Thread 11529349

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Previous thread: >>11519834
Snake Lair currently funding through Aug 28th on MC. MOTU Collectors drop on Aug 26th. $$. Likely MV Dlx Moss Man.

Origins/Cartoon Collection:
>Announced at SDCC: Snake Lair, Dragstor, Sting-Or, and 200X retail refresh.
>FRIGHT ZONE available for pre-order on BBTS and EE. BBTS Shipping pre-orders now.
>Bow, Shadow Weaver, and Whiplash coming.
>Sharella, Despara, Hurricane Hordak, Vultak, He-Ro, Rio Blast and Geldor all STILL available on Mattel Creations.
>Sketchbook Sy-Klone is available. Sketchbook Spikor coming soon
>Two-Bad is confirmed sculpted but remains unrevealed.
>1 MORE Preternia character confirmed.
>Battle for Eternia 4 pack in stock on BBTS (pre-sold out on EE).
>MotU x Transformers crossover.
>CC Swift Wind/She-Ra on MC in September.

Masterverse:
>Announced at SDCC: Mantenna, Mosquitor, Dragstor, Despara, AE He-Man, Keldor.
>40th Anniversary She-Ra, Terror Claws Skeletor, Ninjor and Blade shipping.
>NE Hordak, Teela and Kobra Khan and vintage style Stratos coming soon.
>Panthor released on Mattel Creations February 11, STILL in stock.
>MV NE Moss Man confirmed for Mattel Creations this year.

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TQ: Have you backed Snake Lair?

>>11529349 (OP)
Will mattel ever make nu she-ra figures for origins or masterverse?

>>11529349 (OP)
>TQ
Nope. I feel like it's overpriced for what comes in it.

>>11529355
Would.
>>11529352
Would not.

TQ: Not for $300. MAYBE for $150, but I don't even know where it fits in the universe.

>>11529352
No, because Mattel would have to pay Universal royalties.

>>11529365
>don't even know where it fits in the universe.

It's Lady Slithers base from Preternia.
Thats why they give you a skeleton figure of her, because in modern day Slither is long dead and a revenant
>Just ignore that minicomics showed Slither alive in current year

>TQ
No. It's over $500 plus shipping in Canada. I'd rather buy one of those South American KO playsets someonenposted last thread.

>>11529352
I could see them making She-ra and Catra as an exclusive if the lines last long enough. The rest of the cast, no way.

>>11529365
>No, because Mattel would have to pay Universal royalties.
Has that ever been confirmed or is that all speculative hogwash?

>>11529371
>It's Lady Slithers base from Preternia.
>Thats why they give you a skeleton figure of her, because in modern day Slither is long dead and a revenant
OK, that makes sense. It was her base when she was an enemy of He-Ro and Moss Man (just ignore that the Snakes bullying Extendar).

>Just ignore that minicomics showed Slither alive in current year
Right, that's confusing.

>>11529382
You know, I can't find evidence of that. It could be that Mattel has toy rights in perpetuity to any new designs of characters named She-Ra, Catra, etc. created by artists hired by the owners of the She-Ra media rights. I don't think anyone has publicly posted the legal contract drawn up in the mid-80s that made those rights so confusing.

>>11529382
I believe on my copy of the minicomics collection that the fine print says DreamWorks owns She-Ra and etc.

Also I would trust that 10 years ago when Scott worked at Mattel, I could see Universal owning PoP. He said if that wasn't true why did he send them license fees? And that rings true.

But do they STILL own PoP or did Mattel buy it back? That's where it would get speculative.

Can we clarify the current lore for Preternia?
The Three Towers were there. Lady Slither had the Snake Lair as a base.
In Origins He-Ro's minicomic, when he was young, the Great Black Wizard was around with a base called the Ebon Fortress, and Rattlor and Tung Lashor were seen working for him instead of King Hiss or Lady Slither.

>>11529392
>trusting scott
>ever
Hue

I think it's still canon for Origins that Snake Mountain was present in Preternia and King Hiss took it for his throne.

>>11529374
>The rest of the cast, no way.
I would want slampig glimmer for nefarious reasons

>>11529355
Hopefully this means making some headway on getting through the list

After her, I most want big brain, witch, Wrap Trap, Dylamug, Tank Top, yeti guy and archer girl, but I'll settle for even half of those

>>11529355
Her feet are the female version of Origins Beast Man and Stratos's.
Maybe they could reuse them for a "barefoot" Delora.

You know what bothers me about the Thundercats line? If they gave Lion-O Eternia armor why didn't they give He-Man Cat's Lair armor?

>>11529407
The one thing I find too awkward is Horde symbols on bare shins. Like, I know the concept art did it that way, but I always assumed an actual figure would put shin guards on her like Leech has to print the symbol on.
Hopefully the actual figure will do that even if it's not in Axels art. Minor changes from art to toy happen a bit. Like Stingor's toy at SDCC had green eyes where his art aways had red

>>11529349 (OP)
I can't in principle back it because of the $300 price. Even with the snorse I don't see the value there. I barely want the playset anyways, I mostly want the accessories and figures. I wish Mattel would release those instead.

>>11529413
Could be something like those traditional hawaiian tattoos. Or just Hordak staking his claim.

>>11529358
>Would not.
It's okay, I would.

>>11529399
Oh yeah, its much more reliable to trust some rando on 4chan with a hate boner.

>>11529421
>Hordak staking his claim.

>>11529446
NTA but Scott talks shit constantly, and while he definitely has more industry experience, the way he touts his credentials sounds a lot like PirateSoftware's "I worked at Blizzard for 7 years" bullshit, and he acts as if he knows every in and out of the entire MOTU and Mattel legal corporate structure. The guy was saying that Mattel were just straight up losing the license to MOTU in 2023 because he claimed that Mattel didn't own MOTU at all and it was all owned by Universal.

>>11529399
>>11529455
Ha! The Mighty Spector would never lie.

>>11529402
>I would want slampig glimmer

Pig Head is so great compared to the other Rulers.

>>11529409
Central Tower armor.

>>11529455
And I've said before, whatever he says was probably true when he worked there. But a lot can change in a decade.
If anything he should have used more lawyer speak like "based on how things were when I worked at Mattel, this could be a problem."

Besides last thread someone was saying that Mattel purposely is half assing She-Ra related stuff so they can buy it back from Universal cheaper than if there were successful toys in shelves. No one was calling bullshit on that rumor. Everyone was like oh yeah that makes a lot of sense.
But anything that comes from the former brand manager must be met with suspicion.

>>11529477
>And I've said before, whatever he says was probably true when he worked there. But a lot can change in a decade.
Okay, you’re now arguing like Michael was in that infamous Scott debate.

>>11529464
I think the fact that his donutsteel is just a Deadpool knock-off bugs me more than anything else.

>>11529478
I dont know what that refers to.
But tell me why its wrong. Scott's views are based on what was true when he worked there but things can change.

>>11529477
>And I've said before, whatever he says was probably true when he worked there. But a lot can change in a decade.
From everything I've looked into, the basis for Scott's claim is that when he was running Classics they needed to send royalty checks to Universal, because Mattel sold the rights to MOTU to Hallmark in the 90s, which eventually Universal bought Universal. This is not what happened. What happened was Filmation got bought out by Hallmark, along with everything they owned, which included the original He-Man cartoon, so anything introduced in the cartoon that was created by Filmation was owned by Filmation (like Orko). Universal only owns the rights to the Filmation cartoon and the original characters therein, as well as the rights to produce new MOTU cartoons through their ownership of Dreamworks.
This is why I don't think Scott is outright lying, I think he had to deal with a bunch of legal paperwork years ago, which he now does not remember properly and doesn't realising he is just filling in the blanks with bullshit. Which gets further compounded because people ascribe him a certain level of clout and legitimacy, so they repeat his misrememberings as gospel.

>>11529494
Mattel bought Orko. That's why you see him in the 2002, CGI and Powerhouse cartoons and he talks about Trolla but they can't show any other Trollan from the Filmation cartoons.

>>11529489
>I dont know what that refers to.
He's referring to a debate Michael from Retroblasting got into with Scott hosted on the Geek Dad Life YouTube channel. It did not go well for Michael. Michael has zero chill and seems to have a massive chip on his shoulder, so he immediately got flustered and pissy.

