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>Most recent bracket system update
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-october-21-2025

>Outline article introducing the bracket system
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta

>Current banlist
https://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned

>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committee
https://mtgcommander.net

>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet
https://www.edhrec.com

>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper format
https://pdhhomebase.com/
https://www.pdhrec.com/

>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices
https://www.archidekt.com
https://www.moxfield.com
https://www.tappedout.net

>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity
https://managathering.com

>Card search
https://scryfall.com

>Precons
https://magicprecons.com

TQ: Post your pet card

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>>96918651
around 90% of these lesson cards have zero reasons to be "lessons"

Thoughts on Hieromancy?

>>96918644 (OP)
>TQ: Post your pet card

>Want picrel as commander
>Stuck between go wide (multiple creatures to make foods), go tall (Soulcleaver onto Gyome before saccing foods), or aristocrats (Mirkwood bats, Nadier's Nightblade)
>Current deck is a shitty mishmash of the latter two

This should have been a lesson

>>96918644 (OP)
>TQ
I just want a rat deck that isn't just "Spam rats with Marrow-Gnawer" but every attempt at building this lil fucker leaves me starving for card draw. Either that, or I realize I'm just better off playing Marrow-Gnawer and make him one of the 99.

>>96918651
How does this not just make a food? In what way is this a counterspell effect?

>>96918644 (OP)
>TQ
Don't have one. I don't like putting shit cards in my decks.

>>96918721
Shouldn't even be a food. He's having a fucking peyote trip. Should probably be some sort of disabling effect.

>>96918718
have you tried this cutie?

>>96918721
>How does this not just make a food? In what way is this a counterspell effect?

>>96918741
I know about Vren, but I tried using this guy instead cuz of the access to red, plus Vren would fit into this deck nicely.

>>96918757
>sassy black women
>you think you're going to get a tip on this $237 meal?

>>96918757
is that really the reason? Weak as fuck reason.

>>96918767
>AntiUB Cuck says something
>Gets knowledge checked by a UBChad
>uuuuh weak reason!
Mega coping

I'm just saying that if hybrid mana is the hill you're dying on when we're staring down 7 sets a year and none of them being playtested, you deserve the future this game is bound for.

>>96918772
kind of lazy troll

Is this the ultimate Timmy card? Have you ever successfully hardcast this?

>>96918766
You should only tip for exceptional service.

Is this ever good?

I am guessing I just go hard on treasures?

>>96918781
feels like even if you hardcast it someone is just going to farewell it the next turn
protection doesn't mean shit on something that big

>>96918791
the funniest thing is how well the titanic fits in a jaws deck and vice-versa

>>96918778
But anon theres only 3 sets next year

>>96918718
I built patron of the nezumi has a discard/group slug thing. Rats love controlling hand size

>>96918855
post list?

>>96918789
Yes

What's this but for magic?

>>96918903
For EDH, its running more lands.

>>96918903
what point is this trying to communicate?

>>96918857
None for that one sorry, maybe on an old archidekt account ill look. It was a bit old would probably be better if cant remember if WOE added any good black rats. Your discard rats of choice, similar cards to nezumis ability and stuff like pestilence to keep things going to the graveyard.

Persistent Petitioners bros....

>>96918914
Weird way of spelling "draw cards"

>>96918903
Literally fucking anything
>Abolish the reserved list
>Improve reprint policy overall
>Establish more rules or at a minimum guidelines for Commander rather than trusting people to always self-select
>Actually banning busted to shit cards
>Playtest the fucking cards especially when you're designing them to see play in a fucking eternal format
>Print to demand
>At a minimum, be more selective about which IPs get a UB set printed in Standard
>Make a functional online client that isn't a joke next to fucking Master Duel of all things
But somehow this playerbase has collectively accepted Mark's constant gaslight that WotC can't do anything that literally all their competitors do.

>>96918971
>Playtest the fucking cards especially when you're designing them to see play in a fucking eternal format
but have you considered that they sold a lot of Nadus before it got banned?

>>96918971
Never use Master Duel as an ideal model for anything. Dogshit version of the game that’s nearly unplayable hand trap netdecked meta slop 99.9% of the time. Oh you’re about to rank up in duelist cup, be a shame if Ching Chong bob disconnected you and you get the loss despite him about to lose with no cards in hand.

>>96918997
It's not the ideal model. However it still completely mogs both Arena and MTGO and that's more a testament to how bad they are rather than MD being good.

>9 different aang creature cards
Very genuine roster of characters, Nickelodeon.

>>96919012
URZA MOGGED

>>96919012
they were dying of thirst for cards to fill this set. They gave memes like cabbage guy multiple cards.

I can't wait for the DB UB and no less than 30 Goku variants.

>Blow up stuff of neckbeard
>Neckbeard gets angry and starts focusing you
>Blow up stuff of other players
>Neckbeard realizes you just go for the biggest threat and he will look absolutely petty if he continues to focus you
>Neckbeard has to force himself to fight other players even though he is still mad at you
It's funny, you can actually see the realization kicking in. How often does this happen to you?

People think I combo out with innala/kuja, should I swap to a different commander?

>>96918778
>I'm just saying that if hybrid mana is the hill you're dying on when we're staring down 7 sets a year and none of them being playtested, you deserve the future this game is bound for.
Have you ever heard the phrase "the straw that broke the camels back"? That's what this rules change is. On top of everything else going wrong with the game wotc is showing that they're willing to frivolously change the rules to push product.

>>96919075
I don't think it is being done to push product

>>96919065
If an opponent targets me once I hard target them for the rest of the game, even if it makes me look petty or is an objectively bad play. I play for the vendetta.

>>96919088
Based neckbeard

>>96919075
Yes and instead of you making that straw 7 untested sets in 1 year, you chose the dumbest fucking hill to die on.
>I can tolerate a sequel to Spider-Man even after that set bombed
>I can tolerate them not playtesting their cards
>I can tolerate limited run secret lairs having mechanically unique cards
>I can tolerate them saying Kinnan and Food Chain combo are appropriate for bracket 2 but any voltron deck isn't
>Oh but a change to hybrid mana? God forbid that's where I draw the line! I MUST make my opinion on this matter known, fighting tooth and nail over it, rather than literally any change that would substantially improve the game.

>>96919079
Sure is convenient that this rules change coincides with Lorwyn right around the corner. And don't forget that we just had a rules change specifically to allow spaceships to be commanders right before the spaceship set released.

>>96919119
Why wouldn't they make the change earlier if it is so obvious? What was the logical reason to do this? Spaceships didn't exist yet

>>96919055
Fans will just eat it up since each of those cards will have different transformations Goku currently has available.

>>96919133
I was able to think up 35 separate Goku cards they could make if they were as liberal about it as they have been for Avatar. You could easily extend it to 50+

>>96919112
I can ignore bad sets and brackets are a suggestion. But a change to the rules affacts everything. It's less a straw and more a sledgehammer to the back.

I've never really looked close enough at Toshi's card to see how hard the art goes with all the bodies in the background. I think I'm going to move him closer to the top of my to build list.

>>96919144
>I can ignore bad sets
No you can't retard. If you're gonna give some bullshit about self-regulation you can do that with hybrid mana too.
This is literally just you drawing the dumbest fucking line possible in the sand and making yourself look like a jackass.

>>96919144
>brackets are a suggestion.
Not really

>>96919123
Because they don't care about keeping it secret. They want the rules change fresh on people's minds for the set release to drum up interest.
>Spaceships didn't exist yet
Which proves that rules change was solely for the purpose of pushing product.

>>96919161
If they don't care about keeping it secret, why not just state it when asked?
Your reasoning really seems to be "I just know."

