Thread 11521582

>The situation surrounding international shipping to America is once again changing. As announced in a White House press release, the currently existing rules on ‘De Minimis,’ which exempts shipments valued at under $800 from tariffs, is expected to be removed.

>The recent announcement implies that a flat-rate fee will be added to shipments valued at under $800, based on the effective IEEPA Tariff rate decided by the US government. These charges begin at $80 dollars and increase depending on the tariff rate of the country of origin.

>This means that our currently available shipping methods to the US could be affected. However, we cannot verify with certainty that the JP post methods will definitely be affected.

>Therefore, we would like to advise customers in the US to prepare for the possibility of tariffs also being applied to JP post methods following August 29th.

>In particular, we recommend utilizing the Private Warehouse. As we have recently experienced delays, currently we are not enforcing our 6-month storage limit, and allowing customers to store for an indefinite period of time.

>If you are shipping to the US, we recommend shipping as soon as you can, however, please be aware that we are still experiencing some delays, and we highly recommend using the Private Warehouse if you are concerned about your shipment arriving in time. Depending on the time of your shipment request, we cannot guarantee arrival before the 29th.

So HLJ just sent out an email last night/this morning. De minimis is gone and that anything under $800 is going to be subject to a $80 flat rate fee.
This probably just fucked buying anything overseas unless you’re getting a lot and at that point you’re pushing the $800 mark. I would say this might just make buying imports from BBTS worth it, but they’ll probably just raise their prices as well.
How is /toy/ going to deal with this? This might be the end for a lot of people in this hobby.

>>11521582 (OP)
Americans really are pathetic and need to give all their money for Israel and just die already

>>11521586
Go back to your containment thread

The $80 minimum is if it goes through the post office from what I understand, FedEx/DHL will likely use the correct percentages of declared value. Basically don’t use EMS anymore unless your package is actually approaching $800 in value.

>>11521582 (OP)
>How is /toy/ going to deal with this?
Accept that I won't be able to get everything I used to get before. I'll have to learn to be more satisfied with what I do have. It will help curate my consumption habits. I have three other hobbies, which have been mostly neglected lately, so I will probably focus on those instead.
On the other hand, I still will be buying from overseas. I will just have to be more careful and effecient about grouping packages together. I have quite a few things on PO that will be hit regardless. My only hope is things cool down and it goes to ONLY a % based fee (and hopefully no more than 15%). The $80 flat fee is extremely brutal.

>>11521599
HLJ doesn’t offer DHL anymore. So are you saying use Airmail from now on instead of EMS?

>>11521604
no, airmail goes through the post office too and will face the exact same fees
They will likely reinstate DHL after this as the entire reason they were not using it was they deemed the risk of tariffs too high

>>11521593
>>11521599
>>11521602
>>11521604
God I'm so hard right now knowing Drumpf fucke you retards real hard for false promises of halting immigration just to import jeets.

We’re going to war lol

>>11521611
American zoomers sill be sacrificed for Israel Kek

>>11521582 (OP)
>and allowing customers to store for an indefinite period of time
Yeah, this won't come back to bite them in the ass....again.

>>11521626
Oh yeah, didn’t they end up having to put people’s stuff outside in the sun the last time they did that?

>>11521582 (OP)
B-but we're respected! And making trillions of dollars!

They’ll probably shutter the doors internationally in a few years. Between massive shipping delays because they overhauled their distribution system and warehouse for a month to this, not to mention they never have enough stock.

>>11521582 (OP)
imagine living in burgeristán
lmao

>>11521626
lol they went from
>please guys this is ridiculous please ship we are losing money on you all please here's a nice coupon please ship
to
>these tariffs are going to screw you, please use our storage please
Those poor HLJ employees must be getting major whiplash.
I do ship as soon as I can, but sometimes items get delayed months. I worry I look like that one guy who didn't ship anything for 3 years.

>>11521582 (OP)
They're letting you use your private warehouse indefinitely until shit cools down. And shit will cool down. Stop clutching your pearls. They don't even know if Japan Mail will charge the tariff rate.

>>11521685
You're full of shit, thing's aren't cooling down until we fight back against this.

Why is Donald Trump doing this?

I can't believe Donald Trump hates toys and toy buyers. He hates your collection. He doesn't want you to have it.

>>11521720
Go get 'em Superman.
Let us know how it all works out

>>11521722
Dementia, retardation, and also trying desperately to get the fact he's an actual pedophile and has been for most of his life out of the news. But Epstein isn't going away.

>>11521722
Attempts to stop China from peddling cheap shit and illegal goods to the USA, which is a noble goal. Whether this was the best way to go about it is another matter.
>>11521739
Nice try, Goldstein. We all know Israel doesn't want Epstein's Mossad connections exposed and will do anything to avoid that happening, up to and including starting nuclear armageddon.

>>11521726
>February 2026 rolls around
>emergency Presidential statement from the White House
>"My heart goes out to the American 'wee-a-boos' who had to endure these grueling months. I have been working diligently with the top figure experts, the BEST ones, I tell you these guys are geniuses- and women too! SMART, GENIUS, collectors! How about that? Wonderful people. First I want to show you all my Japanese figurine collection."
>*shows room full of 1/4 anime figure bunnies*
>"This is my bunny room. Heh, not the bunnies the American people are used to. They keep the White House safe from the LIBERALS trying to make American men weak. Sleep Joe wouldn't have this during his time here. Maybe Clinton would have."
>*moves to next room lined with deltofs and the most expensive Japanese figure lines*
>"And this room is my favorite. You see this one, this is the best figure- I tell you what folks, we've been waiting for this one for years. See, you can take his gun out. Look at that. Ain't that wonderful."
>*continues playing around with the Char figurearts*
>"Anyways, I had to make sure we restricted importing to avoid competition with the top CHINA collectors. They're sending their worst I tell you. And little rocket man, I told you I'd win this competition. I now have the BEST figure collection in the world- the BEST. There's nothing like it. Okay, thank you for your time folks. Tariffs are now canceled, EXCEPT FOR CHINA. Okay God bless."

>>11521722
He has autism and his hyper fixations are Tariffs and getting back at people he thinks have wronged him.