>>11529497
Yeah, I was just using Orko as an example of a character created by Filmation.
My point is MOTU itself, is owned entirely by Mattel. I'm sure that if Mattel were doing stronger financially they'd buy all of the Filmation stuff back, but really if they own the notable characters like Orko, then maybe they don't really give a shit.

>>11529355
Oh boy!
I can't wait for her to apear in background art and that's all she will get!

So Transformers comic. Cover hypes epic MAA/Skeletor fight only for Duncan to chase Skeletor without using armor and only then at the end, Duncan, He-Man and Scare Glow gain armors.

Is it me or are crossover comics even lamer than regular ones?

Also I dont really dig Star Glow design. It has too little Scare Glow. He just looks like Starscream with skull face forced on Motu buck. Maybe his acessories will be better.

>>11529349 (OP)
Mattel figures look like that?!

>>11529474
He captures that MOTU knockoff vibe so well

>>11529424
You're the only one.

>>11529568
Nta but alot of nu-ra girls look sexy, its a shame noelle is such a fucking nutty dyke IRL but she can draw cute girls sometimes when shes not focused on trying to remove adoras tits.

>>11529474
>cool looking monster is cooler then a bunch of generic boring humans
Ya dont fucking say?

>>11529565
>I can't wait for her to apear in background art and that's all she will get!

I know you're trying to be a buzz kill, but if it's not for her own box art, then the question is "what would it make sense to put Octavia on?" Which could mean he's doing boxart for Slime Pit, or Mantisaur or Monstroid or some other Hordesman like Multi-Bot or Horde Brain, and those would all be exciting too
>in b4 you say it'll be for her to fight Sketchbook Buzz-off on his card art or something

>>11529573
I had no idea what Octavia looked like when she was mentioned in this thread so I hit google and I hate the fact that I actually do prefer her nu-ra design

>>11529474
yeah he's one of my fav "new" motu figures
he's now the dad for my lego piggus

his face has such a goofy expression too, kind of looking in different directions
both frowning but also just kind of puzzled
and the fact he has 3 bananshaped tusks never gets old

>>11529384
There are elements to this interior i really like
the blue chromey paint

the pillory and iron maiden
the machinery and computer terminals and snake wepaon rack

It just doesn't really "flow" well in terms of overal shaping.
It's like I can see the potential final version people would adore but it's not really there yet

for me the interior looking good and having a lot of vertical space and elevation you can stand figures on is the most important.

>>11529575
Too bad swapping heads wasn't a thing in 1985 or she could have made the Rulers more interesting than just "represent minorities" without losing that goal by giving them second animal heads. Sun Man could have a hawk head, Bolt Man a puma head... kind of an Altered Beast thing.

>>11529494
I still cant believe Hallmark was stupid enough to throw out the He-man master reels. What a bunch of tards.

>>11529446
In the case of Scott, yes. It is much more reliable to trust the random anon. Hell, you might be better off asking the next hobo that asks you for spare change than relying on Scott's word.

>>11529648
Were the reels still in good shape? That stuff deteriorates over time

The Mattel Television executives have named you show runner for the next Masters of the Universe cartoon.
Your creative restrictions include them wanting a core team of He-Man, Teela, 2 other male heroes and a second girl.
You can either vary the villains or use a core team, but they want at least two villainesses.
What do you do? Genderswap your favorite obscuro?

>>11529684
Blue Beetle approach.

one of heroes, say Buzz-Off will be a girl now but we'll make clear that there used to be a male Buzz-Off among Heroic Warriors and we'll have flashbacks to him.

With villains you can just bring one of existing ones. Maybe Screech is now Enchantress?

That or I'd have female Stinkor crushing on Adam like Fifi la Fume, lol.

So, after they FAIL to fund the Snake Lair today and people lose their "early bird incentive" of that snake girl piece, will that spell doom for the rest of the campaign?

Fuck Mattel and their greed for trying to hostage shit through early funding. You already set the time limit to fund, why do you have to pull this shit on top of it? Bad enough Hasbro attempted this shit with Louis Tully in their Ghostbusters HasLab last year, but this trend of dangling perks you can lose mid-campaign just needs to go away.

Watch, this will assist in leading to the projects failure (along with price).

>>11529684
Instead of treating Skeletor/Evil-Lyn as a thing, it's Skeletor's minion Tung Lashor who has a big crush on him.
And what >>11529734 said: Buzz-Off the Younger is A-list now.

>>11529734
>That or I'd have female Stinkor crushing on Adam like Fifi la Fume, lol
The one genderswap in nu-ra that I 100% can get behind was Mo'squita'ra. But I will also get behind your Fifi la Fume idea.

Make Tuvar female but keep Baddrah male.

>>11529684
I would just have Evil-Lynn secretly in cahoots with Shadow Weaver

>>11529661
Yes. They were dumped in the early 2000's, and would have only been 25 years old around then. Schiemer kept good care of all these materials. When Hallmark bought them out they basically digitized VHS masters of the footage instead of the actual reels. That's why all moderm rereleases look so foggy.

>>11529684
Depends on if you're hitting me with a "vintage line characters only" restriction
If you're not, He-Man, Teela, Mekaneck, Snout Spout and Queen Kex
If you are, then I'll do like >>11529734 and gender swap Buzz-Off for a bug girl

Villains is same deal. I'm not doing ANY teams, all villains are independent (but will sometimes team up), so I've got Evil-lyn, Motherboard, the rocket witch, Shezar, Octavia, Slither all available to play with...but if you hit me with the restriction...I guess I'm gender swapping...Whiplash, Blade, and Snake Face

>>11529815
I thought they were dumped in the mid-90s

>>11529751
>nu-ra

It was CGI that had Mosquitra

>>11529568
Thanks bro, I didn't had the heart to tell her/him.

Over 4900 backers right now
82% funded
And they have a counter giving us 11 more hours until the early bird Lady Slither ends

>>11529641
It was just lazy. There was a whole ko line build around such a feature. Two Faces Devil.

>>11529684
>Heroic Warriors
I'd obviously keep He-man and Teela, but I would swap out MAA for Roboto, toss in Mek, MEF, and come up with a new heroic warrior woman to round out the bunch. What she could be is anyone's call. Stratos, MAA, Buzz off, and Moss Man would be written as wise elders in the vein of prequel jedi council members. Other heroic warriors like Fisto or Rio would be more akin to wandering vigilantes.
>Evil Warriors
Skeletor and Lynn are both givens. Beastman, Triklops, and Trapjaw get further cemented as Skelly's imediate crew members. Trapjaw is depicted as more of a heavy infantry type instead of a brainy guy while Triklops is the brains of the entire operation. For the sake of not Rule 63'ing somebody's favorite the second evil girl is based off Skelly's evil pet dragon from the Dragon Blaster armor and named "Dragonessa".

>>11529830
I've heard different years from different people. Lets split the difference and say they got dumped in the late 90's (96'-99'), they would have been less than 20 years old. They'ed been kept in cold tempersture controlled storage for years. Hallmark probably saw the reels as dead weight and chucked them.

>>11529840
Hell Yla's designers could have just as easily included battle masks for the Rulers to same a buck

>>11529831
Shit, it was too. Put it down to me being a boomer with dementia.

This actually looks better. The fuck was mattel thinking?

>>11529470
>>11529474
>>11529623
Bacon-lad is a great figure

>>11529623
>yeah he's one of my fav "new" motu figures
>he's now the dad for my lego piggus

Villain dads are the best trope.

>his face has such a goofy expression too, kind of looking in different directions
>both frowning but also just kind of puzzled

I imagine him as a mean outsider coming to Eternia and being puzzled as he looks more than one example of its weirdness.

>and the fact he has 3 bananshaped tusks never gets old
YES

>>11529470
>>11529474
>>11529623
>>11530021
Sometimes I wonder if I should go back and buy a Sun Man just so Piggers has his archenemy

>>11529926
I hate the lack of thought with these crossovers. Why isn't Buzz-Off Bumblebee? Skeletor should've been Bludgeon etc

>>11530101
They don't give two shits about thematic similarities or fanwankery.
This is a cash grab, they only care about who is the most popular Transformers and who are the most popular He-Mans and that's who they're gonna mash together

>>11530101
That was the plan during the conceptual phases, but they ultimately decided on MAA because he fills the same role in MOTU that Bee does for Transformers (in terms of licensing and branding). They even showed Bumblebuzz-Off concept art at SDCC, which makes the whole mess all the more a bitter pill to swallow in fairness, but atleast Bee at Arms looks cool.

>>11529352
I hope not.