>>96919160
>Not really
My LGS ignores them and has their own house rules and banlist. They had this even before brackets. So, yeah. They are just a suggestion.

>>96919173
What's stopping your LGS from ignoring the hybrid change?

>>96919163
>why not just state it when asked?
Bad optics to just out and say it. That would impact sales and PR.

>first reprinting in 30 years
It should be illegal to not reprint a non-RL card for several decades

>>96919175
good sense

>>96918767
MTG has been doing references to its own cards for a very long time

>>96919228
That isn't the issue. The issue is it does not fit that card or the moment it is referencing. Spider-Man referenced an old magic card as well. But it made sense. This one doesn't. How does a peyote trip relate to countering?

>>96919233
Sometimes mtg references are just to the card itself, not "fit". Vertical cycles were like this, for example

>>96918778
There was no discussion to be had about "7 sets a year" or any of the other stupid decisions WotC have made in the past 6 (almost 7) years. At least 90% of players hated the idea of most of them and they went through with them anyway. If this is the only topic they're willing to even entertain feedback on, then I'm gonna make my frustration loud and clear until I'm blue in the face.

>>96919261
>I'm frustrated because of other issues so I'm going to make this issue everyone's problem
How about you consider the proposal on its merits rather than whether you're on your period

>>96919269
The proposal is for WotC to change a core restriction of a format they took control of after asserting control over every other aspect of the game and demonstrating that NONE of their decisions can be trusted. Even if it's a GOOD change (in my view, it'll be neutral at best), that alone is more than enough of a reason not to let them make the change.

>>96919269
I dint consider ideas on their merit. I exclusively base my opinions on the opposite of whatever people I hate say.

>>96919261
Oh so you'll only protest if WotC lets you then?

>>96919283
This is the opposite of considering the proposal on its merits, thought you should know in case you think otherwise.
>>96919286
So you let the people you hate steer your every like and dislike? That's a weird fetish, anon.

>>96919301
I almost never buy any of their products, I only just started getting back into the game this year because a bunch of other people I know got back into standard. It's basically one of only two ways I can get any social interactions with people that actually care about me.

>>96919302
A good rule for life is to recognize that proposals don't exist in a vacuum and you should never consider them as if they are in a vacuum. If something goes against a core aspect of a system, implementing it is still not a good idea, even if you have every reason to think it will be a good idea. I find it odd this line of reasoning isn't intuitive to you.

>>96919327
>If something goes against a core aspect of a system, implementing it is still not a good idea, even if you have every reason to think it will be a good idea. I find it odd this line of reasoning isn't intuitive to you.

I mostly reject the premise in this circumstance, the reasoning is quite intuitive. But you're making gig claims here considering color identity is the part of the system in contention with the rest. Color identity is something made up out of whole cloth and doesn't exist outside of commander

>>96919302
The merit of the change is that it serves no purpose. It is at best a net neutral for the game. And change for changes sake aline is not merit enough to justify a change.

>>96919342
>Color identity is something made up out of whole cloth and doesn't exist outside of commander
And if wotc has their way it won't exist within EDH either.

>>96919283
Don't act like hybrid mana was never a discussion or consideration before a year ago

>>96919344
That's still not the merit of the change! Keep trying!

>color identity is the part of the system in contention with the rest.
>Color identity is something made up out of whole cloth and doesn't exist outside of commander
>doesn't exist outside of commander
Yes, that's the point, you retard. Believe it or not, people want a format they like to stay the way it already is.

Please stop replying to the fucking hybrid mana bait guy

>>96919358
This part of the format is and has always been wrong tho. It's inconsistent with effects like extort and hybrid mana doesnt even behave as an "and" in the first place

>>96919369
Reminder text doesn’t count. This has been explained to you dozens of times now.

THERE I REPLIED TO THE FUCKER, NOW NO ONE ELSE HAS TO
JUST STOP

>>96919383
Why should hybrid mana count when effects which reference hybrid mana don't? It's inconsistent.

>>96919369
>It's inconsistent with effects like extort
If any changes should be made, they should be to make all monocolor cards with extort have a BW color identity, among other changes that iron out similar issues.
>hybrid mana doesnt even behave as an "and" in the first place
That's the point; it does behave that way IN COMMANDER, you fucking autist.

>>96919402
It only exists because the RC needed a ruling one day so they could go back to playing their game. I don't begrudge them that, but to say that it's a good call is ridiculous, right up there with putting pet grievance cards on the banlist and not revisiting them after the format became the biggest part of MTG. It's just wrong!

>>96919402
Hey remember when I said to stop replying to obvious bait?

>>96918721
>In what way is this a counterspell effect?
Because he's accidentally getting HIGH OFF HIS ASS on that cactus juice and becoming a useless burden that can't do anything.
The card's countering effect is you casting a "get shitfaced" spell on your opponent, causing them to fumble their spell.

My favorite black card (it has a little skull in the text box so this means it can only go in black decks)

>>96919351
I accept your concession

>>96919383
>Reminder text doesn’t count.
Why?

>>96919435
NOOOOO IT DOESN'T COUNT IN REMINDER TEXT BECAUSE....BECAUSE....IT JUST FRICKIN DOESN'TARINO

>>96918778
Congratulations, /edhg/
You have proven my point.
You deserve the future WotC has laid out for you.

>>96919432
It is extremely extremely flimsy.

>>96919439
>>96919435
I'm the "hybrid mana bait" poster and even I can answer this: it's because of rule 207.2 and 207.2a in the comprehensive rules, which defines what reminder text is:
>207.2. The text box may also contain italicized text that has no game function.
>207.2a Reminder text is italicized text within parentheses that summarizes a rule that applies to that card. It usually appears on the same line as the ability it’s relevant to, but it may appear on its own line if it applies to an aspect of the card other than an ability.

>>96919447
Oh yeah? Well I'm poopdickschizo and I say Sheldon didn't want the skull appearing in the mono fire deck, even if it was in parentheses.

>>96919453
based poopdickschizo

>>96919453
Well, the big C got Sheldon years ago, and I would not advise setting up a round of phasmaphobia to ask him whats up about all this

I'm surprised Korra didn't get a card. I thought she would be in one of the Secret Lairs or something. Maybe they already have a deal for a Korra set in the future?

>>96919439
>>96919442
The only things that affect color identify are mana costs, color indicators, and rules text.
>903.4. The Commander variant uses color identity to determine what cards can be in a deck with a certain commander. The color identity of a card is the color or colors of any mana symbols in that card’s mana cost or rules text, plus any colors defined by its characteristic-defining abilities (see rule 604.3) or color indicator (see rule 204).
Reminder text is not rules text.
>207.1. The text box is printed on the lower half of the card. It usually contains rules text defining the card’s abilities.
>207.2. The text box may also contain italicized text that has no game function.
>207.2a Reminder text is italicized text within parentheses that summarizes a rule that applies to that card. It usually appears on the same line as the ability it’s relevant to, but it may appear on its own line if it applies to an aspect of the card other than an ability.

>>96919468
This isn't what Sheldon would have wanted.

>>96919461
>I'm surprised Korra didn't get a card.
Why? It's a Last Airbender set.

>>96919461
need to save Korra for the next set.

Anyone ever built mono green elf tribal? How good is it compared to other tribals?

>>96919459
>and I would not advise setting up a round of phasmaphobia to ask him whats up about all this
What kind of ghost is Sheldon?

>>96919477
elfball is a perfectly serviceable tribe in the year of our lord 2025

>>96919480
I couldn't tell you; I only played that particular friendslop like twice and I don't even think I saw a ghost

>>96919486
should have played it alone

>>96919487
the whole point of games like that is to play with a friend or friends, preferably with a beer or maybe a joint

>>96919470
anon he was the one that made it that way

>>96919490
Only because WotC forced him to. Sheldon didn't like seeing mana symbols that didn't match the commander.

