House, apartment, townhome, whatever. I don't need much more room than a studio or 1br. I'm looking for a place with parking, that's not super expensive, with good access to the city. I plan on living there for 3-6 months a year while working remotely (since I don't have a visa).

Is this viable? What do you think?

>>2788267 (OP)
What are you doing for work that you can live in Japan 3 to 6 months a year? Only asking because I’m looking for remote work specifically so I can work from Japan for part of the year as well

>>2788375
Software development. I'm """hybrid""" right now but I never go into the office (literally been in like a handful of times). Several people on my team are fully remote, so I'm planning on getting approved for full remote and moving out of state.

I will say that getting a remote job is hard these days, I lucked out. And the pay will be much worse. Try looking for boomer companies that may not even be software related.

To buy property in Japan you apparently need a Japanese bank account, and in order to get a bank account you need a visa that enables you to stay for 6+ months at a time, meaning the tourist visa is a no-go. So I suggest you look into potential loopholes before you waste too much time looking for properties to buy

>>2788510
You can get permanent residency in one year if you’re not a subhuman

>>2788267 (OP)
mt fuji isnt that close to tokyo... this nigga aint got no chance...

>>2788510
Not a problem if you're paying cash.

>>2788513
Larp

>>2788516
Yes it is, trust me bro. My friend's dad is a mountainologist and he told me so.

>>2788520
>Larp
What’s the larp? Have you seen the points system to get permanent residency in Japan? So long as you’re a regular corporate worker in America you can get it in a year.

>>2788540
I’m not working for a Japanese company or in Japan for an American (or other) company though.

>>2788549
I reference you back to “if you’re not a subhuman” then

Obviously you spergs can't take 5 seconds to stop fighting whatever autistic shitflinging war you invented in your head to have a normal conversation. I don't know why I expected anything else.

>>2788550
Whatever that means. Anyone who is non-Japanese, I guess.

Can you own a car as a foreigner in Japan?

>>2789027
No, women and foreigners are banned from driving and need a Japanese chaperone with them at all times.

>>2789037
japerone

>>2788267 (OP)
Every commuter city or suburb that I saw on the train coming from Narita airport to Tokyo looked fine. Nothing special but fine.

Is there any way to move to Japan if you are on a pension / disability?

>>2789108
No, unless you marry a Japanese person. You have to work to get residency in Japan.

>>2789141
More importantly, he won't get a working visa.

>>2789146
What does it matter if you can work, if you aren't able to?

>>2788540
Pretty sure the point system ive seen requires you to not just have a ridiculously high salary for japan but also speak japanese fluently, have more than a decade of professional experience (which doesnt happen for a masters or a phd until you're way into your thirties) plus a few scientific articles under your belt if you dont make it to some of the conditions above. Calling anyone who doesnt make it to this level a degenerate probably filters 99% of the world population, including yourself.

This thing has been made with the specific purpose of pretending they're encouraging high skill workers to stay but at such a high ceiling you're either staying no matter what because you're on a tenure track, or you already have a profile so stellar you'll probably move on to a better paying place in the next few years.

>>2789234
I am 25 and have an hsp visa

>>2788378
>Try looking for boomer companies that may not even be software related.
That's nearly every fucking company m8

>>2789234
The points you get for experience more or less cancel out with the points you get for age.
I.e. under 30 gives you 15 points, 30-34 gives you 10 points.

Pay gives you a big bump, yes.

>>2789234
you don't need to have all these things, just enough of them to reach the points threshold. if you're young with a very good job it's not difficult to reach it.

but I agree that applying for PR in Japan quickly is retarded. I live in Japan, have double the points required for PR through HSP, and I see zero point in doing it. they just load extra taxes on you and you get very little benefit for it

>>2789234
The requirements aren’t this stringent. You don’t even need to speak Japanese at all to qualify for one year permanent residency.

