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>Archive:
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Last thread: >>11437738

>>11467305 (OP)
>Anonymous
I always fuck something up when I try to make a thread on my phone

>>11467308
Bionicle always seems to be nothing but fuck ups

>>11467308
Anonymous only, fuck off tripfags

>>11467333
I'm talking about accidentally pasting anonymous into the thread subject, dummy

>>11467336
Yeah, I was implying that meant the thread was for anonymous /biog/ posters only.

>>11467379
I see

>>11467305 (OP)
What's up with Myths And Legacy? They haven't had an update in half a year or so

>>11467663
>G1 Boba Fetta
Damn, this is a sick build.
Lost art to making simple G1-style builds like this I feel, though that Slizer anon was doing good work on that front.
>>11467379
Need more chill Bionicle art like this. Beautiful stuff

>>11467379
What's the reason for all the ice guys having a red flag on them? Even in the Matoro and Kopaka revamps. I feel like there's something obvious I'm missing.

>>11468028
For marking a spot, I would assume. It's easier to see a red flag in the snowy mountains. It makes you more visible as well.

>>11468028
MNOG reference. Matoro left red flags behind when venturing in the snow so he wouldn't get lost.

Last year I did a deep dive on Russian websites trying to find a specific bootleg. Posting the different stuff I found.

>>11468346

>>11468349

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>>11468354
Now some memes

>>11468357

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>>11468354
>silver metru shoulders
>brown Kiril
Hot.

>>11468028
it looks cool
and it makes it easier to spot a white guy in a totally white environment

>>11468351
oh hey, it's Fire Drake

>can't bring myself to throw away broken pieces
>know that shit is near impossible to repair
>a lot of is is dirt cheap sockets and shit, even technic spacers

>>11469211
Socket pieces can at least still be useful in a decorative fashion (or that always questionably legal way where you put an axle through the sides of the socket). Maybe not the plain black ones, but if you have purple/teal/tan/yellow ones I would definitely hold on to those.
Unless they're 2008 angleshit, of course, in which case they belong in the faggot quarantine bin regardless of whether they've cracked (YET).

>>11469511
>2008 angleshit
It's really a shame that there was never either an earlier classic Slizer or later CCBS/ribbed version of that one 7L double socket with the three perpendicular holes on the side. With 2008 sets you can mostly replace the shit regular and double sockets with classic ones of the same or an acceptable alternate colour, but the 2009 Glatorian sets use that piece breddy heavily so no joy.
Then again, they never made any non-angled av-matoran limb pieces or av-matoran/glatorian heads with a decent joint either, so I guess any small set from 2008-2010 is a complete write-off.

>>11468614
Do chink knockoffs ever get made anymore?

>>11468367
>I'm sorry Tahu, the cancer has become inoperable.

Oh wow, I was checking my messages on Roblox (Yes, that game) and found out that they deleted a Bionicle hat that I made and uploaded in the game more than a decade ago, in like 2012, due to copyright infringement, in fact I just found out that they deleted everything Bionicle related off the entire site, and this happened around May of this year, when Masks of Power was cancelled.

Obviously I didn't give a shit about the hat, but it's such an oddly specific thing for Lego to do, I wonder what's gotten into them lmao.

>>11471052
the rumor is that lego's hired a legal team in the jewnited burgerland states to do work for them. It stands to reason that these burgers want to make a good impression by DMCAing as much random shit as they can. Note that the 1080p movie uploads are gone off of youtube too.
>Look! Here's 1000 instances where we protected your beloved IP! Now no one is happy!
Unironically I think the only reason ((certain)) online resources haven't been taken down is because the boomer retards lego hired are probably as tech savvy as your grandma. They're just removing as much shit as they can because it's now their job.

what if Gali Nuva, wearing her adaptive armor, went to a BDSM convention? Would the armor transform into BDSM gear?

Can someone seed the leak torrent?

The stupid Proton Drive folder will not fucking download. It always quits about 6gb in. And this retarded website won't let me use a proper download manager either. Any advice?

Dream came true.

What next, Tahu roasts your phone?
>Samsung Galaxy Note 7 moment

https:/youtube.com/shorts/V-U1nmqzBlk?si=14ZFTEHlT3w6N_86

Whoops, missed a '/'
https://youtube.com/shorts/V-U1nmqzBlk?si=jJp33dWpBWYwdeHM

>>11472356
>Hewkii's foot
>c-tier

>>11472393
Hyeeewkii looks like shit and I'm not going to pretend otherwise.
Although I do actually think the other Inika foot is uglier.

>>11467305 (OP)
Wow this community sure is in shambles and only coasts by when a tranny crashes out on X, huh?

would he be into bionicle? he'd definetely be into galidor

>>11472209
where's gali

>>11472917
Matoro looks so wrong with the neck being that long.

>>11473016
That bothers you, but Nuju's painfully visibly cracked neck connector (or the piece used in place of it rather) doesn't?
Also, I was gonna make a remark about Matoro's non-Tohunga head, but they actually depicted them all with Toa/Turaga-style heads in MNOG anyway, so no biggie.

>>11472917
Reminder that Matoro's big job before becoming a Toa was translating his Turaga's retarded bird noises that he exclusively communicated through because he was literally too much of a misanthrope to speak normally to anyone.

>>11473023
Not really, probably because I am used to mine having cracks like that. A few of my turaga have cracks on the technic connector they use for necks, a bunch of the bushings on my mata/nuva are cracked too.
I'll probably replace them when I have a bigger reason to make a bricklink order since I don't have any spare orange or lime connectors.

So I'm just fucked if I want the Magnaleak files then, huh? Nobody is seeding and the direct download drive is horse shit. Is there any other alternative?

>>11472917
Unfortunately not present in the store I found these at, but I at least own her elsewhere. I've got a Gali Nuva canister here, too, though she's packed away at the moment.
I was only able to look at Lewa in the store, but I'm happy to report they're all complete barring a couple small parts. There were some extras thrown in as well, though unfortunately not quite enough to scrounge together a full Turaga to my eye. They even all still have the instructions and mini posters, albeit a little beat-up. Very cool to find, especially for what I paid.

To Pinkie: I hope you're doing alright.

>>11473219
Looks like you can do a full Nuju minus the mask.

>>11473073
Yeah, those pieces crack like shit. I just usually try to replace them.

post cool matoran

>>11473391
>picunrel

>>11473413
What's a good matoran then

>>11473448
2003 design as a base, thats what

>>11473448
Not that. Look at the fucking elbows and shins and think about how little friction is holding that abortion together (I can't make out the exact body structure at that level of image detail, but I'd rather not even think about if). Shit like this is why people have such a knee-jerk reaction when they see small system elements in a moc.
My rule of thumb is, if it couldn't stand up to a ten-year-old playing with it for 5 minutes without falling apart, it's fucking shit. And I don't think that's an unreasonable bar to set.

Haven't had bioncle since my early teens but have been wanting to collect some again as I have a lot of nostalgia for the series. Initially I was set on the Toa Nuva as they were the line I remember the most but lately the original Tos have really grown on me. If you had to pick only one between the two which would you suggest?