>>11530065
He's 75% off in today's daily deal at BBTS

>>11529355
This is the type of stuff that just snaps my attention back to the series. >>11529406
These seem like some easy lay ups for the sketch book series. I think a annual mc exclusive sketch book figure would be a good idea if its a more obscure figure.

>>11529618
I think you could also say the new Scorpia looks better than when she had a bony heroin chic face, tiny claws and the same build as every other woman.

>>11529573
>>11529618
>>11530178
Basically all of the Nu-Ra designs (at least for the villains) are improvements over the originals, they're just severely hampered by Stevenson's autistic need to trannify everything, that's why a lot of the fanart draws all the characters as way cuter, because they aren't getting all their chests flattened. Even if you wanted to have Scorpia be a bigger girl to fulfil some kinda tank bruiser role, there's no reason she can't still be attractive. Like Gina Carano (I think that casting would give the Nu-Ra tranny fanset a stroke) is buff and feminine.

>>11529926
the body suit being colored black in the mini comic makes things alot more frustrating

>>11530174
>a annual mc exclusive sketch book figure would be a good idea if its a more obscure figure

So I don't think this is the most ideal suggestions because I'm pretty opposed to Club Grayskulll in the first place, but after He-Ro, Sharella and Eldor, sketchbook series ocs would probably be a decent option for when they need to get people to renew the membership/hook new fans.
Tell fans that next year they'll get 3 or 4 more "intended for vintage but unproduced" figures in a similar vein to what PoG was would probably hook people.

>>11530101
>Skeletor should've been Bludgeon etc
Fuuuuck yes!

Stupidly backed the Snake Lair for the moment. Shipping was $8?

>>11529684
>Heman, Teela, MAA, Mekaneck, female humanoid Battle Cat(transforms from kitten to barbarian furry)
>Skeletor, female Trapjaw, Mer-Man, Scareglow, and... female... Whiplash?
naturally all the new ladies would have huge fucking tits and asses and dress skimpy

>>11530242
The Snake Lair's at 5,537/6000 now. So first off, anyone who's been on the fence, now's the time to go for it, while the Slither skeleton is still attached. Second, if backers don't die off over the next two weeks, or if there's another huge push in the last day or two, Pythonus has a good chance of happening.

>>11530296
I did it

>TQ: Have you backed Snake Lair?
Just backed the Snake Lair as a Canuk. I was disappointed and confused by how far off the exchange rate was ($100) but had seen other international anons say when they contacted Mattel and they claimed it was to cover any duties and taxes in their "streamlined checkout experience" so I made my peace with it. However when I went through checkout it added another $66.30 for taxes? So I was charged for taxes and duties twice? Is this an error? If any other Canadian/International fans could confirm they paid the same additional charge I'd appreciate it. I knew I'd regret it if I passed on the Snake Lair, but I don't want to be overcharged beyond the original expensive price if it's in error.

>>11530312
Easier to do it now, secure the figure, call tomorrow and ask questions. You can cancel over the phone if they don't adjust or explain.

>>11530296
5,651 Backers. 2hrs 24mins left

>>11530268
>female humanoid Battle Cat
Do you want the furry audience? Because that's how you get the furry audience.

>>11530323
5,837 Backers, 7mins left

>>11530397
For a moment I thought it was over, then I realised it's just Lady Slither that's gone.

Imagine though if in the next 2 weeks they wont get those last 3%, that would be embarassing.

So Snorse is now part of the regular tier with the Lair? I got confused what were original tiers and what's the new ones.


Also, in minicomic, Thundercats and He-man already defeated Skeletor....I guess that proves that TC Wave 3 was thrown together at last minute as quick cash-grab.

>>11530403
Yes, Snorse was bumped from 10K up to being included when the set hits 6k backers. 8k will unlock the Priest because MC refused to listen to the complaints to bump him into 6k as well at that high cost.

Now if this doesn't hit 8k - because 6k will happen - then it's likely some people will cancel their order on the final day if 8k is unreachable. People only backed now not to miss the Early Bird figure despite being told it's dumb to lock a figure behind EB yet is obviously worked into the cost.

>>11530236
Basically what Im hoping is that Club Grayskull will continue to deliver actually demanded figures, uproduced vintage would be a good choice for it. Strobo and Plasmar would be neat.

>>11530105
Reminds me recent DC X Sonic crossover where they just had to cram together biggest heroes from both. So got Wonder Woman Amy Rose even though Blaze would be better or how about Starfire Blaze. And we didnt get Catwoman Rouge the Bat despite this being incredibly obvious.

>>11530065
You can put Sun-Man's wings on Pig-Head and use it as reaction picture everytime something unexpected happens. "Snake Lair actually gets made - pigs are now flying".

>>11530194
The designs are definitely varies. Old POP designs (figures especially) are mostly told apart by colors and acessories like wings or tails. In Nu-Ra you would never confuse Angela for Castaspella.

>>11530423
>Strobo and Plasmar would be neat.

I think these two are BAD choices for CG myself
Like, you're going to tell me I'm obligated to pay 10 extra bucks just for the privilege of being allowed to order these figures...and you're offering toys you put zero effort into, just cobbled together existing pieces?
That doesn't sit right with me. So Plasmar and Strobo should be "free" offerings (either retail, fan channels or normal MC public offerings)
Of course, I doubt many people will see it my way and they'd throw their bucks at Daddy Mattel even if they said CG would be all Anti-Eternia repaints

>>11529477
>If anything he should have used more lawyer speak like "based on how things were when I worked at Mattel, this could be a problem."

Weird take but that's why I don't trust him, Aaron Archer, Jason Langston, and many others talk about their past experience in a very past tense way and when ask about modern situations for companies or teams they are no longer with, they make it clear they have no idea what's going on with them now but Scott just acts like everything is exactly as it was.

>>11529819
No, not "vintage line only".
Rev made Andra a core character and the new movie cast Goat Man and Pig Boy, so my thinking is that Mattel and the Hollywood people don't care who you use as long as Skeletor, He-Man and Teela are the stars and there are enough girls (and the humans aren't all white, but we can minimize boring humans among the main cast).

>>11530465
Sharella was just new head, top, belt and bow (arrow sharred with Bow) so she's Rulers of Sun level of effort.

MC has stuff like Space Sumo and He-Skeletor

No release was ever judged by amount of tooling. Just amount of stuff it came with. Rokkon wasn't more expensive than Geldor. Thundercats repaint wave wont be cheaper than all new tooling.

So I get your logic but it was never how Origins worked so Im just facing reality. Skeleton Lady Slither requires a lot of new tooling but that doesn't mean I want her more than Strobo.

>>11530493
The problem is that they didnt make Andra gimmicky. She should get robot parts and become Andra-Oid. Come one, it's right there.

in4 - she became new Man-at-arms - yeah and washed away all that made him cool like mace, armor and colors. Plus name sounds stupid on her.

>>11529494
>was owned by Filmation (like Orko). Universal only owns the rights to the Filmation cartoon and the original characters therein, as well as the rights to produce new MOTU cartoons through their ownership of Dreamworks.

I'm just gonna throw in my two cents, based just on what Mattel is actually observable doing:
Mattel Studios made Rev with Powerhouse, DreamWorks wasn't involved. So if DreamWorks owned any rights in current era, why wouldn't THEY be making the cartoon or at least involved in it?
Rev also had free reign to include stuff that came from Filmation as evidenced by the inclusions of the Shaping Staff, Aquaticans, Illeena who was only cut for time, the Hover Robots. Just because they DIDNT use other Trollans doesn't mean they COULDNT necessarily when all you have to do is look at the show to see they did include Filmation elements
And the only thing the producers ever said that they could not include in the show was She-Ra related elements (Despara being clarified by them as a separate legal entity from She-Ra and PoP)
I'm sure some people will twist themselves in knots to explain how these observable realities fit their headcanon about what the truth of the legal matters are, but all you need to do is turn the cartoon on to see that Mattel doesn't need DreamWorks to make shows and can include in Filmation MotU stuff in said shows, they just can't put PoP in their MotU shows

Axel is posting that the Snake Lair will be the first playset Powers of Grayskull branded playset and its mini-comic will be "Alcala storybook style".

