What's a good way to carry large sums of money in case one gets robbed for their slingbag or wallet at knife or gun point?

Don't carry large sums of money and avoid getting robbed at gun point.
Beyond that, I use a moneybelt like in your pic and keep it completely hidden under pants. It smells like dick and balls sweat but it's not visible unless they have the time and will to force me to strip.

>>2789106 (OP)
street smarts is by far and away the best way to avoid getting robbed, but if you post on 4chan that may not be your strong point. your picrel does actually work if you aren't a skinny female wearing lo rise trousers

my friend lived in a robbery hotspot for a year doing erasmus (barcelona). literally every person in his group got robbed at some point. what he ended up doing was having a money belt (he had a chest pack that went under his shirt but same idea) that was kept secret. he also had a second wallet with a small amount of cash in it, and a couple of expired cards. so when he did get mugged it was an affordable, efficient and safe transaction

phone theft is a bigger problem, pickpockets and muggers can tell the difference between an iphone bulge and an android one at a hundred paces. you can get older models relatively cheaply if you want to try the decoy approach but laggy and slow apps are really fucking annoying

>>2789106 (OP)
I keep an encrypted flash drive with enough Bitcoin on it for most emergencies. If I get everything else stolen, in at least some countries I can cash out enough that I don't need to worry about funds.

>>2789106 (OP)
you want something like pic rel

but also
>What's a good way to carry large sums of money
just don't anon...
>in case one gets robbed for their slingbag or wallet at knife or gun point?
you wear a hidden wallet around your chest
AND
you have a burner (fake) wallet to give to the robbe

like with phones as well
always have a second one you can "give" away when robbed

>>2789533
>encrypted flash drive with enough Bitcoin
what if this gets stolen?
or you are forced at gunpoint to transfer to Bitcoin?

honestly I don't understand why people use crypto as backup
banks already solved this problem
you stuff gets stolen -> make a police report -> call the bank, tell them it was fraud and you get everything back

>>2789124
Id argue people on 4chan likely have more street smarts than the average faggot on reddit, or the average person for that matter.

After watching 100+ hours of robberies, murders and other shenanigans, people who frequent here are probably more on edge than the average retard, I certainly am, and no, ive never been robbed.

Theres something to be said about how you carry yourself. If you look aware and tough, the robber may consider you too difficult a target, but concealed wallets and a burner wallet in the event of a robbery are both great strategies if youre traveling through shitholes where such things are necessary.

>>2789564
>Theres something to be said about how you carry yourself. If you look aware and tough,
>the robber may consider you too difficult a target
that's only true if they'd target you specifically, in the open

i'm /fit/, 2meter tall and have a full beard, people (even drunk / high ones) are usually very tame around me

and the only time my wife and I got robbed was during a night stop of a long distance bus when traveling Brazil
they were happy about the 2 burner phones and burner wallet (with like 50brl ~ 7€ in it) we gave them

Generally speaking, are muggers able to be negotiated with?

Their #1 demand: "Give me your wallet!"

Would it be possible to compromise and just give them the cash? The cash is obviously what they actually want. The credit cards are gonna be cancelled eventually, and it would be a pain in the ass to get your driver's license and other essential cards replaced.

>>2789577
>Generally speaking, are muggers able to be negotiated with?
really depends
but most likely no

it's really hard to keep composure if someone with a knife or gun stands in front of you
you'll rarely see it coming too
but you can train for this
for everyone who does not, this will mean a panic reaction

also the reason why your burner phone / wallet must be more easily accessible than your actual wallet / phone
because during a panic situation you'll reach for the easier one without thinking

what you can't control, the muggers behavior
>muggers are rarely rational
they are either high, retarded or both
you can get stabbed / shot no matter if it makes sense

if you only take the cash out of your wallet them might think you have more and make them angry
if you give them the wallet they have no incentive to give it back
so either way, you lose

don't be stupid anon
just get a burner wallet with a few €/$ equivalent in it

Avoid shithole countries

>>2789533
Anon, I don't even have words for the levels of autism this is on.

>>2789106 (OP)
Split your money in multiple places and keep critical documents in the safe and bring copies

>buy picrel
>hide chain in pocket with wallet
>also doubles as a good way to make sure it doesn't "fall out" at the bar

>slingbag or wallet at knife or gun point?
I don't go to europe much so I can't comment. Most the time you're getting scammed first and foremost followed by your bike or bag stolen, or pick pocketed.

>>2789671
your flimsy little chain is no deterrent to a professional romanian pickpocket

>>2789106 (OP)
Keep your driver's license and other import shit in a pocket not your wallet give them the wallet and cancel cards , there is no "good" way to carry large sums other than stay strapped or get clapped

>>2789533
why not just remember an emergency phrase, or keep a piece of paper with it head encrypted?

>>2789106 (OP)
Keep your property distributed at all times.

>bumbag with money and cards
>notes in socks
>emergency card sewn inside jacket
>copies of passports screwed up in bottom of back to look unimportant
>gadgets like fake lighters and plug converters to stash folded up cash
>coin bag in pocket to give as burner cash
>chequebook hidden inside chocolate wrapper

It might take a few extra minutes before leaving, but it can save your finances.

