Has travelling made you more or less racist?

yes

>>2789325 (OP)
>Has travelling made you more or less racist?
shouldn't it make you more nationalist? (regionalist would probably be more accurate as most nation borders are pretty arbitrary)

i don't think traveling has any influence on being racist though
you can confirm and amplify or, just as easily, reduce and negate stereotypes
all depends on where you go and what you do in the respective regions

>>2789333
Thid picture is my ideology. I'd rather spend a week in Bhubaneswar, Isfahan or Dakar, where you can find homogenous nations with a common goal continuing the traditions og their forefathers with high trust and frirndly mentality rather than some post-national economic zone like Brussels, Toronto or Buenos Aires where the natives have been displaced and dispossessed

>>2789328
>Yes, travel has made me more racist and less racist.
Based and the only correct answer. You become more acutely aware of flaws inherent in a race, while also noticing and appreciating their strengths.

Racist? I dunno, maybe.
But it has made me truly understand why borders exist.

>>2789325 (OP)
It’s made me aware that some people see white people as an easy target to rob/scam, and to be aware of this when I’m traveling. I might not be racist but race certainly exists.

>>2789325 (OP)
I still hate American blaks and Latinos are an honorable mention. Even Muslims are alright in my book

I wasn't racist to begin with, and traveling confirmed my assumption that most people are just trying to get by and aren't actively malicious, no matter where you go. I have also been continuously surprised by the generosity and hospitality of people in many different countries.

It hasn't changed how racist I am, but I have become more sexist and ageist.

The only people I want to see are women aged 18-35. If you are a man or if you are outside of this age range, I am not interested in talking to you.

>>2789404
>I still hate American blaks
Does this mean you like native Africans and blacks who live in other countries (Canada, UK, Germany, etc.)?

>>2789416
you don't like friends?
I like women too but when I'm not horny I like to spend time with my friends who are men to laugh and enjoy life with.

>>2789413
Some countries treat their visitors so much better than they treat each other...or their animals, or their environment.
>>2789365
They see me as a hard target, i.e. I just might value my money more than my life.

>>2789348
But diversity is our... wait... why does every western city look like New Delhi now?

The worst thing that can ever happen to you is an Indian sliding into the seat next to you on a long flight. I cannot handle the smell.

it's made me somewhat of a authoritarian for sure.

I don't want white countries to turn into a mix of india and south africa, but I also don't want them to turn into japan or norway, where being overly homogeneous led to the people becoming weird and fussy about small things and hating on their 99% genetically and culturally similar neighbors while falling into irrelevancy.

and in my mind the way to go about it is just to have a strong state that simultaneously encourages skilled foreigners to immigrate while also believing race exists and implementing policies to curate demographics in order to protect the core block of natives and their way of life like Singapore or Australia(until recently)

>>2789325 (OP)
Oddly enough, both at the same time.

What traveling has done has made me appreciate homogenous societies and strong cultural traditions more- no matter the race- I've been to every continent and just about every region on the planet and loved pretty much every country I've been to for different reasons and the people within. The flip side of this though, where I may be called racist, is that this experience has even further strengthened my anti-immigrant stance in the West, and that we really need to do something to take our own countries back. However, this olive branch is extended to non-Western countries too- seeing other non-Western countries get flooded with immigrants not from their country or even over-tourism (eg Japan)- even from other Westerners- makes me just as sick as seeing Western Europe get flooded with immigrants who are clearly not from there. For example, watching Germany get flooded with Turkish immigrants is sad and frustrating to see, but I have been to Turkey before and loved Turkey and the Turkish people within Turkey, and in return I feel bad that Turkey itself is flooded with immigrants from Syria. I think we just need a few decades where we just put this globalist experiment on pause and see if this is the direction we still want to go in, the whole world is way too over socialized at the moment and its actually causing global relations to worsen- not improve.