>>11530500
I get all that, all I'm saying is that I take exception to being asked to pay MORE for something behind a paywall for something thry put NO effort into .
I actually want Plasmar and Strobo, but I'm not willing to buy a subscription for them.
He-Skeletor I could just go and buy
But if you told me "actually you're only allowed to buy He-Skeletor in the first place if you give me 10 bucks first", ESPECIALLY when as you said I can still buy something like Rokkon WITHOUT spending thst 10 extra bucks, like, why would I give a subscription fee for that? Your basically squeezing me as paypig if you're not going to put in even a little effort to what's behind the paywall

>>11530508
I guess I'm just getting desperate because it feels like Mattel decided they don't feel like finishing Lost Wave.

Besides if they stick to what I'm suggesting and only make demanded figures then at least subscription would be worth it. Less so if the next Club figure would be Nepthu or Anti-Eternia Teela.

>>11530483
To each their own, but that makes me trust Scott more. He's just shooting from the hip and saying what he remembers. It's not scripted or prepared for some kind of fallout.
Honestly we need to adjust our expectations of him. He's not from the generation who knows how to make a polished YouTube channel with social media and patreon etc. Think of him like your boomer uncle who actually worked in the toy industry telling you interesting stories about back in the day. Take stuff with a grain of salt like you should anyone.
I still think he should have chose his words more carefully than he did when it came to the ownership stuff. But whatever, 60 year old was/ is still out of touch.

>>11530504
>Rev also had free reign to include stuff that came from Filmation as evidenced by the inclusions of the Shaping Staff, Aquaticans, Illeena who was only cut for time, the Hover Robots. Just because they DIDNT use other Trollans doesn't mean they COULDNT necessarily when all you have to do is look at the show to see they did include Filmation elements
>And the only thing the producers ever said that they could not include in the show was She-Ra related elements (Despara being clarified by them as a separate legal entity from She-Ra and PoP)
You make an interesting point. I would have thought from the way 3 cartoons in a row have had Orko verbally dance around being able to see Trolla or interact with other Trollans that the writers want to use them but can't. But that goes against the Hover Robots, having the right to use Ileena but just cutting her for time... they even had Granamyr in red instead of green so they could claim "Mini-comics are Mattel IP!"
Weird.

>>11530561
That is daughter's all time favorite Motu/PoP moment.

Filmation might not hold up to adult scrutiny but they knew how to make them for the kids.

Not sure how I feel about Thundercat being taller than Eternians.
Or rather, the scuttlebutt is that they're going to be the same height as 200X Eternians, but I'm not replacing my Origins collection with those guys.

>>11530563
I'd chalk it up to "different planet, different race "

>>11530562
"Hordikins?"

>>11530563
I kind of like it. Lions, cheetahs, and other bigger cats are pretty big. If you lift them up like the long cat meme, they are probably a bit taller than humans.

>>11530563
iirc they were taller in the cross over comic ten years ago.

>>11530568
it looks like he is trying to shed his skin

>>11530423
Sonic=He-Man
Tails=Man-At-Arms
Knuckles=Fisto
Amy=Teela
Shadow=???
Rouge=???
Omega=Roboto
Silver=Zodac
Blaze=???
Eggman=Skeletor (Though Black Doom or Mephiles would make better sense due to being "serious" villains)
Though we would likely never get them
Coconuts=Beast-Man
Scratch=Trap-Jaw
Grounder=Tri-Klops

Also how would they sell? Would it be like Jakk's Sonic/DC ones where it's a Masterfied-fied Sonic character with a MOTU character?

>>11530504
>Rev also had free reign to include stuff that came from Filmation
Mattel not owning the rights to the Filmation stuff doesn't necessarily mean they CAN'T use it. Sometimes something as simple as putting "special thanks to [relevant parties]" or "with acknowledgement to the works of [relevant parties]" and maybe a few bucks in royalties or back end points is enough to be able to include elements. Especially if all the parties are on good terms. Revelation was supposed to be a direct continuation of the Filmation series, so the inclusion of Orko was probably necessary enough to warrant making sure the legalities were hashed out. She-Ra may have been a different case because maybe Dreamworks had a non-compete clause in place for that side of things, like how Marvel weren't allowed to use any of the characters that showed up in the Netflix shows for five years after the shows ended, so it could be a similar situation where the Nu-Ra series ended but in order to see some final additional revenue from the series, She-Ra could not be included in any other animation until a certain period had been reached, because if Nu-Ra ended and Mattel immediately commissioned a new She-Ra series from a competing network, then people would be paying less (or no) attention to the Dreamworks series.

>>11530618
Tikal - Sorceress

Because Island Grayskull fits together too well and you dont want Knuckles to be Sorceress.

Shadow is obviously Faker.

>>11529352
>>11529573
>>11530178
I hope they do figures of the Nu-Ra looks, at least for She-Ra and Catra, because they are good appearances, Catra especially is a good update. My ideal version would be Nu-Catra in the original outfit. I like Nu-Catra's hair, and the markings, face. I think actual catgirl is better fitting to the character than just "regular looking chick who can turn into a cat" especially given that the original outfit itself doesn't really scream "cat" kinda like Catwoman's original purple dress and green cape, in fact I wonder if they were referencing that outfit.

Hordak would fit Eggman better. He has armies or robots and machines, Swatbots look like Horde Troopers, he can change into machines himself and that way you dont have to imagine Eggman half naked.

Best pick for Rouge is Double Trouble.

Anyone else is vaguely connected trough femininity (Evil-Lyn) flight (Stratos) bat theme (Horde) spying (Mekaneck) or spinning attack (Sy-Klone)

>>11530566
She should be the Horde’s HR person.

>>11530629
But Shadow is a hero (Or at the very least antihero).

Team Chaotix - Buzz-Off (or Orko), Lizard Man, Slamurai.

Big the Cat -Ram Man.

Cream - actually she should be Orko. Her dress even looks alike.

Blaze - She-Ra or Sy-Klone

Omega - Roboto makes sense but Rio Blast fits him well. Roboto can be given to any other random robot in the series.

Metal Sonic - Faker or Dragstor.

Babylon Rogues - Stratios and Avians.

Mighty and Ray - Stonedar and Rokkon

>>11530640
Im sorry but it's been already decided.

(In seriousness, i cant find anyone fitting)

>>11530643
>Not Metal Sonic, who is literally an evil robotic copy of Sonic.

>>11529734
Younger girl Buzz-Off would work pretty well. You can say that Andreeno names are unpronounceable to humans so she took original name in his honor or something.

If you make her a kid she would well as fun kid-appeal character (give Orko something else to do) and if you make her older she could be in love triangle with Teela and Adam (you cant have Adam keep his reputation as foppy womanizer and not have him flirt with monster girls. Not on Eternia)

>>11530647
I meant for Shadow. Faker's easy.

One of knock-off He-Man, like He-Ro, Oolar or Vykor?

how about
Black Doom - Horde Prime
Shadow - Despara

>>11530652
What about having an evil robot Shadow as Faker while the heroic real one is one of the heroes?
I mean with TOGK you had Mutant He-Man then Stealth Ninja He-Man once he was restored.

>>11530652
>>11530653
NA He-Man? Same as Sonic but more high-tech and fight aliens.

That or Wun-Dar.

MV Khan just hit my PoL.
About to take the plunge into Masterverse

Panthro feels like odd comparres to other Thundercats. One is that his armor is clearly based on Man-At-Arms while others have generic, two that he has gauntlet with attachable axe and flail (which is also odd because it matches Krang pefectly) while others only have their default weapons.

>>11530670
So I just shipped the order
I bought 2 Skelcons, NE Evil-lyn, Tri-klops and Clawful and Rev Stinkor to go with him.
Still couldnt decide what Skeletor and Beast Man I wanted so I passed on them for now.
All the other Evil Warriors I want are either sold out so it's no rush since I gotta pay late tax anyway, or I'm gonna specifically wait for a better version (looking at you Spikor)

>>11530632
>Swatbots look like Horde Troopers,

>the turn this thread took...
>...and not a single person suggested Scott-Chan and Spectorchu

I expect better of you, motug

>>11530851
>GO OUT SPECTOR AND CANCEL DC UNIVERSE TO THE EXTREME
>I WILL, THANK YOU FATHER

>>11530854
>But during the Preternian Age?

>>11530855
Someone needs to draw an homage picture of the infamous megan image but now its scott railing the mighty Spector

>Fright Zone delayed to September
What was the fucking point of ordering off the Mattel website if I'm getting it after everyone else?

>>11530407
>People only backed now not to miss the Early Bird figure despite being told it's dumb to lock a figure behind EB yet is obviously worked into the cost.
And because it got SO close Mattel will pull this bullshit stunt again in the future. They have their paypiggies firmly under their thumb.

