Thread 96925721

James bond. Tabletop rpg

Can be done in GURPS

>>96925729
Yeah, sure, I'd rather go through the effort of doing my taxes.
Or coercing slash guilt tripping someone to do my taxes.

>>96925721 (OP)
Spycraft

>>96925721 (OP)
What of it?
>>96925729
>>96925933
Why settle for bootlegs.

>>96925729
GURPS isn't fun tho

>>96925933
1e is broken. 2e is boring.
>>96925721 (OP)
https://www.strangestones.com/00d6-mini-six-meets-80s-spies/

>>96925721 (OP)
depending on the era of Bond, there need to be rules for Respecting Women
especially for the Connery Films

>>96926636
I prefer the retroclone Classified, even though it is set in modern day.

>>96927839

> le name is b-b-ond, j-james b-bond and my pronouns are he/him
> m-may I please enjoy a fine beverage known as m-martini, p-please?
> forgot to ask for shaken, not stirred but too shy to call bartender again.
> refuses to rescue damsel in distrees because le womyn need no men, she's a strong independent female
> can't go to the villains exotic hideout because that would be heckin' colonialism, orientalism, exoticism, fetishization, cultural appropriation, otherization of minorities
> can't carry Walther PPK because of "common sense" gun control
> isn't a womanizer because he can't pull, but says it's about respecting females

>>96925729
Does it have rules for...architecture?

>>96927933
Tell me about it anon. I've been interested in doing modern spy-thriller type games for a long time and I'm kinda curious how its approach differs to Spycraft.

>>96925721 (OP)
Wushu if you aren't autistic
Outgunned if you are

>>96928191
>Yet another zoomer filtered by media from pre-2010
I bet you actually enjoyed the shit-tier Craig era

>>96927839
>Connery-era rules for respecting women:
>1. Don't.

>Moore-era rules for respecting women
>1. Fuck bitches, get intel.
>2. Loli is not for lewd, buy her an ice cream instead.

>Brosnan-era rules for respecting women
>1. Treat them like shit.
>2. If anyone else treats them like shit, get SUPER mad about it.
>3. Madonna is classed as a Bro (see pg. 29) not a woman.

>>96925721 (OP)
It can never work for a franchise revolving around one character with irreplaceable skills

>>96929667
You forgot some

>Lasemby-era rules for respecting women
>1. Fuck, Marry, Kill

>Dalton-era rules for respecting women
>1. Ignore them, you have personal missions to fulfill
>2. Bed them when they really insist, lay like a plank

>Craig-era rules for respecting women
>1. Have multiple personality disorder
>2. Each of your personalities is weird about women, sex and sexuality

>>96928704

Outgunned seems pretty much non-autistic to me tough

>>96928704
The Craig era films were objectively better as actual films. The stunts, the writing, the acting, the production values were all better. You can argue the character is less true to the original Bond if you want, I won't fight you on that.

But most of the older films are just objectively not as good because they generally had really bad acting and writing. The Brosnan era was pretty close to the best, if you can get past the cartoon-tier plots.

>>96929979
>Lasemby
>1. Fuck, Marry, Kill
My fucking sides

>>96932098
Outgunned is autistic in the same way Fate are - if you are a normal, functional adult, you don't need what the game is doing for you.
If you are, however, autismo, this game works like a pair of guiding rails for your mental retardation

You know autism has an actual meaning and not "complex ruleset"... right?