>>2789621
>don't want white countries to turn into a mix of india and south africa
>also don't want them to turn into japan or norway
historically that's how the most successful nations / empires operated
somewhat open, but no mass migration - with the notable counter example of the USA in the last ~200y

you always want a little immigration to
>get new ideas into your country
>prevent xenophobia to prevent costly (unnecessary) wars
most of the interesting cultural quirks you find anywhere are made this way; a foreign tradition but localized and adjusted

historically these were mainly trade people, scientists, entrepreneurs or adventurers (in a wider sense)
and in recent decades also specialized professions

>>2789629
>even over-tourism (eg Japan)
that's a really odd example for overtourism
they rank somewhere 11th to 13th place globally for international arrivals and a lot lower for GDP% from tourism (~1%)
and most tourism really focuses on Tokyo (plus somewhat Osaka and Kyoto)
the rest of the country is basically void of foreign tourists

>>2789631
It's a mentally ill weeb that makes anything about his children cartoons.

>>2789631
You've never been to Tokyo, Osaka or Kyoto in the mid 2000's like I have before tourism to Japan became a thing. Night and day difference, these cities in Japan were like traveling to a different planet back then. They absolutely are way over saturated with tourists now. This new idea that big cities absolutely must = globalist, blank slate, economic hubs filled with foreign immigrants and tourists as the norm needs to fucking die already. It wasn't this way even a decade ago, and it shouldn't be now either. Tokyo and Kyoto used to be brimming with authentic culture with few if any foreigners, even in areas like Shibuya and Akihabara, and now they are just boring tourist trap slop with a handful of jaded locals tired of dealing with foreigners.

>>2789634
4chan derived from the japanese 2chan
so there is an inevitable skew towards everything japanese i guess

>>2789635
>muh too many tourist
>t. tourist
kek

>This new idea that big cities absolutely must = globalist, blank slate, economic hubs filled with foreign immigrants and tourists
and wtf are you talking about
the development of modern japanese cities has little to do with tourism or immigration!

also who are you to dictate japanese businesses on whom to target?
>b-but my (((authentic))) experience
it's still authentic, just not the "authentic" you like

tourism grew everywhere because air travel is less expensive and people have more money in general
but again, Japan is far away from actual overtourism, except maybe 2 spots in Tokyo

if you want over tourism go to Tenerife, Mallorca, Venice, Dubrovnik, Bruges etc.

>now they are just boring tourist trap slop with a handful of jaded locals tired of dealing with foreigners.
and apparently you are too stupid to leave Tokyo
if you did, you would find that rural / small town Japan hasn't changed that much
much like in every Asian country
and also the biggest counterexample to your anti tourism rambling
>China
basically no international tourists to speak of in all but the big 4 T1 cities
yet cities like Qingdao or Chengdu are perfect examples of your globalist, blank slate, economic hubs
and similar to Japan, if you leave the city centers or better the city proper, you still find your kind of "authenticity"

>>2789638
I like big cities. I don't like boring rural areas, especially in Asia where QOL falls off a cliff the further out from city centers you get, no shit nobody goes there, not even the locals, because it fucking sucks. Idiots like you however are ruining big cities by projecting your New Yorkificiation "melting pot" bullshit to once former great and authentic cities like Tokyo, Osaka, Bangkok, Da Nang, etc, especially after COVID. NPC's should be banned from traveling.

>if you want over tourism go to Tenerife, Mallorca, Venice, Dubrovnik, Bruges etc.

I've been all over Europe, I literally mentioned Europe in my original post you illiterate dumb fuck, and literally mentioned that they have the same fucking problem. You and this autistic spaz >>2789634 seem more obsessed over Japan than I do, I just mentioned it as one off example. Now I know why you losers have to hide out in "muh rural areas" because you have the social skills of a spastic 12 year old and can't deal with all the people in big cities, and probably too poor too. Have fun in your abandoned dusty rural villages, dumbass, please continue to stay away from the general public.

