Thread 96939608

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>>96757245

>Thread Question:
Name your historical rulesets green flags.

>Community Summary of Wargames:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11JoUpGIRDp5DZdgJ24rijKHgyY-qvvR5QnVtHIp57Tw/edit?usp=sharing

>List of Historical Tactical, Strategic, and Military Drill treatises:
http://pastebin.com/BfMeGd6R

>ZunTsu Gameboxes:
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/yaokao3h1o4og/ZunTsu_GameBoxes

>/hwg/ Steam Group:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/tghwg/

>Naval wargaming stuff:
https://pastebin.com/LcD16k7s

>Games, Ospreys & References folders:
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/lu95l5mgg06d5/Ancient
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/81ck8x600cas4/Medieval
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/w6m41ma3co51e/Horse_and_Musket
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/vh1uqv8gipzo1/Napoleonic
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/bbpscr0dam7iy/ACW
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/bvdtt01gh105d/Victorian
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/b35x147vmc6sg/World_War_One
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/z8a13ampzzs88/World_War_Two
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/z8i8t83bysdwz/Vietnam_War
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/7n3mcn9hlgl1t/Modern
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/gdvadj7t6l5w6/Aero_Wargaming
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/ittx73oyyz7t1/Naval_Wargaming
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/6jrcg496e7vnb/Avalon%20Hill
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/pq6ckzqo3g6e6/Field_Of_Glory
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/r2mff8tnl8bjy/GDW
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/whmbo8ii2evqh//SPI
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/ws6yi58d2oacc/Strategy_%26_Tactics_Magazine
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/s1am77aldi1as/Wargames
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/j962ws6h50bqj/Victory_Games

>New Trove Link
https://mega.nz/folder/19kUXC6T#U31scUNwyuVI8cHvX6GIgQ

>Rick Roll Trove
https://mega.nz/folder/78pF0CYI#Jc2IO8IQVwRDP1Chwr_iGA

>Advanced Squad Leader
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/d9x0dbxrpjg48/Advanced_Squad_Leader
>AK-47 Republic
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/6v39gcjode5ln/Insanely_Based_AK-47_Republic_Folder
>Battleground WWII
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/cb83cg7ays4l1/Battleground_WWII
>Battlegroup
https://mega.nz/#F!SolyxarJ!GUg6zWBStfznr6BvYedghQ
>Black Powder
http://www.mediafire.com/file/f8a58xjysyweaz8/Black+Powder+Rulebook.pdf
>Bolt Action
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/n7jmdnlv1n0ju/Bolt_Action
>By Fire And Sword
https://mega.co.nz/#!jxgCWTYD!FCp52DAqIUc-EM-TsRsWv7fB92nJ3kkzKsNcD_urI5Q
>Flames of War
https://mega.nz/folder/lc1SRajQ#QTDXthNFG-sDoYe08bhV9A
>Fleet Series
https://mega.nz/#F!i1N3xZxL!C6fQ3Z8o2U0gtk5kdXuVcQ
>GMT
https://mega.nz/#F!D1dHQZCJ!V9pYq0CUc4iCrNiOcBOBtg
>Hail Caesar
https://mega.nz/#F!XsVD0KgT!twB1NWiFE3aKXK_O1EZ4pA
>Impetus
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/28i9gevqws518/Impetus
>Modelling & painting guides
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/7b5027l7oaz05/Modelling_%26_Painting_Guides
>The Perfect Captain
http://perfectcaptain.50megs.com/captain.html
>Phoenix Command RPG
https://mega.co.nz/#F!b5tgXRwa!mzelRNrKPjiT8gP7VrS-Jw
>Saga
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/alj31go19tmpm/SAGA
>Schizoid content
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/v0fhor14frxsf/Billhooks
>Twilight 2000/2013 RPG
https://mega.co.nz/#F!C9sQhbwb!NVnD4jvUn5inOrPJIAkBhA
>Wargaming Compendium
http://www.mediafire.com/download/cghxf3475qy46aq/Wargaming+Compendium.pdf

Incorrect previous thread in the OP, my bad.
>>96836637

>>96939617
Bake a new one and add a One This Day in History post.

