This is the general thread for nomads, independent contractors, and remote workers living abroad
What projects are you currently working on? What are the best countries for 2025? Which formerly good destinations are now plonked? What do you like about your current nomad destination?

>>2788517 (OP)
Post job, salary, location, and bankstatements. Show me the dorkfax

>>2788634
fuck off, tard guard
>>2788517 (OP)
For best nomad countries in 2025, I'm thinking
1)Georgia/Armenia
2)Vietnam
3)Peru
4)Albania
5)Thailand
Thoughts?

>>2788658
Albania but not montengro?
Montenegro is better connected and has a dedicated digital nomad visa which basically just requires you making 1350€+/month

>>2788634
>Post job, salary, location, and bankstatements
nice try glowie
now go back to you harvesting threads on >>>/pol/

>>2788658
In Vietnam rn, is comfy but annoyingly short visa now, 90 days would be a lot better to settle in. A month sucks.
Harder to find people to hang out with. Whatsapp/bookface groups are shit compared to other popular places. It's mostly getting pissed with Australians or Americans at bars for company. English isn't always easy but enough speak it.
Thinking Thailand then central Asia for next moves.
>>2788667
Been to both, Tirana is a lot more fun as a city, if you can handle the smallness then yeah Budva and Kotor are cool. Was in Kotor old town for nearly a month and loved it, barely left the castle walls, was shoulder season so not too busy but still enough people. Foggy late nights made me want to get a cape and larp through the streets

>>2788688
>90 days would be a lot better to settle in. A month sucks
E-visa is 90 days, retard

>>2788517 (OP)
I literally just moved back to the Arkansas Ozarks after 2 years as a digital nomad.
why?
Better food
Better infrastructure
Better medical care
Cleaner air
Walmart

I got my fill abroad after just two years. It really made me appreciate what we have as Americans. Everywhere I stayed, I had foreigners trying to get me to take then to America.

And SEA Monkey’s really helped me appreciate American Blacks. Filipinos paricularly make Blacks look like genius critical thinkers by comparison.

I’m not a white dork so I never had a problem finding sex partners before I left.

>>2788691
I had a freakout in the immigration office in HCMC where I said "I hope the Chinese slaughter all of you" and I think they're dropping it back to 1 month now for Americans. Sorry bros. The heat and shittiness of beaurocracy got to me

>>2788658
>1)Georgia/Armenia
>2)Vietnam
>4)Albania
>5)Thailand
lmao... lol even... might as well just admit you're yet another sex tourist trying to exploit financially poor and desperate women. Those countries are fucking dogshit, with the exception of Thailand which is okay nature wise. But to even suggest to go to Albania or Armenia lol... just fucking lmao.

>>2788716
so where would you suggest? I'm looking for a nice peaceful warm spot to settle for a couple of months

>>2788658
Sorry dorkie, rules are rules :)

>>2788716
>>2788742
Keep seething, buddy
Meanwhile, I'll keep traveling the world and mogging the locals

>>2788747
You’re sitting in some shitty apartment in New Haven Connecticut or something don’t even start with me you faggot

3 fingers view of your horizon or you’re a confirmed dorkapotamus

>>2788709
>Ozarks.
Definitely beautiful part of the state. Worried it’s gonna end up clogged up like Idaho or Montana tho

>>2788750
Now post your horizon, tard guard

fatty

>>2788778
>those sausage fingers
>wrist cropped

Nigga how fat are you?

>>2788778
KEKSHED CONFIRMED FATASS!!!!

>>2788725
I would travel in my own 1st world country and not resort to going to a 3rd world shithole just to be able to exploit locals because you are pathetic. The entire point of digital nomad was to see cool places, not go to 3rd world shitholes and have sex with prostitutes and poor people

>>2788789
>>2788790
183cm at 85kg
Post body

>>2788800
It's overrated
>just spend 4x so you don't have to be around latam/sea monkeys, bro
What do i get in return? nogs, beaners, and/or muhammads in my home town anyways? Sorry, not sorry, I'll take being a minority living on the cheap rather than living in an overpriced shithole where I get replaced by minorities. At least I'll get to retire before I'm 50

Just go to a first world country you cheap bastards. Spain and Poortugal are practically begging for you to come and spend your money there. And it's not like they're even remotely expensive...

>>2788841
Is this true though?

>>2788778
>tard guard
>>2788790
Based insta-react anon completely dialed in to the fat fucking paw completely BLOCKING out the horizon

Yea cuckshed you’re not really free, more like marooned on a shithole archipelago.

And even if you decided to intercept the larper who I demanded a horizon pic and supply your own (thanks) it’s underwhelming and kind of reinforces my point.

There’s never going to be some street view of shinjuki streets dotted with schoolgirl Lolis or a heaving Thai nightclub with pale qts.