>>11530563
>Not sure how I feel about Thundercat being taller than Eternians.
Who gives a shit how you "feel", you fucking crybaby?

>>11530870
Who pissed in your cornflakes?

>>11530867
>Didn't back Eternia
>Didn't back the Snake Lair
After finding Preternia intriguing enough to make up elaborate headcanon, I bet I'm going to find myself missing out on like 4 playsets for that era that crowdfund for a combined $1500.

>>11530865
Ty BBTS!

>>11530865
>He fell for the Club Grayskull scam
>mfw I didn't and see people fuming

>>11530867
>And because it got SO close Mattel will pull this bullshit stunt again in the future.
They'll pull this shit no matter what. They don't actually listen to people. When it's final day they'll probably start seeing canceled orders when it's nowhere near Snake Priest getting unlocked

>>11530656
what would you do with metal sonic then?
>>11530657
The Sonic/DC crossover perfectly exemplified the expectations for what the Sonic characters will look like in any give crossover. Thing is the DC side of the crossover didnt really benefit in any way. Nobody got cool new designs or powers, you just got sonic and friends in DC garb. Having said as much, what could be done with the MOTU cast? Does everyone just get sneakers?

>>11530911
It will be embarrassingly hilarious to see Mattel get so close to the bare minimum goal and then still fail.
I don't think it'll happen, they only need like 100 more to meet the bare minimum, I assume they'll get more than that and cancellations over not getting Pythonus probably won't be enough to get them back below 6000, but man, it's a funny thought and I'd love to see it

Just for fun:
Post your ideal Mattel Creations release schedule for next year, starting in January.

Ground rules:
>you must follow a similar template to this year. Which means you must have 4 normal Origins (can be vintage or non vintage since this year included Rio, Hurricane Hordak, Despara and presumably soon Stingor), 2 Masterverse (since we had Panthor and soon Moss Man), 2 Cartoon Collection (Vultak and Swiftwind), 3 Club Grayskull (since we got the 3 Preternia figures once Eldor hits. The CG can follow a theme like this year or just be random choicesif you like), and 1 SDCC exclusive like Skele-Shredder which can be a wild card and you can slot it into any subline you like
>A creature or vehicle selection WILL take a slot from a figure, so if for example you ask for CC Battle Cat, you only have one slot for a CC figure

Let's hear your pitches

Roboto is being voiced by a woman in the movie. Hope this means a female design to follow.

>>11531069
>not telling anyone it's Kristin Wiig

Give people the whole story, boss

>>11531069
>>11531074
Fuck sake this movie just sounds worse all the time

>>11531045
4 vintage Origins: Multi-Bot, Two Bad, Blast-Attak... you're calling Swiftwind one even though he's in a pack with She-Ra, so I'm going to say 4th is a Laser He-Man/Skeletor 2-pack.
3 Club Grayskull: Saurod, Blade, Gwildor
2 Cartoon Collection: Marlena, Scorpia
Masterverse: New Eternia Extendar & Tung Lashor
SDCC: Tyrantisaurus

>>11530858
>the infamous megan image
I'm not familiar.

>>11531166
This is a blue board, but I think he means this one. Do yourself a favour and open in an incognito browser.
https://sonichu.com/cwcki/ShecameforCWC.JPG

>>11530911
>They don't actually listen to people.
Cancelled the first version after fan complaints
Rearranged tiers on this one after fan complaints
>They don't actually listen to people.
If you say so, sport.

>>11530317
Yeah that's what I did. I also sent a message asking for an accurate cost breakdown, so hopefully It'll be adjusted.

I know this is more of a /tv/ question but I am curious: Did the steelbook for MotU Revalations / Revolution sell out for good? I saw it at Walmart the other week and thought 'nah I'll wait' and now I can't find it online anywhere. Was it a limited release or something?
I am doing my mid-year movie/tv show catch-up, so I hope I don't regret passing it up at the time.

>>11531174
Well that was the worst thing I've seen in a while.
I don't know what is worse, that there is a wiki devoted to that guy, or that there is enough fucked up shit about him to fill a wiki.

These upcoming animated figure ones from SDCC are going to be 1/12 right?

>>11530986
Metal Sonic - Dragstor

>>11531149
>you're calling Swiftwind one even though he's in a pack with She-Ra, so I'm going to say 4th is a Laser He-Man/Skeletor 2-pack.

No I didn't. Reread my post
I stuck Swiftwind next to Vultak as a CC
I said the 4 regular Origins were Hurricane Hordak, Rio Blsst, Stingor and Despara, and I specified that a normal Origins release does not have to be vintage necessarily

>>11531339
Yeah, the 200x figures are the replacement for Cartoon Collection and are technically Origins.

>>11531045
Origins - Dragstor, Stonedar, Blast-Attak, the purple cyclops
CC - Strong Arm, Glimmer w/ Kowl
MV - Over sized Leech, over sized Grizzlor
CG - minicomic themed. Garn, Rana and Lodar
SDCC - oversized MV Goat Man to hype the new movie (oversized because Hafthor a big guy)

Now that I think about Hordak fits especially well not with Eggman but 90s Satam Dr Robotnik. Guy who basically conquered the planet and fights rebels, has swatbots/Horde Troopers, Robotropolis/Fright Zone, Robotisizer/whatever tech created Dragstor, Snout Spout and Extendar, has robot arm and rocket boots, has cape, red eyes... You could probably color those lines on Hordak face orange to invoke mustache.

Also, Hordak love to putting his face everywhere really fits Eggman Empire,

>>11531174
Im going to do myself a favor and not click that.

>>11530423
Isn't Harley Quinn a hero now? Wouldn't that make more sense for the mallet wielding Sonic character???

>>11530407
Early Bird on a crowd fund is dumb. You're essentially already pre-ordering a product, now you in addition need to worry about pre-pre-ordering to get a bonus item? This more likely deters people from joining after that period has passed than it does to encourage people to fund late in the game to meet tier quotas.

>>11531393
There is a small section of fans that will buck that, though.
I saw one guy on a forum specifically say that if he does back he's waiting until after the early bird because he doesn't need or want a dead Slither
You probably won't get A LOT with that attitude, but this close to the finish line, you don't even need a lot. Just a few dozen people who think the Lair without Slither is more appealing and your golden

>>11531388
You cant skip Wonder Woman and Amy is the only important girl.

>>11531388
Just to keep it He-Man related, she was a good guy in the He-Man DC crossover

(But then Superman and Wonder Woman were evil in this universe so maybe I shouldn't be pointing to it as an example)

>>11531385
Maybe a crossover could feature Eggman/Skeletor (Which would look gross as hell) while Hordak gets something based on SATAM Robotnik?

>>11531385
>Now that I think about Hordak fits especially well not with Eggman but 90s Satam Dr Robotnik. Guy who basically conquered the planet and fights rebels, has swatbots/Horde Troopers, Robotropolis/Fright Zone, Robotisizer/whatever tech created Dragstor, Snout Spout and Extendar, has robot arm and rocket boots, has cape, red eyes...
Did He-Man and She-Ra alumnus Robby London write the Sonic Satam story bible? I know he's in the credits as executive priducer, but not more than that.
J. Michael Straczynski, Larry DiTillio and Bob Forward had also all jumped ship from Filmation to DIC, but never ended up on DIC's Sonic.

JMS and Larry DiTillio quit She-Ra by the end of Season 1 over credit and/or financial compensation issues and worked on The Real Ghostbusters at DIC.
The DIC cartoon I remember Bob Forward for is The Legend of Zelda. Have an image of Filmation-style Pig Head and Skeleton Warriors.

Dadanon, did you buy the Little Golden Books?

My favorite Evil Warriors: Sssqueeze and Relay.

>>11531388
>Isn't Harley Quinn a hero now?
Harley is more of an anti-hero. It's kinda like yes she's a villain, but occasionally fights with the heroes, or "she's was never really a villain she was just being manipulated by her abuse ex The Joker, and now she has her groove back."
But the core of her character is that she's a villain, and when writers get tired of this girl power and lesbian Ivy shipping thing they're on, that's what she'll revert to.

>>11531484
>when writers get tired of this girl power and lesbian Ivy shipping thing they're on,
My opinion of this depends entirely on whether she's being shipped with clothed or nudist Poison Ivy.

