Thread 11530806

Golden Girl and the Guardians of the Gemstones lost to She-Ra Princess of Power in the 1980s. Despite having good Franzetta style dolls for girls.

>>11530806 (OP)
She ra also was backed by being associated with he man

Shes hot tho

>>11530806 (OP)
>This is proof that toys need cartoons to get kids to care about the product

>>11530806 (OP)
The art for this series is so badass

>>11530860
Yeah. I know boys who got both He-Man AND She-Ra toys. Totally unheard of for a little boy to buy "girl's" toys. But the crossover factor really helped

>>11531319
It did get a cartoon though.
Albeit a shitty one.

>>11530806 (OP)
It would be funny if a modern reboot went in the opposite way that She-Ra Princesses of Power did.
Like instead of a lesbian showrunner, the new GG & the GotG would be headed by straight men and goes into a more old school Conan type direction.

>>11530806 (OP)
I always dug the box art for these. The little jewel above her pusy did it for me on her costume.

>>11531441
That would be pretty based. Though I won't lie I'm now imagining a Conan-esque classic Sword and Sorcery style reboot or spiritual successor with tonnes of eroticism, helmed by a "one of the lads" lesbian, at least partly because of the seething from the usual suspects it would generate.
>"Nooooo you can't just make a cool series that panders to the male gaze! You're part of the LGBTOMGWTFBBQ community, you have to make everyone an ugly legbeard and make statements about Current Thing every five seconds! You betrayed us!"
IDK, dykes seem to be either wretched bilious cows or some of the most based women you'll ever meet with very little inbetween.

>>11531434
Which makes the point invalid

>>11531426
>The art for this series is so badass
This. The story books are worth a read just for the art.

>>11531974
How many story books were there?

>>11530806 (OP)
Golden Girl had an animated pilot though.
The line itself sold very well in europe. Must be an US thing.

>>11530806 (OP)
Golden Girl had some media tie-ins.
The problem is that it might be too fantasy.

>>11532248
And thats why it sold better in Europe, because Europe tends to like Fantasy equally as Sci-Fi.

>>11531999
3 x Find Your Own Fate Books
3 x Activity Books
3 x Tele-Story Books
1 x Story Book
1 x European Comic.
1 x Colorform book
Thats what i know of.

>>11530806 (OP)
Yeah no shit. It helps kids to know who the characters are so they can appreciate them more. Even comic books helped a lot with that (back then but not now).

>>11531434
>It did get a cartoon though
>>11532125
>Golden Girl had an animated pilot though.
Is it actually available to watch anywhere? I've only seen a janky thumbnail. Thought it was only screened once in a theater and then became lost media.

>>11532319
Only snippets on YouTube.
I recall watching parts of it as a very young lad. Yeah it could've been a promotional one off thing.

>>11530806 (OP)
>Golden Girl and the Guardians of the Gemstones lost to She-Ra Princess of Power in the 1980s. Despite having good Franzetta style dolls for girls.

She ra had an unfair sales advantage in that they tied the horde to the tail end of the heman line and partnered the show with heman as well. So a lot of young boys still into heman were probably also watching she ra for the horde and purchased a few figures.

Golden Girl was essenitally fighting 2 shows. Maybe 4 properties if you include spellbound by marvel and amethyst by DC.

>>11531319
Super Dinosaur got both, but the toyline got caught short because of piss poor sales. The bigger issue in the examples of Power Players, Super Dinosaur, Robozuna, and Megaman 2018 is the difficulty in circulating media nowadays. Most toy companies now hve since learned to dump everything onto youtube. But they have yet to recognize all that they stand to compete against in order to monopolize children's attention spans nowadays. It's honestly surprising we havent yet seen a toy maker take its cues from Cocomelon/Skibid Toilet/Brainrot nonsense to intentionally tailor the most exploitative ADHD-inducing media franchise imaginable. Maybe we're still in the early stages of such efforts between the Moose toylines for the troonclown show and Mr Antichrist.