>>11473541
OG, absolutely. The Nuva get a bit samey with the armour pieces. They were of course cool as hell at the time, but I think it's fair to say they don't hold up as well.

dual wielding kopaka

>>11473541
Do you have nostalgia for the first movie and the early 2000s fetish for EXTREME sports and that era of Lego? Get the nuva then.
If you just need the most definitive Bionicle thing then get the mata.

>>11473541
Toa mata are better and more colorful, but if you have more nostalgia for the nuva then get them instead, lets face it, you'll end up buying both at some point. we've all been thre

>>11473541
Both are based. Nuva have more play value with their transforming toa tools. Some hate their oversized masks but this merely makes them look more at home while wearing the Exo-Toa (GOAT vehicle set). Originals are more iconic however.

>>11473023
Nuju's an old man, you have to expect him to have some cracked parts.

>>11473588
>>11473612
>>11473617
>>11473635
Thanks anons, going with the Mata. I think the silver armor looks nice on Onua and Kopaka's black and white but not the other four, might grab just Onua at some point down the line. What's a good price for a set of all six? So far it looks like they go for $150 on average, that sound fair for them or should I look out for better deals?

>>11473667
Jesus Christ, no. Go for bricklink and take your time getting them. At 150 you're paying 25 per toa. Gali can be grabbed for just 12 bucks in USA from bricklink.
Take your time, part out the stuff you want, be a fag AFOL and enjoy life.

>>11473667
>>11473750
100% agree 150$ is way too much for a full set of Toa Mata. Even if you bought each one individually from a separate Bricklink store, including the shipping, it shouldn't come to nearly that much. Unless you want all the canisters and instructions anyway. You could probably find two, three at most, stores and get get all six for half that.

>>11473667
https://store.bricklink.com/createat8#/shop
here's a store I've ordered from before that has 3 of the toa, you can even get them with the canisters if you spring for an extra buck

>>11473750
>>11473846
Thanks, I was think they would average $15 or so. A lot of ebay auctions have them in the $20 range or complete sets for about $140-150. I know covid really made prices on collectables shoot up but $20 for a standard set sold everywhere seemed much.
>>11473862
I've only ever bought off bricklink once from a US seller, would shipping to the US not cost a fuck ton?

>>11473992
I had that store ship to me in the US and I don't recall the shipping being too bad, but I can't find the order to confirm. as with any seller you can always ask for a quote

>>11473992
Short answer, yes. Try to find a US seller, because you will get raped on s/h ordering from europe. $40 on a $100 order is not an uncommon situation to find yourself in.

>>11474000
Seconding this anon. The only order I did from Europe to the US was a store selling 4 brown metru-era double sockets from a single store in the Czech Republic.

>>11474000
>>11474111
>sequential trips
Impressive.
>>11473510
This, it's not a Bionicle MOC, it's a sculpture with modular elements using some Bionicle parts. It looks like things would start dropping off if you just picked it up the way you normally would a Bionicle figure.

It bothers me that there are Earth and Stone seperately in the Bionicle universe. I understand the need for 6 differently coloured ones, but why couldn't the black sets be Shadow element? Stone can remain or be renamed to Earth. You can make an argument for Water and Ice being unnecessarily distinct but that bothers me less for some reason.

>>11475153
what about fire and air being distinct elements?

>>11475153
Think of them as ground type and rock type, in pokemon terms. While Earth Toa would use Earthquake, Stone Toa would use Stone Edge. I get what you mean though, but Shadow doesn't really work for a 'regular' toa.

>>11475153
Yeah bro, we should only have 5 elements.
Wait, Ice is just less heat, so we only need Fire, Air, Water, and Stone.
No, wait, that's too specific, we should just have Plasma, Gas, Liquid, and Solid.
No, that's not heckin' scientific enough, what we really need is just a Toa of Electromagnetism, Toa of Gravity, Toa of Weak Nuclear Force, and Toa of Strong Nuclear Force.
...
Believe me, you're far from the first person to make this particularly reddit observation, and it only gets more banal every time. But since I'm such a swell fella, I'll explain it once more: there are massive thematic and flavour differences between Earth (underground mole people miners) and Stone (desert-dwelling athletic brazilians) characters. And there is no way in hell Shadow would ever be a non-evil element, and other snowflake elements are cringe and gay.

>>11475169
Suddenly i'm kind of okay with it now. I guess my idea was that Shadow would remain an unnatural and evil element though.
>>11475180
I may have made a surface level comment, but the irony of you implying its reddit tier is ironic because you then replied with the most reddit coded shit ever, even with unnecessary reddit spacing.
>But since I'm such a swell fella, I'll explain it once more
Please kill yourself, kindly.

>>11475213
>coded
Yeah, definitely nothing reddit about you, certainly not your entire tone. That being said, we could go in circles calling each other redditors all night, so good night.
And for gods' sakes use the officially approved /biog/ 'jaks, that's what they're there for.

>>11475228
I'm not certain why I pluralized god's sake. I'm not a paganigger, I swear.

>>11475180
Overreact much?
>>11475213
I don't think you did yourself any favors with that reply though

Hail Denmark!

>>11475161
>No Lewa, glass is not an instrument.
>No Lewa, farts are not an instrument either.

>>11475362
Ah goddammit, I meant element, not instrument. Fuck me

>>11475180
>that one time a toa of fire (i think it was lhikan) took away all the heat and froze something

>>11475465
It was Vakama.

https://youtu.be/_vjCmJM3wwY

>>11475793

>>11472209
Crazy, would never expect to find bonkles in Japan

>>11475180
>and other snowflake elements are cringe and gay.
I personally think lightning and plantlife are cool, agree most the other extra elements are shite though.

>>11476378
Thank you for calling it Plantlife instead of that "tHe GrEeN" faggotronics that I'm pretty sure they ripped off from Swamp Thing.

I'm more pissed that rock stopped being represented by brown really, looked silly as yellow/orange.

>>11476496
I could've lived with real yellow, but skeetorange is a shit-tier trash colour regardless of circumstance.
And of course regular orange is just fucking retarded when it was the designated secondary colour for fire since forever.

>>11476442
I flip flop between Plantlife and a more generic "Nature" myself. "The Green" is too specific to DC's cosmology for it to feel right just inserting it into Bionicle.

Though now that I think of it, Bionicle IS canon to DC... there's a certain level of kino to it....

>>11476237
These were the first I've seen in a store (lived here a year), but they're pretty common online, especially the earlier waves. It seems like it was pretty popular. You find the strangest things here, though. A few feet away from where I found the Bionicles, there were a bunch of sealed 2001 Planet of the Apes figures.

>>11476530
Oh yeah, I forgot about that one easter egg in The Spectre (Hal).

>>11476442
Greg has a catwoman poster in his house IIRC
He definitely derived from comics he's read since Pohatu even does the whole vibrating molecules thing the Flashes use to phase through objects

>>11476537
>Spectre
Thank you for getting it right
Too many sites said it was from GL Rebirth without properly checking

>>11476601
I think Gali actually did it first and Pohatu just kind of picked it up when they got too lazy to even pretend to remember that all the Nuva except Tahu had a full set of Kanohi Nuva and only Pohatu was allowed to use a Kakama Nuva.