>>11531474
Looking at background silhouettes
I see guy with sword and spiky bits on his head
Guy with a Halberd thst isn't Scare Glow
Guy completely in black
Guy with a bulbous shape to head
And a guy with what looks like 6 arms
Couldn't spot Spikor or Twistoid, unfortunately, and some are TOO nondescript for me to autistically apply a name to

>>11531468
>Frog Monger makes out with Wrap Trap

>>11531487
To me it looks like two characters behind another. The left bottom thing looks like a foot.

>>11529352
After learning cartoons apparently really do automatically get two seasons (The leaked, unreleased Micronauts show had TWO FULL SEASONS, same length as Netflix She-ra), and seeing the lack of marketing for this series, I am having my doubts it was considered any sort of success by Mattel at all.

>>11531505
I know what you're talking about about, but my eye sees a 6 armed guy with one guy with a sword behind him

>>11531492
>Hordak gets inside Castle Grayskull
>storyteller remembers to include Wrap Trap in the Horde
>open the Dwell of Souls
"Thanks for freeing me!" Frog Monger says.

>>11531487
I love six-armed Evil Helpful Rescuer like you wouldn't believe.

>>11531045
Club Grayskull could be Horde Ladies theme - Entrapta, Scorpia and Octavia. Give one of them Imp and we're golden.

But I like ideas others had so far.

>>11531524
I'd believe it because you gush over him every time an opportunity to post him presents itself lol

>>11531529
>>11531149
I don't want to sound like I'm shitting on anyone's ideas, but these posts regarding CG, don't you think these suggestions would have people up in arms?
Sticking 3 vintages like Blade, Saurod and Gwildor behind an obligatory extra paywall would piss people off to no end, and I think PoP fans would react the same way for Scorpia and Entrapta (you'd prob get away with it with Octavia though).
I think CG really would need to stick to characters with more modest demand that you can get away with it without angering too many folks, which would exclude anything vintage or that has at least comparable fandom love to vintage.

>>11531543
Another person complained that Strobo and Plasmar would be bad picks because they require no new tooling.

Do you realise what a delicate balance it is to maintain? Something so good people would pay that extra cash but not too good so no one will be angry? Not as if Powers of Grayskull werent in high demand.

And Filmation line just was cancelled. We dont know when and if we're any more POP figures. We might not even get Glimmer.

What do you suggest to put absolute nobodies that will be bought only by whales with too much money.

>>11531573
Ice Castle variant

>>11531569
>What do you suggest to put absolute nobodies that will be bought only by whales with too much money.

Whales with too much money are the folks going in for Club Grayskull memberships in the first place.

And i'd also want to know what you'd define as "absolute nobodies". One off cartoon characters? Unproduced vintages? Comic characters? Axels OCs? (All of which id say "yes, those sound like good CG offerings". Not popular enough to piss off the masses, paypigs will buy them anyway and they're JUST tempting enough that you might convince some folks not inclined to want the membership to buy it anyway with minimal grumbling since they may not exist otherwise)

And if your going to take the stance that vintages and high demand PoP should be in CG to force everyone to buy it, let's take that to it's logical conclusion and just say "let's make Club Grayskull mandatory to buy ANYTHING from Mattel Creations", then you'll be sure to milk those sweet paypiggy dollars

>>11531572
>>11531573
>>11531574
These are really good, but the painted eyes wig me out.

As an 80s kid. I was endlessly confused by the half dozen, utterly different origin stories for He-Man and MOTU. The little comic booklets that came with the figures only raised more questions.

By the time Hordak came out I had mostly moved on to G.I.Joe. So I never really knew what he was or where the fuck he came from.

What's the generally most accepted canon-ish origin for Hordak and his Horde. I seem to remember something about him being Skeletor's master, until Skeletor betrayed Hordak by banishing him to some phantom zone dimension. Until he escaped.

>>11531518
>(The leaked, unreleased Micronauts show had TWO FULL SEASONS, same length as Netflix She-ra)
The micronauts series that was unreleased got leaked?

>>11531593
The one constant is that Hordak was Skeletor's master and one betrays the other. And even then sometimes Skeletor betrays Hordak (minicomics and 200x) and sometimes Hordak betrays Skeletor (Filmation and Revelation)
Other than that everything else is kind of in flux. Sometimes hes an alien invader with an intergalactic army conquering planets, sometimes hes an ANCIENT EVIL from Eternia's early days.

>>11531606
>The micronauts series that was unreleased got leaked?
nta, but a month ago all of it was uploaded to archive.org in 1080p mp4s. avg episode was 1.5gigs in size

>>11531615
Thanks, im gonna watch this later. Does anyone know why it ended up being cancelled?

>>11531593
Hordak lived on prehistoric Eternia:
80s mini-comics, 2002-3 cartoon
Hordak is primarily a sorcerer: ditto, 10s DC comic

Hordak is a space alien: She-Ra cartoons, 10s DC comic, Revelation/Revolution cartoon
Hordak thinks technology is superior to magic: same cartoons
Hordak is a cyborg: 80s cartoon, becomes one in 80s mini-comics, was in DC comic before magic regeneration, present day in Revolution

In every version, he was Skeletor's teacher when King Randor was a youth.
In the 2002-3 cartoon and DC comic, he astral projects from a dimension called Despondos. 80s mini-comics say "banished to Etheria" and he blames Skeletor. A Revelation comic says Skeletor betrayed him to Despondos after helping him invade Eternia. Sometimes Etheria is explicitly a planet in the dimension of Despondos.

The Horde is at least thousands of years old (DC: Hordak himself is one million and not the first ruler). His main henchmen Mantenna, Grizzlor and Leech fought He-Man's ancestor thousands of years ago in 2002-3, but more commonly they're aliens with annoyingly underdefined origins.

>>11531649
Nothing concrete but my guess is they buried it after Flex Fighters underperformed

>>11531649
Tax write-off probably. This new thing that happened to Batgirl movie or Wile Coyote film...

>>11531520
I just see one blob.

>>11531524
Whne i see them, i wonder if they got inspired by The Other World.

Seen on Facebook.
I'm so bummed that Mega is dead.

What are the odds of this 200x Cartoon Collection giving us an accurate Rattlor?

>>11531754
it sucks big fat dicks how Mattel fumbled it and lego muscled it out of retail space. Great line.

>>11531754
Mega is dead in name only. There will be new Motu sets coming next year with the release of the movie, and Halo will return for the Halo Combat Evolved remake coming in the 4th quarter of 2026. Rumor is that Mattel has also acquired the rights to produce sets based on GTA VI.

>>11531873
please fucking be true

>>11531521
Honestly I always thought it more interesting to have Hordak/Horde as the one villain who *doesn't* care about Grayskull.

>>11531754
wish we had at least gotten the other two eternia towers

>>11531857
This. I'm going to mull over the loss of MCX for decades to come.

>>11531724
>Sir Cobra
he's literally me

>>11531724
You know, I'm genuinely surprised nobody has attempted a modern revival of this line. It would fit right in amongst other 5.5/Origins compatible collections releasing nowadays. Plus it'd be neat to see these designs rendered in a more action figure-y fashion for lack of a better phrasing.

>>11531572
>>11531573
>>11531574
that's pretty neat

Question for anons, what kind of Skeletor feet for you like best, original three-toed splayed out foot, booted three-toed feet, clawed thee-toed bare feet, or clawed regular-toed bare feet, or regular smooth boots?

>>11531649
We never even saw toy prototypes so I'm assuming it was a toy design/production issue.

>>11532190
I like the compromise of five clawed toes.

>>11532190
I find it funny that parts reuse means MotU literally has evil feet. Skeletor, Mer-Man, Webstor, Kobra Khan, Stinkor, Scare Glow, Ninjor and Zodac had them, with only Zodac being depicted as neutral rather than pure evil. There's no biological connection between them, ranging from a merman to a Snake to a purported interdimensional demon and someone what appears to be an Asian man. Just the ontological one of being Evil.

I think I like best the clawed regular-toed bare feet, which go back to 200X. The cartoon showed Keldor first, then he's a dead guy with a bare skull above his muscles. You can believe that clawed regular toes were inside the boots he used to wear, and that feeling no pain as a dead guy he finds footwear pointless.

>>11532190
>>11532197
>I like the compromise of five clawed toes.
Anon who posted the image here. Realised I didn't offer my own thoughts. I also like the five clawed toes. I dig the three clawed toes, aesthetically but the biological inaccuracy bugs me. Species with five fingers can't have three toes, at least not without some kind of vestigial remnants.