>>11531426
I wish more modern toylines and children's media attempted to punch above their weightclass like that nowadays. Everything has been stripped down to its barest bones and tailored to the lowest common denominator for years now. We've ended up instituting the lowest bar standard imaginable and we're seeing the consequences of those actions enmasse now as people defend the worst of the worst dogshit simply because they enjoyed it. Not to repeat myself but this is why you end up with kids, boys especially, going nuts over vidya anime and skibidi toilet. They're underserviced in today's world. All the media made for them talks down to them and in turn they reject it for whatever alternative becomes availible.

>>11532837
If you want to get into the weeds of the sword and sorcery princess wars the story just snowballed further into the 90's. In 89' efforts were made to cook up a PoP styled line of Wonder Woman toys. Same form factor, similar visuals and accessories, but with a whole new cast of OCs outside of Wondy. Unfortunately the line went nowhere, but Mattel just doubled down on two subsequent efforts (both Saban co-productions) in Princess Gwenevire (which itself has a lame modern tumblry ""graphic novel"" revival now) and Tenko.

>>11530806 (OP)
What could be
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/-5bDbuhrvFY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfQNuv8POQA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAIkoArzTr0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUo-tBhnrl0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6qFKjaNmEM

>>11532967
Actually they were not all OCs. Ice and Dolphin were canon DC characters, but the other three dolls were original characters. Including the new cat themed villain who was not just Cheetah. There were also plans for Supergirl to be part of the second wave of dolls but since the first wave of dolls never happened clearly she never happened.

>>11533785
I genuinely lament the cancellation of the line. It's the exact sort of project Wonder Woman's needed for decades now.

>>11533797
I think it would have been neat. Apparently retailers weren't interested because so many other action doll lines had failed up to that point. Which is fair. I think Sailor Moon was the only one of these lines that really did well. Even She-Ra's toyline was considered a failure. The show had high ratings but they skewed male since boys were watching it due to its relation to He-Man.

>>11533823
She-Ra's toy line sold $60 million in 1985, while He-Man sold at least $250 million.
Nielsen ratings for the cartoon were 2.9 million households, the same as He-Man. When interviewed for documentaries, people who worked at Filmation say "A lot of girls watched He-Man, and the boys stayed for She-Ra. Mattel just fumbled the toys."

>>11533852
>"A lot of girls watched He-Man, and the boys stayed for She-Ra. Mattel just fumbled the toys."
Woke lies told by liberal shills. Earlier documentaries had everyone admitting that boys abandoned He-Man once it became associated as being "for girls" after She=Ra came along. Revisionists always lie.

>>11530806 (OP)
>Franzetta style
>Franzetta
Frazetta, moron.

>>11530806 (OP)
Microman did pretty good in Japan. But over here a comic by Marvel did sell it.

And then the biggest counterpoint may be Lego.

I love that 80s fantasy art so much though I wish someone saved it all the obscure toyline art for art books like the heman one.

>>11533450
look at all those five heads

>>11533946
>Woke lies told by liberal shills. Earlier documentaries had everyone admitting that boys abandoned He-Man once it became associated as being "for girls" after She=Ra came along. Revisionists always lie.

depended on your age. The boys that dropped he man were probably already growing out of it or putting their money into transformers or later, tmnt.

I watched she ra with my sister because it was in the animation block with he man. She had some she ra figures but I had some horde figures, which were being sold with the boy toys.

>>11534110
MOTU arguably has the most dedicated archivists within its fandom. Everyday it seems like another Masters fan is hard at work cleaning up, scanning, or in one way or another preserving old media related to the franchise.

The neglect of Micronauts is something worth studying. It went from the biggest toyline of it's day to a historical footnote in less than a decade, It's truly only kept alive by fans at this point, Hasbro is infuriatingly inept with their properties. ROM and Micronauts should be easy sells verbatim and they couldnt manage it even before the pandemic. Tragic.

>>11536848
>ROM and Micronauts

its kind of wild they have abandoned both given their history. Lots of big name characters in each run.

I guess marvel, and now Disney, just hate even attempting the legal battle necessary for doing something with them.

>>11536843
Yes, five heads on the heroes and five heads on the villains.

>>11537064
Blame Barbie. They set the trend for five heads!