>>11521790
I heard it in his voice and imagined him gesticulating the whole time as he did his collection tour.

>be me
>buy my first two Figmas December 2024
>get hooked on anime import figs and decide to start collecting them
>immediately this tariff shit happens
>saw how you used to be able to get figs from US sites like Amazon and BBTS for reasonable prices without having to import them yourself
>now all those sites list every new figure for $100-200+

This shit sucks bros. I picked the worst and most expensive time to get into the hobby.

>>11521790
>not spelling it CHY-NUH
Otherwise pretty spot on.

>>11521746
You're legit insane.

>>11521959
Oy vey.

How long we must suffer the craziness of this maniac?

>>11521964
till a Big Mac attack

>>11521626
Whatever happened to that dude who had a Kamen Rider figure in storage for like six years?

You were all warned by shipping and logistics anon over a year ago but you didn’t listen.

>>11521985
What’d they say? I don’t remember

>>11521987
To paraphrase
>toys are fucked
>all imported goods are fucked
>we are at war
>get the fuck away from ports
>bug out now (November 2024)
>anywhere from a year to two before war goes hot

You VILL be drafted. You VILL die for Israel cold and scared in a ditch in a foreign country.

>>11522004
Sounds like some major pol delusion.

>>11521599
But Fedex/DHL/UPS will charge you to process the tariffs, so you shouldn't use them

>>11521582 (OP)
>charges begin at 80 dollars

>>11522020
Jokes on you zoomer, I'm too old and have and documented physical disability. They don't want me.

>>11522022
I thought so at first too but he had been posting about getting ready to bug out for months after trump started showing up at the ports to talk with union leaders. One being a mutual golfing buddy apparently. To paraphrase again what I remember
>the election was a fix
>that wanted trump in for his overwhelming popularity
>they were banking on trumps popularity to soften to blow of the war going hot
>sleeper cells were something they were taking very seriously
>ICE was going to become a national police force

>>11522037
Hohols thought that too until they started vanning old farts because they ran out of youngsters.

>>11522037
Congratulations on your new drone pilot position.

>>11522024
ive had 2 things come from china i paid tariff on
$30 for a $100 valued item
still way better than $80 on something that low

>>11521685
This won't cool down for 3 years at best. The SC is R, so there is no one to save us from the price increases.

>>11522106
>there is no one to save us
Save yourself

Is this supposed to effect the product prices or just the shipping ones?

Right after comic con too. Say good bye to all those reveals.

>>11522037
Pigkraine literally drafts retards, and i’m not talking about their general population or azog. Literal downies and amputees.

>>11522111
The assumption is companies will pass the prices on to consumers.

All I can think of is my dad telling me how movie tickets used to be 50 cents and a bag of popcorn was a dime. This world is a joke.

>>11521582 (OP)
>Better chance of getting figures from HLJ because poor Americans priced out.
Thanks orange nonce

>>11521722
Because more people were shopping on Temu than Amazon and Trump is but buddies with Bezos.

>>11522111
Both!

>>11521722
squeezing americans for every penny to subsidize taxcuts for the ultra rich. austerity for the poor and private islands for the rich. billionaire welfare system.
>B-BUT IT'S TO COMBAT THE FENTANYL CRISIS
an 80-200 dollar tax isn't going to stop drug smugglers

>>11522162
Sorry bro, still going to order from hlj since it is still cheaper in bulk compared to domestic prices. Youre gonna fight me for those shf still.

>>11522107
I don't really know the logistics of leaving the US and my jerb probably wouldn't allow it. What kind of expert do you go to who informs people of all the logistics of moving to foreign countries?

>>11522167
funny because about 3/4ths of the shit you can buy on amazon is dropshipped from china

>>11521722
Because his feelings were hurt when he lost so now he wants to fuck everyone, not just little girls.

>>11522184
This. All thise bullshit is to hurt the everyday American. None of this helps, none of this does anything except make the poor poorer and make it harder to exist.

>>11522197
moving to a different country seems really difficult desu but I have been fantasizing about it even more especially after tariff bullshit. Toys mean a lot to me and if it's easier/cheaper to get them elsewhere, that would be nice. But of course that's not the only driver for me wanting to move. The job market and cost of living in the US is really fucked too. But I'm not sure where I would be better off.

>>11522048
They didn't run out, they just aren't willing to cross the political rubicon of lowering the draft age to 18(yet).

>>11522162
Cats.

>>11522275
I hate to be that guy, but having to pay more to import your little plastic anime figures isn't the end of the world and it won't kill you. Yeah it sucks, but there are far shittier things going on in the world to be upset about. I'm more pissy about the mass censorship trying to be implemented on the net right now. But that's just me. If I have to pay extra for my imports until I can switch everything over to BBTS or Amazon or something, then I'll deal with it.

>>11522299
>Moving to a country that will have less rights than you currently have in the US just so you can still buy toys.
Anon, this is the most pathetic thing I've ever read.

>>11522318
considering the country is rapidly transitioning into a police state you may not be giving up any rights at all

>>11522334
>The Orkin man is going too far to get rid of my roaches.

>>11522344
first they came

>>11522334
Lol, lmao even. Stop being such an over dramatic woman.

>>11522348
Boiling frog.

>>11522348
Applauding the death of democracy and the erosion of your rights just to own some mexicans, enjoy I guess.

>>11522350
Which rights have been taken away from you?

>>11522351
Ah yes, having to pay tariffs for your plastic army men is totally the death of democracy. Totally. You guys are such fuckin Karens I swear.

>>11522352
I'm transgender and I'd like to serve in the military.

>>11522354
It's hurting people unnecessarily you psychopath.

>>11522354
Keep moving your goalposts.

>>11522355
You're mentally ill and shouldn't have access to firearms. Deal with it. Also it's not a right to serve in the military you retard.

>>11522357
Care to elaborate?

>>11522358
What goalposts?

I find it hilarious that when I ask you faggots to specifically tell me how your rights are being taken away you can't. Retards. These weird 80/20 social issues have absolutely demolished the entire Democrat party.

>>11522357
A life without pain or inconvenience isn't possible, moron. Things that you don't want to happen will always happen as long as you're alive.