>>96919492
what's it like having schizophrenia

>>96919500
Sheldon's vision for the format is not schizophrenia.

>>96919442
It's okay that you're retarded just go do it somewhere else

>>96919517
>u-ur retarded!!!!
lmao seething

>TQ
Sometimes you just need a 7/7 Demon with Flying and Trample.

Ramp? For that, we use the green card.
Draw? For that, we use... the green card.
Removal? For that, we use... that's right, the green card.

>>96918644 (OP)
>TQ: I ruin someone's night at the pod (for the third time in a row)

>>96919552
Ramp? For that, we use.. the artifact!
the green card. oh ok
Draw? For that, we use...this is easy the blu card!
the green card. noooo please
Removal? For that, we use... *crying* the black card the black card!!!
that's right, the green card
*sob*

>>96919579
I run this in a hyper ramp Ygra deck it ruins a lot of people's day

>>96918903
hybrid mama

>>96918903
For Magic, it's "putting good looking characters on cards".
For Commander, it's "talk to your group".

>>96919593
>Talk to your group
>Talking to group:
>No pleeease let me play my kinnan I promise he's bracket 2 you're not giving me a chance let me play stop being such an asshole!!!

>>96919593
Trvke

>>96919593
>talk to your group
You have this ridiculous fantasy where you can just talk to your group

>>96919600
This is why you shouldn't let troons in your group

>>96919586
I've gotten close to making people scoop. They do that whole "aw geez there's goes my whole board that's not cool" whiny shit.

It's mildly sustaining - especially when I have a gorillion pests to block their ire.

I encourage the Hybrid Mana change, because it means Wizards will start dumping out a hell of a lot more legendaries that are technically 3+ colors but can be built dual or even mono-colored so you don't have to make another gay ass 3 color deck just to have a Commander that's actually fun since WOTC can't design shit for mono/dual colored Commanders.

>>96919615
That's retarded, you're retarded. I have an Uril deck that has zero red cards in it except for some mountains. Nothing is stopping you from running a 3 color deck as a two colour except yourself.

>>96919593
>Nooo why isn't every single card featuring a super model

>>96918971
>Abolish the reserved list
cringe

>>96919659
Get a job

>>96919659
I am a few thousands deep into the reserve list and I wouldn't blink if it was abolished.
At which point will that change?

Yugioh manages their game better than wotc

>>96919670
yugioh is an awful game.

>>96919671
and yet they will actually ban cards and update the format. Genesys is completely mogging MtG right now because it had the balls to do something WotC never would do, and ban OP shit people complained about.

>>96919673
How many FTKs does magic have? How many games have you played where you lose before you can make a game action?

>>96919673
>they will actually ban cards
They would have to ban all cards that reference other cards and then another two thirds of the remaining cards before the game becomes playable.

>>96919671
And no one's denying that but it's still better managed than magic.

>>96919665
I have one, I only bought RL cards long after they were put on the list. The exclusivity is cool and 99% of the RL isn't even good, let it be cool and old. Look at what happened to Barktooth Warbeard. No thanks.

>>96919675
Lots of them, actually. If we use the retarded strawman logic you're about to.

>>96919676
You know it's funny you say that, given that Yugioh's stance on it has actually been much stricter than what WotC has been doing.

>>96919680
Get a real investment

>>96919685
>investment
Do people hold onto cards expecting them to make more money in the future? I own them because they're cool.

>>96919689
And you'd still own them if they got a reprint. Your reason is nonsensical and boils down to "because." Fuck off, faggot.

>>96919647
>accuses others of being retarded when he built a 3 color voltron deck in the most retarded way possible

>>96919684
You misunderstood my point. Yugioh designs cards that work as a package and don't work with anything else.
Demonic tutor is the least offensive design possible in that regard.

>>96919676
>>96919698
>Yugioh bad because I don't know what the poopfart card is tutoring to hand
In Magic you don't know what the poopfart card is tutoring to play.

>>96919704
Why are you replying to my posts as if I am saying the exact opposite of what I'm saying?

>>96919707
idk why you're self-reporting that you're retarded anon.

>>96919675
>How many FTKs does magic have?
A lot, actually. Modern and Legacy have a few and vintage has more. Even EDH has them. Godo can easily combo turn 1 and any deck with consultation + thoracle can threaten a turn 1 win.
It's also worth noting that FTKs in Yugioh are seen in a more positive light so long as they don't become a tier 0 strategy. It is a game where you can win turn 0 just by drawing Exodia, afterall.

>>96919692
>hyperbole
lmao. Nice argument but I don't have to adhere to whatever deck building philosophy you do. I built the deck without red cards because there weren't any red cards that I thought it needed. You can force yourself to run pointless cards if you want to but I won't.

>>96919690
>cards are cool
>are exempt from shitty, god awful reprints like Spongebob
seems like a good reason to me. let's be honest, you only want the expensive ones, the 99% are all there but "wah i want duals"

>>96918718
Have you considered Wick? The slug helps fuel your card draw and is always growing as you throw down more and more rats.

>>96919652
this, MaNo. why is it not so

>>96918644 (OP)
I don't know if he counts but I've found myself putting Meteor Golem in more and more decks lately. Not only does he look cool he's also good for providing potentially repeatable removal in colors that could use it.

Fuck Edgar. I'm building mono-black Vampires

>>96918791
Pretty much, yeah. Red is probably the best at shitting out treasure so he's going to do a lot with all the treasure stuff. Kind of wish he had some discard synergy to work with the blood tokens he makes, but would have probably been too much considering how much he already does.

>>96919720
>you can win turn 0 just by drawing Exodia, afterall
The weird kid down the street beat me this way 20 years ago.

I knew he cheated. The odds of getting it were extremely small. And I was an adept enough liar to know that he was pretending to be surprised. But we just shuffled up and we played 'again'

This kid once spread a rumor that this japanese monster he had drew 3 cards as its flip effect.

>>96918971
>Improve reprint policy overall
Fuck it's insane how much this could fix if Magic did this. Even the complaints about Universes Beyond could be fixed if they reprinted them more with different universe art. This game has a horrible problem with reprinting of all things.

>>96919477
You'd have to be a special kind of retard to fuck up an elf deck

>>96919477
Elves is quite possibly the most supported tribal. I don't play elves or green really but I think its relatively budget friendly. Its a strong and simple deck.

>>96919593
>For Magic, it's "putting good looking characters on cards".
It's kind of ridiculous how Universe Beyond has the better looking cards. What the fuck man. I'd like to think they'd learn something form the artists they've gotten for the Avatar set but I really doubt it.

>>96919797
Elves has a lot of those $5-$10 cards which is the territory where it doesn't seem much but it really adds up, but yeah it's relatively budget friendly compared to other top tribes. Especially if you're doing mono green and not golgari.

>>96919760
Build mono black Edgar.

>>96919552
Can't kill creatures bigger than your creatures unless they're flying.
Can't draw cards unless you have big creatures.

>>96919917
They heard a youtuber say that green is overpowered so now that's the closest thing they have to an opinion. Just let them have it.

>>96919923
Green is overpowered in casual commander because people somehow came to the conclusion that playing a game that doesn't suit green's gameplan (no early aggressions, too much removal and wipes is feels bad, no touchy the landerinos, etc.) is a breach of the social contract and bringing bad vibes to the table.

Like yeah if your average table are a bunch of retards that get sad if anyone makes any meaningful game actions before turn 6 then of course green battlecruisers are going to seem overpowered.

>>96919749
Yeah, this is me
>>96918760
It's coming along OK but now I feel like my mana base is off. I hate how hard Wizards makes getting half-decent multicolor lands.