>>11473541
Easily the Mata
>>11473131
Not that I'm aware of. I downloaded them back when people were seeding. Hope you're able to access them eventually though

>>11476728
stop posting this ugly nigger

>>11475153
with the exception of takanuva and lewa these are all upgrades from the set designs. give them back their O mouths and they're perfect

>>11475153
>>11475362
The primary elements make more sense when you think of them as "Island biomes first, powers second"

>>11475213
Shadow has lore importance enough they can't tack it on too many characters

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noHG6iWL_Dw

what compels someone to make bionicles unposable greebly statues?

>>11477183
The desire to build
And to be fair if poseability is the most desirable metric those hands are a lot more poseable than official hand designs

>>11477183
That is just NASTY.
Especially the wrists, looks like a ball piece just shoved into picrel.
Anyway, it's just what's popular with normgroids because they don't really know or remember what real Bionicleses are supposed to look like. Also, having a critical opinion is illegal on r*ddit, so when you can't call someone out for their bullshit the meta favours greebly monstrosities.

>>11477240
>>11477183
I've seen that build technique a couple times and decided to try it out with my own pieces, and it really is as horrible as it looks. Puts way too much stress on them and isn't really even that posable.

>>11477352
Yeah, no, you shouldn't be putting that much stress on ANY connectors, period. They *will* break or be deformed into uselessness. This doesn't matter so much to pieces of shit like the guy who made >>11477183 because they just netlist a fresh and complete list of pieces off of Bricklink for every "moc", but some of us normal human beings actually build with our own pieces and don't like turning potentially out of production pieces into garbage on an industrial scale.

>>11476820
Nah, hau nuva is cool as hell without changes. This one looks circumcised.

>>11477362
You gotta admit the donut steel model of the movie version of the Cowcow Nuva is infinitely better, though.
I'd even give points to the Kakama Nuva and Pakari Nuva for not looking hydrocephalic and like a fat old mongolian man with curly hair respectively.

>>11477365
As it's own unique mask certainly. It is a good design, but I wouldn't want to loose the kaukau nuva we have, I'm just too used to it.

I feel like the kakama should have the blades more swept upwards like the original, and maybe something to make the "facial hair" more angular. It just seems too smooth, and not in a sleek speedy way. I completely agree with you about the top of the pakari looking better, but the shape of the lower part makes it look like the voice of Carl Weezer is going to start talking about lamas from it.

>>11477361
Just looking at it I didn't think it would deform so much, but I was worried that the part was gonna break just from testing it out. I think a lot of "illegal" techniques are pretty cool and clever, but if it just ruins the piece then it's retarded.

>>11476378
Iron and sonics are good as a single character element too.

>>11477362
I think it looks bretty gud especially with the original mouth

>>11477379
Well when I say or I mean it depends on the plastic. Softer plastic deforms, more rigid brittle plastic cracks.

>>11477387
Hau nuva is unique among the nuva masks since the normal hau is still under the protodermis melted over the top of it.

This redesign ignores that.

Speaking of those movie style masks, I tweaked an old Pohatu Nuva revamp of mine for increased pose-ability. I am always welcoming criticism as long as it isn't just "KYS NIGGA" but u guys are meani bobeenis

God i'm retarded, forgot to crop

>>11477587
Idk, it's not so bad. Weird as it sounds I prefer those donut steel 3d-printed hands/fingers to fucking unoriginal shitass exo-force fingers. And compared to some of the shit I see, mixing CCBS and Bionicle is far from the greatest sin possible.

>>11477587
>>11477590
>>11477591
Also (and/or however), why put the roborider head piece on the back and the CCBS plate on the front? I would think you'd want it the other way around.
Unless it just plain doesn't look right in practice, which is perfectly understandable.

>>11477587
>>11477590
>>11477591
What are you using for the heart-light?

>>11477593
Exo-fingers are classic you plebian.

>>11477595
Yeah, I covered that with unoriginal.

>>11477597
Alright as long as we agree your only complaint is they're not hipster enough.

>>11477593
I figured the roborider head looked better as a thigh muscle region. Swapping it around makes them look a bit odd I think, good idea though.

>>11477595
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=22484#T=C
towball in neon orange

>>11477604
a chunky badonkadonk right there

>>11477603
Quite the opposite, they're too hipster, insofar as they're a conspicuous deliberate effort to reject the (actually) classic option (literally just bare socket piece hands).

>>11477604
>towball in neon orange
Had no idea such a thing existed, neat.

>>11477608
Ah, but that's the most "unoriginal" option of all, making it the worst in your belief system. Once again bringing us back to the inescapable fact that you're mad that a commonly-accepted MOCing element is commonly accepted.

>>11477609
>>11477608
maybe ya'll niggas should post some mocs, just an idea

>>11477609
>heh I bet you use head pieces too instead of building them out of bricks gotcha
There's absolutely no reason for you to be this seethingly angry about somebody having better taste than you.

>>11477611
I'll level with you, I haven't really built anything recently. Still mulling over a possible Roboriders rebuild, but I've run into some walls conceptually.

>>11477615
Beautiful, I love the ski's and the white Pakari. I would definitely swap over to pure technic like this were they available in my country for reasonable prices. May I in my uneducated opinion suggest a competition launcher? Maybe fired from the back somehow?

>>11477622
Ah, they call them blunt shooters here, I believe. I used them for my wave 2 baddies.

>>11477183
more gore from OP

>>11475153
my headcanon was always that materials in the bionicle setting were made up of certain proportions of elemental elemental particles instead of atoms and such. Call em elementons or something. So fire would be nearly 100% fire elementons, stones would be mostly stone elementons, something like glass would be mostly sand elementons mixed with fire elementons, plants would have different elementons than animals hence them being susceptible to different abilities, different types of materials (like copper vs iron or slate vs shale or pack ice vs icicles) having different admixtures of various other elementons. It kinda makes sense in a way.

>>11477630
This one isn't as offensive tbdesu. I mean, yes, still many awful elements, but it doesn't have that "ultra-smooth Bionicle porn drawing" design. And no wrist gore.

>>11477634
The theory isn't entirely incompatible with what's "canon", given that Mata Nui and everything inside him is made of 100% protodermis in various forms. And that energized protodermis (which I assume the inert form was derived from to build the whole thing in the first place) is basically a god liquid. And that the combination of any 6 elemental powers creates semi-impenetrable crystalline protodermis.

>>11477183
But enough about pre-metru toa.

>>11477609
>Had no idea such a thing existed, neat.
I think it was used as a projectile piece for Nexo Knights.
>>11477587
>>11477590
>>11477591
>>11477604
>>11477622
Fuck me, this is a gorgeous little build.
I've got a long weekend, I really should try to put something together myself. I've wanted to do a combiner for ages but I need to start small.