I'm so glad Americans cry how poor they are all the time

>>11522365
Why do you think half of them are turning to Communism? They think if the government just gives them everything for free, no one will be unhappy or uncomfy.

>>11522362
The second amendment gives me the right to defend my country.

>>11522318
>a country that will have less rights than you currently have in the U
The US isn't even in the Top 30 most free, he's got plenty of choice.

>>11522370
But it doesn't give you the right to serve in the actual military. There is no right for that. It's a privilege. Also, you forfeit your second amendment right when you decided to be mentally ill. Just stop being mentally ill and you can get access to firearms again.

>>11522352
Freedom.

why can't Americans make anything? Steady craftsman makes his own toys.

>>11522355
Trannies can't be in the military because it requires its soldiers to put their country above all else. no matter what. Troons are incapable of putting anything above their trannyism. It's the core of their identity and nothing else matters to them as long as they get to keep being trans. You made your choice.

>>11522364
Except this is 100% avoidable you boot licking moron.

>>11522407
I'm not licking anything, fucktard. I making sure that you understood that your "no don't hurt anyone!! uwu" shit you clearly have your cunt in a twist over isn't realistic. Yeah, it sucks, but trying to turn this into another empathy ploy like everything else you people do these days is nauseating.

Like half the reason I still live in this shit country was because we didn't have to deal with retarded stuff like customs fees all the time. Now I can't make fun of Europoors anymore. Well, I mean, I CAN. Just not for this.

>>11522315
god i hate this sentiment of "i'll own less things its fine" yeah it's no big deal, meanwhile trump lives in a gold plated penthouse and owns a 400 million dollar private jet from Qatar
>YES M'LORD ILL EAT ONE LESS MEAL A DAY SO YOU CAN SHIT IN A GOLDEN TOILET

>>11522393
Because wages in America make that cheap 25 dollar toy into something closer to 40-45 after labor costs. Americans are past the stage of mass factory slave labor, we still produce model kits and other toys in the states (Ertl surprisingly still exists), but again, cost of labor and materials would affect the cost of the toy itself.

Offshoring toys has been the way to go since the 50s and 60s.

>>11522478
I could give less of a fuck about toys if it meant cheaper necessities. So far gas is under 3 bucks a gallon and my grocery bill has gone down significantly.

Yeah customs fees are retarded, but I'm not the type of person to get a box from Japan every month. Unless you're a punished buyfag, this barely affects you.

>>11522413
I am torn. On one hand i want to laugh at this despicable attempt to claw back hegemony that was built on the slaughter of europe by decades of jewish policy and wars. On the other hand, I’m even more amused by the sheer retardation that you all display, thinking the parasites will actually restore any “manufacturing” of consequence that white folks can earn a decent wage in. Those manufacturing jobs will pay bottom dollar for hatians and mexicans like they always have.

>>11522485
I’m curious where you live and what you are buying that groceries are down, because that’s the exact opposite of my experience; prices are continuing to climb, not as fast as they were the last couple years but they certainly have not come down.

>>11522315
>>11522485
>xhe thinks more tariffs = more opportunities for us heckin muricans!
when the rug gets pulled underneath you to reveal beaners and poos, i will not be there to help you back up. actual magapede has escape containment

>>11521746
>da joooooooz!
>>>/pol/

>>11522485
Nice try Rajeesh, but prices are up everywhere in the US because of the fat orange turd pedo and his retarded tariff war. Country is fucked.

>>11521582 (OP)
Just need one more toy

>>11522315
I can be pissy about multiple things. I am mad about paying more for imports and fucking terrified by the mass censorship.
>>11522485
>Groceries
>Down
Where the fuck do you live where that is happening?

>>11521969
It was fake

I say good, this was long time coming. So far every other civilized country has had to pay sales tax on their imports and shipping. Only fair burgers pay their share.

>>11522392
Freedom isn't free.

>>11522315
>you can NEVER call out bullshit because there are starving kids in africa who have it way worse!

>>11522611
dom

>>11521582 (OP)
All can say is it could always be worse lol. I'm not in the US so you guys pay absurdly cheap prices compared to me. I haven't lowered myself to buying knock offs on AliExpress yet though.
Also for you it's at least tax income to pay for other shit you use as an American. Sometimes I think there is no real nationalist strategy and this is just a way to do a completely standard tax hike with a marketing campaign. I'm sure it'll all disappear as the march of tyranny continues, leaving just the memory of a massive waste of time invested in tormenting various finance and logistics teams around the world.

>>11522053
I'm okay with dropping bombs on brown children.

>>11522609
>>11522663
You get free healthcare. We used to get free toys. Now we get nothing.

>>11522194
Fighting just one burger over ten burgers is still a win for me.

>>11522717
It's just like playing the Y-Wing stages in Rogue Squadron on the N64.

>>11522717
>I'm okay with everything getting made in China
>NOOOOO DADDY TRUMP STOP TAXING MY TOYS NOOOOOO
this is the price you pay, no more porn either now go find a wife and start a family

What's the best alternative for HLJ?

>>11522856
All import sites are basically out of reach for the US customer for whom money matters now. It isn't like the tariffs are only on hlj

>>11522393
Because you are allowed to breathe.

Bы зa этo гoлocoвaли.

>>11522856
BBTS

We Americans voted for this in November 2024. We are getting what we deserve. Can't say it wasn't earned. We voters knew what Trump was like and voted for him again. Can't say we were blindsided this time.

>>11523083
Look on the bright side though, good thing:

WE

>(shitskin repeatedly stabs a guy who minded his own business on a bus)

SAVED

>proposed laws for massive internet censorship

AMERICA

>cop shoots guy for not cutting grass short enough on his own property

Anyways guys, what's the price of figures after these new tariffs and taxes?

>$200

It's over.

>>11523083
The two-party system in the US is basically all a sham anyway. They all lie, cheat, and steal and the vast majority of things both parties do anyway, and then hide when they do it, and then blame the other side when the other side gets caught doing it.. Nobody votes anymore because they actually believe in what one candidate or the other is doing, they're pretty much all voting just to keep the other guy out. Neither Biden nor Kamala seemed to actually have any sort of plan or policy they were running on, they basically ran on the "we're not Trump." And they fucked up so bad during Biden's administration that people wanted no more of that, so they were willing to vote in a guy who is an openly crooked con artist who has done nothing but bankrupt his businesses.