Just some fat oaf blocking out the view with his paw. I’ll wait though

>>2788903
I’ll never see a photo like this

>>2788901
Yeah? D7 and D8 visas for long term stays. Of course short term stays are no problem either.

You can even get Poortugeese citizenship in 5 years if you want to. Which, of course, is an EU citizenship. And of course the beaches and surfing are world class.

>>2788841
>Spain begging for tourists
Don't they fucking hate nomads and tourists today
>>2788903
Me rn, but done with work today
Will get you some pics of japantown later
>>2788800
Did 6 months traveling my own country, everyone's the same, it's not that interesting except for the good nature. Countries towns all full of methheads too, even the nice tourist ones

>>2788972
>Don't they fucking hate nomads and tourists today
only if you to Barcelona, Madrid or Lisbon
and even there, most don't care

>>2788778
I didn't know hands could look that vile.

>>2788778
Those are wanking callouses, don't ask me how I know

I have $10,000 deposited into my personal bank account each month from my trust fund. I’m not sure how you can even enjoy traveling if you are required to work.

>>2788972
>Don't they fucking hate nomads and tourists today
Spain hates them like "Japanese are over the tourist boom!" they hate the ones in Tokyo and Kyoto, go outside of those cities with proper manners and you'll be fine

>>2788517 (OP)
>What are the best countries for 2025?
For me
>Korea
Amazing internet+utilities, good quality of transportation if you are okay with 24/7 buses, cheap rent year round, good enough things to do, easy enough to balance remote work and fun things to do.
>Japan
Much the same, a bit more expensive though, probably the worst thing about the country is how many airbnb/long term stay places have "internet" equating
>Malaysia
For the shitty time of late-mid January till it warms up in later March, dirt cheap, 90 day stay with no one even bothering if you are nomading, gyms to get back in shape are plentiful, can redo my entire clothing lineup, plan the next year of travel out, enough there to do on the weekends but it is a smelly city and lots of women scammers.

>>2789057
I'm thinking of heading back to Kuala Lumpur. Arguably the best food city in the world. Infrastructure is pretty bad though

>>2789059
>Arguably the best food city in the world
It's okay, just so cheap you can try dishes you really never would in my opinion. I find it kind of lackluster because the food sizes I need to go to the gym an get back in full shape is annoying.
Unless I go to some shitty chain it's:
>yeah I need two of these Large size
Oh you have person coming?
>no just me, I just came from the gym so I am hungry
Sirs.. very large plate are you sure?
>Yes, it's fine
O-okay one moment
-manager comes out to explain dishes are large-
>offer to pay in full up front
>get dishes each plate is like 1/2 the normal size any 1st world country

Presentation of their dishes is usually well above what you'll see in SEA.

>doing digital nomad shidd for the first time in Tokyo, 1-3 months maybe
Is it even worth it, if I have to work in EST time? That’s 10pm to 6am.
I’m not much of a weeb (anymore) but I love cars and motorcycles and traveling. Never been to Japan before.

>>2789094
I'm on Singapore time. I've worked in the Americas, Europe, and across Asia. You might think you can pull off the graveyard shift for a kino destination, but that shit really wears you down. Also, don't expect to be meeting many people when you are going to sleep at 5 or 6 pm

>>2789094
>Is it even worth it, if I have to work in EST time? That’s 10pm to 6am.
Personally, I love that timeslot to work during
>can walk to anytime fitness during "lunch" work out when it's empty
>6AM trains are often mostly empty leaving tokyo meaning I don't have to deal with crowds
>get to any store when they open if I needed for weeb merch
>weekends if I want to go out drinking it's just me waking up "early" for the bar
>see shit from 6AM to 2-230PM before heading back home
>sleep 3PM->930ish

As the other anon said it does hurt you meeting people but if you're someone who loves nature and stuff like that it's perfect. I am more project based so we have fridays off usually which changes it a lot for me.

>>2788972
Wonderful, anon. Wonderful

>>2789028
I'm not sure how you enjoy life without purpose mate?
I could retire easily in SEA now and live a comfy life for the next 50 years on passive income but actually enjoy my job and what I do, enjoy talking shit with my coworkers.
I don't know anyone actually lives a life of unemployment happily for extended periods of time, money is irrelevant.
>>2789057
>but it is a smelly city and lots of women scammers
Need to get out of KL bruv

>>2789050
But I want to make them seethe and live in an airbnb being obnoxious

>>2788904
that guy on the left is quite a unit

>working in another cunt without telling my employer
How do I hide it? Aside from setting up a personal vpn through a server at home. Anything to be careful about?