>>96932482
none of the screen versions are really true to fleming's bond in a meaningful way, they're just two different things that have to be taken on their own merits

>>96932482
>The Craig era films were objectively better as actual films.
Sides: orbiting Mars
>The stunts
Very uneven, very depends on the movie. Compare Skyfall and QoS
>the writing
Shit in every single one. It can't be funny, even when it tries (and fails), and it can't be serious, either. Then there is all the trend-chasing of other movies
>the production values were all better
You mean production budget? They are actually comparable, because inflation is a bitch.
You mean sets and props? Sorry, Brosnan wins as long as there is no CGI present (and it was shit back in his era, too, so it's not mere age)
>I won't fight you on that
Good, because that's the most important aspect of those movies. Moore movies were all cheesefest and gonzo, and yet are some of the best of them all, BECAUSE they are cheesefest and gonzo.
> if you can get past the cartoon-tier plots.
Why would I want to get past what's the meat and gravy?
Also:
>Russians trying to melt global economy, end up ruining their own irreplaceable assets
>Media mogul makes a living doing fake news and deliberately inciting polarising politics
>A little skirmish on the global oil market to get rich and also get rid of a pipeline that could hurt your profit
All three of which became very real, very soon.
Can't wait for Korea-Korea Hyperwar

>>96928704


Sorry if I struck a nerve though

>>96932482
people who like the craig bond films want an ugly bond and to feel smart about a plot that isn't smart.

>>96933008

You sound pretty triggered by one simple little game, honestly.

>>96925729
Based. I've always wanted to run a Bond-esque Cold War spy thriller in the worldline of Reich-2. 5-way Cold War for maximum coolness.
>>96926664
Hell yeah it is. I'm sorry you had bad experiences with it, but GURPS fucking rocks.

>>96933636
>>96933656
Nigga, you are baiting too hard by trying to play both sides

>>96925721 (OP)

Always did want a co-op boardgame where each player is a 00 agent trying to ruin some supervillains overly complex rube-goldberg plan for world domination.
I know there's one where you play a villain working for SPECTRE... but critically they leave some of the best villains out of that, include others who didn't work for SPECTRE like Drax and it sold like shit.

>>96933948
Guess it could work as a Pandemic re-flavor, where players represent super agents foiling plots of various villain groups around the globe.

Exists. From the 80s so it's peak.

>>96932482
Nobody cares about the zoomer's "classic bond movies" and the next movie will be a reboot about a young James Bond

>>96933694
>GURPS fucking rocks.
You have a very special, and pretentious, brand of autism. Your experiences are your own.

>>96929685
Not true.
Bond is the whole party in one man. Fights like the fighter, schmoozed like the faceman, drives like the wheelman, etc. He's an all-class gestalt.
A good Bond game would have the party be an MI6 agent team who _in aggregate_ can take on a 00's assignment but need to work together. But keep all the great world building and genre conventions.

>>96935199
Ocean's 11?

>>96929685
Easy solution
Bond is the antagonist and the party is trying to destroy the world.

>>96935222
Basically. Or what Mission Impossible was supposed to be before Tom Cruise got to it.

>>96934341
>You have a very special, and pretentious, brand of autism
I really don't. I routinely get intimidated by its crunch. I'm more of a storyshitter, if anything. GURPS is awesome because it can be as simple as I want it and it has great support to run whatever genre of game I want. So I've run d&d modules in it, CoC modules, or my own stuff, and it plays really, really smoothly. In my experience, it hasn't truly earned its reputation for difficulty and autism.

>>96935550
You are not a storyshitter because that is not a word with any real meaning. You have a narrative in your game. That's a good thing. Be proud.

>>96934160

That already exists as Pandemic Legacy Season 0. Where the disease is communism, and you're the cure.
The only problem there was that it didn't embrace the silliness ENOUGH for Bond.
Like, they should have hidden a second map in the false bottom of the box which a secret moonbase on it.

>>96934313

My headcanon is that's who we're playing as in the upcoming game the Hitman devs are doing.

>>96935537

The first film does a pretty good job of keeping to the core tenets of the show.

>>96928691
A clone of the original Victory Games Bond RPG, but of course copyright neutral, with modern tech level and with some tweaks and guidelines for adjusting the tone and danger between gritty and realistic espionage and agent movie heroics. It has rules for all the spylike stuff, car chases and seduction included. It has a reputation system that brings nice spice to the game, where it is usually in player's best interests to keep it low.
As for how it plays, skills have base chance which is multiplied with difficulty rating of the roll to get the success chance, and skill checks are done with d100.