>>11477694
Yeah, protodermis instead of matter. Protodermis being what toa can manipulate.
Well, it does break down when you get to bara magna/spherus magna, unless that well of protodermis was inside of everything on the planet too to the degree that it could also be manipulated... but obviously I'm takibg liberties

So since I brought up Roboriders anyway, I'd like to do some brainstorming on the topic. The first hurdle I'm undecided on is exactly what sort of form it would take. I basically have three ideas on that:
>more or less just a motorcycle with only the more basic anthropomorphic elements that the original sets have
This would be the least Bioniclesque option, basically, which would either use masks for the faces or their original heads (or more greebly part-built approximations).
>motorcycletaurs, motorcycles with partial torso and arms
This I feel is probably more in the spirit of the originals, since while they're obviously motorcycle-shaped they have clear heads, arms to varying degrees, and in some cases like Lava or Swamp something approximating a torso rather than just a chassis.
>straight-up Toa adaptations
Boring, but more straightforward. I would probably make them the rest of the Chronicler's Company since the colour schemes actually line up pretty well. Obviously using those colour schemes preferentially where they conflict with the CC and with weapons based on the Roboriders'. Macku would be replaced with a new member of the team since she's off in space being a Slizer.
The second and arguably bigger hurdle is how to integrate the wheel-launching function, since like with the Slizers I think it's an important part of the whole concept. With either the motorcycle or 'taur options I can't use them as wheels the same way, since scaling it up means the actual wheels have to be larger more conventional Technic wheels. The launchers would have to probably mounted next to the front wheel without ruining the profile of it all (maybe folding out?) or possibly over it. If I go straight Toa, it's even harder, since while the launcher assemblage can be mounted easily to a socket piece it looks a bit shit (see the Power/Onyx humanoid combiner). I'm thinking in that case probably over the shoulder as with a few of my Slizer mocs.
So, thoughts? There are no dumb ideas.

>>11478063
rahi with wheels

>>11478063
I'd go with the first option. You want someone to be able to look at them and be able to tell these are the roboriders like with your throwbots. Someone can see Ski and know what it is. The more you deviate from the bike with head the more it'll look like something else.

>>11478051
Maybe they don't need the presence of elemental particles to manipulate natural elements, only the otherwise synthetic and "soulless" programmable matter.

>>11478163
I think you're probably right, the more I think about it the more I don't like half-assing to force the Bionicle angle.

>>11478270
Hey, that makes sense. I might yoink it. Thanks.

>>11478063
>>11478072
Rahi with wheels 100%
doesn't get done enough nowadays

>>11478310
I wanna see some weird Rahi, shame they stopped em mostly when the Bohrok and such introduced so many cool parts

>>11477240
Holy shit, take a shower and take a break from the internet for a while.

>>11478510
Athena

>>11477630
But that actually looks pretty cool?

>>11477630
>filled out his shoes
Lame

>>11477630
>>11478703
It insists upon itself

>>11477384
I wish they did more with sonics. I like how De-Matorans are characterized as neurotic freaks who will die if you box their ears.

>>11477622
This feels like it's missing something. It's just...drab. To me, anyway. I don't know. The arms or the shoulderpads maybe?

>>11477630
Eh... I like the other one better. This one is too busy, too chunky, and the chest looks all wrong.

>>11477613
>projecting
What an unoriginal comment, and an unoriginal image to boot!

>>11477630
>stars hau
What the fuck.

>>11478845
No good opinion has ever begun with "eh".

>>11478845
Oh yeah? A wholesome chunky coom?

>>11477362
NTA but my favorite redesign of the Hau Nuva is the Uniter version. Keeps. If it had G1 mouth connection and did away with the JUST crystal top, it would be perfect.

>>11479441
I always liked how they used the Nuva symbols for the Uniters.

>>11479441
>Keeps
*Keeps the core design and shadpe but doesn't look like a veiny bloated mess.

>>11477362
>>11479446
Speaking of describing Tahu Nuva as a swollen veiny cock, I have to wonder if people do DIY Bionicle dildoes. Especially given how much of the "fandom" is discord trannies.

>>11477622
Absolutely love this. Could you break down the chest and shoulder builds more thoroughly?
What part does the knee connector pivot on?

>>11479441
a lot of g2 designs are really underrated imo. Master Pohatu has my favorite version of the Kakama, and Lewa's masks were great through both versions. And Kulta & his skeletons and Umarak were great designs.

>>11479441
>>11479894
I love the designs of the Master masks, just really don't like how they connect, makes them a lot less versatile.

>>11480413
Don't know why they didn't just use half-clips or those little pegs/rods or something

>>11479894
The Mask of Control is probably one of my favourite masks. I need to build a body for it some day.

>>11479441
The Uniters really looked like they were a mid-stage about to evolve beyond the original Nuva. It really kills me that G2 died before I could see if I was right.

>>11480561
My theory is that one of the reasons Air was changed to Jungle was because the 3 year plan would see the Toa become flight-adapted in the final year as a reference to the Phantoka and Mistika.

>>11480657
You're a genius, that's absolutely what they were planning.

so which of the piraka was the most op? assume vezok is in his pre-split state so he isn't significantly mentally diminished

>>11480657
>Phantoka/Mistika but executed with an actual budget and working joints and not a last minute retool of an unrelated Toa team
>presumably with a more mystical, less tech-based flavor as per G2's overall vibe
FUCK
FUCK
WHY WERE WE DENIED THIS

>>11481442
Zaktann.

>>11469211
I make a list of all my broken pieces on bricklink and then I buy them whenever they show up in a seller's inventory that I'm buying from. At the moment though I need some broken space police minifig parts and those are pretty hard to find.

>>11481442
Reidak. Literally the sole reason why the Toa Nuva got defeated by the Piraka the first time was because they kept trying to smack him down the conventional way (in a fit of plot-induced stupidity, instead of just tossing him in the ocean or something) while the rest picked them off one by one. Thus dooming us to an eternity of "durr the Inika are stronger than the Nuva" retard powerlevel posting.

>>11481576
This doesn't really apply to other Lego overall or even other Technic connectors, but whenever I'm shopping on Bricklink I check to see if the seller has any classic socket pieces and if so buy his whole stock (excluding super-common ones like black singles and blay singles/short doubles) so I have a reasonable amount of spares. Long double sockets especially I find are much more fragile, lime notwithstanding, so I guess the structural quality was going down even before the 2008 Angleshit Apocalypse.

How many of you guys are trannies?

>>11481701
that does bring up a good point. why does the bionicle fandom seem to have such a massive concentration of trannies? it might be more trannies per capita than even the sonic fandom

>>11481758
Loosely organized communities are vulnerable to being taken advantage of by abusive control freaks

>>11481758
>>11481764
Plus dead franchise (minimal normie dilution, only the diehards and hipsters). Plus building toy. Plus oc donut steel tradition (like Sanic). Plus its timing means that mostly millennials grew up with it. Autistic millennials are basically the #1 demographic for troonage.

>>11481758
because losers enjoy bionicle trash

>sub 1% of the population
>dominates 99% of the discourse on the modern internet
fucking awesome

>>11481442
Avak. Perfect prison is insanely OP. And he was arguably the smartest.

>>11480657
>>11481488
>some have jet boosters
>some have plane wings
>some have bird-like wings
I haven't bought a lego product since g2 and I don't think I'll be changing my tune

>>11481758
small fandom + loud minority = "huh that group of people must be a large % of them!" even though it's not true
there are more Christians in the bionicle fandom than trannies but they (we) get ostracized for proselytizing or sometimes even just mentioning it.

>>11481775
>Plus its timing means that mostly millennials grew up with it.
Uh, there are NO millenials that grew up with bionicles. Only zoomers were young enough to have them as a kid...

>>11481810
Anon, the cutoff between millennials and gen Z is 1996-1997, do you seriously think only literal 4-5 year olds cared about Bionicle back when it started?

