Thread 96920482

Are the animals of your setting sentient?

All animals are sentient (Experiencing sensation or feeling) . They just are not sapient (Having great wisdom and discernment).

>mighty queer
Did Tolkien really? Or is this some revisionist addition?

>>96920498
It's from before "queer" was sucked into the euphemism treadmill for homosexuals.

>>96920482 (OP)
>bringing Twitter engagement baiting to 4chan
Should be an automatic ban + doxxing

>>96920482 (OP)
I dunno, you ask me.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/173frlBt2GJ0DAS5VXm7I5CAIOrpcQBCI

>>96920498
retard

Yeah, because I run a Pokemon game and all Pokemon are fully sapient.

some are

>>96920498
>>96920507
Tolkien was mighty queer indeed

>>96921055
>homos cannot fathom a true friendship devoid of degeneracy
Many such cases, sadly.

>>96921073
How often are you naked snuggling and forehead kissing with your friends, lil bro?

>>96921124
Only when I've been on a 6 month journey through the wilderness, fought off a giant spider demon from a forgotten age, and then tore my way through a tower full of murderous orcs in the middle of a civil war, to find my friend tortured and delirious but luckily alive against all odds, you massive faggot retard.

>>96920507
I still don't know when queer went from being a slur for gays to an acceptable term for gays.
I literally remember it being one one day, then the other the next.

>>96921771
There was a TV show called Queer Ass Folk (that my sister obsessed about in her teenage fujo phase), I guess you can mark that as the point of it becoming acceptable expressions.

>>96921564
I wouldn't throw stones while you're justifying kissing and caressing naked dudes

>>96922556
>still making it gay
This is why everyone hates your kind, faggot.

>>96922556
Somebody like you would blow a gasket if you claimed Frodo and Sam are gay and nobody cared. Like, they just denied you and went about their day. That's kinda what you're doing here.

>Frodo and Sam are gay
>No
>Yuh huh
>Whatever
>Heh, I won

>>96922621
>>96922735
Yes it is in fact gay to caress your naked bro and kiss him. Sorry if I'm the first one to break it to you, but in days past this was a well known fact.

>>96922556
I would like to dash a stone on your forehead, Sam and Frodo are pure, damnit, pure.

>>96921124
>No, I'm not happy you're still alive! You're fucking naked!

>>96921055
IIRC the movie made that scene far more suggestive, though at least had the decency to keep Frodo still mostly clothed.
And let's be honest more people (at least in <40 age range) have seen the movies than read the books.

>>96923332
>man finds his best bro near dead, hugs him out of relief that he's still alive, and kisses his forehead
>"hUrR tHaT mAkEs Me ThInK oF bUmMiNg MeN!!1!"
Kill thyself, pathetic faggot fool.

>>96920482 (OP)
All animals are sentient. Behaviorist models of animal minds were debunked decades ago.

>>96921771
American LGBT+ decided to use it because to Americans hate initialisations and love catchphrases, sometime after 2000s, nearer 2010s I think. To me, a middle-aged European, my monocle pops every time anyone says it. Come on say 'fag', let's not say something we can't take back.

>>96923523
>>96923680
>tfw your wife won't let you move in with your boyfriend

>>96924174
Only homos and women think Frodo and Sam were lovers

>>96920489
By that criteria most humans aren't sapient either.

(Also sentience is the capacity to feel pain or discomfort in an ethical framework. Source = I had to take an ethics class in bio grad school.)

>>96920489
FPBP

>>96921771
>went from being a slur for gays to an acceptable term for gays.
I remember in high school like 2008 my school had an LGBTQ club. However, I don't think it's been acceptable in modern times for a straight person to call a fag a queer. It must be how blacks have the niggerword pass, they can say it themselves to themselves, but you don't have permission.

>>96920498

No, Tolkien wrote that. "Queer" used to be a generalised term for something being strange and unusual in an inscrutable way that you weren't fully sure about. It wasn't until some time later that it became slang for teh gheyz.

The fox passage itself is a relic of early drafts of LotR when it was more of a children's story akin to the Hobbit than the sprawling epic that it woul grow into.

>>96925476
>sprawling epic
Has "sprawling epic" also become slang "walk a really far distance" instead of grand adventure like I thought it meant?

>>96925063
>Also sentience is the capacity to feel pain or discomfort in an ethical framework
Most animals that aren't tiny insects or microbes have the capacity to feel fear anon, if an animal cannot feel pain then it knows no fear, therefore the majority of animals are ethically sentient.

After all, why would an animal attempt to run away when provoked by a predator if it cannot feel the pain of being eaten alive? Fear is the answer, fucking terror.

>>96925476
Fun fact:The word "Silly" used to mean holy.
>https://talesoftimesforgotten.com/2016/11/28/the-facinating-evolution-of-the-word-silly/

>>96925063
>By that criteria most humans aren't sapient either.
Correct.

>>96924174
Sam wasn't married to her by then. He fancied her, she fancied him, but neither made a move before he left. He gets back, Frodo assumes his bachelor friend will move in, and Sam reveals Rosie and him are going steady now he's back, the very thing he wanted but told Frodo he was nervous about before he left. I actually pity you that you can't see context in anything and have to make everything this shallow gay trash to compensate, while the rest of us lead deep, nuanced lives with true and authentic acceptance and companionship.

>>96925519
Neither. Sprawling epic means a vast and interconnected tale.

>>96924853
>>96926998
C'mon man, be real. The subtext is clear as day.

>>96920482 (OP)
Ask the worldbuilding general.

>>96923844
If it makes you feel better, I regularly call my husband a faggot.

>>96925063
All humans are sentient but many homo sapiens are not humans

>>96927942
>the degenerate still can't grasp anything beyond being covered in jizz and getting prolapses
You have no soul and you disgust me.

>>96920482 (OP)
Yes , they do kind of act like this fox does however they are just as stupid as IRL animals.
All snakes for example can converse in the language of the scaled men.
This never comes up because snakes are fucking retarded and nothing they say is of any value.

It’s just a super easy way to add whimsy to a campaign