Thread 11597919

Should there be a revival?

Yes /thread

>>11597919 (OP)
I think there's a market for it. Polly Pocket got a big push recently, with licensed collector's sets for shit like Stranger Things, The Office, Friends, etc. Mighty Max could do the horror/action equivalent. I'd buy a Terrifier or Nightmare on Elm Street or Robocop themed Mighty Max playset in a heartbeat.

>>11600038
Mattel has Mighty Max-styles sets for the Jurassic World stuff recently.

>>11597919 (OP)
Just reissue them. Playmates seems to be successful with just straight reissues of TMNT figs. They'd have to be smart about it and do some research though. Like which original set sold well and focus on those, and not make a shit ton to flood the market. they could also collab with MOTU origins, Norman, Skullmaster and the original Mighty One can be easily made reusing parts from the CC line.

>>11597919 (OP)
I dont want those teeny tiny compact toys. I want real action figures

I would settle on them just rereleasing the old toys, if they still have the molds. I think this would be way too expensive of a toyline today for most collectors to be happy with it.

>>11597919 (OP)
Should there be a revival? No. You cant do that like 1994 with less competition for the kids attention.
Can you do that? Sure, but it needs several adjustments in my eyes.

>>11597919 (OP)
Depends. The whole appeal of the original was how edgy and detailed the playsets were and how surprisingly fucked up the cartoon was.
I do expect 20$ Doom Zones though.

>>11601886
We just has a little /co/ MM thread. >>>/co/150878036

If Mattel really wants to test the waters for a MM revival they should release Masters of The Universe micro-playsets (Including Skull Mountain-esque Castle Grayskull and Snake Mountain sets) so they can testrun things like features, details minifigre articulation, etc.
And given how the Stranger Things Polly Pocket set shows they're willing to do collabs with more action-oriented IPs do stuff like Transformers, Power Rangers (With nods to the Bandai sets), etc.

>>11601954
I know. I was the OP for both.

>>11597919 (OP)
I hope they re release the old ones, the new weird bootleg ones are underwhelming.

>>11597919 (OP)
Mattel is very aware and at conventions/trade shows it comes up. They dodge the question pretty regularly. The big problem with Mighty Max is that it is horror. And horror is not in. In the early 90's horror was big for kids. Tons of TV shows, cartoons and things that were spooky all year round.

It's dropped off significantly. Lego knows this. They commonly do horror related sets, but they don't sell as well. Mighty Max tried to pivot away from horror when it was around, but then it just becomes generic sci-fi/fantasy micro sets.

I think they're stuck. What do you do? Aliens, robots, mythical monsters or zombies, cyborgs and gothic monsters. Do you do a griffin or you do dracula? There's a big difference when it comes to marketing.

>>11603649
>horror is not in

Poppy play time, skibidi toilet, five night at Freddy, the in-between places, radio head, children like horror you goddamn retard

>>11603649
Horror cycles in and out with kids depending on the generation. Once these weak gen alphas age out, the new generation will hopefully have balls

>>11603693
anon gen alpha love horror

>>11601886
>The whole appeal of the original was how edgy and detailed the playsets were and how surprisingly fucked up the cartoon was.
And we all know both of those things are not going to return in this day and age so I'm fine without a revival. Not everything needs to be dug out of its grave as a decayed zombie so it can prey on nostalgia.

>>11603447
Ok, thats why it felt similar.

Nah, it has limited appeal, if it ever does happen it'll be some quick revival on mattel creations as a one time thing since it won't gather enough interest to do more.
Any real revival would be heavily limited, very different from what we used to love, only include one or two figures, the playset would be almost empty and it'd have shitty redesigns. The dream is long dead.
As a hardcore MM fan, I would always get excited anytime Mattel acknowledged the franchise with some cheap exclusive merch they've done from time to time or whenever they started making playsets for other brands and it has never come to anything. But yeah, I know deep in my heart even if it did it'd be shitty.

>>11603678
And yet, nothing you mentioned is a major toy brand. We're talking about toys, not video games. How about something that has a successful TV show to go with it? Also nearly everything you mentioned is niche and not what is "in" you old man.
>>11603693
It is coming back in movies, and if it stays it is likely to trickle back down to kid brands. It has never been at it's peak popularity like it was in the 90's when you had competing horror brand. Are You Afraid of The Dark, Goosebumps, Choose Your Own Nightmare, Addams Family, Beetlejuice, Casper, Aaahh!! Real Monsters, Creepy Crawlers, Monster in my Pocket. My god, I could keep going cause there are actual examples from the 90's unlike today.

>>11603904
> if it ever does happen it'll be some quick revival on mattel creations as a one time thing since it won't gather enough interest to do more.
This is the truth sadly. Cost of everything has gone up and toy production processes have changed. New MM sets would cost so much more for the same offering as older ones and what little fans are left would balk at the price. I think there are also some issues with the rights or something.