>>96919949
>I hate how hard Wizards makes getting half-decent multicolor lands.
It's literally the easiest it's ever been.

>>96919944
there are no other colors that can play mana dork -> mana dork -> game winning advantage
and playing enough 1 mana removal to counter this will lose you the game against the other 2

>>96918903
Card print on demand service.

>>96919944
>no touchy the landerinos
this hurts literally every color except green more

>>96920038
who would do that to non-greens when green is the problem

>>96920070
Considering White is the weakest color and Black is the strongest color, I don't see why Green is the problem here.

>>96920082
>>96919978

>>96920103
>my first 2 turns are mana dorks
>somehow I win on 4 mana
you can pretend if you want, I guess

>>96918644 (OP)
>TQ
Its staying power sucks, but it can still give you nice stuff and has a bit of evasion.

>>96920111
you really think they play a dork that only produces 1 or let alone a single dork with 3 mana? and you are for some reason assuming they don't have a land drop when untapping on t3? whatever

>tfw my pet card is a super beat up old Plateau from when I was a kid
>inb4 IT CANT BE A PET CARD IT'S AN EXPENSIVE STAPLE!!!

>>96919978
>mana dork -> mana dork -> game winning advantage
swamp -> dark ritual -> entomb -> reanimate

Post what you're brewing and what you're listening to

>>96920167
https://youtu.be/h6hcmWtkkHQ
Making some kind of progress, at about 40 cards, 11 of which are lands. Focusing on ETBs and token generation. About to suggest to my buddy that I could use Quicksmith Spy since I could give TWO whole artifacts T: Draw 1 if I have Panharmonicon out.

Based or cringe?

>>96920167
I already posted him
>>96919760
It's probably gonna take a while to hammer this out

We listenin to my favorite official MTG music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kaLxpc7rS4

>>96920131
>IT CANT BE A PET CARD IT'S AN EXPENSIVE STAPLE!!!
this but unironically

>>96920313
>I can't love a card because other people know it's good
you're a faggot

>>96918644 (OP)
>Post your pet card
FUUUUCK YEAH

>>96920315
I understand you have some emotional attachment to a card you've had since a kid but a fucking OG dual can't be a fucking pet card what the fuck.

>>96920319
>attached emotionally
>include it where I can
>clearly owned for years and not something I bought a week ago
That's literally a pet card, you MONG

>TQ:
I just think it's neat!

>>96920332
Nope

I'm a newfag but she was the first mythic I pulled and the first commander I built with shit I got from standard around the time of MOM.

>>96918903
Its a switch that says
>fuck gavin

>>96920332
Unfortunately your feelings are wrong

>>96919327
This nigga over here literally espousing the sunk cost fallacy

>>96920332
"Pet card" typically refers to the abstraction of the card, the combination of design and flavor that was then printed onto thousands of pieces of cardboard, rather than the specific piece of printed cardboard that you have in your possession. I'll admit that it's a bit of a weird distinction, especially since I can't think of another term to describe your relationship to your Plateau, but I can say that I've never thought of a "pet card" being inherently non-fungible with other printings of it. For example, some people will try to acquire foils or special printings of their pet cards, rather than sticking with the scuffed-up copy they pulled from a booster, because they're more attached to the abstraction of the card than to the physical instantiation of it.

I respect your stance on the matter and your attachment to the signifier in your possession. Just wanted to do what I could to clear up what seems to be some of the disconnect in the discussion.

>>96918682
My first commander, I love him

>>96919065
Never, if someone in my group decides to trget you they don't let up. it can be something as minor as a ping for 1damage.

>>96918644 (OP)
>TQ
Cone of Flame must target 3 different targets.
You may choose yourself and you opponent as two of the three targets.

>>96919477
It's a high 4.

>>96918644 (OP)
>Post your pet card

>>96919652
Well, why isn't it?

>>96918644 (OP)
>TQ: Post your pet card
It's just so efficient

>TQ
I just think he's neat

any recs?
https://moxfield.com/decks/HgXxtUeOG0qO7IIKmTlrYA

>>96920156
how many copies of ritual and entomb do you run again against their 10 dorks?

>>96918644 (OP)
It is one again time for me to shill this thing.

>play picrel against a flubs with geas cradle etc
>’stax players…’

How is this stax?

>>96920599
Hot

>>96920577
I hated this so much in standard.
Oh you didn't draw removal in your opening hand? I guess you lose the game.

>>96920625
but that's exactly what commander is right now

>>96920608
Denial of any kind is "stax" to dipshits.

>>96920608
new players don't know the difference between stax, punish, and control

>>96919065
This is literally entirely headcanon lmao

>>96919079
Wat

>>96919155
>no you cant
Uhhh yes I can? What world do you live in.

>>96919432
ah sure, you make me shitfaced and a useless burden after i already spoken the words to cast the spell already on the stack and well on its way to fuck you up the ass, totally flavorful
tardo

>>96920722
yes

>>96920332
>include it where I can
This is what separates a true pet card from your plateau. Usually including a pet card will be of detriment, or at the very least far from the most efficient form of whatever it is. Your plateau goes everywhere, and it is objectively the best option for it. You arent making any concessions to include it.

>>96920430
Not even remotely what that post is conveying you retarded wotc shill lmao

>>96920599
Choker? I barely know her!

>>96918781
Maybe not ultimate timmy but it's up there.
I played against that general a lot back in the day, I have lost to commander damage before.
Here is a deck tech from 10 years ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKtXQ0y7nvc

>insane flash cards in Avatar
I think it's finally time to build her. This deck has been my white whale for ages.

>>96919720
>It's also worth noting that FTKs in Yugioh are seen in a more positive light so long as they don't become a tier 0 strategy
yugioh had the very fortunate benefit of the anime making exodia look very cool (also exodia being an assembled monster instead of some vague gobbledygook like channelfireball makes it easier for casuals to accept a tiny chance of being ftk'd)

>>96919798
it's also very ridiculous of hasbro to tolerate loony lefties fucking up UW art direction but what can you expect from a ceo whose last name is COCKS

>>96920938
I fail to see what exactly makes some basic hand extension so interesting for a "flash tribal" deck honestly. You sure you wouldn't prefer building that around something like WoE Alela or something? Unless you really must have white.

>>96920570
great taste anon

>>96920987
The hand extension is markedly more interesting. It opens up Counter-Top, scry/surveil matters, top deck manipulation effects, and random Enlightened Tutor blowouts.

Also white has far, far more flash utility than black.

>>96920082
>Considering White is the weakest color and Black is the strongest color
incorrect
casual edh:
1. green
2. black
3. blue
4. white
5. red
cedh:
1. blue
2. red
3. black
4. white
5. green

>>96921102
...so taking EDH as a whole, Blue is the strongest and White the weakest colour, thanks for confirming.

>>96921152
yes the conventional wisdom still holds, correct

>>96918644 (OP)
>TQ
I think you can tell what kind of decks I usually run

>>96921198
Decks that fold instantly to spot removal?

>>96919652
Even if that is what anyone said, why not? The characters don't exist. They're all imaginary. There is literally no reason they can't be other than WotC wanting a shitty art direction.

>>96919720
>Modern and Legacy have a few and vintage has more
I only see one list in Modern that's a FTK, and it's inherently inconsistent, whereas Yu-Gi-Oh has several FTKs because they've made handtraps so readily available. Magic lacks a Battle Fader and Imp Perm, and a FoW/FoN sets you back 28% of your starting hand compared to the 20% those ask.

>>96921303
>Combo/stax cuck gets mad at genuine mtg enjoyer
That's why I enjoy long games with friends while you sweat out 2-3 turn combofests.

