in a sense, it's a positive thing because it shows you who your real friends are. I recommend setting up an ad in the /osrg/ or one of the other generals. In my experience, they're a lot better than randoms. Best of luck!

>>96921033
I like seeing neo hall monitors in the wild. I imagine this faggot, hunched over a sticker-strewn laptop, giddily dusting the cobwebs off of his Roll20 account to spam 4chan links and feeling like he's struck a blow for social justice. Like he has any status on-or-offline that hasn't been given to him by someone else.

>>96921114
That's a non-sequitur, OP isn't obligated to participate in someone else's fetish.

>>96913642 (OP)
Your peers are making friends and having fun while you're stuck having autistic meltdowns on the internet. Your body has aged but mentally and emotionally you're the same lonely child you were when you were 14.

>>96933745
Women aren't allowed on the internet, gtfo