The US needs an actual, moderate third party/independent to get in to show that the Liberals and Conservatives need to knock their shit off. And it looks kind of like that may be a growing movement, because now there are just as many voters that are registered independents as there are Dems or Republicans. They just need to actually vote independently.

>>11523149
6 businesses out of 500

I'm not happy, but isn't this all still less than what europoors have to pay for these things?

Higher toy prices will be worth it when Trump abolishes anti-white laws such as "age of consent". Cat killers hate more white babies being born.

>>11523189
Is this seriously a law they're trying to pass?

>>11522482
The money saved on logistics and automation would largely offset most price increases, especially considering how hyper inflated prices of modern western designed figures have become. America made toys stateside into the early 90's, ones that were often cheaper than those made overseas.

>>11523372
Companies aren't gonna lower prices because of automation. They'll be more expensive and if more automated create fewer jobs lol.

>>11523189
Everything being done now is to reprogram the masses to be willing to accept war and its consequences

>>11523376
So, nothing has changed since the 1950s.

They've been scaremongering about this for half a year now and nothing ever happens. Even BBTS who's on the forefront of it all is too pussy to actually charge anything extra when the bill comes due. The worst case scenario is I cancel all my preorders and end up with more money than i know what to do with.

>>11523621
When you get the notice from your shipping company that you owe another $80 on an import figure you already paid $160 for, then you'll finally believe things can happen. I assure you that actions do have consequences in the world, regardless of what you have been led to believe.

>>11523756
>Trump is gonna make Japan pay for over charging toys

fucking hell. so TLDR: don't preorder anything and if you want something from overseas buy it now. can this year stop sucking?

>>11523621
It's amazing how stupid some of you are.

>>11523621
It's going to be funny when you get assraped by "hidden" charges and then come here to bitch about it.

That is, if you're not being assraped by all the Indians Elon is importing to run his mobile shitbox car company, or by Muslims during the war in the ME Donny the pedophile is going to send you retard zoomzooms into.

How does this affect buying used on Mandarake? I usually waited 2-3 months for stuff and wound up saving a bunch buying used aka Japanese new.

>>11524239
This is how you get the poor to willingly sign up for the military
>>11523376
This is how you get the gullible to sign up for the military

We’re going to war.

>>11524300
Add 80 bucks. That's the change.

>>11524341
That's an awful lot for imported toys that may not even be worth $80 itself. That'd be a 100% tariff

>>11524239
Soooo, we're fucked.

Most families can't take this.

>>11524239
Googling that I can find no record of that quote. Citation needed.

>>11524931
Import toys are not a necessity, suck itup.

>>11524922
If it's an eight dollar figure it's an 800% tarrif.

>>11524977
Fuck off fash

>>11524977
This. Yeah, it sucks that we have to pay more for luxury goods that no one is forcing us to buy, but it's hardly the end of the world that guys like >>11524993 make it seems like.

>>11524977
>>11525004
Okay, but how is the US benefiting from these tariffs?

>>11525010
make your own toys

>>11525010
you get to give Uncle Sam even more of your money, winning

>>11525010
We will make our own figmas. They will be better quality and not be assembled by Chinese labor. Bring Back american manufacturing

>>11525010
By pressuring companies to move from overseas manufacturing to domestic. What should have been done is make it illegal for these companies to pass the buck to the consumer. Yeah, I know they have to make money too, but if it really is intended to punish those manufacturing overseas, shouldn't they be the ones to be, ya know, punished?

>>11525024
>What should have been done is make it illegal for these companies to pass the buck to the consumer
Not a bad idea, but how would that work for a company like BBTS that doesn’t actually make anything and just imports? It’s not like they can force those companies to come over here.
Either way, no company is going to move manufacturing here, by the time they could even start doing it here his term would be almost over and whoever is next will surely drop the tariffs almost immediately. And that’s if he doesn’t drop them by Christmas, because otherwise kids might not get shit this year.

>>11525010
Based on the latest leaks from the White House, by forcing other countries to reject climate change initiatives, pull out of DEI, and spend more money on their own defenses. In other words your guess is as good as mine.

>>11525030
>but what about wholesome and precious little bbts how am I as an American going to buy from them and look forward to that heckin little pile of loot service I've come to expect?

>>11525037
Fine I’ll admit it, I laughed

>>11525030
>Not a bad idea, but how would that work for a company like BBTS that doesn’t actually make anything and just imports?
It would probably depend on the manufacturer like Bandai or Hasbro and what they decide to do with their factories. Probably wouldn't make a difference for Japanese import figures though.

>>11525036
>do everything possible to destroy the world
>but hey we may maybe make the UK or Soain spend 0.0000001% more on missiles to blow up ice gorilla's or sand people

Wow this was surely worth every single increase to the cost of living.

>>11525023
This is extremely naive. The tariffs would need to be far higher to force American manufacturing of toys, and what would likely happen is just US toys as we know them would change (not be high POA action figures I assure you) and/or no longer be sold here because people would not be willing to pay the cost. Products only exist because people are willing to pay the cost of their manufacturing, shipping, taxes, and a bit of profit. Chinese labor costs are still far, far lower than American ones thus it is still cheaper to make toys in China.

What might instead happen is eventually some country that has low tariff rates on the US and low wages would see businesses start factories and begin importing toys to the US from there. But that is unlikely given these tariffs are not law but executive order made under the guise of an "emergency" that can be removed in 4 years. So it would not be a good investment to undertake an endeavor as costly as starting a factory just due to that. Same reason why toy factories wont be set up in the US really.

>>11525024
>What should have been done is make it illegal for these companies to pass the buck to the consumer.
This mindset comes from a well meaning place because corporations are fake, artificial "people" under the law that de facto exist only to profit off the suffering of actual, real people. But it is impossible to do. Rules and regulations have unintended consequences. The unintended consequence of this would be companies no longer selling toys to Americans because they could not make a profit without passing the tariffs on to the consumer. Toy stores would end up closing as they would no longer be financially viable. Companies would have to be nationalized to do this and then the nation would have to begin losing money, because businesses are not going to willingly lose money because you want them to operate their business in a foolish way, like manufacturing toys in the US, or not passing costs onto consumers.