>>2790772
that really sounds a bit over the top

you really only need passport copy + credit card + ~20$/€ cash placed at like 2 different location, plus a burner wallet
and there isn't any (realistic) situation you can't get out of with this

credit cards often offer emergency cash services as well
and your smartphone with a mobile wallet (albeit less accepted) is another layer of backup

>chequebook
i literally never saw a cheque irl and i've been traveling for 10y+

>>2790783
traveler's cheques and western union transfers are the OG way of traveling. you faggots wouldn't understand with your gay bits of plastic.

>>2790788
>traveler's cheques and western union transfers are the OG way of traveling
maybe if you are 50yo+, idk
traveling in the late 2000s / early 2010s I sometimes had to search / research for ATMs to get cash, but that's about it
and today it's ubiquitous, you don't even need (a lot of) cash for many countries

>wouldn't understand with your gay bits of plastic
what's the problem with credit cards?
they are extremely widely accepted (excluding a handful of countries like China) and super convenient
really don't understand your problem with them and your reliance on cash

>>2790772
If you leave cash hidden in too many places, you can lose track of it. Money can work its way out of a sock if you walk a lot...it happened to me once in Mexico. I will never put money in a sock again.

I also avoid putting cash in my luggage, except in cases where the risk of hotel staff poking through my bags is negligible compared to the risk of some knife-wielding druggies swarming me from an alley entrance. In such shithole surroundings, I will leave most of my cash behind in my hotel room for that outing. Also leave the room key tag behind, so no mugger can find out where you are staying.

The mugger's wallet is always a good idea if you can feel the desperation in the air when you hit the streets. Have an old ID inside, a no-good or inactive bank card, and $30 of local currency (or whatever you can reasonably expect to spend in an evening at your travel budget level). Rubber-banding cash around your current ID and bank card is my personal favorite; cargo pants side pockets are difficult to pickpocket.

If you plan on engaging in illegal activity like buying drugs, carry a larger sum of cash outside of your wallet, like $200-300. Not having enough cash to pay off the cops on the spot can be a mistake you'll regret for a long time afterwards as you make your way through the justice system.

>>2789106 (OP)
I just bought a pacsafe wallet chain. It's neat. Maybe it jingles too much. I use a front pouch wallet and it doesn't "hang" all that well in that position. Maybe it makes me look badass. I forget cards in ATMs a lot. Not worried about robbers. Are wallet chains cool? Yeppers. I'll probably throw it away soon.

>>2790217
>your flimsy little chain is no deterrent to a professional romanian pickpocket
Yeah no shit but I'm not going to be stuck with those "people" normally.

99% of pickpockets are looking for easy wins not something that puts them in unnecessary risk.

>>2789649
Avoid America where the ICE agents will steal your stuff and send you to another location. Got it.

My last few travels have been in western Europe, so I've admittedly gotten complacent and haven't taken any serious security measures.

The most "dangerous" country I've been in was India. What I did there was keep my wallet in my pocket like usual, but I was on constant high alert when I was outside.

If I ever visit South America, Africa, or eastern Europe, I'm probably just gonna carry less than the equivalent of $50 USD cash. These countries are typically low-cost so that amount could probably carry me a long way, and on the off-chance I do get robbed or pickpocketed, it's such a small amount that it wouldn't ruin me financially.

>>2791008
>western europe
>made me complacent

>eastern europe
>dangerous

o lawd.

>>2791047
That's my bad, eastern Europe is such a broad description. I highly doubt Lithuania and Estonia are that dangerous. For the record, I am not including Poland or Czech Republic, last I heard they prefer to be called "central" Europe.

>>2791102
Based. Carry on.

>>2789106 (OP)
Meanwhile I went to Japan with 200k yen in my bag, left it on a beach while I went to swim, came back and not a soul had touched it. Left it on a seat while I went to the restroom in numerous restaurants, not one finger was laid on it.

Travel somewhere that isn't a shithole.

>>2791406
>travel somewhere where there are no blacks or browns

>>2791429
Even Japan has those.
>Nigerians
>Indians
>Sri Lankans
>Iranians
>Brazilians

You would think Nigerians are the biggest troublemakers, but according to my Japanese grandmother, the Iranians are the worst.

>>2791102
Nowadays Western Europe is way more dangerous than Eastern Europe. Especially France, Italy and Spain are full of robbers. The only dangerous country in Eastern Europe is Ukraine because of the war.

>>2789106 (OP)
Don't go to slums with large sums of money. When I go to dangerous areas in Latin America, I carry only a little cash and an old phone to take photos.

>>2791459
Sometimes money is not the target and being on safe citys like Zapopan won’t protect you. Don’t just assume the “slumps” are the worst when you tourist have zero knowledge if the land.

>>2791458
>Especially France, Italy and Spain are full of robbers
only one of those has a more serious crime problem
that is France and only in certain neighborhoods
but 99% of the country is as safe as it gets

for the most part it's "only" pickpocketing / petty crime in the super touristy regions

again, still not great
but you can easily avoid that with the standard travel precautions
and you're never in harms way (it's "just" money / phones)

>>2791458
Neither western nor eastern Europe are dangerous.

>>2791504
this. if you fuck about in certain neighbourhoods you are asking for it. Pretty much the same as in any country to be honest.