>>11481758
Same reason as other toys/games with a lot of customization. They hate themselves and think they can manipulate reality like they do in their pretend worlds.

>>11481852
gen z started in 1990...

>>11481701
>>11481758
I have a better point: shut the fuck up this literally has nothing to do with Bionicle.
Seriously, every fucking thread with you people. Post fucking MOCs, show your displays, talk lore, anything else but talk about some part of the fandom that is inconsequential.

>>11481663
A lot of my 06/07 long double sockets cracked even as a kid, had to steal plenty of Visorak limbs

>>11481913
I have no idea what are your age ranges for each generation and where you pulled them from but I need you to know absolutely nobody else in the entire fucking world thinks current 35 year olds count as zoomers

>>11481990
lol

>>11481701
You are, most obviously.

>>11481442
The Piraka were retardedly overpowered. Avak's prison power will defeat any solo opponent 9/10 times. Reidak's adaption power was so busted much of the Nuva's first fight with him was just them trying (and failing) to put him down.

>>11481660
>>11482147
To be fair to the Nuva, the Inika never actually beat the Piraka either
>First fight: Hakann and Thok steal Brutaka's power, knock everyone out, Inika have to team up with the other four equally shit-kicked Piraka
>Second fight: Inika get KOed again, Piraka choose for some reason to hurry down into the volcano to get to the Ignika first instead of just taking a minute to slit the Toa's throats so they don't *have* to race anyone but each other
>Third fight: Inika get a bridge dropped on them
>Fourth fight: Inika (now Mahri) can't even handle fucknuggeted Piraka snakes without daddy Axonn stepping in to save them

>>11482147
>>11482200
according to greg, thok can use his power on weapons- and masks. fucking masks.

Christ this digs up 18 year old memories of how much I really didn't like the Piraka.

>>11482253
Yo yo, Piraka

>>11482253
they were my introduction to bionicle. and i like their characters

>>11482243
It's been said before, but Greg Q&As are just the Bionicle equivalent of JKR saying that before plumbing wizards shat their robes as they walked and magicked it away.

>>11482448
vannish mepoopum

>>11482458
Sounds more like a pajeet name than a spell. But I guess that would be fitting.

>>11482448
still it's the only expansion we get, especially for the piraka who were just wasted as characters

>>11481852
I got Mata Tahu at 5 for loosing my first tooth. I had wanted him since Bionicle had been initially announced in the Lego magazine.

I've decided to start a display of every "Brown" Bionicle. "Brown" in quotation marks because they started producing the sixth whatever in any line all sorts of colors. It shows a pretty interesting progression, and is a lot more interesting than any other color.

>>11482705
>Velika under Metru Nui
>Pouks under the Ignition saga
0/10 absolutely irredeemable

>>11482735
lol sorry, I only have those three spaces and compromises had to be made.

>>11482747
Just switch them around, it's not like they differ in size

>>11482751
It was more Pohatu was in one, Onewa in the second, then Hewkii in the third, not so much chronological order. I just put Velika there because he has the same mask.

>>11481442
vezok is basically a master sorcerer and assassin rolled into one. broken when you think about it

>>11482705
mmm looks like chocolate

>>11482200
>Inika (now Mahri) can't even handle fucknuggeted Piraka snakes without daddy Axonn stepping in to save them
>fucknuggeted Piraka snakes
gigageg

>>11482757
I second that you should swap them for our autism

>>11482757
But you also have hewkii and onewa in the first one, and photok has a kakama so he should be in the first one too by your logic

>>11482832
I did swap them, the collective Autism is sated.
>>11482836
You know, that is true. I think it's more likely I just didn't think too hard about it when I put them up there. Also I didn't know Photok's mask was a Kakama.

>>11482870
Yeah, the 3 phantoka matoran are wearing noble versions of the Toa's masks, noble kakama, noble miru, noble akaku. I kind of like them, they don't resemble the originals but neither do most noble masks.
Also the shadow matoran are wearing noble versions of the mask of vampirism, shattering, and silence lol

>>11482879
Didn't know that, that's pretty cool. Those are some of the worst sets of all time but I always thought the masks looked pretty cool. But then again pretty much all of them do.

>>11482892
I think if they had just had the forethought to make the giant monolithic pieces they were using for the bodies, limbs, and head pieces more useful for any other given application (and hadn't cheaped out on awful plastic and used those dumb square connectors) then they would have been better received. Maybe make the arms have some connection points where a socket or ball joint could be added at a different angle to allow it to perform multiple roles, or had the body pieces more easily mesh in with existing hips or torsos or something, like if photok's body design could be attached to some metru hips without looking dumb or something. Idk of they just doubled the parts counts for them it would have fixes everything and still have been fine for little kids imo...

>>11482902
The bodies do make good bases to build large characters though.

>>11482902
I think it really comes down to the torso being one stupid piece. The Voya Nui Matoran were all unique and had different proportions because the torsos were constructed of simple parts. Having the big dumb torso piece forces them to all look the same. And the Av arm piece is just bad.

>>11482879
Maybe an unpopular opinion but "Great and Noble versions of the same mask have specific defined and different appearances" was the shittiest retcon to come out of Metru Nui. Just raises more questions than it answers, like why every single matoran from Metru Nui/Mata Nui wore either only Noble-"shaped" versions of the six specific masks that the Toa Metru wore or only the Great version of the six masks worn by the six Toa (still not comfortable with "Toa Mata") of legend. Although I guess in the latter case maybe they were just popular that way. Don't see what's wrong with just saying "this is a Huna, this is also a Huna". Especially since Mr Big Dick Mask Maker Vakama didn't instantly know what his entire team's mask powers were just from the shape. Just one big headache the more you think about it.

>>11483156
I agreed with you at first but personally I always felt that masks should have been a single dedicated shape no matter what and any changes to its design would either make its abilities weaker, make it sometimes fail, or completely destroy its abilities. Would make it much more compelling and allow for more reasonable conflict, and weakness.

>>11482879
>>11482892
>>11482902
>>11483156
>>11483289
damn you bionifags can't stop regurgitating this stale, dead brand

>>11473391
>all this heresy
I dunno man, not a huge fan. I try to avoid it nowadays.

>>11477183
I like greeble too, but I like to posing them more. I will never understand statue builds.

>>11483289
Well, yes, I agree, but then Norik came along with his "mask shaped exactly like a completely different mask" bullshit and here we are.
Ideally, every type of mask would have a defined range of appearances and attributes that still made it function as that mask without having to classify as whatever variant.
Anyway, to the original point, in 2001 I always understood "Noble" and "Great" to be specific groupings of those six masks respectively rather than powerlevel rankings. The Noble masks just happened to not be as strong as the Great. Like nobody would say that the powerless masks that Tamaru or Ahkmou wore were shaped like Noble Rau, just Rau.

>local mom trying to get her kid Bionicle for his birthday, can't pay collector prices for obvious reasons
>have multiple sets including rare ones I don't need dupes of
Have to keep the fandom alive. This little shit's getting a Tarakava and he has no idea

>>11483429
woah... do you have link to build that ?? (idk how biog works)

>>11483494
Does the plastic even hold up for actual play these days?
I feel like a tarakava punching a toa to knock the mask off will just snap the head off completely at the technic connector with how many of those I've seen cracked.