For example, you can get in if you have a masters of engineering from a ranked university with 10+ years of industry experience. You will need a salary in a non subhuman range however, ie like 8-10 million yen, which if you’re making less than that you might as well stay home unless you’re from the Indian subcontinent. Many American state flagship universities are considered top ranked globally and getting a masters in a stem field isn’t that hard. I would argue that if you haven’t done this in your home country and plan to work for a living then you have basically auto-filtered yourself from any meaningful civilizational participation. In other words, you are functionally gay and should look for an alternate route into Japan, such as being enslaved to a twice divorced Japanese woman 10+ years older than you for a marriage visa, or via claiming rapefugee status.

Also if you come to Japan and unironically get paid in yen, unironically pay Japanese taxes, or work (unironically) within Japanese hierarchy, ie not working and reporting within a chain of command that resides in a western country—you are gay.

There is zero point in LIVING in Japan if you cannot stay in the country in a dignified manner. The negatives of participating in Japanese work culture as a non-Japanese are not worth the benefits of living in Japan. I would just stick to visiting or, if you want to larp, get an Airbnb and live in Tokyo for a month.

>>2789389
You cannot get loans in Japan without PR so if you want a car or a house then you’re fucked unless you can pay cash.

If you intend to have kids then I think the PR becomes a must for the sole reason that you will need a house.

With PR you are also no longer at the mercy of your employer, assuming you made the terrible mistake of working for a Japanese company.

>>2789397
Only the HSP visa ties you to the employer. The pro move is to have HSP-tier credential but get a non-HSP visa, then you can change jobs easily.

But yes, the point about PR for having kids is completely correct.

>>2789398
Yes you’d be tied to them for a year until you get PR. Once you have PR you are basically a citizen without the ability to vote

>>2789389
PR is rarted unless you are 1000% going to live in Japan until you die, especially if you have investments. The exit tax is brutal, one of the worst in the world.

>>2789400
Yes, the exit tax, inhertance and gift taxes etc. are some of the worst in the civilised world. Japan has fucking criminally retarded tax laws.

>>2789389
Just get the business manager visa it should be brainless since you just need 5m yen

>>2789472
It's not, you need a detail business plan AND a good reason that the business has to be in Japan.

>>2789480
Lol, lmfao even
Are you an English teacher speaking out of your ass? Or did you just read the official website and believe that's how it works in practice? Or even worse are you just poor?

>>2789485
What's your business in Japan, then?

>>2789486
If I told you, you would steal the idea

>>2789486
I just have an llc and work as a contractor for my actual job to save taxes

tl;dr instead of engaging in larp, just go directly to the list of actual visa you can get and their requirements
https://www.mofa.go.jp/j_info/visit/visa/long/index.html
>can't read
lmao
>I'm not qualified for any of them
lmao

>You cannot get a loan without PR
False
See pic. House, car, garage, another car in the garage. Only the house was done through a loan, dealer offered a loan for the cars, so it's also possible. Having a visa that won't expire in a year helps. I'm cutting the grass tomorrow.
>You can get an HSP visa as long as you have enough points on your own
False
A company in Japan still needs to sponsor you. You are just under a different visa category.
>HSP visa is dog shit
True
A normal 5 year (or 3 year if you are a pleb) white collar visa is better than an HSP because the HSP is tied to your current employer in Japan. You can hop jobs with a normal white collar visa as long as the job you're hopping to is related to your category. If you have an "Engineer/Specialist in Humanities/International Services" visa, then technically you can only hop to a job within the same field. There are also tax implications.
>you can get PR in 1 year with a normal white collar visa
True
You can hop on the same HSP points system, and you do not need to convert to an HSP visa.

>>2789569
Thanks for this clarification. Regardless, if you want to buy a house in Japan you need a loan, which means you need a Japanese bank account, which means you need PR or be married to a Japanese citizen.