>>11601366
>Just reissue them.
Do you seriously think the tooling from many decades ago is just laying around waiting to be used again? LOL They would need to re-tool everything from scratch if they ever wanted to 're-release' anything. That's just as costly as making any thing totally new. The costs of making the same sets at the same quality with the same level of paint would be so expensive today. It would not sell well at all.

>>11603906
Kids are into Wednesday nowadays.

>>11603906
>And yet, nothing you mentioned is a major toy brand
fnaf is, the pta don't like horror because women suck

>>11603917
>This is the truth sadly. Cost of everything has gone up
Only for Broke ass americans

>>11603972
No, costs for all due to rising labor and production costs in China, dumbass. Hence why many companies are moving production to other countries where the cost of labor is still cheaper.

>>11604015
why are blokees so cheap, why is AliExpress so cheap for non Americans, why are you a fucking dumbass

>>11603963
She got a polly pocket set

>>11604029
Everything can be produced with teeny tiny profit margins when you aren't shackled by being a multi billion dollar corporation, dumbass. All the Hasbros and Mattels are forced to meet specific margins to keep shareholders happy.

>>11604082
right so Americans are the problem

my favorite series of toys ever, I would buy rereleased originals if they looked 1:1 exact, paints n shit, I wouldn't care they weren't the originals I just don't want to pay the insane markup from grognard toy merchants I have almost all of them still but I'm missing parts here or there like was going to happen being a kid. Thankfully my parents taught me to keep them all in one place, I used to keep em in a koolaid bursts box. Also they pared very well with micro machines and my super van city

jannies getting titled in here over nothing, good lord.

If they bring MM back, I don't want it half assed. Do the glorious art, do the horror, do everything.

>>11604062
If you tweak that a big it "kinda" has a MM feel especially the flytrap.

>>11605478
I agree. The only Polly Pocket give away is the form.

>>11605496
The Stranger Things set also has a gimmick that could work for new MM sets if done right.
Same thing if Mattel decides to test the waters for a MOTU micro-playset line as a test-run.

>>11605510
Do you mean this middle stage part? Thats something they did since the 90s

>>11603741
Damn, I forgot how grisly the shark head one was.

>>11606952
Horror and ugly things are always grisly. This set MM apart from Polly Pocket.

>>11606921
>>11606922
>>11607033
>>11607038
Those were different companies though.

I do like these types of small toys, they're my favourite stuff to collect, but if there's ever a new line of boy-oriented micro toy playsets it needs interconnectivity between them. I want to be able to set them on the floor and connect them together for a big play set. Kinda like those Pokémon backpacks you see, just smaller.

>>11607045
Primal Rage is from Playmates but the idea is long known. So it shouldnt be a big thing to come up with this idea.

>>11607050
I agree. I proposed in an old thread that they should make little rubber plastic bridges that connects sets together. Kinda like you can connect Lego Mario sets.

>>11607081
They did something similar with Power Rangers playsets.

>>11607083
I know, my mom bought me the black ranger one when I was like 5. I was thinking about it when I posted the idea. I still have it, it was one of my favourite toys when I was a kid. I never knew what the computer thing was for because she threw the packaging away and I never got a second one.

How to revive Mighty Max;
1) Release the cancelled 4th wave Doom Zones/sets aimed at collectors. It's guaranteed sales from nerds like me and will quickly generate free publicity and interest in the series overall.
2) if this does well, do an arbitrary 'classics' or 'retro' re-release of the original Doom Zones and Horror heads, especially the ones with repaints that are now extremely expensive. Hits both collectors and the emerging current gen market who are priced out of vintage.
3) Possibly re-re-release those same Doomzones again but this time under a Mighty Max 'Premium Collectors' range with better paint apps and a higher price tag.

If all of this miraculously performs well, re-release the larger playsets and other side products. If its going really, really well, release completely new Mighty Max Doomzones and products

>>11604322
I was planning on completing the set but man did the variants go completely out of control price wise. Shouldnt have passed on them all pre-covid

If unreleased Playmates TMNT stuff can see the light of day in the hands of small indie producers and poly pocket got another go by Mattel I have hope that Mighty Max will one day get a second coming.

>>11603649
>And horror is not in
>five nights at freddy's is one of the biggest kid franchises out there

>>11607209
They look nice for $6.99. And i dont know what you mean with the computer thing.
So i searched a pic of the packaging.

>>11607806
>this one successful franchise means horror is in
If horror is so in, why isn't there more of it? And what do you think niche means?

>>11609040
>Saw
>Freddy
>Jason
>Halloween
>Silent Hill
>Resident Evil
>Freddys
>Poppy
It is very popular. But only manifested in /tv/ and /v/.
You could argue that gross stuff is like horror, that was and will be still popular in toys.