>>11525036
How is trying to not fuck over the environment a bad thing? lol

>>11524977
Imagine rich people telling you to eat shit and you do do it gladly. While they're golfing and laughing at you. Fucking wild, man.

>>11525528
Golfing is better for you than collecting toys. At least golfing gets you to go outside.

>>11525537
You ride a little cart and hit a ball. It's not strenuous in the least.

>>11525528
They tell you to be happy to suffer because it's "good" for you. That's how it's always been. Oh you can't live a good life? Well see, you're a better person ~on the inside~ because you struggle.

so if I've been on the fence about something that'd ship from overseas do I need to pull the trigger now to avoid getting fucked over?

>>11525550
What would be good for me is if more of the rich shit heads got mama mia'd.

>>11525545
It is for overweight people.

t. an overweight person

>>11525552
It's too late. Any tariffs will be there before you receive it. Enjoy your $80 tax plus tip, courtesy of the orange fuckwit.

>>11525545
It really doesn't need to be when compared to buying plastic effigies to funny book characters from the 40s.

>>11525552
You should be fine if you order express shipping

>>11525584
Would it have made you feel better if I said
>Rich tell poor be happy life harder while they laugh and do rich thing.

>>11525593
Paying more for your import figures isn't making life harder bro.

>>11525595
Tariffs raising prices of everything including resources we don't have in America is, bruh. You're right though, the wealthy truly care about us.

>>11525595
It literally is. It's affecting everyone, not just for toys and shit.

I'd say I'll be saving money not buying as much stuff if at all, but I would be lying because shit's just getting more expensive overall. Maybe I'll start collecting guns instead, I'm starting to think I'd rather just kill myself then keep living to see how much more freedoms I can have taken away from me.

>>11525618
But America has so much respect now! Don't you feel that every time you pay $80 more for your toys?

China tariffs locked at 30% until November as of a couple hours ago

>>11525807
That doesn't affect de minimis though.

>>11525814
no, just figured it was relevant to anyone importing

>Israel installed a puppet to destroy us
>neo-Nazis like the kike puppet

>>11525807
I thought the "55%" was puffery and it was 30% for China?

>>11521582 (OP)
So if I'm understanding this, HLJ is charging an extra $80 dollars on top of the shipping fee?

>>11526027
Isn't this retarded to anyone else?

>>11526041
It's retarded to everyone except the fucking retard who did it, so blame the orange cunt and his retard followers for this shit.

>>11526041
It's extremely so.

>>11525618
You have just made a post that has been flagged for potential [Distressing content], agents have been dispatched to your location, and your next post will require age verification.

International free trade was one of the last great things left in this country. Aren't Republicans supposed to be the small government free market guys? This feels like big government market restrictions.

>>11526064
It makes no sense after we made a billion something dollar deal with Japan already regarding US steel. Bad enough shipping already went up.

>american crying over $800 de mininis
>Rest of the world literally have to pay import fee regardless of the price since like forever
>BUT MUH FREEDOM?!

American really? $800? That is like one month of salary in like 80% of the world. And you really expect the government not tax it and just let thing goes?

Man , for all the cry about not meeting the world standard, the seconds the us government finally did something the rest of the world does and people starts to cry over it. Are you people for real?

>>11526064
Neither the left nor the right give two fucks about this country and the common people/middle class/center/moderates/etc. All the give a shit about is blocking everything the other side wants to do, just out of principal, and undoing anything and everything the last opposite party administration did.

The current administration and the Supreme Court are already rolling pretty much everything back by nearly half a century, may as well roll trade back a full century too, while we're at it.

>>11526106
Your post shows you have not a fucking clue as to what you're even talking about.

>>11526106
That makes no sense. The rest of the world does retarded extra charges so we should just accept it? Fuck that.

>>11526106
You don't seem to understand....anything

>>11526106
lol anon the rules before were
>under $800: no fee
>$800 or more: fee
I don't even know what the fee was but some anons showed it was pretty expensive. I never shipped anything that high before.
Now it is:
>under $800: 15% plus $80, I don't care if it was a $10 package fork it over
>$800 or over: lol don't make me repeat myself
And that is using our main carrier system. If you use others its 15% plus whatever they probably want.
This could all change again.
And the people going 'laugh at the Americans now you know how we feel' are totally misguided and foolish. Hooray we now pay our country more for buying from other countries. I am sure this won't impact other countries importing fees in any way knowing that a huge country like the USA is either willing to pay more or is willing to reduce exporting so other countries now have to compensate for the reduction *wink wink nudge nudge* Hooray everyone loses! Yay lets all clap and laugh!

>>11526107
>pretty much everything back by nearly half a century
i wish.

>>11526147
Unclaimed mail sales are about to get more interesting, kek.

>>11521582 (OP)
*laughs in European*

>thread expectantly devolves into political sperg out
>technically off topic
>still up
Apparently off topic polshit is okay if you're sperging about Trump.

>>11526442
I mean his stupid unhinged tariffs are ruining the hobby amongst other things so it's not completely off topic.

>>11526442
Yeah the janny here has a clear bias. I've been banned for saying negative things about trannies. I imagine this post will be nuked sooner or later.

>>11526483
Only in America. Rest of the world is doing fine.

>>11526106
We aren't other countries, we're the FUCKING UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

>>11526619
America is the only country that matters.

>>11526442
>>11526619
Americans make up a significant percentage of 4chan's userbase and are affected by these changes. not to mention prices from American toy companies like Hasbro and Mattel are set to increase. it shouldn't be difficult to understand why this is relevant to toy discussion.

>>11526442
I’m sure the retrospam thread that fell off the board for this one was a huge loss

>>11526619
Hardly. The tariff shit will affect you too. Doesn't have to be directly.

>>11529057
kek

Does this stuff affect gifts? My friend already moved to Japan to teach English for a few years. I’m storing his belongings in my garage and my spare bedroom I usually keep my boxes from my toys. In exchange he was going to send me stuff from Japan I wanted. It was going to be marked gift obviously.