>>96921341
>Why yes, I do like to play 5 hour battlecruiser games where the board gets wiped four times and the winner is whoever the worst player at the table plays kingmaker for!
Retard

>>96921341
>Running a Path to Exile is stax

>>96921341
Damn, didn't expect my facetious remark to actually hit a bullseye, nor for it to get under your skin this hard.

>>96921354
>COMMANDER IS ABOUT WHO WINS!
The entire point of commander is to hang out and have a fun casual time with friends caring about who wins is completely against the point. I play games and I come out having a fun time you play games and come out in a worse mood.
>>96921382
Reddit tier post

>>96921395
Reddit tier reply.

>>96919593
>yea its jodah, but theres a theme to the deck!
>all lotr legendaries, game is over t5
>haha, wasnt that cool?

Should I do it?
Should I go balls to the wall retarded?

>>96919439
Because it’s a fucking reminder, the clue is in the name. It exists solely so you don’t have to look up the billion fucking keywords in this game.
Functionally it does not exist on the card.
In fact, certain prints of cards will omit it for a cleaner look

>>96921395
>UHM, ACTUALLY, IF YOU TRY TO WIN IN THIS GAME THAT HAS RULES AND AN EXPLICIT WIN CONDITION, YOU'RE CRINGE!
I can't tell if this is bait or if you're just actually fucking retarded. If you can't have fun while still competing, that's because you're emotionally and mentally stunted, and you should probably stick to coloring books.

>>96921459
They’re not going to add “wishboards” because wishes do not need sideboards to function and never have.
Wishes pull from any card you own that is not in a game zone. That’s why they say “outside the game” and not “from the fucking sideboard”

FUCK I wish people would actually read the rules of the game they play

I actually really like this one

>>96921448
You did it, anon. You broke Hatred in EDH!

>>96921459
depicting fucking shitass hybrid cards as the coolest thing ever is proove enough that last night someone tapped your head and scrubbed a good chunk out

>>96921474
>is proove enough
Good evening my good bloody bastard saar

>>96921473
>broke
>requires an additional 3 attackers plus folds to any instant removal
Anon...

>>96921459
>The slippery slope is not real

>>96921483
how does universe within even compete?

>>96921497
Bye space sword :(

>>96921504
In-universe =/= universes within

>>96921490
>you WILL lie under its wheels
>you WILL find nirvana under the crushing weight

>>96921492
Anon my point is that Hatred has been an abusable card ever since the format was made.
You can pretty much do the same thing with any commander that has evasion and lifelink.

>>96921504
she's cute yet also funny

>>96921519
>Poo in loo
>
>SHIT in the fucking TOILET

>>96921547
>big news for the pedophile community

>>96921395
>The entire point of commander is to hang out and have a fun casual time with friends caring about who wins is completely against the point
>STOP FARMING ME FOR WINS YOU FUCKING SWEAT I DON'T WANT TO LOSE TO YOU ALL THE FUCKING TIME
lol you guys are the sorest losers

>>96921579
No games

>>96921599
you wish people played with you roru rumao

>>96921395
Why can't people have fun and win, and if all your decks are about dealing combat damage with an unblockable creature, why is aiming to win suddenly a bad thing?

>>96921551
imagine getting this mad over cartoon drawings

Somebody give me the quick rundown what the fuck happend here?

>>96921638
Better templating

>>96921638
>2
>=3
on natural (and whole) numbers the expresions are equivalent

neat

>>96921663
These screenshot cards really do look like someone's shitty custom proxies

>>96921673
+1 good screen capture art
>>96921663
+1 bad screen capture art

looking to round out my collection. currently have: chaos into combo toolbox, living death zombies, praetor reanimator shutdown, go wide weenie storm, life gain/loss, and aristocrats spellslinger burn. any suggestions?

>>96921791
simic

>>96921795
imagine being this creatively bankrupt

>>96921791
XU fliers

>>96921471
I think I have a deck where I can pull this off (Ashad) but I don't know if it's fast enough to be worth it. It sure is tempting but it might be just a little too telegraphed.

>>96921812
>ask a question
>answer it
>hates you for it
not only have you made it harder for others to be spoonfed in the future you've now outed yourself as a filthy casual that's allergic to winning, sad!

>>96919917
>Can't kill creatures bigger than your creature
It's a 6/6 with lifelink that takes away life from you every time you cast a spell. Fight spells are your best removal because they have incidental lifegain
>Can't draw cards unless you have big creatures
It's a 6/6 in the command zone.

>>96921483
>melty bangs on left
>swirly mountains in the back
oh yeah, it's slop
also lol at that lasso tool fist enlargement "fix"

>>96921812
if all your decks are unique snowflakes then none of them are

>>96921898
I always thought his argument was retarded. No, it doesn't mean none of them are, it means all of them are. They dont suddenly become identical because theyre unique.

>>96921497
Space Sword is an eqquipable Meteor Golem. Alright that's kind of cool.

>>96921467
Wishes should be able to pull from exile like they did originally.

Custom cards thread.

>>96921938
>They dont suddenly become identical because theyre unique
ok hipster

>>96921954
>posted it again award.jpg

>>96921961
fukken double kek

>>96921898
>>96921880
i think its a lazy answer. a big part of the format to me is expressing creativity in deck building and making it "your deck". anyone can toss together an edhrec shithole simic value pile, i am out here to farm "what the hell ive never seen that before" from people

>>96922053
Looks cool, but I have to be pedantic and wonder why the mana symbol is smaller. Also I think the text is formatted wrong. I feel like it should be larger. Also also, no set symbol, or watermark and no bottom text and no credit to the artist.
But still cool.

>>96922091
>a big part of the format to me is expressing creativity in deck building and making it "your deck"
>also i'm going to ask other people to spoonfeed me ideas because i'm not creative enough to think of decks
good job undermining your own point
the fact that your immediate knee jerk reaction to simic is ramp and that you can't think of anything else is doubly hilarious

>>96922135
anon there is a difference between crowdsourcing inspiration and asking for a decklist, though i wouldnt expect a simic pile player to understand the difference

wont this be pretty crazy in a mishra, eminent one deck?

>>96922158
>he still thinks simic is just ramp and nothing else
your dullness betrays you

>>96921624
It's the mental gymnastics of a chronic loser. They'd rather invent new rules/codes of conduct and claim that it's impossible to have fun unless you abide by them, than admit that they suck and despite caring a whole lot about winning, don't want to get better.

>>96922186
>haven't mentioned ramp in any of my posts
schizo simic anon's reading comprehension has been shut off

>>96922176
this is crazy in anything that does the thing. another KOS, literally

>>96922202
>haven't mentioned ramp in any of my posts
>btw i hate simic because they're all the same pile (which is ramp duh)
kekw
>currently have: chaos into combo toolbox, living death zombies, praetor reanimator shutdown, go wide weenie storm, life gain/loss, and aristocrats spellslinger burn. any suggestions?
my suggestion is to have a brain and for once stop using red, white, and black

>>96922091
>i am out here to farm "what the hell ive never seen that before" from people
That's cool and all but in my experience people who focus too much on that tend to make barely playable shitpiles who rarely do "the thing" and can't survive being interacted with and their pilots then tend to be really salty whenever they couldn't show off all the cool, rare interactions they put into their deck. Not saying that's you anon, just saying that's my personal experience.

For me it's like people trying to force le epic nat 20 moments in TTRPGs, those moments are cool partly because they're rare, once you start trying to force them into existence they become lame and mundane. "I've never seen that before" moments are more special precisely when a deck is otherwise perfectly funcional.

