I'm from Oregon and I'm fully booked (hotel, airfare, rental car) for a quick (week-long) scottish getaway this upcoming October
I'm considering moving there because I'm tired of the rat race in the corporate hellhole that is the good ole USA
I know jobs are scarce and I'm going against the grain of young people moving away. But I'm nay young and I've a tidy sum saved up
Chatgpt tells me I can live somewhat comfortably in suburban Glasgow for like 2.8k usd/month
Is this true? what am I in for?

Why on Earth would you want to visit Scotland? Especially when Ireland and England are right next door?

>>2794300 (OP)
First of all, what do you actually do? Are you living off passive income?
>Chatgpt tells me I can live somewhat comfortably in suburban Glasgow for like 2.8k usd/month
>Is this true?
It would be a bit of a squeeze, but you'd be OK.

I wouldn't worry about the idea of moving there before you visit, though.

I know Portland and most cities in Oregon are anarchist-infested shitholes but trust me, you do not want to live in the Glasgow area.
>terrible food
>abysmal weather
>most of the population are alcoholics and drug addicts
>literally nothing to do except drink and smoke ciggies
>anywhere south of the Clyde is majority paki, specifically the machete wielding ones
If you're gonna consider Scotland and are fine with the weather aim for Edinburgh or a smaller town if you're fine to learn a bit of Gaelic. Even then I wouldn't recommend it as most Scots end up leaving for England or mainland Europe if they have the money to do so.

>>2794300 (OP)
well anon if you want to move to glasgow then you can do it on £2k a month (especially if you can buy a property outright so you're spending £2k on consooming and not renting money from a bank)
but glasgow is one of those places you need to experience before considering moving there. the weather over winter can be awful - much narrower band than Oregon, it is normally very cold and wet and dark but limited snow and ice, so it just sucks, and the rare summer day over 20C is talked about for months. glasgow's famous social problems were more of a thing back in the 1980s but you still get severe deprivation, sectarianism, drug problems, all that kind of thing over large parts of the city
there are plus sides. it is fun to live in if you make some friends (and glaswegians are friendly). and you get access to scotland's nature which attracts folk from all over the planet

if you want to live in the exurbs life is a bit sleepier but you need less money. also you don't need to know any gaelic anywhere in scotland, everyone in the remotest parts of argyll or the highlands speaks english anyway

>>2794473
>the weather over winter can be awful - much narrower band than Oregon, it is normally very cold and wet and dark but limited snow and ice, so it just sucks, and the rare summer day over 20C is talked about for months.
this sounds like heaven to me
two summers ago it got to like 115 in fucking Portland
I can't do heat bro

>>2794436
>most Scots end up leaving for England or mainland Europe if they have the money to do so.
Summarize why? Just lack of opportunity or? Everyone says people are friendly and seemingly really proud of their country?

>>2794300 (OP)
>I'm from Oregon
London or Berlin will be a better fit for you antifa types

>>2794436
A bheil Gaidhlig agaibh? Not OP, but which place in the Highlands is bearable to learn Gaelic? I have been to Inverness before and liked it, but I prefer somewhere that has a high percentage of speakers and hardly any non-Whites.

>>2794605
Nowhere in Scotland really 'speaks' Scottish Gaelic as a first language, but people put more effort into being bilingual in the highland areas - it's still very rare that you find a fluent speaker though. If you really want to learn a form of Gaelige, I'd recommend Irish Gaelic instead. They're pretty much mutually intelligible but the key difference is that there is a (small) area of Ireland called the Gaeltacht where it's still spoken as a first language (albeit only by about 2% of the population).

Ironically the Celtic language that most Americans ignore, Welsh, is the most healthy one. About 20% of Welsh people speak Cymraeg natively and it's very easy to find a town of Welsh first language speakers.

