How can I become a digital nomad in two years? Willing to grind 10+ hours a day for two or three years to learn a skill. My list:

1) day trading: hard but doable if you grindmaxx? already have decent investing knowledge. seems the most appealing
2) online business: seems way oversaturated. I don't know anything about running a business and the idea of trying to appeal to normies and their "trends" seems like hell
3) marketing/SEO/blogging: seems like a scam but what do I know
4) programming: not enough of a dork or smart enough
5) finish my degree (accounting) and officemaxx until I have enough skill to demand a remote job or make my own company

Im 23 so I have time but I really want to pick one thing and stick with it until it works. But it seems like everything hasa 90%+ failure rate.

>>2785201 (OP)
You can teach online, but the pay sucks

>>2785201 (OP)
>2021 called they want their social media scam back

It's 2025. Find a new grift to latch on to.

>>2785201 (OP)
>1) day trading: hard but doable if you grindmaxx? already have decent investing knowledge. seems the most appealing
Day trading is a scam, you will eventually lose all your money. It's not a job, it's gambling, you may be up for a while but eventually you will lose it all. Consider it as a side hustle perhaps but don't put all your eggs in this basket.

>2) online business: seems way oversaturated. I don't know anything about running a business and the idea of trying to appeal to normies and their "trends" seems like hell
Probably the easiest to do in all honesty. Will take a bit of time to set up but once you're operational it's sustainable.I know a guy who sells holidays. i.e arranges hotels, flights, transfers etc adds a markup and sells it on as a package. This principle is applicable to any online business - you act as a middleman and take a cut. A good option.

>3) marketing/SEO/blogging: seems like a scam but what do I know
This is legit (marketing and SEO, not blogging) and most people I know or have met doing the digital nomad thing are actually doing this. But of course you have to learn your craft, get a degree and find a job. But if you can, it's the most common method I've come across.

>4) programming: not enough of a dork or smart enough
You know your limitations

>5) finish my degree (accounting) and officemaxx until I have enough skill to demand a remote job or make my own company
Yeah you could do but in that time you could probaby do 3) quicker

t. know a lot of digital nomads

>>2785206
This.

>>2785201 (OP)
You're like 10 to 5 years too late.
Dropshipping was already over by 2017.
Programming got fucked this year because of AI,only senior programmers will survive, too late to learn now.
ESL teachers are now looked down upon (rightfully so, because they are scum). Look at all the ESL teachers that end up homeless or semi-homeless

Maybe do crypto, or better get a degree and find a real job.

>>2785212
>This is legit (marketing and SEO, not blogging) and most people I know or have met doing the digital nomad thing are actually doing this. But of course you have to learn your craft, get a degree and find a job. But if you can, it's the most common method I've come across.
Do you think I should actually get a degree for this?

>>2785214
ESL isn't dead yet, but it will be dead soon. I wouldn't consider it as a 23 year old when it has probably 5-10 years max before AI tutors are good enough

bro just finish your accounting and find a company you can WFH from all of the other things will take way longer and you can always fall back on it later in life (you started it for a reason remember). Always finish shit that you started its something I have always done and its always worked out for me

>>2785201 (OP)
office maxx, just go into finance already into sales and trading. You will be a trader, minus the risk and remote
Two bird 1 stone, and get ur residual money and make a business based on your hobby on country of choice to get citizenship or permanent residency
>T. NC statecel Merrill Lynch

>>2785201 (OP)
>>2785286
me again
>Day trading
Go into Financial sales and trading with ur accounting background, lie on ur resume and try to exit or go remote or go abroad typically to the Philippines (Major us offshoring place due to english Cebu city is big)
>marketing/SEO/blogging
That's retard
>degree
Chatgpt and Ai
>finish my degree
yes, become a CPA, make your own business alongside perusing a career you want to exit
Don't work for the big 4, they will destroy your life.
Gain as much clients business-wise state-side before exiting and going fully remote. You can do axillary tax and accounting work and be ok with a 30k after tax income.

>>2785201 (OP)
Your thread piqued my interest so I went down the rabbit whole on this topic on YT. Found the semi-infamous little known Insecurity Dork's youtube channel by pure accident. This dude has wasted countless nights of his life at his security job watching hour long streams about how to become a digital nomad, just to make the same useless comments on Youtube that he does here. And he even has a cringey "le epicsigma male" handle for his YouTube channel that you would expect a 13 year old to have as a gamertag in Call of Duty.

I'm sure he was about to make a little snarky comment about how you're a dork for living his dream, but after this epic expose, he's probably shaking in his size 9 Sketchers in his work chair right now.

>>2785335
I think it's time to take your meds, no one knows who the fuck this is.
You're into an epic youtube battle only you and this fag care about.

I have a Bachelor of Design and a UX Certificate. Can I still become a digital nomad?

>>2785353
Shut it dorer you got fukken gaped

>>2785201 (OP)
I work as an accountant for a couple of companies based in UAE. You absolutely need actual experience for that though.