Reading through the Chain of Command rules at work because you guys recommended it as an alternative to Bolt Action, and also because work is really boring today.

Why is this general getting spammed with ugly amerindians and jeets recently?
What does the OP pic have to do with WARGAMING?

>>96940700
My bad about the fantasy pic btw, I clicked a random pic and from the thumbnail it looked historical

>>96939608 (OP)
I've been looking around the troves but I guess we don't have a scan of the victory games Vietnam 1965-1975, nor the GMT edition. Any kind anon to share the full game or at least a high res of the map of either edition?

After a read through of Chain Of Command: It seems fun, the increased level of detail is nice. My main worry is the support lists mechanic might put off fellow players who may not even get to use their brand new Stuart or whatever.

>>96940700
>What does the OP pic have to do with WARGAMING?
Hello newfriend, let me explain. /hwg/ often has a picture related to a historical event that took place the same day as the new thread was created. Judging by the date and filename, OP went with Cortés arrival to Tenochtitlan.

>>96941464
Follow up questions: Is Chain of Command 2E a significant improvement over 1E? And are there Mid War lists anywhere? I could use something for 1942/43 North Africa.

Serving up beehive rounds

Air cavs in a bad spot

>>96939608 (OP)
Any game that has mechanics that illustrate this?

Often times in medieval and early modern warfare, the more armored and richer members of a unit would be in the front, and the less armored and poorer members would be in the back, so you can present a more heavy front while still bulking out the mass of a formation.

I think billhooks might have done something like that? but I think it was with archers and polearms, not sure about more and less armored infantry.

it would be a neat way to get a cheaper overall unit that initially has the same fighting power as a full heavy armor unit, but becomes a light armor unit after sustaining casualties or something.

>>96942584
This looks sick, anon

They somehow beat back 2 units of north Vietnamese in melee

The skyraiders and cobras are coming in to save their bacon

How did Romans march 20 miles a day with this god awful heavy ass stick on their shoulder with tons of tools and gear jangling on it? Why didn't they just use backpacks ? I feel like carrying 30lbs lop sides on one shoulder would fuck up my back. Now to mention the pressure from the weighted stick pressing down on your shoulder

>>96943852
And this is why the Legion rejected you and you'll be a plebian forever

>>96943780
Great looking game! what rules are you using?

15mm scale?

Mike Durant, we will not leave you behind

>>96944021
It's flames of war Nam. Not my favorite rule set but there aren't many battalion level Vietnam games that handle lots of vehicles well.

>side ways

Gay

>>96943852
Hard times make hard men, anon.

>>96943852
You just do.

>>96943852
Is it possible we just have no idea how they carried their equipment? or is it accepted as fact they carried everything on a stick over one shoulder?

Are there any fun black powder era skirmish games? I want to paint a handful of dudes, 10-15 at most, engaged in minor encounters like pillaging, foraging, fighting for the control over farms etc.

>>96946254
Yes, a Song of Drum and Shakos and for slightly earlier there is En Garde.
You posted FrancoPrussian war pic, and I don't know anything that explicitly covers that era for skirmish, but the two I posted should work with a little bit of imagination.
There frankly isn't many explicit options for the Franco/Prussian war in any size battle, for large battles I've seen people use Valour and Fortitude or Men Who Would be Kings, but the FP War is honestly not wargames very much

Painting 15mm is so fucking unpleasant holy shit, I'm never leaving 28mm again. It's too small to easily paint, but big enough that you notice mistakes unlike 6/10mm

>>96947569
What mistakes?

>>96939608 (OP)
Question:
What are the standard battle formations of the middle ages? I feel like I have a clearer Idea of the ancient world and the early modern world.

Phalanxes in the front and skirmishers ar the sides for the greeks, the Hastati then principes then triari for republican romans etc.

>>96943852
I would think a stick might actually be better for your back since you can switch positions/leverage points throughout the day istead of a heavy load being on one specific position all day.