>>96938947
True. TC didn't ruin them until 4 and on. 2 is basically a foreign language film and should be treated as its own thing. 3 is great on paper but just boring and never explains why its villain is so great and scary. He's just a fat bored bureaucrat.

>>96939183

2 is literally a John Woo film and nothing more, but that is very much enough. Oh sure it's no Face/Off, but that's not a film, that competetive eating competition between heavyweight professionals John Travolta and Nicholas Cage to see who can chew the most scenery at the height of their powers.

>>96925721 (OP)
Dragons.
Dungeons and Dragons.

>>96939229
>a waiter by a luxuriously hotel's swimming pool brings a phone on a silver platter to Bond
>"for you, sir"
>Bond picks it up
>"ah, Qthulhu"

>>96928191
Pretty much or is a black trans muslim if it can fight and not just be saved by a woman, gay, etc who saves the day and their white beta ally who is fine being cucked and friend zoned.

>>96940224

Empowered minority and White guys who's the comic relief sidekick, typically.

Don't give any money to your enemies.

>>96934218
>No, I didn't open the book I posted, how could you tell
Because you judge it by the cover, retard

>>96939183
But isn't 4 the one that's the most team-centric of them all?
4th is Ghost Protocol, right? So compared with 3 (good teamwork) and especially 2 (TC and John Woo kissing each other asses), it's the most team-based of them all, and everyone contributes, while action bits are on Cruise

>>96939240

You know, I can't actually recall anyone trying to combine Bond with Mythos before? The closest we get is the pulp action stuff in Achtung! Cthulhu.

There's a whole run of Sherlock Holmes Vs the Mythos, I know for a fact. But not so much Bond. I wonder if Fleming was even aware of Lovecraft and his circles works?

>>96940276
>Empowered minority and White guys who's the comic relief sidekick, typically.
Name the movie, because normally it's stronk white woman and beta white male.

>>96928191
>The name's Bond. James Bond. It's just a codename, which is why I'm black now.
>I'll have a pumpkin spice mocha frappuccino latte with a picture of my open mouthed face in the foam
>Silk, not milk.

>>96934341
>pretentious
Get a dictionary, retard. The only one being pretentious here is you.

>>96940482
>What is The Laundry Files
>What are Delta Green supplements
I reckon you joined this hobby in what? Past 5 years?
How off the mark am I?

>>96940506
Nta, but Ghost Protocol?
>Black lady kicking ass
>Englishman comic relief
>American comic relief
>Action-comedy hero

>>96940326
TC does everything, team suck him off or exposit.

>>96944010
That's the next one. The one with Cavill and stupid mustache

>>96925721 (OP)
Depends on the kind of Bond shenanigans you're looking for:

>Fuck bitches, get money
FATAL
>Realistic skulduggery, investigations and intel-gathering while avoiding being seen and getting into shootouts.
Call of Cthulhu
>Super Spy with cool gadgets and vehicles
G.I. Joe.

>>96925933
This. The best game you're going to find that uses a familiar rules set up so people won't whine about learning a whole new game.

>>96925721 (OP)
I think an implementation of Gumshoe would probably work really well--Night's Black Agents comes to mind as a good candidate, simply ignoring all the mechanics for vampires and using just the espionage stuff.

>>96933948
Legendary: A James Bond Deck Building Game is actually pretty good for that. You can mix villain decks and movie decks with each other for added replay value.

This, unironically

>>96944616
They do all run together, don't they?
>>96945206
Spycraft is mechanically broken.
>>96945421
Good recommendation.

>>96933065
>roger moore movies were good
>decrepit old man is somehow an action star even though he can't do action scenes because his knees won't handle it
lmao okay, I win, gg no re

>>96933656
... you watch bond films because you want bond to be attractive?
I have bad news for you anon