>>2785201 (OP)
>day trading: hard but doable if you grindmaxx?
if you really think you can grind your way into daytrading
you should absolutely not list this as a skill
for most strategies the only relevant times are max 60min after open and max 60min before close
you can include Asian / European SE but even then you'll hardly spend more than 8h/day

>online business: seems way oversaturated
no it's not
just the "quick money, book my course" type is
if you create something of actual value, you most likely can have modest! success

>marketing/SEO/blogging
was never viable

>finish my degree (accounting)
just do it
and find a job in the country you want to go to
or a remote position
or go as expat, send by your employer (kinda hard as accountant though)
or freelance after a few years of work experience

admittedly programming is the easiest, because no aspect of the job requires to be there in person and it has a history of remote working
but you already started a degree
remote work is possible on almost every regular office job - just might need to search a bit

>>2785217
>probably 5-10 years max before AI tutors are good enough

2 years. ESL teaching will not be a job anymore very soon.

Setting up and managing the ESL AI teacher will be a job though.

>>2785212
>marketing/SEO/blogging
>This is legit (marketing and SEO, not blogging) and most people I know or have met doing the digital nomad thing are actually doing this.
kek
what???
traditional digital nomads in the early 2010s were mostly freelancing (full stack) developers, highly specialized (niche) copywriters and translators or designers

working in "marketing" or "SEO" back then already was a alternative term for
>"living on savings because I didn't prepare my digital nomad life and have no skills"

today it's often people who work regular office jobs but have work contracts that allow for
>work X months not in (home) country Y

also traditional expats are still very much a thing
but it's mostly manufacturing, chemical, finance, construction, oil gas energy and other infrastructure projects
and for most of those either Researchers or Project Managers

seeing todays digital nomads
the most likely path to get into digital nomading for OP is to finish his degree and find a job with flexible work place (you can negotiate that)

>t. digital nomad for 14y as electrical engineer
fuck i'm old

>>2785462
>2 years
lol no

>>2785215
Not necessarily a degree no, but you'll need to learn to do it and have some proof that you know how to do it in order to apply for jobs where you are required to do it. The degree you're currently doing is probably worth more. I'm just throwing out options based on people I know who are living the life you want.

>>2785464
>kek
>what???
It's quite common. Do whatever works. There are loads of jobs you can do remotely these days. Doesn't have to be high income either if you're happy traipsing around 3rd world countries. OP has tons of options, he just needs to pick a path. He could even go the workaway path or working in bars. Anybody who has the will to live and work abroad is able to do it in 2025 more than at any other time in history.

>>2785573
>It's quite common. Do whatever works.
my experience is that it does NOT work
>There are loads of jobs you can do remotely these days.
>Doesn't have to be high income either if you're happy traipsing around 3rd world countries
but that's the problem, you'll not make any money at all
not that there weren't capable people who made a living of that
just the majority who I met that did marketing/SEO went broke and back to their old jobs after a few months

>He could even go the workaway path or working in bars.
>Anybody who has the will to live and work abroad is able to do it in 2025 more than at any other time in history.
absolutely agree
I just want to give tips how to sustainably be (and stay!) a digital nomad

before uni I did work n travel and worked on farms
wouldn't do it today, wouldn't do it longer than a few weeks, but at that time it allowed me to travel

if OP wants to actually digital nomad long term
and not live like a perma broke student
you need to chose something comfy where you can grow in your career

>>2785576
>you need to chose something comfy where you can grow in your career
Like what?

>>2785578
>Like what?
depends on your skill / education

I chose electrical engineering
more specifically RF Circuit Design
had lots of luck in the beginning with 2 stable clients from my working student job and Master thesis
rest was networking and advertise myself until I was reasonably well known

that's replicateable in almost any field which
>doesn't require local presence (e.g. laboratory or construction)
>is highly project based
>has a very high skill / knowledge ceiling (aka high entry barriers and people explicitly search for external experts)
you could do the same in different niches of EE or mechanical eng or programming
or also in certain accounting niches

>>2785593
>I chose electrical engineering
>more specifically RF Circuit Design
How do you do this remotely without a lab (I know nothing about engineering sry)

>>2785599
>How do you do this remotely without a lab (I know nothing about engineering sry)
because I never (/ rarely) work alone
companies hire me to help their in house engineers
and 95%+ of the work is done digitally anyway

maybe 2x or 3x / year I fly in because they want / need me there
but that's negotiated aka comped (e.g. 6k on top for 5days there)

>>2785603
How long have you been working?

>>2785464
Tell more about your career as an EE digital nomad. I’m on my way to finish my EE degree and I want to know what everything looks like.

>>2785201 (OP)
>1
Not happening. You already have to be rich to do this.
>2,3,4
Good luck lol...
>5
This is a good, reliable option. There are wfh accountant jobs as well. And you can make bank.