>38 replies
>only 1 (one) attempt at a response to the question >>2789091
what's even the point of this board

>>2789705
sex tourism

How do you move to Japan without a degree? The only two ways I seldom know of are 1. the intra-company visa but that requires you to work 1 year in your home country for a multi-nat then apply to a role in Japan with no guarantee of sponsorship, or 2. the business manager visa though you need a detailed plan, office space and employees. The latter seems to be the easiest in the long run so that's why I've been learning how to start your own location-independent business for the past year.

>>2789713
tbf everything revolves around sex

>>2790029
>How do you move to Japan without a degree?
just get a degree if you want to be an expat IMO

at minimum, attend japanese university or something. it will literally make every part of life easier

>>2789569
>See pic. House, car, garage, another car in the garage.
Did you breed a Japanese female in this house?

>visa
living (working) in japan sucks ass, just visit

>>2790628
What if you're rich and don't need to work?
Or if you operate a business separate to japanese employee culture

>>2790637
Then you can easily just get a business manager visa.

>>2790650
>Then you can easily just get a business manager visa.
I wasn't asking about how. I was asking if it would still suck ass

>>2790628
Does it feel like you're just working all the time but never getting anywhere because pay increase is shit?

>>2790658
Yes because of exit tax and capital gains tax.

>>2790594
>just get £50k in debt, live like a libshit and be surrounded by normie faggots for 4 years while feeling out of place as a 26-27 year old just to get a piece of paper to tick a box for a wagie visa

No thanks. IMO no one should go to college unless they're gonna be a doctor, lawyer or big time engineer. I decided not to go when I was 19 and since then I have 7 years in financial services and have always lived on my own with zero debt. If that means the business manager visa is the only way in for me then so be it - the freedom of time and running your own shit are just bonuses.

Look at yokohama. You can find good places within 30-40 mins of Tokyo’s center for cheap

>>2790029
You don't, why would anyone accept a subhuman loser without a degree lmfao?

>>2792418
>Look at yokohama
can vouch for that
absolutely loved yokohama
also because my kid went to the german international school there, which was great

got a nice 4bd house for like ~400k/month (back in 2019)
near the keihin tohoku line with like ~15min to Kannai Station
if I could I'd 100% go back

>>2789395
>being enslaved to a twice divorced Japanese woman 10+ years older than you for a marriage visa,
Implying this isn't exclusively the jav I watch.
>The negatives of participating in Japanese work culture as a non-Japanese are not worth the benefits of living in Japan
I've heard good things from friends who moved to Tokyo for software eng gigs, completely normal work-life balance, to the point of being better than working in US startups. Not expected to speak Nip either.

>>2792548
>moved to Tokyo for software eng gigs
that's kinda the exception
but you are very dependent on a well funded tech scene
also salaries there aren't that great

and as good software engineer you can immigrate and live anywhere you want anyway
while making a high enough salary to just buy yourself out of the common problems in each country

also
>Not expected to speak Nip either
what's the point of moving to Japan then?
If you don't want Japanese culture, quite pointless in this position.

even living in the US is quite nice if you're on a ~$300k+ senior SDE salary
or London, Munich, Paris, Berlin on 200k€+ (/pound)
nothing keeping you in Tokyo for <15mio Yen

and I say this as a SDE myself, who worked in Germany, USA and Japan

Thinking about working in Japan for 1 year after my masters (CS) or maybe before I retire just so I can get PR

>>2792564
If I had that kind of money I'd just work 2 years and retire to Italy lmfao.

>>2792623
>If I had that kind of money I'd just work 2 years and retire to Italy lmfao.
my plan is to FIRE in ~8y
but I can't just move to Italy with wife and (school) kids

also you need WAY MORE than 2y for this
even cost of living in (cheap) Italy for a modest single life would still be ~1000€/month, which is like 400k€

and to make such a salary you need to live in cities that have high cost of living (yeah yeah WFH, but not everyone offers that)
then subtract cost for children and the occasional vacation
and you're lucky if you save 50k€/year