>>2789094
>Is it even worth it, if I have to work in EST time? That’s 10pm to 6am.
>I’m not much of a weeb (anymore) but I love cars and motorcycles and traveling. Never been to Japan before.
I've done it for 3 years and counting. stay consistent af. I sleep in the morning to afternoon then do my day

>>2790599
>cuck bitch schedule precisely during the hours when everyone is out enjoying their lives.

Couldn’t be me

any remotefags who go for more permanent immigration rather than visa run nonsense? westoid here, housing prices are unaffordable and the government is shit, so it seems like it would be nice to actually immigrate somewhere and stay there doing remote work
any suggestions?

>>2792687
No, fuck off, we're full

>>2792687
Fix your country, coward.

>>2792748
dont wanna

>>2788517 (OP)
I work in the trades in America and want to switch to remote work. What are some reasonable options?

>>2792769
Figure it out knuckle dragger.

I’m going down with the American ship. I get too much please from “doing nothing” and getting paid to do it, to change my situation. It’s pitiful and sad in a way, but here we are

should I keep my lowish paying remote job or get an in office job for a big pay bump?

>>2792774
I was looking at the helpdesk-to-cybersecurity route but I've been seeing mixed messaging on whether that industry is struggling to find workers or is oversaturated. I'm also considering going back to school and trying to get some sort of engineering gig that allows a good amount of travel

>>2792798
>allows a good amount of travel
Not only travel but also work from home. I want to be able to chill out in the woods and solve interesting problems for decent pay.

>>2792798
>helpdesk-to-cybersecurity route
is that a real thing? i dont see how the two have any relation

>>2792800
The idea is that you start getting relevant certs and use the IT helpdesk experience to apply for lower level cybersecurity jobs and then go from there with more certs and experience. It's been a common recommendation in the past so I assume it's still a thing.

>>2792803
dont they have entry level cybersecurity jobs you can go for? helpdesk sucks ass

>>2792804
>dont they have entry level cybersecurity jobs you can go for?
Yes. The recommendation I've seen is to apply for those from the start and to continually apply while working help desk and adding relevant experience to your resume.
>helpdesk sucks ass
It sounds like it might. Do you have personal experience with that?

>>2792808
i worked helpdesk part time while going through university, its godawful needing to spoonfeed retards constantly how to do the most basic things, and half of them are rude and angry the whole time too

>>2788709
Nigger detected

>>2792809
How often do you have a customer. like one every 10 minutes. Or are you constantly busy.

>>2789028
This guy gets it. Your ancestors were intelligent enough to provide you with a trust fund. Working for money is a scam nowadays anyway. How can I get this?? Please enlighten me.

>>2792748
Mathematically and logistically impossible.

>>2792748
>NOOO YOU JUST GOTTA SLAVE AWAY FOR A SYSTEM THAT HATES YOU NOOOOOO

>>2792687
Eastern Europe is probably your easiest choice: Serbia, Romania, Bulgaria, Montenegro etc.

>>2792687
Poortugal

>>2788517 (OP)
I have an IT job where I basically do nothing for my Dad (pay reflects this fact). Any companies I can meme my way into with my credentials?

>>2793328
no but i will pay you 200 pesos a day to suck my morning wood and swallow my load.

>>2793400
shit I do that for free because fgt

>>2793400
Is room and board included?

>>2790139
>Use tailscale, set up an exit node from your house
>Be aware of being on calls and all the obvious signs you aren't in Kansas anymore

>>2793463
This sounds pretty esoteric and dorky. Listen to this dorkus

>>2793474
If you can't setup tailscale by clicking a few buttons you shouldn't be allowed on the internet in the first place.

>>2788517 (OP)

Jumped the fence and moved to Malta in 2023. Leaf here so i had to get a single permit visa which i can now upgrade to an EU blue card.

Not really remote working but the island has a freelance visa and lots of digital nomads live here. Heres my take away:

Pros:

- Good weather 300 days of the year easily.
- Can swim until october literally, and september-october are the best months to swim since tourists fuck off and the sea is cleaner.
- Lots of expats so you meet a lot of people and can network easily.
- Good night life, gambling, etc if thats what you enjoy.
- Close to mainland EU so flights are cheap.
- Low taxes, income tax is around 20% and they dont even care about capital gains for stocks and crypto.
- Very low crime, no violent crimes, migrants are too scared to try anything by fear of lynching or worse.

Cons:

- The island is getting crowded since every faggot in mainland EU sees it as some kind of far west eldorado where anything is possible. Lots of people from the mainland move in to find work because salaries in most of europe are shit and decent jobs hard to come by.

- Dating scene is a disaster, you either date a psychopathic maltese woman who either has BPD or a wild case of nymphomania with daddy issues and past traumas or you got the expat girls who moved there to ''explore themselves'' so they are basically cum dumpsters half your friends fucked.