>>2789630
>with the notable counter example of the USA in the last ~200y
More like the last 60 years with the passage of the Hart-Cellar Act and other immigration expansions. America's historically strict immigration filters were an inspiration for Hitler. He wrote about how these policies siphoned off many of the world's highest quality Germanics and created a powerful nation:
America is Germanic (Mein Kampf, Volume 1 Chapter 11):
>The North American population consists overwhelmingly of Germanic elements which have mingled very little with inferior colored peoples and this shows a very different sort of civilization and culture from Central and South America. [...] The racially pure and almost unmixed Germanic peoples on the American Continent have risen to become the master of their land. He will remain the master as long as he does not yield to blood pollution by mixing with lesser races.
America is filled with the "healthiest and most energetic" Germanic emigrants (Mein Kampf, Volume 1 Chapter 2):
>Experience shows that emigrant groups are more likely to be made up of the healthiest and most energetic individuals. And these emigrants include not only the man who goes to America, but also the young farm-hand who leaves his native village to move to the distant big city.
Here he extols the virtue of American immigration policy over Germany's (Mein Kampf, Volume 2 Chapter 3):
>I know that people will not enjoy hearing all this, but there is nothing more empty-headed and insane than our present naturalization law. Currently there is one state that is making at least a feeble effort to create a better system. Of course, it is not our model German Republic where this good sense has taken hold, but the United States of America. By excluding all immigrants who are unhealthy and outright refusing entry to certain races, the Americans are showing at least faint signs of a common attitude in the race-based Nationalist state idea.

>>2789631
>11th to 13th place globally
Out of how many countries?

>>2789648
>Out of how many countries?
~190
but it keeps falling off quickly after the first few and Japan is big

probably more interesting would be tourist arrivals per capita
where Japan ranks 130th...

>>2789644
japan isn't over-touristed they just funnel the tourists into like five neighborhoods and then get all spastic about it.

in fact japan has bigger problems like trying to funnel everyone into tokyo and then complaining that their rural QoL fell off a cliff and they're rapidly deteriorating into SEA levels of megacity contrasted by abject poverty when they used to be one of the most developed nations in the region.

>>2789658
>13th out of 190 countries
>not overtouristed

Ok buddy, keep coping. Either way, my original post wasn't about Japan anyways, not sure why you fucking morons keep spazing out about it. Take your fucking meds.

>>2789325 (OP)
I dont travel and I hate White People

>>2789662
name checks out

>>2789333
Checked but of course it should. Most people's only exposure to other cultures is through tv. And they are told how beautiful and good they are. When you actually spend time around these people and see what they're like you WILL eventually become racist if you're there long enough.

>>2789352
It's like this for everything, your opinion becomes more nuanced.
For instance /pol/ has been telling me how horrible browns in Europe are and how the cities are all overrun. But I went and had zero problems with them and there weren't that many.
Conversely after visiting Mexico City my opinion on Mexicans, which was largely positive, changed entirely and now I want a 100 foot high landmined and drone guarded border wall.

>>2789681
Was your previous opinion on Mexicans based on interactions with Mexicans in other regions or just a nebulous idea of what Mexicans might be like?

>>2789325 (OP)
It makes no difference. If you're on 4chan, chances are you already were a racist.

Traveling doesn't increase or decrease a channie's racism. What you perceive as an "increase" is actually just confirmation of what you already believed. What you perceive as a "decrease" is actually just you not seeing what you already believed right then and there.

You are as racist as you were.

>>2789706
I dealt with Mexicans in limited capacities in America
Honestly the analogy I came up with is cats. Seeing one or two cats and you're like 'aww.' But if there are a hundred cats in the room suddenly it's an unholy abomination. that's what going to an entire NYC sized place of Mexicans is like.

Travelling exposed me to gypsies, so yeah, it made me more racist.

>>2789325 (OP)

way more. I grew up in an all white suburb in the US and I was totally anti racist then. believed that the core of racism was lack of exposure to other culturez. nope. it was actually interacting with non whites that eventually turned me. the noise, the smells, increases danger, and so many nuisances. like these fucking Somalian kids stole the ropes I used to secure my garbage cans. some Congolese neighbors throw bloody menstrual pads out the wind and let them sit in the yard. the Indians nearby have piles of trash outside their house they don't pick up, but made sure to trim the trees so they still have a good view into my windows. visiting China in 2005 was especially eye opening, complete dystopian shithole, go outside Shanghai and it's just awful. rude disgusting people spitting and street shitting just like Indians. visited Belize, the Mayans everyone think are so profound are essentially just jungle gypsies, except lazier and dumber.