>>11605510
That is NOT my Mighty Max. Those sets (most modern ones for any line) rely so much on huge stickers and lack all the sculpted detail and painted parts. Like others have said, you can do a MM revival, but it would either be budget cut to death to get it at an affordable price point, or it will be faithful to the originals but priced very high. Neither is good.

>>11607727
None of that will ever happen though without a new movie or something. Releasing anything still requires totally new tooling since none of the old stuff exists. That's wildly expensive, and toy companies never do that unless they have large orders from retailers. Retailers who will never carry expensive micro sets of a 30+ year old property.

Would ~$40 Doom Zones sell well? Doubtful. That's probably what they'd need to cost to make up for the expensive tooling investment and very tiny audience for them without any new media

>>11609356
Kids only care about the last two, and only as videogames/memes/dumb videos. The actual merch for both franchises sucks and they don't give a damn about it.

What you guys fail to understand is that there's a difference between classic horror kids in the 90s loved and gen alpha meme horror content. The first translates great as a toyline and caters to what kids wanted as toys back then, the second does not as they will rather watch videos about it. Do you think backrooms playsets with nothing inside other than boring walls will sell well too?

>>11609356
lol holy fucking out of touch. Freddy and jason? Dude we're talking about toys and kids, not movies that gen x is gripping to like they're still important. A lot of the things you're mentioning aren't "in" they're dead franchises. There's horror movies doing really well right now, but you're so disconnected to what actually is in you couldn't be bothered to mention them. Like, Sinners or Terrifier. Even still, are kids into these things? FNAF is the only one you mentioned with a presence in toy aisles, but even that is starting to run its course.

The real issue with relaunching Mighty Max is Mattel is actually doing well with boy toy brands at the moment. Jurassic and He-men are selling. This is historical unusual for them. Mattel has never really gotten this market before so long. The way store space and shelving works, Mattel would have to give up one brand to make room for another. The likely choice is he-man or street sharks. Once some.

I think there needs to be a serious fan campaign to show interest. Mattel is using "Polly Pocket" to sell branded miniatures. And Jurassic has their own line coming.

https://creations.mattel.com/products/polly-pocket-back-to-the-future-compact-jcc20

>>11609470
My nephew who loves the FNaF’s franchise still buys the toys for them.

>>11609457
Indeed. Thats Polly Pocket style. And it will always look cheap.

>>11609470
You are right. We talk about Goosebump and higher frightening stuff. This more a thing for teenager and older, who outgrew toys.
But you cant unsee that kids love monsters and gross stuff which is horror. So Jurassic World and other mystery monsters sell. Something like Grossery Gang sold very well.

>>11609517
>responds to /tv/ and /v/ mentioned as comparisment
>says “muuuhh /toy/“
You cant read or are very dumb. You decide.
Kids are into horror and griss stuff, Dinosaurs are horror stuff in a sense. And they sell.

>>11609919
>dinosaurs are horror
hahaha fucking reaching...... Dinosaurs have always been in, but they're not "horror"
If horror is "in" you'd be able to name toylines that are doing well. Thus justifying mighty max being a horror toyline that could do well. That IS the point. Saying there's long standing horror video game franchises instead justifies mighty max to come back as a game, not a toyline. Calling me dumb doesn't change reality, shows how little of an argument you have. When it comes to kids and toylines, which is the relevant point, horror is NOT in. You could just concede you're wrong. Horror is niche and you're making a fool of yourself with stuff like freddy and jason being "in"

>>11610047
You never watched a Jurassic Park/World movie. Especially the first one is pure sci-fi horror. Jurassic Park/World toys are “in“.

>>11610307
The argument is, horror is not in and thus would be struggle to market as a toyline. FNAF is the only successful horror toyline, but even that toyline is tailing off. Then again FNAF is old at this point, so I'll give you that's not a good reason to dismiss it.

But.....Now you're trying to argue a sci-fi/horror movie is a "pure" split genre. First off, you're own argument is wrong. Is it sci-fi or horror? That's not pure if it's both. Jurassic Park is far more an action/adventure movie and you're trying to say it's horror for what? You seriously think that marketing executives, parents, kids would say they're horror movies? Why go down this path? To win this debate that horror is in and mighty max would be a successful toyline? Hulk is horror, Avengers is a horror movie. Minecraft has spooky things, it's horror. Pokemon too, also Horror. Everything is horror and words have no meaning.

How about this, get off the what is and isn't horror and sell Mighty Max to kids of today. What about it would appeal to them and why would it succeed?

>>11610312
weird a toyline that ended up at retail outlet stores, that never got a wave 2 cause it failed is being posted right now with no context.

>>11610339
Not him but it did get a wave 2 its just they lost the license and couldn't put out the Mummy figure

I dont know why they posted it either

>>11610347
>>11610339
Thats a Horror line that was produced.