>>11525610
I’ve seen several video games companies in European areas suspending shipments already to the US already. Play Asia is gonna take a big hit.

I saw some people who were planning on doing buying runs to HK and Japan to bring back stuff to sell. I’m sure they figure out a way for that to bite them in the ass.

>>11531452
Supposed to be all parcels.

Have they ever explained why foreign toys are a danger to the American economy?

>>11531594
They haven't because it isn't. The idea is that if they can get enough money from tariffs, they can do away with income tax. It's just a ploy to move the tax burden from the rich to the poor and what's left of the middle class. It has nothing to do with bringing back manufacturing, since you can't import the machinery or materials you would need to get started without getting raped by tariffs.

?

>>11531824
God I'm so hard.

>>11521722
The actual reason is to curb fentanyl trafficking, and aliexpress/temu abusing deminimis to ship their toxic waste lead poisoning clothes instead of doing shipments and warehouses like a regular company. Deminimis stuff doesnt go through thorough customs inspection like everything else, apparently china was using that to send fent to the zombies out here.

>>11531826
China was doing you a favour to get rid of all those willing to over dose.

>>11531827
Based. Too bad politicians don't get it.

>>11531824
Boy it sure is fun watching everything collapse faster and faster.

>>11531841
Just make your own toys

>>11531842
They also collapse faster and faster, I'm not good at it.

>>11531824
Why no news article about it?

>>11531889
Either it's either not real, overblown or will be changed.

>>11531896
Or you're completely wrong. As usual.

>>11531902
>As usual
It seems like you've confused me with some other anon. I'm just stating what I think. It's awfully odd that such a massive thing as HALTING EVERY SINGLE SHIPMENT isn't being talked about.

>>11531902
NTA but why if this was already known at USPS and DHL would there not already be news articles about it?

>>11526619
If you're importing toys maybe. But if you're just ordering stuff from BBTS there's tariff fees all over the place. I wish they could ship them from China instead.

>>11531824
Yeah! That'll show...uh...us!

>>11531912
Welcome to Orangeland.

>>11531915
>stuff from BBTS
There are countless websites to buy shit from you brain damaged retard

>>11531919
Not anymore there isn't

>>11531919
I see none that are cheaper for figures like NECA, Super7. I assume because stock is shipped back to the US first regardless. Secondly they're reliable and the pile of loot matters when you'd otherwise get fucked on international shipping for multiple figures.

>>11531928
Aliexpress is better than bbts

>>11531824
I voted for this!

>>11531934
I use it a ton for diy stuff but just with figures I'm fine with paying a few bucks more to know it's the real deal. I did buy some Ben Cooper figures from it recently though, they look legit enough.

>>11531917
The country exporting it is supposed to pay it. But there's nothing making sure they do this instead of customers.

>>11531934
Yep, Papa Ali has saved me plenty of money with NECA purchases

>>11532071
Tariffs raise the price of goods. China was never going to pay the crazy tariffs. It was always going to be the consumer. Why this is so hard for certain people to understand is beyond me. Being told you will have less while the rich will have more, and applauding it, is insane.

>>11532129
We're gonna bring back manufacturing to America. It's more important than cheap toys.

>>11532132
No you aren't. I can guarantee you that not a single toy factory will open on American soil during the rest of Donnie's term. You probably still think the invasion of Iraq was actually about Saddam's WMDs too, you naive fool.

>>11532129
>China was never going to pay the crazy tariffs. It was always going to be the consumer.
Then people will stop buying from China. China can pay it, or lose business because no customer wants to pay over $100 to import cheap toxic trash. That was kind of the point of pressuring them with this, wasnt it? Lose lose for them.

I do not give a shit about chinese crap, I'll just buy toys from anyone else.

>>11522162
They are just going to order less shit themselves knowing their customer base will take a hit.

>>11532180
>no customer wants to pay over $100 to import cheap toxic trash.
You make it sound like consumers haven't been swallowing price rises for years and yet continue to come back. Sure, some will priced out, but many will just accept this as the new norm like paying exclusive/aftermarket prices and that will be that.

>>11532132
I truly hope you're trolling and don't believe such lies so easily.

>>11532180
Only China and Vietnam make super articulatied figures

>>11532146
Yes I'm sure you are a deeply connected investor who is well informed of the next steps with the american economy that you are capable of telling all of us here about the long term economic plans for the future. And it just so happens to be all TDS Doom by total coincidence.

I like to think the men at the top of the Federal government have a bit more knowledge in transplanting manufacturing and a long term plan that begins with tariffs than some random basement dweller posting anonymously on a Cambodian fishing forum.

>>11532475
>thinks it's possible to build a factory that makes components with precision tolerances in 3 years
>has faith in politicians
Yeah, you are retarded.

>>11532475
No investor with a brain would invest in a dying industry like action figures.

>>11532538
>dying industry like action figures
weird how it's thriving in Asia

>>11532539
Once the US market is lost, they will take a major revenue hit compared to what they are used to. I wouldn't invest for that reason alone even if probably will get through it. There's definitely more potential for the actual manufacturers of action figures in Asia, rather than parasitic companies like Hasbro, Mattel, etc who just hold licenses, sculpt and promote but have no idea how to actually do the manufacturing. Although shady shit might prevent western investors from giving Chinese or Vietnamese manufacturers any look, and especially since they'd still be rather risky since the government can easily seize whatever it wants on a whim there.

>>11532551
*they probably will

>>11532529
even chinks have trouble with that

Can we not sue the government to reempliment things?

>>11532475
You’d like to believe it, but you’d be wrong!
>>11534310
Vote harder.

>>11534310
Government has infinite money how do you sue them?

>>11534310
There is no case for a lawsuit unless it is struck down in appeals. If that happens you can be damn sure businesses are going to sue to get their money back if Trump doesn’t immediately write them a check.

So if something reaches customs on the 30th you will have to pay duties? What if it’s going to be delivered by USPS? How would they collect that $80-200?

>>11534456
No one knows for sure because we don't have the infrastructure for collecting them at this scale. Most likely you'll get a notice on your door or on the tracking site saying you owe x amount and have to go pay it at the post office.