I'm reluctant to travel outside of Europe anymore, and frankly I don't feel the need to "travel" anymore, I just want vacations. non western cultures are shit

In general more, with a few exceptions. Love chaos but appreciate my culture and people a lot more after seeing how the rest of the world lives.

>>2789635
Went in 2002, so before smart phones and social media. Can confirm. Different planet.

>>2789516
>just might value my money more than my life.
why would you admit to such a dumb thing like that? do you think it makes you sounds tough?

>>2789325 (OP)
pic related: >>2789333

>>2789325 (OP)
It awoke a deep racism against Chinese I wasn't prepared for.

>>2789660
Objectively speaking Japan is not overtouristed outside of ~5 tourist traps. Look at certain places in Europe if you want to know what overtourism actually looks like. You're just a faggot.
>>2789658
The pants-shitting over tourists is phenomenal to watch. There will be 99 Japs on a crowded train car and one white guy, and everyone points their finger at whitey as to why they are smashed like sardines in a tin can. Half the tourists are domestic anyway, so are Japs going to be mad at other Japs? No one but domestic tourists are collecting those stamps. And even then, people are quick to get rabid about overtourism when thinking it's some American weeb in cargo pants, but when it turns out that most of the foreign tourists are Chinese in massive tour buses suddenly those same people go silent. Not brave enough to call Chang out?

They have signs in every toilet instructing people not to stand on the seat when shitting. Those signs aren't for Americans.

>>2789644
Bullshit. Big cities in Asia are ass. Pollution, traffic, trash, beat-to-shit infrastructure, rude stressed-out people, extreme inequality. Small cities can be ass as well, but I've discovered numerous hidden gems while wandering around. Clean, quiet, well-kept places with friendly people and great pedestrian spaces.

>>2789325 (OP)
>grow up in appalachia
>parents from norway so im first generation
>at age 25, see the rest of america
>im fully redneck
>i see the light
>by god rednecks fucking suck and so does appalachia
>holy shit america has some really awesome places
>fuck appalachia and the subhumans within it

>>2790470
which places

Travelling in Asia has ironically made me more hostile to other westerners, so I expect when I go to Europe I'll probably turn hostile to thirdies. Swings and round abouts.

>>2789348
>homogeneity is when everyone has the same skin pigment
amerilard education

>>2789325 (OP)
>Racism
Unchanged

>Misanthropy
Increased. Traveling and the internet made me realize that the majority of people are shit everywhere, not just where I live

>>2790482
The mountains out west, many states to pick from

>>2789681
mexico city is pure 3rd world SOVL, literally how could you not enjoy it unless you got randomly beat up or robbed?
do you speak spanish or just monolingoid?

>>2790645
ok spanish
idk it's just shit. as I get older I guess I get tired of shit. mexico city was shit that was especially scammy and chaotic and unfriendly

>>2790491
Of course, the difference between Wolof and Fulanis in Senegal is the exact same as between Somalis and Norwegians.

>>2789325 (OP)
It made me feel both at the same time like >>2789333 particularly after visiting Western Europe and the USA as an Eastern European, compared to my previous experience in the 1990s there, I also went around the MENA region and Japan, Korea, Taiwan, and Australia.

I despise how many places have become tourist hotspots but also how homogenized the cities become no matter where you go and how that bleeds into surround areas, I mean seriously it was probably the worst when I was in London and Rome, and Boston. Some actual Paris Syndrome type stuff, it made me feel sick.

I fucking envy how all the third worlders on the other hand still get to have their home to go back to after all of it while I have to just stand and watch mine become a stinky messy cosmopolitan pile of shit.