>>11610338
Jurassic Park are Dinosaurs. Dinosaurs are monsters, thats why T-Rex, Stegosaurs and Triceratops are the most made toys. Not Hadrosaurs or Hypsilophodon. Monsters are Horror. Dinosaurs are eating humans.
When you look at He-Man, the villians are monsters, Skeletor is basically a horror villian. Turtles are mutants, they are basically The Fly toys.
Thats why body horror is a term. And everything has horror parts. The Avengers fought Mephisto and demons. They fought even a villian group called Night Shift, consisting of horror characters. Captain America was a Werwolf once.
The problem is that you think too narrow, because Mighty Max isnt much different than other gross or monster toylines.

>>11607727
I see what you did there!

>>11608260
The "computer" stand that is used to connect the sets together. It's down there. I had no idea what it was used for.

>>11610434
I had that snake one (#3 middle left) as a kid, and I wish I could find it again it was so cool

>>11610391
>Jurassic Park are Dinosaurs. Dinosaurs are monsters, thats why T-Rex, Stegosaurs and Triceratops are the most made toys. Not Hadrosaurs or Hypsilophodon. Monsters are Horror. Dinosaurs are eating humans.

You're really grasping at straws here. I was a 90s kid, when the dinosaur craze reached its peak with JP. NOBODY considered dinosaurs horror back then. The most well known dinosaurs are just the ones more recognizable and cool. T-Rex looks badass, Triceratops has three horns, Stagosaurus has spikes. That's all there is to it.
Also Stagosaurus and Triceratops are herbivores so going by your dumb argument they're not monsters because they don't eat humans.

>>11603739
What's with the Orange Max?

>>11610371
And failed, it was ended before they could finish the line up.

>>11607727
The chinese company making new mighty max stuff has now made two of the cancelled items with full production steel molds, but they've been complete and total jackasses about it and made them $600+ each and limited it to a few week pre-order.

That said I am still enjoying their new sets. People have balked at the prices and the style being off, but style feels pretty close and I think the prices on their normal stuff is remarkably close to what we could expect from a true MM revival if it were to keep the level of paint that we're used to from the originals.

Realistically I think you need to embrace the changes in manufacturing and lean into what that can offer. Mattel makes unique molded 6 color dinosaurs for Jurassic that sell for $8. They do this my molding a ton of different parts in different colors. Their teeth and tongues are usually separate pieces, some have individual claw pieces, the main body plastics have multicolor swirls, utilize translucent and additives (essentially glitter/confetti) to make their skin have more depth and realism. They wind up having eye paint and like 3 dabs of other paint and generally look pretty detailed and great.

If you were to apply this to MM, with the shells molded in one color, the inner trays in another, a glue in "detail" parts mold in a third, and a movable accessory mold in a fourth (for things like gates and trap doors, swinging axes or whatever else) and utilize the detailed stickers layered between the shell and tray that already were an iconic staple of the original MM, you could definitely produce sets with minimal paint that still have a lot of detail and color variance. Save the paint for the minis and some details on the outer shell face. It wouldn't be the same, but it would still look very good with smart design work, and be able to be reasonably priced.

>>11609912
>>11609919
>>11609921
I don't know why I bothered typing out all the specific nonsense of potential manufacturing solutions >>11610696 here when these exist.

I don't think these Jurassic sets are very good, but they *look* good and prove that a MM revival is very possible. The issue with the jurassic sets is from a design perspective- there's not enough interesting things in the sets and they don't make a lot of sense from a storytelling perspective. So you need better designers. But the resource allocation is there. The sets have more than enough paint and parts to be good. It's just that the designs themselves are underbaked and a little baffling- there's a bunch of engineering in the mosasaur to include an electronic feature and lift up the water and boat slightly, but it doesnt actually let you do anything underneath or have an interesting reason for existing. This set is almost really good, but needed another pass for features that make sense and fostering a better sense of play (where's the humans, space for characters to really interact, have the boat either be a removable item or large enough to have deck space for a battle on the film and include a breakaway piece and a flip function to knock a character off, etc, have the underwater section have some dinosaur skeletons and marine life, include a large mosasaur opening mouth like in the other smaller playset etc).

I think the lab section of this set is excellent. Looks great, has a neat play feature, and has some space for minis to be placed.

>>11610455
Oh, my bad. I thought you mean a computer thing on the Black Ranger playset. Lol.
Yeah, thats the connecting bridge.

>>11610538
The “Mighty Max Conquers the Palace of Poison“ is really nice.

>>11610737
The unfolding is quite an impressive idea. Forming a path ove4 a scorpion pit, kinda.

>>11610549
I just try to make you understand that Horror isnt a clear defined genre when you look at toys. I would even say, just to make you angry, we never had a horror toy series. So your argument is kinda obsolet.
You are right that JP isnt really a Horror thing. But my point is that Horror applying to toys is kinda hard. Pic for example doesnt include any Horror theme. Only sci-fi, monsters and dinosaurs.