>>11534332
Still fun to see the legal losses of the current administration go up.

>>11525024
>>11525030

Retard shouldn't be allowed a voice in public spaces

>>11531826
>The actual reason is to curb fentanyl trafficking

>Believing propaganda at face value.

>>11532475
>I like to think the men at the top of the Federal government have a bit more knowledge in transplanting manufacturing

Believing this about the 2nd Trump admin is unreal. You should be sterilized so no other retard babies can pass on your inferior retard genes

>>11532539
They have all the infrastructure and decades worth of expertise. Things you can't replicate in a fiscal quarter you fucking moron

>>11534456
>>11534500
I suspect that's what will happen, at least initially. I have a feeling I'm gonna find out. Bought something over a week ago and got the faster shipping because of the 29th. Damn Nihonjin still hasn't shipped, kek.

>>11534500
>we don't have the infrastructure for collecting them at this scale
Can't they just set up a payment portal on the USPS website and when it reaches either customs or your local post office, you get an email where you have to pay to have it delivered. I feel like it wouldn't be that hard to implement. Not that I want them to because this shit sucks but just thinking.
>Most likely you'll get a notice on your door or on the tracking site saying you owe x amount and have to go pay it at the post office
Man that would be so retarded I hope this shit somehow goes away soon

>>11534617
I was thinking about putting in one last order but it's highly unlikely it would clear customs before the 29th. I ended up just paying a little extra and getting from a US reseller instead of taking the risk of getting fucked with the extra 80-200. I'm still holding out on cancelling my other preorders. I think my earliest one is October or November so I'm hoping by then something changes

So Gundamit said there will be no tax for people who order from the US and I have a package on the way from them. Am I safe?

>>11534456
>usps
At the post office before collection
>fedex/ups/DHL
You'll be sent an email with a payment link and a banner will be placed on their website when you check your tracking number with a link.

>>11534737
DHL may also not send your package past its distribution centers to your local branch until payment is received so that they can more easily send it back should you not pay.

>>11534734
If it ends up in the American mail system prior to the 29th most likely.

>>11534737
We have to stop this bullshit

>>11534699
>Can't they just set up a payment portal on the USPS website and when it reaches either customs or your local post office, you get an email where you have to pay to have it delivered. I feel like it wouldn't be that hard to implement. Not that I want them to because this shit sucks but just thinking.

No, because the explicit problem is that they now have to open and inspect all packages that go through customs, largely because of the elimination of De Minimus. Before, all of that shit passed through with no checks and very little paperwork.

The problem is doing all this with the sheer volume of smaller packages that pass through customs on a daily basis.

>>11534747
Why would they have to open them when they can tell from the shipping label it's an imported package and thus requiring duty payment?

>>11534743
That particular one was because of the 140+ percent china tarif. All the items in it were purchased long before the tariffs were announced and shipped before they were in effect.

>>11534751
Because people can, and have lied about what's in the box. On top of it, the issue is still doing paperwork for millions more packages than they previously had to, even if they don't have to open them.

>>11534740
afaik its not going through the US Mail, its going through something called ACI Logistix

>>11534310
Why don't you just move it China?

>>11533405
That's what baffles me with people that think these toy factories are just going to magically pop up overnight because of the tariff situation. Even the chinks with their complete lack of construction standards and OSHA concerns would barely be able to get a fully operable toy factory capable of producing figures of half decent quality in that time. I totally understand Trump's rationale behind the tariffs and the idea of bringing manufacturing jobs back to th US, but the way he has gone about it has been myopic.

>>11534755
They are not going to open more of these packages than they already do because there’s no staff for it. The plan, according to the logistics discussions that have been happening, is that they’re going to force international shippers to either submit a photograph of the item, the webpage it was bought from, or a bill of the transaction. All of these things are obviously easily faked if you actually want to mail illicit substances, so it won’t stop shit, and in the meanwhile no one will be doing any of this as the administration is flying by the seat of their pants and trying to implement it too early so everyone’s just going to be stuck eating the $80 fee for months probably.

>>11534789
Why don't you just move to Russia?

>>11534751
Because lying communists lie about what's in the box and we are trying to stop the flow of illegal fentanyl from entering the country.
Nobody gives a shit if that makes your cheap plastic slop take an extra day or two longer to get to your shelf to never be touched ever again.

>>11535442
>we are trying to stop the flow of illegal fentanyl from entering the country.
lol

So many great back to school deals on AliExpress this week. They're literally giving stuff away. Made me feel bad for those who can't get these discounts.

>>11535503
Any examples of good deals?

>>11535442
>lying communists lie about what's in the box and we are trying to stop the flow of illegal fentanyl from entering the country.
Great point. Only the CIA should be allowed to flood the streets of the country with highly addictive dangerous drugs.

>>11535442
What a crazy world you must live in that you believe this.

Hobby Genki suspended Fedex

>>11536182
Cooooool. We're soooooo wiinning!

I miss when Republicans rightfully hated tariffs.

NECA’s shipping costs have gotten ridiculous with this tariff nonsense. I wanted the Dante Inferno diorama but that’s out the window now.

>>11536257
The shipping cost isn't affected. There's just a flat tariff fee, which tells me you didn't try to order anything and you're just shitposting.

>>11536206
You will be thanking Trump within a years time when manufacturing returns to the US.

>>11536277
No shit dude, it’s still expensive.

>>11536522
lol

>>11536522
I want cheap Chinese toys, not expensive us toys

>>11536523
It's as much as it should be to ship something that large.

Curious what 1/6 figures are going to start costing now. I still haven't gotten a shipping notification from Sideshow on my Threezero Noi and if that order doesn't get fulfilled I swear to fucking god.

>>11536522
>manufacturing returning to US within a year
el oh el
everyone is already moving production to india to avoid chinese tariffs. US manufacturing will never return because americans dont want to work manufacturing jobs

>>11536522
I hope someone rapes you the same way Trump raped underaged girls with Epstein

>>11536723
You are a deeply disturbed individual.