>>11483536
I'm not gonna lie to you and say that a set NIB (NIC?) from back then is going to have all the plastic good as when it was made, but it'll hold up for longer than the pieces you've been using for over 20 years just because no starting wear.
Excep 2008-2010 angleshit sockets of course, that shit will still crack the second time you connect it. Sometimes even the first.

>>11483292
Pedophile.

>>11483536
I replaced the rubber bands. The sets themselves are sound, and a Tarakava isn't as hard on things like a Bohrok might. Plus fewer joint issues (though they're also getting some Rahkshi, but again I think those seem pretty sound for the time being. Should hold up to play well)

>>11483463
Yeah... I more or less just cherrypick what I like and headcanon everything else in my own personal autistic g3. Solves all of my complaints, lmao.

>>11483816
Well that's kinda what I'm getting at, it's all mutually contradictory bullshit where masks are concerned, so just disregard what you feel you have to. Nobody's going to criticize your toa moc for wearing an OG Noble mask without some bullshit explanation. On here, anyway, who knows or cares what redditroons do.

>>11483463
Did we ever find out why they decided to make Toa Dume and Nidhiki those random ass Rahaga instead?

>>11484352
It's murky tbdesu, in a large part because even long after Bionicle was dead various Lego mouthpieces like Greg would strenuously deny that those two were ever supposed to be Dume and Nidhiki, even though any retard could see that that's obviously whom they were designed off of. Hard to come to the truth when they bullshit like that.

When was "Love isn't canon" established?

Speaking of autism, I've recently been rebuilding some childhood sets and of the 3 original Toa I had I have made some minor adjustments. I replaced all the light gray technic with black, swapped Tahu's sword for the dual-molded one, and I somehow lost Kopaka's kino radar dish so I used brasso to scrub the print off a Captain america Hero Factory shield. Oh and I gave them technic connector hands, I much prefer those to the blocky ones personally.

captcha was HRT4M lol

I forgot to mention I added neck articulation with some bootleg technic bits off aliexpress.

And thats all them for now. I am trying to track down the remaining three locally, theres a few listings going for decent prices.

>>11484417
What do you consider decent prices for toa matas? I was thinking of getting some

>>11484419
NTA but you shouldn't pay more than 15 bucks each

>>11484480
>>11484419
$15 is the current going rate and they should never go any higher.
Paying $20+ for a canister set is absurd to ever consider.

>>11484480
>>11484496
Including shipping?

>>11484497
Excluding.
If you can, aim to find them in a lot or bulk buy them from a single seller. Paying shipping for each individual set just ain't worth it imo, but if you're trying to complete the set then it might be for you.

>>11484678
Rahi designs genuinely peaked with fikous

>>11484688
Dubs witnessed

>>11484737
First technically accurate spider (8 limbs) ever made

>>11484352
current year synergy, very common from various companies.

who decreed Karzahni had to look like this?

>>11484985
Greg or something
Whoever the fuck did the Hellboy illustration tracing.
Either way, I fuck with it. Still a shame the mask was never formally released.

>>11485150
I think its cool to have characters never officially released or never even shown, makes them more mysterious, and it makes you want to build your own version of them

>>11484985
At least this version doesn't have fat thunder thighs and hips and skinny little pooner shoulders.

>>11484985
One of the better ones I've seen. Still don't like that mask.

Give me advice to separate the eyes

>>11485537
There's a lot of guides online but I had to do this recently because I bought a bulk on marketplace and had to clean all the pieces.

I don't remember what order I did it in, but I followed a guide where you put an axle in the brain stem and another axle in his mouth. You put pressure on the mouth axle, and it pushes on the brainstem axle. It should create some space. But I think I was scared I was going to bend the axle and damage the eyes.

Something like this, but it did not come out easy for me the way it did for this guy:
https://youtu.be/fAGJJX0uJn8?t=36

I also carefully used a flathead screwdriver to wiggle some space between the head and the eyes. I was just extremely careful not to scratch or damage anything. I don't remember if I did the flat head or a little bit of the other method first.

>>11485537
don't

>>11485537
If you have those plastic pick tools or the guitar pick looking ones that you use to pull shit like phones apart without mangling them up, you can use those. Just shove it between the eye stalk and top of the back of the skull.

>>11485537
Use something flat, wide, and non-metal. Insert between the stem and the centre of the skull. Pull laterally, don't lever. Don't do it around the edges of the skull because it will crimp the plastic.

>>11485537

I'm looking at lots, what pieces should I be looking for to see if Roodaka's in it or not? Afaik she doesn't have a lot of pieces you can easily trace back to her.

>>11486855
...Silver Rahkshi heads? Doy.

>>11486905
Also silver visorak feet, I think. There are later sets that use them, but in pearl silver, so if you have a good eye you can look for just the flat silver.
But yes, obviously, the rahkshiboobs are both her most obvious attribute and her most obvious unique recolour.

>>11486905
>>11487097
Rahkshiboobs are rather small pieces so they're usually bound to be at the bottom of a lot, so they're not a good way of telling if she's there. Will look for the visorak feet though.

>>11477387
>filename
Kek

>>11482253
Das raycis mane

I just got a Gali mata for extremely cheap, but I don't have the container. What's the best way of getting one?

>>11488107
bricklink still I imagine

I had the dream again but this time it was so lucid that when I woke up I was pleasantly content instead of upset
I was so aware I was in a dream that I was able to just enjoy looking at the version of G3 my brain made up. It was the OG Toa Mata again but also some Rahi, stuff like the Boxor, mask packs, etc.

In retrospect, I'm kind of nostalgic of the push LEGO had for Hero Factory

Obviously, I doubt I'm the first person to ever have this idea, but just wanted to share that those little minifig hand blast holders fit very snugly into a Rahkshi backplate, so you can just use any system spike/blade piece (and they've made quite a lot of them over the last two decades) for custom Rahkshi spines.

>>11488755
Shrimple as.

Just came across this Kraata concept art for Mask of Light, interesting how this "orb" thing that's so prominent here didn't make it into the final story or movie design at all. Or was it there and I just never noticed?

>>11488752
I think I'm sadder over HF's cancellation than Bionicle.

HF had a lot of potential but Lego squandered it, I think compared to Bionicle, the multimedia aspect of HF hurt it rather than help its case.

>>11481660
eat shit, much?

https://www.reddit.com/r/bioniclelego/s/FO0WtvW2tf

...what the actual fuck.

>>11488752
>>11488955
I honestly believe that TLG killed Bionicle with the cancellation of G1. In my experience, a few years into the 2010s kids had no idea what Bionicle was, and seeing Bionicle sets they thought they were Hero Factory. Then by the time G2 came around the world and trends have changed a lot. Having lost the aspect of being an established IP Bionicle had no chance to survive anymore (but yeah, it had a lot of other problems too).
And later by killing Hero Factory they killed constraction altogether. Hero Factory was still popular enough, and fans of Hero Factory weren't interested in Bionicle G2. I have memories of both kids and their parents asking/looking for Hero Factory back in 2015-2016. I guess the higher price points didn't help either, G2 sets also looked plainer and smoother (often with awkward proportions and ugly color schemes) than most Hero Factory sets. HF still had this robot-like look with mechanical detailing and this in-your-face cool factor to it. I don't really get why they didn't use the more detailed shells and addons that were available at the time in G2.