>herbivores
Isnt really an argument. There are many horror monster that dont eat their victims. It is about the thorns and how they easily can kill you like a bull, like a minotaur.

>>11610585
First Mighty Max figure they included in the earlier sets. Some say they are a prototype thing that were included in the earliest production wave§.

Micro playsets are really cool and I dont understand why IPs like Adventure Time or Rick and Morty didn't get used for them when they were at peak popularity.

I love MM and I think they are a popular enough collector item but that's only relative to other extreme niche items. TMNT, GI Joe and stuff like Street Sharks getting waves of retro re-releases makes me optimistic MM could one day get something but I have no idea if they actually sell well from a corpo standpoint.

>>11610696
Which Chinese company?

>>11610763
PeariA studio, here's their restoration based off scans from a surviving prototype. They are attempting to source further unmade prototypes and have some leads.

>>11610742
You keep grasping at straws hard. If you're unable to recognize media that falls on the horror genre and classic horror themes that's on you.
I'm not denying that MM has sets based on sci-fi and dinosaurs. There's plenty of adventure in the franchise. But it relies heavily on classic monsters and themes. The whole point of this conversation was if kids would be interested in something like this, and you keep bending backwards to prove it does when reality tells otherwise.

>herbivores
>Isnt really an argument.
I was just using your own nonsense explanation dude. You're the one who said dinosaurs are monsters because they eat people. To you everything can be horror, at that point the word loses all meaning.

And at the end of the day a return of MM now would fucking suck. The level of sculpting and gory details is something you're not going to see this day and age. Everything that made the franchise great is going to be neutered, so what's the point? I'll rather have good memories of it and enjoy my collection instead of seeing it resurrected as a pathetic shadow of what it was

>>11610706
I dont think that they are that bad. Some MM playsets dont have more play features. But i agree that it feels a little bit plain. Maybe it is the hidden stuff you mentioned or the lack of mini figures or attachable stuff.

>>11610696
Thats a good post. I guess there is a difference between estimated numbers you sell. Jurassic World sells like hotcakes. MM are considered fandom stuff, that means you will sell low numbers, means higher prices.
At the moment MM is a black box to manufacturers or investors.

>>11610833
Would kids love MM? Yes they would. Would it be enough, would MM win against other IPs and would they be too expensive? Maybe.
Dont move the goalpost from being a horror or monster theme to if MM could survive against other stuff or get kids attention.

>dinosaurs are monsters because they eat people
What i never said. I said some carnivors do, but overall on how dangerous they look. I even pointed out how a Triceratops can kill people, not eat.
I said that Horror overlaps with alot of stuff. Thats why there was never a horror toy series, because they always combine different points. MM combines various genres. It has do much sci-fi and adventures, fighting villians like duperheroes do.
>And at the end of the day a return of MM now would fucking suck.
Thats on another page. I think too that it would be hard to publish MM series. Maybe as hard as the 90s, just differently. And companies are more for easy money or cost reduced productions.
At the moment the bet on toy series is low and investors pour money into other risky stuff at the moment.

>>11610833
He's lost man, he refuses to recognize a colloquial term. He doesn't even realize he's talking to multiple people, that's how narrow minded he is, that only one person could possibly disagree with him. He said freddy and jason as examples of what is currently in.completely out of touch with what kids are into.

>Everything that made the franchise great is going to be neutered,
I agree and this is my take away. Anyone can make micro playsets, and this is essentially what cut into MM. MM had some qualities about it that just wouldn't be done today. So even do MM? Just make a new micro playset toy. Otherwise its just the MM name slapped onto new toys.

>>11610696
What you're describing still isn't very cost effective. Tooling is expensive no matter how you break it down. MM style sets will need a LOT of tooling. There are several other factors you aren't taking into consideration as well such as what colors each part will be molded in, what specific type of plastic, etc. Because if those are different, that's extra things that have to be done to the tools to separate out parts into groups/more molds or to build shut off valves into the runners of the molds to allow some parts to be molded in one color and others in another color all within the same molds.

But at the end of the day, none of this matters because no toy company will pour the investment into something like MM without a ton of retail support for guaranteed sales. The Jurassic World dinos could not be further from being similar to how MM needs to / could be produced. The Jurassic toys are in all major retailers worldwide and are moving tons of units. MM would be such a little niche property that would be solely dependent on online sales.

>be able to be reasonably priced
There is just no way that any MM sets could be reasonably priced at all. The volume needed to make up the tooling would be so high that they'd bake that cost into the unit cost. It's also a property that relies on lots of tooling for the large outer shells. There's only so many ways you can repaint or repurpose those and that's unfortunately some of the biggest tooling expenses, even if the insides were more modular and could have many different parts slapped in there.