>I don't care about winning
>but I MUST be able to reduce your health, unblocked
>yes you life will to down
>but my goal isn't to *win*
>I just want your life to go down

>>96922176
It speeds up reaching 8 copies by a turn cycle and then increases the number of copies you get to make if you keep targetting it with Mishra. It's cool but I think this card will be best in generic sacrifice/treasure decks who don't even need any commander synergy to activate this, it literally only take 3 turn cycles to reach 8 copies just sacrificing a mere treasure or whatever each turn.

>>96921467
>because wishes do not need sideboards to function and never have.
Except in like every format where they are used

>>96922243
edh's biggest mistake is letting these kinds of players have a voice
public shaming needs to make a return asap, because westerners have become so drunk with freedom that they've freed themselves from all shame as well

>>96921467
You're fucking retarded lmfao. Try reading up on format rules before shooting your mouth off next time.

>>96922240
yeah that is definitely a trap that is easy to fall into, but i also generally like optimizing my decks and i think i do a pretty good job of being able to do both. mostly i try to avoid winning via common cards like craterhoof, or by including interactions that make sense within the context of the deck and are improved by the overall synergy/theme of the deck. i think you can have unique decks that are also well built.

>>96922268
I'm probably pretty lucky in that the general group of people I play with is mostly people who play, or have played in the past, competitive formats so the difference in mentality is very noticeable, people who play cEDH also have a different mentality in casual tables. By that I mean that they're not necessarily tryharding but they're not crybabies about things either.

>>96922176
Not really
the trigger being limited to only your end step makes it very narrow

>>96922176
probably fine, but I think it would be better in dimir artifact piles that can copy it to get it online in 2 turns

>>96922236
>still trying to put words in my mouth
ok anon
>RWB
the deck lists above are: URW, URB, UBG, WRG, BWG, BR, but sure anon, keep coping

>>96922367
>yes 2/3rds of all my decks have either red or black in them but i definitely dont have a preference
>and im totally not using archetypes centered around red black and white (chaos, reanimator, storm, weenies, aristocrats, lifeloss)
Roru rumao

>>96921483
Damn I need that to be in white

>>96922431
>poor simic anon also cant count to realize that the color spread is almost perfectly even across the board

>>96919647
Anon you're retarded; mountains aren't red cards

>>96922483
>fuck i got caught
>i'll just say "almost perfectly" as a copout
Kekw
Nice archetype preferences and all but go build a mono green, mono blue, or *gasp* simic next time, for once stop touching your graveyard draining people and getting off to casting mutiple spells per turn

>>96922091
>"a big part of the format to me is expressing creativity in deck building"
>BTW guys spoonfeed me creativity pls

Do you think they were originally hoping to AI upscale it but the AI backlash (especially among the types of people playing Magic) made them decide to release these ugly as shit cards?

>>96921961
>>96922062
Replying to your own post. How pathetic.

>>96922538
>lose an argument
>people dont agree with me? It's totally just one guy!
Mindbroken

>>96922515
savaged

>>96922546
I wasnt the anon requesting OCdonutsteele deck ideas, I just think that particular scene from The Incredibles is logically flawed. Calling me a hipster for pointing that out doesn't make sense. The only person who would find humor in the nonrebuttal would either be a samefag, or someone of a similarly faggy nature, so I hedged my bets.

The guy asking for original deck ideas is a fucking clod, as pointed out by >>96922515

>>96922547
I just don't get the dissonance behind it.
It would be one thing if the request was "give me unconventional deck ideas," but it isn't, it's "I want to be creative, but not actually put in the work at making my deck." It's like, bitch, if I'm running what I think is a creative deck idea, you want it, you're not making "your deck," you're making something derivative of mine because you deliberately asked for it.

>>96922577
It's on you to feel being called out for being a hipster
Point is Syndrome makes perfect sense, and he is proven by the mere existence of hipsters

does this still make the cut for you or has it been replaced and if yes with what?

>>96922623
Still a staple in casual imo

>>96922623
I wish I had the balls to run 1 for 1 removal in a multiplayer game. now that I think of it, maybe it's because I am playing multiremoval that my opponent then has an easier time removing my shit because I did all the work for them

How pissed would you be if I flicked this a few times? I actually have one cardboard

>>96922677
I'd scoop and say I don't play with cheaters

>>96922677
Trust me, nobody is impressed

>>96922663
Make it versatile removal.

>>96918644 (OP)
>TQ
Pic related. It's a lot more amazing than it looks. I just wish it wasn't limited to your opponent.
>inb4 "there are targeted phasing you can use on your own stuff"
The conditional exile hits what I want to exile. I don't want a Professor Onyx to phase back in.

>>96922722
my removal is usually just too expensive because it's either synergistic/modal or multitarget

>>96922702
>>96922689
It's just a random card I pulled from a mysterybox, and obviously, I dont have the power 9, but the wizards ruling says I don't need to own the original and can have proxies to shuffle into my deck.

Would it be cancer? https://moxfield.com/decks/fDdYAKNEG02izfpJ-M8N_Q

>>96922776
it's illegal is what it is

>>96922783
it's not a tournament

>>96922794
ok, since there are no rules I'll just stack my deck instead of shuffling

>>96922268
It's really funny how
>I want to make my commander, the main identity point of my deck, big and beat people with it while having a fun time with friends
Is a sentiment that sends the 3Cs (Comp Combo Cuckolds) into an absolute rage

>>96922677
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/xCRcG62RUfo

>>96922537
Maybe the company worth millions of dollars could commission some more art or maybe humans to manually upscale the shit

>>96922776
>Would it be cancer?
No? By the time you got it setup drawing most of the power 9 wouldnt be particularly great (except the blue ones). We dont usually play Un-cards and the like in my playgroup, but I guess i'd let someone play this if they really wanted to (would not wait for them to make more if they ran out of proxys though)

>>96922537
100%. wotc would never again pay a single shekel to artists to manually redraw the shit

>>96922815
>bring a timmy commander to beat face with
>opponent brings a toshiro umezawa / kaervek the punisher (OMG CEDH TIER)
>your timmy commander dies over and over and you lose
>you cry for losing despite claiming winning and losing don't matter
it's hard to defend casuals when they're often like this

>>96922803
>can I use this silly card?
>oh ok since we are playing silly I'll just play cards from my asshole

I can't WAIT to bounce all those earthbent creatures to hand and LMAO

>>96922858
>come to play a casual game with friends
>realize [insert friend in group]'s deck wouldnt function and therefore he wouldnt have fun if I just removed his shit constantly
>do not remove his shit
>this leads to them winning sometimes when he wouldnt otherwise and othertimes he still loses
>everyone has fun chatting and talking shit over the game
>this is incomprehensible to the comp fag because they have 0 social awareness and will literally chimp out if they don't make the optimal play for "winning" the game or if someone else does something they think is suboptimal
People play the game to have fun if you want every deck and play to be super serious and optimal go play a 1v1 format in tournament

>>96922881
>earthbend? get bent!
BAZINGA

>>96922881
Time to make Aetherize and Aetherspouts game changers.

>>96922891
>realize [insert friend in group]'s deck wouldnt function and therefore he wouldnt have fun if I just removed his shit constantly
>do not remove his shit
>this leads to them winning sometimes when he wouldnt otherwise and othertimes he still loses
yes yes it's always someone's else's responsibility to adjust to the pod, 100% someone else's problem
never (You) ofc, because you're special

>>96922909
they will be put under MLD so you can't play those below B4 anyway

>>96922912
You're doing the thing
You're getting mad over suboptimal play because you have no social awareness
Literally exactly what I said in my post. Please tell me why it's definitely someone else's fault that they wanted to just come play a few games to relax from work and you just blow all their shit up every game so they can't fucking play because
>sorry bro it was le optimal
and somehow theyre the bad guy for then not having a good time, and not coming back because you don't understand how to interact with people. You didn't win anything, you just made someone else's experience worse and they are less likely to come back. I can't understand the hubris of someone who chooses to tryhard in a format where theyre basically guranteed to lose over 50% of their games no matter what. It's almost akin to cuckoldry.