>>11477183
I'm pretty sure the one on your pic is poseable.

>>11489391
I think G2 was too early. A couple of years after G2 got cancelled there was a big boom of bionicle memes for the normies and most of them were completely unaware G2 even existed.

If you could change one mask power from the Toa Mata, which would it be? I'd probably change the Kaukau's power since it's useless out of water.

>>11489789
I'm pretty sure the Kaukau is just the designated loser in that contest.

>>11489999
Nice quads

>>11489493
I think a decent amount of it was the early Gen Z was just graduating high school so instead of their parents buying them things they were nostalgic for from a few years ago, they got told to get a job but in 2015 no one wanted to hire high school aged kids. Or at least that's why I never was able to get any Gen 2 sets.

>>11489789
>>11489999
if you had to change EVERY Mata mask power, what would you change them to? Bonus if they're all-new abilities not in any other mask.
For me, at least off the top of my head, it's
>Hau -> Healing (symbol of mata nui, contrasts Tahu's brash personality, as he grows and heals as a person he uses it more, etc)
>Kaukau -> Vulnerability detection (makes sense with her fighting style, gels well with her rare violent outbursts making those more effective, can be used to benefit attacking or help cover teammate's weaknesses, makes sense with the visor aesthetic, no longer effectively useless for non-Ga-Toa)
>Miru -> Enhanced hearing/senses (no longer a retroactive downgrade to the Kadin, balances Lewa's ADHD antics, thematically ties in with the music of Le-Koro, can be stretched to give Lewa a pseudo-spidey-sense which fits his character)
>Akaku -> Prediction (allows the user to see the true path of object or objects based on concentrating on one or more, combines with the telescope lens well just like the original, vibes with Kopaka's relaxed, cold, and methodical fighting style, and his overreliance on it meshes with his later-insistence on him being clumsy, which I find funny) (honestly this one was hardest because the akaku's x-ray vision is already peak, especially with the telescopic lens attachment)
>Kakama -> Friction control (allows him to glance and slide on any surface or increase the grip instead; helps compensate for his speed as normal, but now plays into his individual strength, and lets him climb easier, while allowing him to use his projectiles EVEN easier for grabbing and slinging.)
>Pakari -> Redirection (allows him to redirect movement and momentum very easily, which would allow him to gain similar strength to the pakari but requires his notorious wisdom to use effectively, and makes him out to be a bit more of a martial artist; when digging, it could allow hin to slough dirt and rubble to the side as he proceeds.)
Thoughts?

>>11490042
>can be stretched to give Lewa a pseudo-spidey-sense which fits his character
considering how close Bionicle launched to the Raimi Spiderman movie I'm surprised this wasn't done.

>>11490042
>Vulnerability detection
Feels like something that would be more appropriate for the Akaku

>>11490045
especially considering stuff like pohatu stealing the flash's vibration phasing showing they have no qualms with stealing super shticks.

>>11490067
very reasonable counterpoint, I thought about it while typing it up but I was already trying to just come up with something plausible by that point lmao. What would y'all two pick for alternate abilities of their masks?

Rebuilt my Tower of Toa, was missing a couple pieces but for now my pearl gold Kraahkan will be on the Visorak until I buy a flat gold replacement. I'll take a picture of it set up in the morning.

>>11490352
Water breathing should've probably been an additional effect of the Kaukau, while making the main power something that isn't useless for anyone who isn't Gali. What that could be, I have no idea.

Gonna go gambling for parts soon

>>11489789
Always thought the Kaukau and Miru powers should have been rolled into just a part of the powerset of air/water Toa.
A Toa of water being able to fucking drown is hilarious. It would be like Kopaka unable to handle the cold and freezing to death.

>>11490765
Mask of Adaptation. Allows the wearer to adapt to survive any environment, including underwater. Apparently there's already a "canon" one that physically transforms the wearer's body, but I'm thinking more along the lines of just passively protecting you from any environmental hazards like extreme temperatures or bad air. Effectively this would allow the Toa to survive in each other's "home" environments, such as being underwater or in a volcano.

screw the powersets tell me which versions of the mata masks you like best and worst (including master/uniter, the 3 nobles, lhiikan variant hau, and any other versions I'm forgetting)
For me I've always hated the nuva masks generally, though I don't mind the Kakama Nuva or the Miru Nuva. I just think the Hau Nuva, Kaukau Nuva, Akaku Nuva, and ESPECIALLY the Pakari Nuva look awful.
I also prefer Master Pohatu's "kakama" over all other versions, genuinely. I think it's the best version of the kakama. And controversial as it might be I like the master "kaukau", master "akaku" and the master "pakari" better than the OG. Just wish the master "kaukau" had the visor. Didn't really like any of the Uniter masks for similar reason to the Nuva masks, though.
I think if you just barely touched up the Miru and Hau, just a tiny tiny bit to add a little extra detail/depth and adjust the 4 master versions of the masks to be slightly less complex (and add the visor to the kaukau) then it'd be the best versions. Until I said that right at the end I didn't realize how much I liked the reboot's versions of the masks, writing it out like that.

>>11491009
>I don't mind the Kakama Nuva
Awful, awful taste. It's literally the worst, and yes, that does include the Cowcow Nuva.
And while I won't bitch at you too much about liking the Master Kakama, I will say that I prefer the original. I find the G2 version too thick and chunky.
To answer your original question, I've always liked the Maxilos Hau. Surprised at the absence of "adaptive" Tahu mocs using it.

>>11491035
Is the Maxilos mask actually meant to be a Hau or does it just superficially resemble it?

>>11490765
When I was a kid I preferred it to just being a Mask allowing one to hold their breath for a long period of time and not just underwater

>>11491169
Probably not, but does it really matter? It's such an obvious visual match for a Hau (Mahri?).

>>11491174
Sorry meant for >>11491052
Anyway to add on to that it's kind of the same way the Hydraxon/Von Nebula mask isn't a "real" mask but everyone still considers it to be a "Great"/variant Kiril.

>>11491035
kakam nuva has some cool curves, it reminds me of those old cars with fins on their back. It's also got a very coherent design with those wings that start under the eye and the simple (for a nuva mask) details around the mouth area. If it had been introduced in any other year it would have been a hit, imo.

Speaking of mask powers, the """legendary""" mask powers are all over the place.
>complete control over life and death
>worlds most worthless time manipulation powers that everyone says is super powerful but never does anything
>you know how to make things

>>11491654
It's really more a case of the Ignika being overpowered bullshit that randomly gets more overpowered as the plot demands than the other two falling short.
Also, just for the record, Tahu made the Vahi work the first time he used it and it did exactly what he wanted it to, the Bohrok-Kal just had a bullshit plot armour failsafe out of nowhere.
In fact all that "dood le Vahi is so hecking hard to use" shit just seems like Gregcope because he forgot that the only other person to try using it was a fuckup who'd never actually used *any* mask power before.

>>11491675
It's still funny how Makuta's want for the Vahi is he's just impatient.
Like bro you are an immortal gaseous superbeing just do something else for 1000 years.