- Roads are small and traffic is horrendous at times, not as bad as say NYC or bangkok though. Public transport is an absolute disaster so forget using the bus.

- Rent is high due to so many people moving in, absolute dumps go for 1300-1500 euros a month now while the avg salary for locals is only 20k per year.

>>2793738
>Low taxes
>income tax is around 20%

>>2793745

Only applies if you are a wagecuck.

Corporate tax for foreign owned companies is 5% and capital gains is zero.

If you do digital nomad work and make decent money without using a legal entity you are just fucking yourself over in the long term as any tax authority where you reside will slap the individual income tax on you even if its business income.

>>2793463
What about when it's only possible to connect to the company VPN with a company laptop that's locked up tight and I can't install any third party softwares?

>>2793767
On a company device with MDM and no install rights you're going to have a harder time but it's still possible, need to do it at a different layer
You want something like a travel router in the middle of your local connection (mobile/wifi) with VPN capability and have that hit your home/family/friends as an exit point.
If you're technically inlined you could set this up with an old rpi but really just buy a travel router, they aren't expensive.
Still would recommend tailscale for that, it's absurdly easy to setup and free tier is more than enough for personal use.

>>2793771
Forgot to add, this is essentially a VPN inside VPN tunnel, so you'll be chaining them, first hop is to your home, second is to your corporate network.
Technically if a sysadmin or boss was out to get you they could check ping times but that's realistically not going to happen unless they are trying to fire you anyway.
t.was a sysadmin at bigcorp for nearly a decade

>>2793747
I've been doing this a while now and it's amazing the number of people who think they can simply travel and not pay taxes. There's simply no way avoid being classed as a tax resident of a country for each financial year. The money you earn will fall under some jurisdiction.
This is the main appeal of nomad visa's even when the country is completely tolerant of repeated visa runs imo, you get tax residency and depending where you are from it can be a much better deal.
I incorporated in Singapore, definitely worth it in the end, fuck being in the top income tax bracket back home.

>>2793775
>who think they can simply travel and not pay taxes
evading taxes in foreign countries is so trivial that 85iq indians can do it

sorry that you don't meet that very(very) low bar

>>2788816
>At least I'll get to retire before I'm 50
How?

>>2793815
I don't know how Indian taxes work but I assume it's like their legal system and literally no enforcement
For white men, from white countries you are going to get assraped down the line pretending you aren't a tax resident of any country.
Please explain to us all your answer the tax office in the place that issues you a passport says:
>"so where were you a tax resident in 2025?"
Not a single country that gave you a tourist visa will acknowledge you.
You're literally making my point for me with a comment like that. You're fucking delusional hey.
Want to save cash, incorporate in a decent jurisdiction, there's cheaper upfront cost and corporate rate places than Singapore but banking becomes a complete fucking mess once you cheap out on it. You bank being some random Caribbean tax haven island creates all these issues now, it might have been fine a decade ago, but not now.
offshorecorptalk is a great resource for anyone going down this path, good advice there

>>2792978
isnt that full of groids?

>>2792829
Just be born into a non-shit family?

>>2792969
Not anymore now that the Russians bought everything and raised prices 10x.

>>2793836
Ok so just tell me where to incorporate if I just want internet income from various sources like youtube, selling shit on etsy, bitcoin scams, etc.

I think I fucked it up in here. I'm 23, doing Computer Engineering in Brazil, the university is well enough and no debt due to being a federal public uni, but I'm not feeling that well about this career. This is supposed to be a bridge between EE and CS right? I really don't want to be pigeon holed into pure programming or embedded roles...

Looking at this place and the archives of /trv/, it feels like there is no easy path for normal easy-going career pathways to travel, I don't know, some sort of job in Finance? or Pilot? Aerospace Engineer?

Not to mention the taxes in this country. God damn it, you can incorporate and work as a consultant. That lets you accumulate capital on the corporate side of the tax barrier so to speak. But the tax authorities can show up at any time, claim that your one man company is “overcapitalized” and force you to pay income taxes on your earnings.

>>2788517 (OP)
What a remote job a dummy like me can do? This seems like it be fun for a while atleast. The only travel jobs I have the background to do would be merc or sea container security Ive traveled like that already it sucks. I've got a decent amount of money put away plus 80k from the government for school. I spent some of it already at a machinist trade school.

>retards here actually pay taxes
pathetic and gay I haven’t paid a single penny in the last 20 years

>>2792803
>cybersecurity
pretty sure USA govt is subsidizing apprenticeships for this specifically. Look into it.

>>2793998
Just move to a normal country lol?

>>2793771
That is what I thought of but don't know what such devices exist? I already have my home VPN set up on my box so I can connect to it with my personal laptop and use it remotely as if I were home. But can I use either my personal laptop or some wifi relay device to act as a tunnel for the company laptop?