>>96922912
You do realize that this format was never in anyway intended to be competitive, it's literally the format made to ESCAPE competitiveness.

>>96922934
>again it's YOUR responsibility to accommodate ME
>i'm tired from work ok? just do what i want!
>i'm going to cry if you keep beating me even though i already said winning and losing don't matter!
lol all i see is ME ME ME it's hilarious

Okay. I've got my mana base, ramp, card draw and removal covered. Time to put in the fun stuff.
>89 main deck

>>96922950
>X wasn't made to be competitive
>therefore it must never be competitive because i said so
imagine being this naive
just as people will take anything unseriously, other people will take things very seriously
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_UPHsGR6fM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_UPHsGR6fM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_UPHsGR6fM

>>96922952
and people wonder why they hate cedh and pubstompers, you are autistic and don't fit into the social format. go play legacy or modern.

>>96922950
stay in bracket 1 timmy

>>96922963
Nice, but 4 person tetris wasn't created as an alternative to competitive tetris to use all of the weird shapes.

sheesh, you'd think an autistic person would at least apply some level of reasoning, maybe ask an AI for your next reply since you struggle at coherent thought

>>96922977
>toshiro and kaervek are cedh now
>yes they're at the same level as simic pubstompers fr fr

I dont know guys; I enjoy building suboptimal decks, but when i'm actually playing a game, I dont see the point unless I am actually trying to win with the tools at my disposal (suboptimal though they may be). EDH was conceived to use all those big wacky cards you could never get away with running in normal constructed, I dont think the intention was that you not try and win

>>96922978
>using brackets
>using wizards 'spike, johnny, timmy' player classification when they have utterly failed all formats they have created and had to take over a fanfiction format that became their best one
>while they whore out their IP space

>>96922952
Yes it is YOUR job to accommodate YOUR FRIENDS in YOUR PLAYGROUP so they can ALSO play the game and also HAVE FUN. It's called playing a game in a SOCIAL environment with OTHER PEOPLE where other people's enjoyment of the game ALSO MATTERS if you didn't, as I have now stated and been proven right multiple times, 0 FUCKING SOCIAL AWARENESS you would understand this. This isn't the format for you.

What are the most impactful CEDH avatar cards?
Cabbage Merchant, Librarian, and what else?

YYYYEEEEEEESSSSSSSSS!!!!!

>>96923032
Holy based

>>96923030
>>X wasn't made to be competitive
>>therefore it must never be competitive because i said so

You stated something factually incorrect, sorry if you predicated a future argument on it.

>>96922960
Some sacrifices need to be made. See if you can work in fun stuff that also does the removal or draw or ramp. Or just start with the fun stuff and hope for the best.

>>96923032
Guess that's the reason for him not being on the other card.

>>96923012
>YOU YOU YOU
>ME ME ME
man what a day
what an exquisitely retarded melty

>>96923012
>es it is YOUR job to accommodate YOUR FRIENDS in YOUR PLAYGROUP so they can ALSO play the game and also HAVE FUN.
You have this ridiculous fantasy wjere you just talk to your playgroup.

>>96922960
Play a commander with a built in value engine if you want main deck space for fun stuff. You cant have both

>>96923055
you saying it's incorrect doesn't make it so, bud
because the inverse is also true; that a game meant to be competitive can also be made uncompetitive and casual
otherwise women's sports wouldn't exist KEKYPOW

Still upset they chose Joo Dee as Sakashima but thankfully Koh got a card on his own

>>96923009
>remember, they never tell you you're wrong

cedh is a plague upon this game

>>96923074
it's true regardless of if I say it or not, trying to gaslight people with your autism that edh/commander was not created as a casual kitchen table magic format with friends is foolish. Being hyper competitive in a fanfiction format that isn't designed to be competitive, elicits 'you shouldn't be a faggot competitive player' responses when you sperg out about how people care about other players engaging in a social, casual format.

Competitive is the outlier. You can play competitive all you want, competitive doorknob humping seems right up your alley

>>96922934
>>96923012
What you're describing is a bracket mismatch. You can build decks with power and theme restrictions but the moment the game starts you should be playing to win.
Looks like you want a bracket with no removal. If you can organize that with your playgroup that's fine, but you can't expect random people you play with to not use removal and let you win just because you build your deck in such a way that the alternative is your deck doing nothing.

>>96923119
>making a casual thing competitive is bad
>but making a competitive game a laughingstock is good actually
damn i might have just found the one (1) that watches women's sports holy shit lol

>>96923135
whoa anon slow down there you're making way too much sense for /edhg/

just play mother of runes dummy

>>96922960
That's a good problem to have.
Simply remove the worst card from each of the categories listed.

>>96923110
what the fuck did we ever do
all I want is to play my broken decks against other broken ass decks, let normal edh players do their thing, I don't give a fuck

turn 3 of a game, you're going first
nothing really at all on the board yet
one guy has sol ring
you play rec sage
is it bm to blow up the sol ring?

Sometimes I don't immediately play spells that could potently win me the game because I just like sitting down and playing long games of commander

>>96923203
no

>>96923194
the problem is that some people just happen to know how to build decks optimally even under casual cedh while too many casuals still run 33 lands and a 3+ avg cmc
and these casuals choose to lash out and refuse to adapt because they have this false notion that learning to play the game optimally somehow also removes your ability to also run decks made entirely for the lolz

>>96923094
We knew Koh was getting a card from Maro's teaser (at least I think he teased the name, he might've just teased the creature type but everybody saw "Legendary Shapeshifter" and went "oh that's Koh").

>>96923203
I blow up sol rings before my first turn and the rest of the table is cheering every time it happens. Especially if the sol ring owner already slammed a signet/talisman on the table in the same turn.

>>96923135
have you considered that pregame discussions don't exist and I should be able to sit down at any table anywhere and everyone else should understand how I want the game to be?

Now that the dust has settles on Hybrid Mana color identity rules staying the same. When are the rules that only a Legendary Creature can be your commander will start to be enforced again?

>>96921626
You are sexually attracted to cartoon children.

>>96923250
>Now that the dust has settles on Hybrid Mana color identity rules staying the same.
Did I miss a news post?

>>96923032
>he can change at instant speed
Now this is FIRE

>>96923139
by all means, I'm eager to hear how your competitive doorknob humping league goes.

>>96923032
Koh removal tribal is going to be hilarious

>>96923252
if we weren't supposed to lust after her, why did she get a foot focused art?

>>96923262
No, in fact Commanz Zone put a video shilling for the change so it’s even more confirmed that it’s already happened and WotC just hasn’t announced it yet

>>96923252
uh oh someone's uncomfortable lol

>>96923203
>is it bm to blow up the sol ring?
Blowing up early Sol Rings is possibly the least controversial acts you can take, even the biggest baby
>UHHHHH EVERY DECK SHOULD GET TO DO ITS THING
fag wouldnt be mad at that

>>96923272
based on your salty tears i'd say i'm getting more than enough ROI bwahahaha

>>96923252
yes, and?

If a commander is more than 2 colors, I don't play it.
If a commander is more than 4 cmc, I don't play it.

>>96923327
we know tymna-thrasios player, we know

>>96923337
No, that's 5 cmc.

We should make partners work like companions and you have to pay 4 mana to unlock your partner

>>96923312
>unable to understand other people
>reflexively resorts to 'u mad'

I'll be upset if I'm forced to play with you

>>96923276
As surprising as this might be for you to learn, most people aren't attracted to feet.