Ninjor sneaks up on campfires and waits for a dramatic moment in Rio Blast's ghost story to appear and scare Heroic Warriors!

>>11532203
>evil feet.
I never liked the way the evil feet toes splayed out at the end on the figures. It just reminds me too much of duck feet and I can't take it seriously. Maybe the intention on the original design was supposed to be some kind of spiked boot and it just didn't translate, but the end result still sucks.

How did Sketchbook Hordak end up being such a manlet? The infamous height difference between CC males and vintage Origins is barely detectable with Hurricane Hordak.

>>11532209
I wonder what the biker Hordak would look like on the motorcycle from the old Kenner Terminator 2 line

>>11532206
I've probably said this before, can't remember, but one thing I've always loved about the line up from the last year of figures
>Make ninja character
>Someone who's strength is "hide in the shadows" and "move silently"
>Pair him with guy who glows in dark and guy who makes explosions, completely negating all stealth

>>11532210
>I wonder what the biker Hordak would look like on the motorcycle from the old Kenner Terminator 2 line
Unfortunately, I don't own that.
Closest I could find online is Classics Hordak on a McFarlane Death Metal Batcycle someone repainted.

>>11532256
Best team

>>11532275
>"Skeletor and his evil warriors could be up to something diabolical as we speak!"
>Skeletor and his evil warriors:

>>11532159
Why would you revivie it? It is rather an obscure toy line.

>>11532103
>This. I'm going to mull over the loss of MCX for decades to come.
Same.
I was collecting MCX MotU from late 2019 and only started picking up Origins when Mosquitor came out. My thinking was "OK, I'll buy the deluxe Origins and any others where they preserve a vintage action feature that wouldn't fit on a 2-inch figure. But looking at that Classics line I missed, Masters of the Universe has a couple hundred characters Mattel might make and only dozens might have action features that require the vintage body size. This new format is better for vehicles and an expansive universe."
Four years after that line of thought, MCX is dead with only about 32 characters, they've dragged me into buying the Origins versions of some 90-100 unique MotU characters plus crossovers like Rulers of the Sun and Turtles of Grayskull, and a bunch of vintage remakes lost their gimmicks. Sigh.

>>11532282
>The Sword and the Sorcerer
Huh

Fun fact. Mattel Creations only allows cancellation of order by phone which is against EU policy of an easy way to cancel an order by simple website link. As Mattel is selling these Snake Lairs to Europe a few anons of EU origin can make a direct complaint to the EU about non-compliance and force Mattel to have to revamp their shop system to allow online cancellation before the deadline arrives.

Characters I was most looking forward to getting Mega Construx:
Modulok, Multi-Bot, King Hiss, Grizzlor*.

*MCX seemed to be taking a lot of cues from Classics with when a figure had a feature and when not. Grizzlor always rooted hair until the mid-2025 CC figure, and it would have been interesting to see that attempted at mini scale.

More practical wishlist: Clawful, Jitsu, Burger King Randor, Clamp Champ, PoP characters with She-Ra's body, army builders.

So what's the deal with Super7 using the classic moulds to do figures? Did they buy the moulds off Mattel?
I have a few of their figures, the Filmation He-Man and Skeletor, as well as the Conan movie figures which use the same body.

So what's the deal with Super7 using the classic moulds to do figures? Did they buy the moulds off Mattel?
I have a few of their figures, the Filmation He-Man and Skeletor, as well as the Conan movie figures which use the same body.

>>11532383
I'm confused about that myself.
Mattel still had the Classics accessory molds, because they were on 5.5" bodies in Masters of the WWE after Super 7 Classics. But Super 7 might have paid for the "buck" molds.

Since we're getting a 200X Cartoon Collection, can we talk about character sizes?
I'm looking at 200X Tung Lashor on Frank's He-Man page, and this seems like a handy reference for Snake Man scale, because we have 4 of them standing in a line. Kobra Khan is more than a head shorter than King Hiss. The King, Sssqueeze and Tung Lashor are all the same height, but TL is absolutely massive, with each bicep the size of Sssqueeze's torso, hands touching the ground while standing, and his head in front of his shoulders instead of on top.

Rattlor's arms might be the same size as Tung Lashor's, but he's significantly taller since he doesn't have that gorilla shape.

So how tall is Kobra Khan? The crown of his head seems to be slightly taller than a helmeted Evil-Lyn.

Uh, was Prince Adam taller than Evil-Lyn, or is this just an inconsistency?

>>11532437
I honestly don't think any of that matters at all because they're just gonna make all the snakes the same general size as the regular sized figures with Tungashor and maybe Rattlor just the slightly bigger deluxe scale that Ram Man and Roboto will have

In a gallery of 14 Tung Lashor screenshots, guess how many Frank has of him bullying Teela?

One... two...

Three! AH AH AH AH!

>>11532454
Sadly this is probably right.

Could Origins save money and just make Tytus and Megator on Master verse buck?

>>11532461
Nobody anywhere would consider that satisfactory for characters supposed to be literal giants.
Let me illustrate in pictures.
This is a vintage Megator. A vintage figure barely reaches his knee

>>11532490
In Classics, figures were scaled up and the giants were scaled down, but they still maintained a scale difference to keep the giants impressive

>>11532492
And now here's a Masterverse next to an Origins.
This would be less "he's a giant" and more "this is my big brother"

>>11532456
I somehow hadn't downloaded this one. Thank you.

>>11532461
They could make a 12" buck, make Tytus and Megator with it, then they'll probably let the snake fetish guy make a snake giant OC out of it to get a bit more $$$ from the molds, then if that didn't pay off the molds enough they could make 12" He-Man/Skeletor "Collector figures" with the bodies by slapping on a bit of soft goods and painting them slightly better than usual.

>>11532502
They made a 12 inch buck for Motherboard that they could only use once and haven't bothered to OC up an excuse to reuse it. Just tossing that out there

>>11532506
This reminds me that I should buy Motherboard whenever they cut her price to 50% off. That's the lowest MotU discounts ever go on MC, right?

>>11532502
>then they'll probably let the snake fetish guy make a snake giant OC out of it
If they see this you just fast tracked the giants to being made

please welcome Smileton, Skeletor's heroic half-brother from a different dimension, to the thread. He is the arch enemy of Faker and fights for the side of good.

>>11532570
Skeletors father really got around the universes.

>>11532286
Random IP branding.

>>11532502
>if that didn't pay off the molds enough they could make 12" He-Man/Skeletor "Collector figures" with the bodies by slapping on a bit of soft goods and painting them slightly better than usual.
This just reminds me of SDCC 2016, when they wanted to make PoP and MotU 12" dolls but they didn't generate enough interest and Mattel rented the whole brand(s) to Super 7.

The She-Ra at least was an actual toy you could buy.

>>11532207
i'm almost certain they look like duck feet on purpose to be reminiscent of ancient demonic descriptions

>>11532221
the fuck is he doing?

>>11532540
Not if but when!
>thanks for the idea suckers

My disappointment with how New Eternia Teela turned out cannot be overstated. I'd just barely dipped my toes into motu last year and have only bought around 4-5 figures (NE Evil-Lyn and Snake Teela being my favorites). I very nearly bought the netflix Teela but decided to hold off cause I knew they'd do a new one that would look better. Not only does it look and function worse, but it doesn't even include a fucking sword. Is there a chance for a redo with a Vintage label release? Or could someone scale down the Mondo head, paint that, and sell it?

>>11531486
What the fuck

>>11532805
something weird about her pelvis

>>11532964
kek

>>11532256
>>11532275
>Bet you losers would like to get in here with us, huh?

Given what we know so fate, come up with quips for the movie.

>>11532987
>Sorceress posing on Ram Man
>Mekaneck looking up at Extendar
>Gwildor looking at that tiny Orko
>Zodiac humping the throne

>>11532997
Mekaneck so fucking jealous

I think the writers shipping He-Man and Teela really didn't work once the "Prince Adam with a secret identity" concept took over.
It's not even unique to Filmation, where they'd want to downplay it because the main audience was preschool and elementary boys. The 1982 DC Comic had Adam with an unnamed floozy on each arm. In 200X, they're 4 years younger than Filmation and Teela's teenage girl contempt for Adam is palpable all the time.
Psychologically, they're practically siblings (and Teela says so in the Filmation ep "Into the Abyss").