>>11610749
>stuff like Street Sharks getting waves of retro re-releases makes me optimistic
Didn't that crash and burn? Collectors rejected them, and the people that bought them to play with them found that that had shitty QC and were falling apart not long after being made. I just don't think any companies are going to be eager to produce purely nostalgia bait lines that won't have retail appeal.

Look at Hasbro's current Tron Haslab for 3.75" figures. They know the target market for that (since it's not a retail item) is superrrrrr small so they seemingly hiked the price up on the sets to make up for the anticipated low sales volume. And guess what? Nobody wants to pay that. Everyone is saying "Why should I pay X for these when if they were at retail they'd cost Z??". But something like that would never have gone to retail in the first place. It's the same as MM. It's pay astronomical prices for things that did not used to cost nearly that much, or have nothing at all

>>11611122
One of the world's largest companies could easily push enough sales to make a first couple of waves go over. You can guarantee that retailers weren't clamoring on the sidelines for masters of the universe shit to come back after 15 years but they made that come back huge. Sales into Walmart and Target alone would be enough for them to have a more or less reasonable price.

>>11611140
You are fucking delusional, dude. MOTU is not similar to Mighty Max at all. Action figures are a much easier form factor to sell than micro playsets. MOTU has also had successful toylines running almost continuously for decades non stop, in addition to several new cartoons over the years. Some as recently as last year. MOTU type figures are are easy in terms of tooling budget because many figures are just the sam base body with a few add on parts. MM playsets are almost always wholly unique. Like the Jurassic World toy comparison, MOTU and MM couldn't possible be more different in terms of style, product, public awareness, and retailer interest.

>>11611140
>>11611227
MM is possible, but i have to agree that it needs a big campaign to get the price to a retail price.
The Jurassic World comparisment wasnt about the IP and that MM would work similar. It was just that both have a similar monster and adventure theme appeal. So kids would love it. But i know that Jurassic Park has a different media presence.

>>11611140
>>11611227
MM is possible, but i have to agree that it needs a big campaign to get the price to a retail price.
The Jurassic World comparisment wasnt about the IP and that MM would work similar. It was just that both have a similar monster and adventure theme appeal. So kids would love it. But i know that Jurassic Park has a different media presence.

>>11607734
awesome

>>11611139
Thats the problem. Is their shitty project the problem or the small fans-base?

Sucks Four Horsement left Mattel decades ago.

>>11611519
This one was always my favorite.

>>11611550
A company like 4H who pack so much detail into stuff and who's digital sculpting can actually look like traditional clay sculpting still would be perfect for a line like Mighty Max. Imagine how detailed and gross looking the outer shells would be.
They are always looking for ways to stretch their home grown IP like Mythic Legions and Saurozoic Warriors into other things like board games and video games, but actually applying those IP to different types of product like micro playsets would be neat. Then if those were successful with their collector fan base, maybe they could approach Mattel for the MM license.

>>11611227
You sound knowledgeable on the surface but then say stuff like "MOTU had successful toylines running for decades nonstop" which is total nonsense. MOTU at it's retail height lasted a few years, then took a 10 year break, then lasted a couple of years, then took another long break. I think origins has actually been in stores longer than original MOTU at this point. Don't bother bringing up Classics because it was a direct to consumer collector thing and completely different from what we're talking about.

I acknowledged in detail how modern production could be applied to MM. Just like Jurassic it could pump out new molds and use them for one or two repaints. It would need a push, but if you think that target and walmart aren't buying micro toys you're delusional. Star Wars, Jurassic, and countless IP free blind box stuff through Moose toys and others line the shelves. If Mattel builds it, if they put it in every retail catalogue and trade show and sales rep, like everything else they do at retail, they would be able to get it in stores for a comparable price to other retail toys. Period.

>>11611227
If Mattel REALLY wanted to test the water for a MM revial AND extend Masters of The Universe to a wider toy audience, they would greelight MOTU micro-playsets of certain characters disembodied heads and Skull Mountain-esque Castle Grayskull and Snake Mountain sets.

>>11611579
The Skull Dungeon became the playset to represent Mighty Max toys.

>>11611584
Delusional. Retail didn't even want to carry the toys for the latest Marvel movies but you think a dead franchise with zero relevancy and media in many decades has a spot and getting shelf space? There is ZERO chance of retailers wanting to carry MM stuff with no proven sales or new media. Zero shot.

>>11611579
I sadly agree with >>11611849
Just putting out MM playsets wouldnt be enough.

>>11611983
You need a good campaign or hook for the retail or customers when you go for something like a kickstarter.