>>2785625
1-4 are definitely possible for non rich people. You're just not willing to take risks.

>>2785604
>How long have you been working?
like I wrote earlier, now ~14y
been nomading since finishing my master degree
though in the beginning it was mostly in Europe (am from Germany) and only for a few weeks at a time
I wasn't "established" enough to outright refuse meeting in person and visited some trade fair every other month or so
also different time - in 2011 digital nomads and even home office wasn't widely known / accepted

but again, I got a bit lucky
had 2 clients form the start (with essentially 0 work experience) who kept me busy for the first ~18month
the more reliable way would be to work for a few years and then transition to freelancing

>>2785612
>Tell more about your career as an EE digital nomad. I’m on my way to finish my EE degree and I want to know what everything looks like.
what do you want to know?
and which specialization did you go into in your master?

also take all certification your university offers for free
I did a free Altium, EAGLE and something FPGA with Xilinx course
and reference projects help as well

there are essentially 3 paths you can go
>1. offer finished solutions / products
that'll be mostly PCB Design and embedded dev, recently mostly about IoT, competitive but also easy to get into because there's work on freelancing platforms for it
>2. technical documentation (writing)
the name says it all, is pretty boring but it's an option
>3. consulting in niche
that's where I am
you need experience, references and make the project managers somehow believe that you're better than their own team
otherwise no limits

1. & 2. is currently around ~15€-60€/h I think,
but really depends - repeat customers will pay more and so will direct connections (aka companies that never searched but just hired you)
3. depends on the field but somewhere 50-200€/h

>>2785335
The only person this obsessed with the “guard” is cuck shed and we just found out he’s a fatass retard with fat sausage fingers

>>2788835
that's not the hand of a guy who lays around in his filipino in-law's outbuilding all day and never goes anywhere. the only person here who mentions cuckshed is the guy who invented the cuckshed character.

>>2785201 (OP)
>5) finish my degree (accounting) and officemaxx until I have enough skill to demand a remote job or make my own company
this is your only option. welcome to the rat race

>>2785201 (OP)
Find some travelling British slag you can do OF with

I have a business degree with 7 years experience in finance and speak English, French and Spanish fluently.

There has to be some kind of job out there that I can do full time remote. It was actually suggested that I work remotely for crypto exchanges. I know someone making six figures doing this

Im from a western country.. apart from crypto exchanges what could I do? Dogshit salary is not an option

>>2789381
>have a business degree with 7 years experience in finance and speak English, French and Spanish fluently
>what could I do?
just work for any euro bank or EU branch of non euro banks
with most employers today you can negotiate 100% home office contracts
with 7 years exp you gotta have a specialization
classic analyst roles are pretty easy to get
operations manager might be a bit harder to do remote

also try neo banks like Revolut, they'll offer full remote right off the bat

>Dogshit salary is not an option
and what's that for you?
depending on the EU country you're looking anywhere from ~50k€/y to ~120k€/y (except with London >>> everything else)
if you have a track record in investment banking it might easily be double, but then you wouldn't be asking questions on 4chan...

no clue about US market though
but with your languages, you might have an advantage in europe

>>2789406
This is very helpful thank you.

You have some great tips. I checked out Revolut and there's definitely stuff I could do. The reason why I'm asking such weird questions is that I work in such a niche area of finance that I have a very hard time wondering what I could do outside my current job. I'm in the regulatory/compliance side but I'm also not a lawyer. I make about 70k euros per year but am stuck living in a very high cost shithole that I can barely save anything.

>Dogshit salary is not an option
I suppose anything less than 45k €. I'd hopefully move to somewhere much cheaper.

The logical thing is that I could switch and become a consultant, but that seems too unstable. Idk.

My plan is to save as much cash as possible over the next few years, principally by getting a roomate and side jobs. Hopefully I'll have 40k in a few years and then try something new.

I have the opportunity to live in Italy rent free, but I have no idea how I could get a visa or anything

>>2790378
>I'm in the regulatory/compliance side
not sure about banking
but in Pharma those jobs are HIGHLY sought after (by companies)
you could basically get a job within 24h

>make about 70k euros
seems ok(ish) (unless Frankfurt, Amsterdam or Paris)
did you try to negotiate full remote?
or like 2 days / month in person, so you just take the train there and 1/2 hotel nights every month
sometimes this works

>logical thing is that I could switch and become a consultant
not as easy and fun as you probably think
also typically lots of travel (again region restricted, near airport / train station / highway)
if you can't get into as senior consultant it's shit

>Hopefully I'll have 40k in a few years
the fuck??
you either have a REALLY expensive apartment, zero savings or you have a spending problem
even in Belgium or Germany, your 70k should be ~3,4k/month net

>>2790459
im not european...and yes where I live everything is this expensive. And taxation is almost 50%

I'm hesitant to say more really, but thanks for the tips!

>>2785214
>get a degree
You're like 20 to 50 years too late. Start your own location-independent business helping people get more clients or more sales.