At this point, how do you hope Mattel will add Marlena to Origins?
A 200X armored version would have been cool, but if she's going to be 6", she won't fit with the 5.5" Randor they already made.
Filmation, relegated to Mattel Creations?

>>11532988
>so what you're saying...
>is...
>we sum kinda Masters of the Universe?

Or
>Gotta say we came a long way since Earth
>We're like Masters...of the Universe
>Say that again

>>11533020
I've always wanted a "vintage" Marlena that follows the design philosophy vintage Randor did.
They didn't just take Filmation bathrobe-and-slippers Randor and make a toy, they made a toy that looked like a vintage warrior figure with some parts reuse and made that.
They make that, and I'll get it. Anything else I'll honestly pass on

>>11532988
>Beast Man? Goat Man?
>So, hang on, lemme guess...uh, Spike Man, Underbite Man and Eyes-Spinning-Around Man. Am I close?

You think they'll do Multi-Bot next to wrap up the Horde?

>>11533030
Problem is that parts reuse pool is much smaller. Just Teela or Sorceress.

>>11532988
In light of Kristen Wiig as Roboto
>Welcome online, Roboto. I'm Man-At-Arms, your creator. And this is my daughter Teela
>My creator? So...my father?
>I suppose ..
>Omg, that makes us SISTERS! Can I borrow your armor tonight?
>Oh brother....
>I have a brother too?!

>>11533020
I want 200X armored Marlena so bad

>>11533036
I don't think that matters too much, since Randor only reused the basic male, reusing the basic female would be fine.
But as far as Origins goes, they could reuse some wave 3 She-Ra pieces too.
Teela buck, Sorceress arms, She-Ra boots, a new head and a soft goods cape plus a soft goods battle skirt, one of those ones that goes down to the ankles but has splits at the side for exposed legs and more mobility, you know the ones I mean, that's give the general feeling of that traditional Marlena look while still feeling like a vintage figure ready for battle

>>11533035
I doubt it, and I'll be incredibly surprised if he is.

>>11533044
He also reused Jitsu armor. And spear from Whiplash/Grayskull of course.

>>11533037
>Roboto proceeds to queef and do the Robot

>>11533007
Would Merman be better as a hero?

>>11533176
Naw. He's fine where he is.

>>11533176
Yes. The evil warriors can take stratos in exchange.

>>11533037
That wouldnt be so bad. It reminds me of Galatea from Bicentennial Man. But I frankly expect >>11533072

Never though of storing shield on the back like this before.

>>11533292
>evil warriors can take stratos

We don't want him

>>11532383
I believe they have access to mattel's factory where they keep them, they reused the thundercats figures mattel did as well and seem to be reissuing the lion-o again too.

Fem-Roboto with breasts on a transparent chest with gears and a heart inside would be a fun design, but everything depends on personality.
If she was a walking arsenal like 200X and had an attitude about weapons like Revy from Black Lagoon, grown men would waifu her but that doesn't sound like a character who'd appeal to young girls or boys.
Maybe focus on swappable tools for hands rather than firepower. She could capture the same appeal as Nu-Entrapta.
Or Kisten Wig could ruin it. Time will tell.

Sword of Flaws five page preview:

What's the point of using Roboto as the comic relief when we already have Orko? Do they want the Superman 2025 audience?

>>11533332
>Alien warlords Skeletor and Hordak
>They're going with the Alcala minicomic "Skeletor is from the Skeletor dimension" origin

Dangerously based

>>11533312
You think they're re-release the original MOTUC He-Man? I like the Masterverse figures, but the original Classics mould, aged as it is, seems to capture that original Alcala style better.

>>11533337
We don't know for certain yet that Roboto will be comic relief. People are just assuming because Wiig.

>>11533339
Also to that end Classics figures go for ridiculous amounts on the secondary market which is bullshit.

>>11533342
>Voiced by a comedian
>Not comic relief

>>11533344
She was also Cheetah in Wonder Woman
Was that comic relief role?
And just for the record, I'm not taking a definitive stance. Roboto could be either one. I'm just saying you can't outright declare it one way or the other until we actually see clips or leaks or reviews.

>>11533355
>Was that comic relief role?
May as well have been

>>11533007
why does Skeletor want Teela when he already got Evil-Lynn?

Now that we’ve hit bump limit, move over to the other thread
>>11529361
>>11529361
>>11529361

>>11533370
Evil-lyn didn't exist at that point in the toyline.
She was a year 2 figure. Teela was the only girl in town at the beginning

The August 26th MC exclusive is confirmed as MV Moss Man

>>11533439
Really? The hints made me think of rio blast

>>11529384
I just really liked the original one better and I don't get why it was so controversial. Things weren't as crammed together.

>>11533754
>I don't get why it was so controversial
Because it looked nothing like the illustration pitch. The new one got crap for also not really looking like the illustration pitch, but Mattel didn't want to listen when people complained this time.

>>11533477
>The hints made me think of rio blast

>>11533754
While bloated this version felt like $300. The new version not so much.

>>11533855
Yes, I get that the new one looks more like the pitch, but if you're gonna charge $300 either way, I'd rather take the old one, that one at least justifies it's cost through more than just pack-in premiums

>>11533754
It's uglier and has more generic features.

"The Evil Horde still exists?! And you dared to serve Hordak?"

That time Tung Lashor served Hordak as a schoolteacher.

Is Revolution good enough to sit through Revaltion again? Or should I just watch the CGI series?

>>11534421
No. They did a fanboy moment at the end for which it gets all the praise

>>11534433
Who would've thought fanboys would've been thst excited for the prospect of President-Elect Andra of the Democratic Republic of Eternos?

>>11534440
>the prospect of President-Elect Andra of the Democratic Republic of Eternos?
Is this a joke or did they actually do that bullshit where the monarchy steps down just because democracy?

>>11534443
It's not a joke.
After they beat Skeletor and realize they shouldn't have let Keldor be king, He-Man's solution is "representative democracy" and Andra gets nominated for the election.
And why was Keldor made king? Because Randor told Adam he couldn't be both He-Man and king because...reasons...so when Keldor rocked up Adam immediately turned over all responsibility to him.
So He-Man establishrs democracy so he can continue to fuck off and not have to be king and just live at Grayskull full time

>>11534448
That is so fucking stupid. Have they not heard of a fucking Regent? Why the hell can't Adam rule 99% of the time (probably 99.9% with Skeletor defeated) and protect Eternia the rest of the time? Why the fuck does modern media have such a massive hate-boner for monarchs? King does not automatically mean bad guy, it also doesn't immediately negate all other forms of government. By all accounts the people of Eternia like King Randor, and they'd probably like Adam as well, especially if they know that he has saved Eternia hundreds of times as He-Man, fabled protector of Castle Grayskull. Fuck setting all that aside, I know they couldn't really use She-Ra stuff, but in the canon of the series Princess Adora would automatically be next in line, so if Adam wasn't allowed the crown because of his duties as He-Man then Queen Adora could take over. This shit makes me so fucking mad.

>>11534443
>Muh raceswap mary sue gets to be the new man at arms ... because she just does ok? there wasn't any one else to take up the mantle that was more deserving ok?

>Muh raceswap mary sue gets to be president elect ... because she just does ok? there was literally no one else but this strong black woman who just showed up hasn't established anything but she's obviously the best candidate to lead because she just does!

wouldn't be surprised if the raceswap mary sue gets to be the new champion of grayskull if they do manage to do a new series

>>11534537
Funny thing is Andra was the one who made Keldor's plan to turn everyone into cyber zombie possible. Yeah, clearly a leader material right there.

>>11534537
>>11535030
I'm someone who would actually defend the first thing...Andra wasn't useless in Revelation, Teela was Sorceress and Duncan was promoted to Man o War and Clamp Chsmp was dead, so yeah, fine, Andra is an OK choice for Man-at-Arms

But the second thing....good God was she a dumbass in Revolution with astoundingly bad judgment. She absolutely should not be doing anything that requires leadership. Of course, even fucking Adam showed judgement so bad that he basically proved he shouldn't be thr fucking King, so I don't think Eternia has a good leadership candidate in the aftermath of the show.

>>11534448
If they make a third season and Andra was elected leader instead of Snout Spout, it'll be unwatchable.

The Snake Lair got backed.
I don't have high hopes for getting Pythonus. I really wish Mattel would hand him over at this point.

Leaked image of MOTU x Barbie

>>11539456
He looks "pacified"