>>96950039
How to tell us you have never carried a heavy load in your entire life

>>96950643
its cuz i make ur mom carry all my heavy loads on her face

>>96939613
>https://www.mediafire.com/file/4jrndl7hoy6a2ft

Can I get this added to the Fow/Team Yankee folder?

Team Yankee - Nato Forces

Anyone play Blitzkrieg Commander 4 and have any thoughts on it?

>>96946207
They had carts

>>96951199
Added to Rick Roll Trove

Vichy France actually held off the Americans at Oran long enough for support from Germany to arrive. The Americans are launching an attack anyway, but as they're outnumbered in armor, it's not likely to be a cakewalk.

>>96952391
Meanwhile, the British have taken a leaf out of Rommel's book and are attempting a desert hook to avoid and surround Tobruk by launching a flanking attack on Bir Hacheim, but the Italians of all people are responding with a counterattack out of Tobruk into Mersa Matruh, hoping to isolate the 8th Army from Cairo, and the British have actually left themselves open to air attack.

anyone know where i can find historical Mini figures for TTS ? im trying to play Lion Rampant with a friend but i cant find anything to adequately represent historical armies of 1300 AD

>>96941464
>My main worry is the support lists mechanic might put off fellow players who may not even get to use their brand new Stuart or whatever.
You can always just have a set support point limit rather than rolling for it. If someone wants a Stuart then set the point total to a little above the cost of a Stuart
>>96942157
2e is an objective improvement in my opinion. Many units are better balanced, many rules care better defined and there are a lot more player options with the Chain of Command point system.
The only existing rules for North Africa are the 1941 ones in this larger pdf
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1FkPlKv5rHVZJs-C7JR8UE5QV4Ovzq-5c/view?usp=sharing
However if you want to pull in units from 1942-1943 then you can use this database of all of them
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iVO3_AyHeoy87eZQfrl0QN-ZL1e7uvsQSjndzCBokuE/edit?gid=0#gid=0

The info is definitely spread out, I would recommend making some sort of document that centralizes the relevant force lists for your theater. Keep in mind that 2e changed the points costs on some units, if that's something that bothers you it would help to cross reference between the 2e book and the provided 1e force lists.

You could go full autism like I did and do a complete rebalance of all of the units in your era (1941 Eastern Front for me) but that's a lengthy project. The changes are mostly minor and not worth the full effort unless that sort of thing interests you.

>>96954614
Thanks for that info. I didn't see 2E in the trove but will check again or just shell out a few bucks to buy it.

>>96954693
It's in the rick roll trove, the book with the orange background cover

Has anyone played ADLG and do you think it's a good game? There is a local tournament and I'm wondering if it's worth learning or not

>>96955131
The only purpose of ADLG is to be broad enough to have a big tournament going so if you are lucky to have one then go for it.

>>96947569
I think those look pretty dang nice anon.

>>96953729
Isn't barons war stuff suited for up until 1350-ish?

>>96955131
>https://www.mediafire.com/folder/lu95l5mgg06d5/Ancient
It's a decent tourny game, I would play if there was a local scene. I don;t really rate it as a historical simulation, but it's decent. Obligatory: https://madaxeman.com/

>>96956816
Nah, 1270/80s AD at the latest, by 1350 you have proper plate armour.

>>96946254
>>96946865
https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/176992/bloody-big-battles

Also Sharpe Practice.

Adopting a Napeolonic rules set for FPW probably means eschewing formation and making the ranged weaponry more lethal. I can't believe i'm even bothering to reply but posting "x doesn't exist" after no cursory search gets me every fucking time, amazed to have been told I'm a problem poster only to step back for a good month and watch you tearshreds off of one another.

Does anyone have the V3 Armies of the soviet union for bolt action, i have been looking everywhere for the past 2 weeks and have kept coming up empty handed

My first foray into painting WW2 minis. Excuse the screwed up faces, consider it teething pains w/ painting smaller scale miniatures.
General thoughts before I start the next batch? Are colours correct, etc. The back right guy was the first model painted and the scheme was WAY off.

those germans look sick mate

>>96954881
Thanks anon, I grabbed it. We're gonna try it out later this week