>>11611849
Adults bought more toys for themselves than for any other age group in 2024. Big store retailers where Im from have no variety and have been peddling the same oversaturated star wars/marvel slop for years wondering why no-one is interested. Meanwhile smaller toy stores for vintage and 'adult' toys are doing great. Id say its the opposite of your interpretation and its actually time for Mattel, Hasbro and retailers to take some risks and make higher quality products. Its also a huge case that zoomers are more into videogames and buying pokemon cards, they have horribly stunted imaginations and toys do nothing for their ADHD/reel addled brains.

>>11611738
Yet it never got a show adaptation for some reason.

>>11612282
Kinda weird. But i guess Frankenstein was too generic from series 1? So they went for “cooler“ playsets?

>>11612277
LOL. I'm sure Mattel and retailers would just loooooove to take a multi million dollar gamble when there are plenty of other IPs that are confirmed to be popular and already do have current media. The toy and retail industry works differently in your little head apparently.

>>11612348
Universal Monsters would be another fun crossover with Mighty Max. Frankenstein Monster, Drac, Wolfman, Creature, Mummy. Plenty of neat options there.

>>11612374
Thats a nice idea. You could do alot of cross-overs. But do Universal Momsters have a big draw since the cinematic universe flopped.

>>11612277
I think adults are a different beast. They have a higher expectations or look at price/quality. And not every nostalgia baiting works. See Tron kickstarter.

>>11612624
But it's in, didn't you know horror is in? Kids love borris Karloff and bela Lugosi.

>>11613165
Kids like Mummies, Vampires and Werwolves. Goosebumps is trending. So why pay royalties when you can use or create your own Vampire or Mummy? But you are that Borris Karloff is a big draw with /tv/ and adults.
Tom Cruises Mummy movie is getting traction and is getting a second movie next year.

>>11613191
You know way too much about what kids are into. Also that tom cruise mummy movie is not getting a sequel next year, I don't know where you pulled that out of your ass.

>>11613297
I know stuff. And i can connect the dot, substract and add clues.
And you are right that i mixed something up. I saw a report from a cinema website that the Tom Cruise Mummy movie got a decent streaming success especially on Halloween. Than that the Mummy movie get a reboot. I thought that it is a reboot of Tom Cruises movie, but it seems to be just a reboot of the Mummy.

>>11613577
>I know stuff
>immediately admits he was wrong
What you're saying is, you just say shit with no evidence to back it up. A movie release is an obvious thing to be wrong about, you've likely be wrong about a lot more but it's harder to prove. The burden of proof rests on you, prove kids would like a MM revival.

>>11613836
>I know stuff =/= I know everything
>I know stuff =/= I am always correct
It might be semantic, but sometimes it is important to understand sentences.
I never said i know the truth. And i get the feeling that you dont understand the concept of having an opinion.
>prove kids would like a MM revival.
Polly Pocket is successfull, Jurassic World is successfull. Jurassic World publishes micro sets. Goosebumps is still selling, they even made comic adaptations of their books.
Kids loved The Owl House. Hotel Transylvania got 4 movies, the fourth movie was mildly successfull because the new director was bad and it went streaming.
Kids shows like “ Monster Loving Maniacs“ are still made. Mighty Max adventures like “ Nate is Late“ are made.
Kids like monsters and gross things. Thats why Grossery Gang was big, thats why slime toys were a big trend and those slime poopers.
Kids like adventures.
Skibidi toilet was trending, all those fnaf, digital circus, poppy playtime. Question is if this was like the Alien toy series, were adults and teens with social media passed it down to kids being interested in those creepy pasta.
Because Mighty Max is horror but its an adventure series that features monsters and tho horror.
I see a bigger problem that you need to gets kids (and teens and adults) attention. And that the price point is not too high.

>>11614166
>I never said i know the truth.
That's the idea, I'm pointing out you don't and are spreading lies.

When you're wrong about facts, conveniently you admit you don't know everything. Yet, you do know enough to form opinions on how kids feel. You couldn't actually share how you know things about what kids like. Just saying "I know stuff" doesn't back up your claim. Yet, you've made it so you don't have to back up your claim since yea, you don't know everything. See how convenient this is for you? It's bullshit meant to protect your position no matter what. It's some flat earther logic.

Most people base their opinions on facts. If I said "kids love cigarettes" that could be my opinion, but where's anything to give it weight? I could say kids see Bugs Bunny smoke, e-cigs are really popular with celebrities, lots of video games feature cigarette smoking, anime characters chain smoke, they sell fake cigarettes on halloween. Look how I backed up my opinion? You really can't disagree with me, kids love cigarettes.

What I am saying and you're essentially agreeing with, your opinions are baseless. You don't know facts and form opinions without them. At the end of the day you just want MM back, regardless of the facts. Your opinion is, it should come back and you justify it's return by forming the opinion kids would like it, to argue it would succeed, despite facts. Your starting position was not "I see trends and thus I think kids would like MM" it's you want more MM and are doing mental gymnastics to defend your position with no facts.