>>11536723
Man is he really gonna get away with that shit? Like we all know he did it. Won't the girls ever come forward or did he have them killed already or something

>>11536811
>Won't the girls ever come forward

They killed the one victim who wasn't anonymous and vocal. Look up Virginia Giuffre. Doubt anymore Jane Doe's will want to step forward now.

>>11536808
Trump Supporters get what they deserve

>>11536816
>Trump Supporters get what they deserve
Winning?

>>11536819
>Not even a full year in office
>Everything is more expensive
>Economy in shambles and getting worse
>No more importing

And all you faggots lick his nuts as he shits in your eyes and send him a thank you card after

>>11536830
Cope.

>>11536830
You are psycho and this is the reason why your father wont talk to you. But please continue to be unhinged. I'm fine with more conservatives winning elections because of the retardation of faggots like you.

>>11536830
Gas is currently 30 cents cheaper than the lowest it was under Biden, so if stuff like food is still more expensive it's because of greed.

>>11522004
damn I remember this. Too bad I have nowhere to bug out to. Thankful that I almost only buy Mattel and they're almost done with heman vintage.

>>11536849
>Literally the one commodity the president has no price control over
>6th graders know this

>>11536837
"I'm happy to pay more and get less! I love my Pedophile President!"

I bet you'd let a dog fuck you up the ass if you were told it would "own da libs"

>>11536849
>it's because of greed.

EVERYTHING is going to be more expensive because Trump doesn't understand global trade you rat fucking appalachian pajeet

>>11536864
Brainless leftoids like yourself have done nothing but support pedophiles for the last ten years when you decided to start calling them "M.A.P.S." to garner more sympathy for them.

If Trump was really a pedophile like you claim, you and all your dress wearing fat sissy boyfriends would be falling over yourselves to support him.

>I bet you'd let a dog fuck you up the ass if you were told it would "own da libs"

Last time I checked, furries are on the faggot spectrum as well.

>>11536865
>source: le reddit bro

>>11536864
I do think it's funny their argument went from protect the kids to “eh let's lower the legal age of consent lol“ in less than a years time. Quite solid convictions they have.

>>11536811
While he will get away with it much like Nixon, you can take some comfort that at this point the scandal is already his legacy and a big part of what will be written about him when he’s gone. They can try to cover it up all they want but it’s too late to stop it from being tied to him, there’s too much evidence for it and by hiding it the way they have been by redacting all mention of him in the files, the conspiracy theories will only grow like they did with JFK.

>https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx2p17xypgko

>While gifts worth less than $100 will remain duty-free, the changes mean all other packages will face the same tariff rate as other goods from their country of origin.

>The new rule does not affect personal items Americans carry with them from foreign travel valued at $200 or less and it does not affect gifts valued at $100 or less.

so you can still get stuff if it's under $100? What determines a gift?

>>11537428
If their is a bill of sale for the item, it isn't a gift.

>>11537428
If an item is declared as a gift when shipped, it’s a gift. You’d need to know someone there or find a small time proxy shipper willing to mark things as a gift to take advantage of this.

>>11536864
Dead cats

So things are going to get horrible real fast with the news today...

>>11537599
I just want to the economy to collapse and this retarded country to fall apart.

>>11537599
What happened?

>>11537730
Lady who helped traffic kids said Dumpy was wholesome and perfect so she'll get a pardon and nobody who did anything horrid to the children will see any repercussions.

>>11531889
>>11531902
>>11531914
bros wtf this was supposed to be fake news https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx2p17xypgko

>>11538113
Well they're getting what they wanted. The US is becoming an island that nobody will ship to or accept shit from. We will fester and die.

>>11538113
Why will only bbc report on it? Is there a black out on this topic in major us media?

Singpost is stopping service to the US at the end of the month too.

>>11538292
mainstream America media doesn't have journalists anymore (just commentators) so actual news had to wait for the AP to write the story for them to reuse https://apnews.com/article/us-tariffs-goods-services-suspension-85c7b36b9e92c0e640dfe2ac418cd907

>>11538343
Everyone halting shipments to US is kind of a big deal right? Hopefully that makes reversing this stuff a possibility

>>11538495
One would think. I thought DHL had ceased sending here, but i got a package from Japan carried by them the other day. Gor one today came Japan Post. US Customs opened and inspected it, kek.

i see its a total war here as per usual

>>11538343
Boy, it sure feels great being a fucking pariah country!

>>11537934
Gobbless Amurrica!

>>11531472
The current wording specifically exempts personal gifts under $100. Shops like HLJ or Amiami won't mark things for lower value or as gifts because that is illegal. But a friend in Japan can do that, as long as there are mail carriers that will deliver the package. It seems like there might just be a blanket hold until Trump renegotiates, like he does constantly.

>>11538113

Why are they going nuts over this like they don't get what to do? De Minimus was already ended for China and they still handle those packages. So just do what is done for current Chinese packages except for the rest of the world.

>>11539223
Tbh did China even handle it correctly? For example many Aliexpress listings state the price you pay includes tariff duties. But doesn't that mean those duty payements are going to the seller and Aliexpress rather than the US customs/government?

>>11539331
apparently the seller can pay tariffs or partner with some logistics company to do it i guess, since i just got a preorder that i made before any of this madness from gundamit and they paid everything.

>>11539331
when a package is shipped, the shipper can select to pay the duty fees themselves or write that you owe them, most stores obviously don't want to deal with this shit since it is constantly changing, so they're dumping it on the customer to get charged for it after it already ships

Does this affect things like Transformers at Amazon/BBTS?

>>11522107
Unfortunately, my aim's not good enough to solve the problem of politicians.

>>11539516
You won't have to worry about any surprise charges when using US sites who have already imported the product. It only applies when you import it yourself.

Good riddance, more space for retrospam.

>>11522318
What rights would I be giving up if I left the US exactly? All I do is eat, sleep, watch stuff, buy toys, play video games, and fuck my girlfriend. I don't think I can lose any of that by living somewhere else.

Some sites I buy from as a mark as gift option. Would it be cheaper to send stuff in multiple packages marked as gift rather than packing $1000 worth of stuff together and toughing out tariffs?

>nin-nin game is suspending all shipping to th US
Lol. Lmao.

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>>11540362
>>11540362