>>2794582
It is true that a lot of people in the cities move to London for obvious opportunity reasons, but rural towns in the Celtic nations have a pretty decent rate of keeping people (some would say this is a bad thing though). Yes, Scottish people tend to be very proud of their nation especially when speaking to foreigners

>>2794602
Why do you think I'm trying to flee this shithole? Literally see masked unemployed whites wearing the Muslim headscarf thing vandalizing federal buildings on the daily on my commute to the wagecage.
I pay the second highest income tax in the country after the island of Manhattan.
Fuck Oregon and fuck Portland. Wish I hadn't been born here.

>>2794684
>Why do you think I'm trying to flee this shithole? Literally see masked unemployed whites wearing the Muslim headscarf thing vandalizing federal buildings on the daily on my commute to the wagecage.
Honestly mate you've picked the wrong place if you hate smug leftist whites who vandalise shit nonstop while complaining about imperialism or whatever, Scotland is ground zero for those kinds of people in the UK (maybe alongside Brighton in England)

>>2794889
>Scotland is ground zero for those kinds of people in the UK
Why is that? Are they simply more culturally "liberal"? don't they have fewer browns than, say, Ireland?

>>2795072
>Why is that? Are they simply more culturally "liberal"? don't they have fewer browns than, say, Ireland?
They vote for brown people, but the vast majority of immigrants go to London and other wealthier parts of England anyway, so they never feel the effects. Most foreigners don't realise this, but Celtic nationalism is very left wing. Sinn Fein, the SNP, Plaid, all of them are "Brits out blacks in" types.

>>2795197
Straight up suicidal ideation by these folks. I don't get it. They fiercely defended their lands from Romans, vikings, the English
only to give it away to muzzies and joggers. What a shame

>>2794524
heh I am originally from scotland, moved to london to make coin, and with climate change I am planning on moving back 20 years before I thought I would as the summers down here have become disgusting and unbearable. and I start finding it too warm at around 21C / 70F. north of 40C is just awful, how do they cope in the middle east

>>2794605
gaelic is hard to learn as an adult, because everyone has english already and that is used as the default. even in places like uist they assume anyone they don't know doesn't speak gaelic and just use english
there are a lot of gaelic medium schools popping up, so if you are five years old get your mum to send you to one of those schools

>>2795484
>and with climate change
Oh you are one of those. FFS man. You actually believe that bullshit?

>>2795507
Who cares? Climate is changing--as it always has--could be he doesn't buy into the man-made bit
>>2795484
I'm jealous. 80s is normal in the summertime here. That's considered a tame summer day, that.
I like cold and windy but I dislike snow and ice, so what was described above does sound like the perfect weather for me.
I hope I fall in love with the country (though likely have very little chance of actually migrating; no familial connection, already married, not in a sought after field, etc.)

>>2795507
>calling someone retarded for believing an obvious fact
Just a /trv/ thing!

>>2794300 (OP)
What part of Oregon are you from? I've lived here my whole life and am also planning on moving to Europe.

>>2794300 (OP)
>I'm from Portland, Oregon
>considering moving to Scotland
there's a very high probability you romanticize life in Scotland and you'll be terribly bored
for once you got way less outdoorsy stuff and you're moving from metro of 2mio pop. to a 500k city

if you like being /out/
consider moving to Switzerland, Austria, Munich or Milan instead (just a few examples)
i know 2 people from Oregon that moved to Europe, one in Munich one in Zürich, both are pretty happy with their choice

EU immigration is also dirt easy for US citizens, no clue about UK

>>2794684
>I pay the second highest income tax in the country after the island of Manhattan.
yeah you should strongly consider Switzerland instead
Austria, Germany or Italy are gonna be fine as well, but similar taxes and - from US view - less libertarian

>>2795612
>for once you got way less outdoorsy stuff
I've never been hiking in my life

>>2795706
>I've never been hiking in my life
it's not only hiking
everything around being /out/
camping, biking, kayaking, skiing, climbing etc.

that's the reason most people move to Oregon in the first place, isn't it?
so I just guessed if you're from there you like being outdoor as well
and the alps are just a lot more similar to Oregon than Scotland in that regard