>>11614253
>I'm pointing out you don't and are spreading lies.
I dont spread lies. It is all about arguments and opinions. Thats the concept of 4chan and everyone knows that.
>Hotel Transylvania got 4 movies, so there must be enough demand
>Jurassic Park/World is still getting toys, so monster are still indemand
It is not as if i didnt give you any reason for my arguments.

>>11614714
Yea, your argument is weak as fuck and your opinion isn't based on reality.
>Jurassic Park/World is still getting toys, so monster are still indemand
Cause it keeps getting movies you dumbfuck. It had a movie just a few months ago with another coming and..... Dinosaurs have always been a solid toy, it's why multiple toy companies make dinosaur toys. But there it is. Dinosaurs = monsters are are still in demand. They're not the same, no one thinks they are and yes that's a lie. You just spread one. Is english your second language? Like honestly. Cause you speak like you don't understand terms.

>>11614804
>They're not the same
They are not the same but they fullfill the same fascination. They are so beloved because they so dangerous, so monstrous. Noone needs a Hadrosaur or Hypsylophodon, because they are not monstrous enough. You get one in a wave and thats it. Mostly as prey and if a Hadrosaur than a Parasaurolophus, because he looks special.
>your opinion isn't based on reality
>that's a lie.
Understand, everything here is a mere opinion. Why do you keep gettimg back to “lies“?

>It had a movie just a few months ago with another coming
And thats what i keep saying. I see that the problem is that you need to get kids attention.

>>11615047
So many carnivors.

>>11615046
>Why do you keep gettimg back to “lies“?
Because you're trying redefine terms like "horror" and "monster" which circles back to words have no meaning. Do you know what an fact is? Do you know what definitions are? You're why MM topics die dude. This one is only alive cause of me.

>>11615078
It seems that you try to redifine the terms. Opinions or arguments are not “lies“. I dont redefine "horror" or "monster", i apply them differently than what your opinion is. I think that they adress a similar aspect in kids. And those terms are not very clear outlined to begin with.
>fatcs
But we talk about opinions and arguments.


>You're why MM topics die dude
I think you (or some anon with a similar attitude) are the reason it dies. You only helped to generate some posts between you and me.

But we runmin circles. I think

I could raise the question, is Mighty Max even Horror?
First Wave.
Doomzones: Horror, Fantasy, Mutant/Monsters, Sci-Fi, Horror/Adventure, Sci-Fi
Horrorheads: Mutant Sci-Fi, Sci-Fi Sci-Fi, Horror, Fantasy/Monsters, Fantasy/Monsters, Dinosaurs, Horror.
Than Skull Mountain: Fantasy.

>>11615315
>It seems that you try to redifine the terms.
No, you are. You keep watering down terms like horror and monsters and won't admit terms are generally accepted things and thus facts and not opinions.
>i apply them differently than what your opinion is.
Yea, incorrectly, and it's not my opinion, I am not society, it is a term used in common parlance.
>And those terms are not very clear outlined to begin with.
That's the issue. You are wrong. It is not an opinion and you are fudging it and arguing its a difference of opinion. It's not. The outline is clearer than you think, talk to more people. E-mail someone at Mattel and ask them what they think horror is. Seriously, do it. See if they reply and agree MM is horror.

>>11615447
is there a full set of these?

>>11615945
I only know of those two. Pic i posted exists in divided extra pics for the series.

>>11615641
Yes you are redefining terms, you try to pose arguments and opinions as facts. Mostly your opinions.
And what is horror is a wide array what can be horror. Jurassic Park for example are horror movies. The Frankenstein Dinosaurs Indominus is a perfect example for a horror monster. Or the Distortus Rex.
The problem we have is that a Monster and Horror movie have overlapping things. There is a big grey area where you can use stylistic methods from both“Worlds“.

>>11615964
>Yes you are redefining terms
Name one term I redefined.
>Jurassic Park for example are horror movies.
The Fast and Furious movies are family movies. See how Im right and wrong at the same time? I know the english language is hard.

We're going in circles, do words have meanings or what? Point is, you can have your opinion and say whatever you want, but multiple people have pointed out how stupid you're being. You keep conceding the argument by moving the goal post. Mighty Max isn't horror now? Which is too bad, cause as you said horror is super in with kids, so now Mighty Max has no chance since it's not horror. Just talk about the toys, stop acting like you get people, trends or anything that normal people know about. You're clearly not normal, let it go.

>>11616087
>pose arguments and opinions as facts
Read further.
>The Fast and Furious movies are family movies.
I never saw them, do they kill alot and splash blood around? Because i can see them as action family movies.
>We're going in circles, do words have meanings or what?
Sysiphus. But the problem is that you keep going back to your narrow semantic and strict non-existent genre borders.
And like i pointed out is that even Mighty Max doesnt serve the stereotypical perception of horror toy series that you have.
But we can always talk about anything else.