>>96923355
that's factually incorrect
75% of the porn on rule34 for MTG is foot fetish stuff

>>96923350
CEDHfags would riot

>>96923252
she's hot and so is this version of Azula

>>96923352
funny thing is i know how to adjust to the power level of the pod i'm in
don't tell me you're going to cry at my sephara fliers?

>>96923342
rogsi player? based

Is there a big blue creatures commander? The only commander with blue I have is Veyran and I'm bored of it.
I want something that deals combat damage.

>>96923390
sea creatures tribal is the obvious one, some giants but those are a bit of other colours well

>>96923390
Satoru Umezawa and cheat out big dudes with nijitsu

>>96923390
go simic and go Kruphix or Arixmethes

>>96923390
Simic but just fill her with big blue creatures and it works out perfectly

>>96922815
>Using spot removal on my commander means you're playing combo!
Shut up faggot.

>>96923398
>sea creatures tribal
How does this only have 400 decks on edhrec, is it bad?

>>96922776
>just a random card I pulled from a mysterybox
>Would it be cancer?
Those $400 packs? If it isn't Timetwister, you're bending the rules just to flex that you bought one of those. I wouldn't just tell you to play with a different deck, I'd tell you to go fuck yourself and get out of the pod since you're just trying to be an asshat.

>>96922868
i think ante is silly too
we're not playing for keeps right? it's casual!

alright, powered down, thinking I might change out the commander still for another grixis wizard, but getting double magus' sound fun

>>96922820
God the fucking obnoxious way his voice sounds.

>>96923400
>loli
>a bunch of hags
hehe, a fun inside joke
the 2000s was a better time

>>96923536
That's probably just a coincidence

>>96923579
>just a coincidence

>>96923593
I have a mighty need

>>96923032
So how do you build him? What would you want in 99 outside of kill spells and potential combo pieces for koh to steal?

If I don't want to do regular old spellsling infinite Fire Lord Azula, what are some cards I should try to get?
This card seems pretty good

>>96923660
forgot to attach

I really hate ub

I really love ub

Why is dimir so divisive?

If I have a "whenever Draw card" effect out and I play a spell that lets me draw two or more cards at once, does that effect trigger for each card drawn or just once for the resolve trigger?

>>96923718
Once for each card drawn.
There other way to word the trigger is "whenever you draw one or more cards" but that's not the case here.

>Avatar set used AI "artists"
Loooooollllll
https://x.com/lur_altered/status/1986529011736916308

>>96923009
Timmy isn't a magic term there's timmys in every tcg

>>96923769
I don't think it's AI because AI art is better than that picture.

>>96922623
No. If I'm running 1:1 removal it needs to hit ANYTHING at instant to remove a game winning piece, which WB has plenty way better options of.

Use case for using any other commander if I never plan to cast them?

>>96923784
Most of it really isn't

>>96923789
You forgot to attach the Gigaedgar image

>>96923769
>buying real cards? you pig!
>buying real art? don't worry artist i will white knight for you!
ecks dee

>>96922960
Ramp is a meme unless it's land tutoring like Cultivate. You only need a couple of spot removals and a wipe or two. Draw is as important at lands and you should have at minimum a dozen good draw pieces.

>>96923807
I'd buy a secret lair where the cards are printed with a blank art box and then filled in by hand.

>>96923825
They should make a very limited secret lair where you can make them print cards with a custom image.

>>96923032
>You may exile it
Fuck I've been hoping we'd get optional exile like this eventually. Koh got a cool card. God knows this guy is going to combo hard with the right setup.

>>96923769
A lot of the new card art looks AI generated. WoTC has been slipping in AIslop for a while now but the avatar set is the worst ooffender so far. And it's only going to get worse. What a bleak future we have to look forward to.

>>96923660
flash and steal spell when combat is happening tribal

>>96923934
As long as an artist is able to make their art look passable while using AI companies are all going to start hiring those guys because their rates are going to be lower.

>>96923934
One day human art is gonna be reserved exclusively for higher rarity treatments or collectors boosters.

>>96923934
>>96923941
>>96923943
reminder that in this day and age an artist's product isn't actually their art

>>96923934
Just play PreDH or start your own new format outside of WOTC rules and wokeness.

hybrid mana change good
brackets good

>>96923769
This is a dumb woman post because she's admitting the artist does have real art in her portfolio and its all a purity test because said artist doesn't hate AI art sufficiently enough

Is there a single Dimir commander which isnt
> theft
> zombies
> mill

In my quest to build a Coastal Piracy commander in every colour, I found this guy.
Does anyone have an opinion of him? He's definitely way worse than Gix, Toski, and even the Indomitable, but do you think he can work?

>>96924069
Never tried him as a commander but I like using him in my Krenko deck because Goad is good at causing havoc and the potential card advantage is always nice.

black = theft
what did wotc mean by this?

I feel like a noob for asking but oh well

if I have arcum dagsson and goblin welder in play and I use arcums ability on one of my artifact creatures, can I use goblin welders ability on the same artifact?

>>96924107
No
The short version of the answer is the entire effect of an activated ability has to resolve before another ability can start happening

>>96923512
>ignores whats written on the card

sorry faggot, if you play ante, you play ante.

>>96924212
oh NOW rules matter when you're about to be pubstomped

>>96924068
yeah, I run this guy as my dimir discard deck, also, Ever Changing Dane is fune, but esper

>>96924225
>post something that isn't un, but normal
>get autistic 'I wont abide by the card" scenario exaggeration
>'oh NOW you want to play by the rules'

dude, you are the sorriest cunt, and my RAG has already identified you as an insufferable piece of shit on multiple takes

>>96924068
Faerie tribal has like 4 different possible commanders including >>96924227

>>96922776
Another living example of why bracket 3 is to be avoided.

>903.3. Each deck has a legendary card designated as its commander. That card must be either (a) a creature card, (b) a Vehicle card, or (c) a Spacecraft card with one or more power/toughness boxes.
>(b) a Vehicle card, or (c) a Spacecraft card with one or more power/toughness boxes.
Commanders for this feel?

>>96924233
contract from below is my go-to whenever i hear weirdos like you wanting to be too cute with nonlegal joke cards and it has never failed me lmao

>>96923769
Apparently the guy does just do actual art but also runs an AI art thing for some stupid reason. Is this Toph AI art? I dunno, hard to really tell. It has some 'errors' perhaps but those are easily explainable as artstyle or just minor human issues. It looks AI-y but given that I assume the guy made the AI thing based on his own art to an extent, that could muddy the waters.

>>96923782
>Timmy isn't a magic term
Its one of the original psychographic profiles and absolutely is a magic term

>>96924068
You forgot reanimator

>>96924312
Be the meme

AIEEEE NO WOTC IS NOW PRINTING ALL THEIR HYBRID PIE BREAKS AS COLORLESS ARTIFACTS!!!

>>96924462
Do you ever get sick of acting retarded?

>>96924478
THE SANCTITY OF THE FORMAT IS BEING DEFILED AND YOU'RE HERE CALLING IT BAIT!

>>96923499
naw naw, the oracle text of that card says I dont need to own them. https://scryfall.com/card/mb2/259/oracle-of-the-alpha

really, it's just meme shit.

>>96922846
That's what I figured, I don't intend on recurring or comboing with it, just shenanigans

>>96924478
I wonder if he's the autistic online division of the pinkerton group

>>96924312
Coming soon to UB

This is kinda good for me

>>96924631
Yeah it's kinda good for any black deck that sacrifices things (ie any black deck)

Retard.

This salt shaker is kinda spicy

Wtf is godzilla like 10 feet tall?
This looks like such shit

Fresh thread

>>96924790
>>96924790
>>96924790

Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)

>>96924433
what if your opponent plays this