>>11491690
Technically, everyone inside the GSR is immortal. And even the organic (cyborg) Magnans have some fuck-off retarded lifespans. Gresh is supposedly one of the youngest Glatorian and even he was born before the Core War, still making him 100000+ years old. Which frankly makes the whole 2009 setting really fucking stupid if you think about it too hard, because you're expected to believe that nobody remembers all the ancient history of their post-apocalyptic setting even though they were all alive at the time.

>>11491709
Revisiting the lore when I was older made me realize that the timescale is completely fucking retarded. Everything has too many 0's.
There's like 75,000 years of nothing happening and then all the toyline relevant story happens in less than a fucking year.

>>11491719
Yeah, whoever came up with the endlessly repeated 100000 figure needs to be fucking shot.

>>11491722
And it makes the turaga of mata nui seem irredeemably horrible. 999 years of not a lot happening, and you still live in basic structures and didn't bother to tell the matoran anything?

>>11491723
Reminder that they built those stone huts by cannibalizing six giant airships. Of the space magic flying saucer variety, not the balloon variety.

>>11491726
And, y'know, now that I say it I'm not sure how that's even supposed to work. How do you make a bamboo treehouse village out of metal?

>>11491726
>be the turaga
>dismantle advanced tech to build stone and tree huts instead of just building them normally
>let the matoran live a lie for a millennia because it's funny i guess
>don't organize a unified fighting force despite knowing you are going to get attacked eventually
>can't handle possessed animals and the toa have to bail you out
If Makuta sent Rahkshi up to the island instead of trying to be subtle they would have all died.

Am I the only one who would have prefered this as the GWP? With some printed pieces the masks could look alright, and Toas of this scale could be more or less minifig scale (if you imagine that it's not the matoran being short but the toa being big instead)

I understand that this is early artwork since the Bahrag aren't weird spiders, but what is this meant to convey? A life cycle? A yin/yang style duality?
In the middle I can identify:
1. Toa
2. Matoran (post The Rebuilding)
3. Matoran (pre The Rebuilding)
4. A Kanohi
5. ??? looks like a shadow leech
6. Krana
7. Bohrok Va
8. ??????
9. Bohrok
I understand that Av-Matoran eventually decay(?) into Bohrok shells unless that's no longer canon

>>11491852
the GWP Tahu was bullshit but I don't know if I can accept the lack of articulation in the limbs here

>>11491955
I think this is meant to show that Matoran and Bohrok diverged from the same "ancestor". This would make sense given the "you dared oppose your brothers" line from the Bahrag. Krana are said to be made by putting an "unknown form of energy" into energized protodermis, so the thing in the middle might be that. If that's the case then presumably a different process turns the energy into Matoran. It's hard to find any information that isn't from a Greg asspull though.
>Matoran (post The Rebuilding)
That's a Turaga I'm pretty sure, the legs look just like the ones the sets have. This would make sense given that Turaga are essentially the midway point between Matoran and Toa. This also would have been an early hint at Matoran being able to become Toa and Toa becoming Turaga.
All the stuff on the Bohrok side I'm not sure about though. The first thing would logically be a Krana, although it doesn't resemble any existing designs, unlike the other side which clearly has a Hau. I guess it's possible this graphic was made before any Krana were designed. I don't think the next thing is supposed to be a Bohrok Va since it doesn't really look like one. I'm pretty sure the Va are fully mechanical, since the Krana they carry aren't actually used by them. So it seems they aren't an evolutionarily step and are just made to serve the Bohrok. I think everything on the Bohrok side is just meant to represent hypothetical stages between the "unknown energy" in the middle and the Bohrok. Whether or not they're based on any prototype designs is anyone's guess, but it's at least clear that the design of the Bohrok was pretty much finalized by that point since that's unmistakably the silhouette of the final sets.

>>11491735
Vakama Kaczynski

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>>11491722
Timescale is stupid as fuck if there was somehow no one being born that entire time but the series being canceled probably doesn't help.

Anybody know any other parts that can grasp onto technic axles like this? I wanna use this spear in a mech

>>11492742
this might be better asked in the lego thread, presuming you haven't already asked there. I have no earthly clue, personally. Good luck.

>>11491654
The MoCr IIRC gives you a project if you don't know how to create thing, but if you do you can actually create things. Vahi is still underwhelming though, granted.

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>>11491675
I wish the Vahi had a storyline revolving around it like the Ignika, even if it was just for one arc. Would have been better than the Bohrok Kal filler arc.
Speaking of how the story could have possibly gone, what do you think of Makuta coming back all the time? Would you have prefered if he stayed this force of nature complementing Mata Nui as seen in MNOG?

>>11492887
but we had like 2.5 arcs about the vahi

>>11492826
No answers came for it there

>>11492930
shucks, well I hope someone finds something for you
remember to autistically post about it for a week or 2 to guarantee success

>>11492887
Well, we were kinda going for that in G2 before it ended. Not that it was all that much to begin with.
Still would have been neat to get the "other half" of the mask.

>>11492742
AFAIK this is literally the only other piece it clips into. And then you'd be stuck finding whatever weird piece this connects with. It's a mech though, so honestly I'd just give it posable fingers and have it grab the spear with only friction.

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>>11493093
I agree it would probably be best to just grip it with friction, that or just build some assembly that would hold it in place, which probably wouldn't be too hard.

I didn't know there were building programs for this kind of stuff.
Some shitty build I've rendered, I really wish I knew how to place flexible parts properly.

>>11493298
the backshot

>>11493093
It could be printed up to connect via two studs but yeah an interesting challenge

>>11493298
stud.io doesn't have the same vibe LDD did

I’ll see what I can do with the stuff I have

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>>11493300
Cute fatty.

Apparently it's a really unpopular opinion to think the 2003 Makuta set sucks.

>>11492039
How were the early 2000s CGs so kino
What did they tap into to achieve this

>>11493300
The over reliance on axle-balls is a cancer second only to exposed studs. This is a better alternative. At least you used the through-axle ones. The single-ended balls have almost no grip strength.

>>11493989
Frig off, exposed studs are sexy.

>>11493989
what is the part called? I was not very satisfied with the legs since they looked so skinny so this might help me to make new ones

>>11494285
if you're a systemfag

>>11493925
Calm down, Vakama. Take a breath breath.

Can Gold Ship outrun Pohatu?

>>11495229
Kakama allowed Pohatu to get from Po-Wahi to Ko-Wahi in under a minute, I don't think any of these horse hoes can match that unless you give them that mask as well

>>11495229
Can Gold Ship outrun Kapura?

>>11495287
Anyone can go faster than Kapura, but he'll get to the finish line first.

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>>11495287
One of the few Gregisms I like is when he said that Kapura's ability isn't teleportation or some sort of integer rollover speed glitch (not that I think it's fair for someone who's otherwise so salty about MNOG to claim authority over its content). Makes it more fun if it's something so alien and metaphysically bizarre that there's no simpler way to describe it than "travelling great distances by moving slowly".

>>11495957
I was about to ask if Greg ever tried to retroactively make that one boring, nice to hear he actually knew better for once.

>>11495957
It was established back in MNOG that it wasn't teleportation, Kapura seemingly requires terrain to be walkable for his ability to work, as he said he couldn't cross the ravine near the end of the game.

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