Moving abroad to escape neetdom - /trv/ (#2798763) [Archived: 289 hours ago]

Anonymous
7/1/2025, 6:04:41 AM No.2798763
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I haven't worked in over two years. The job scene where I live is a beyond dead crater. I'm considering moving abroad to get me out a deep funk. But I haven't worked in so long that that combined with being in a foreign country seems daunting. Please advise
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 6:37:25 AM No.2798768
>unable to find employment in a familiar environment for an extended period, blaming incompetence to the "job scene"
>wants to move to a new and unfamiliar environment expecting life to do a 360 and moonwalk away from all problems
Escape to Rope Country instead.
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 10:36:29 AM No.2798809
>>2798763 (OP)
>Moving abroad to escape neetdom
do you have a concrete plan?
or is it just an isekai fantasy... but moving instead of getting reborn?

because the latter one will 100% not work
and
>>2798768
>Escape to Rope Country instead.
will unironically have an higher chance to success

psychologically it can absolutely make sense to move though
a new start / reset helps your brain a lot
just do it with a plan

>search for a profession you like and wanna do
>research a lot, train and get some certification that'll help you
>then move
>and immediately apply

your plan can be as stupid as working on a beach bar
doesn't matter
but you NEED to have a plan
and follow it
not just expect everything to magically get better
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 1:08:10 PM No.2798832
>>2798763 (OP)
>haven't worked in so long that that combined with being in a foreign country seems daunting
What difference would it make? If you are going to be a shut in loser, might as well be comfortable doing it in your own home. Being in a foreign 3rd world shithole might help get you out the door momentarily because it's cheap, but the novelty will wear off quickly. Maybe consider something beyond yourself, like volunteering.
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 7:16:45 PM No.2798928
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>>2798763 (OP)
>can't get a job or education in your native country
>expecting for things to be different in a foreign country that potentially doesn't even speak your tongue natively
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 7:40:57 PM No.2798943
>>2798763 (OP)
You either resign yourself to the “Pecker’s Paradox (also know as the Pendulum of the Pecker) or you rope. Simple as
>but what is the Peckers Paradox?
The Pecker’s Paradox is when you inapporpriatley pursue a hedonistic lifestyle of pleasure abroad when you don’t have the financial means to sustain it.

Inevitably you’re forced back to the misery of your home country with the burning heroin-like withdrawal and thus you are compelled to suffer through a miserable existence to work up the money to again allow the Pecker’s Pendulum to swing back to the side of bliss and joy, but the velocity of the swinging is only arrested by how much money you have. It’s a romantic and literary sort of Faustian life but it involves long stretches of suffering and intense longing

One of the worst things I have to endure is when a random pecker player asks me “when are you coming back” and I have to tell her “next summer” and she goes “oh very far :(“

Yes, “very far.” I have to contend with half the duration of my life just longing to enjoy it. I wonder what Napoleon felt when he was exiled to St. Helena and guarded by British soldiers. How his destiny, his soul, his spirit was extinguished….
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 7:46:13 PM No.2798947
Are you getting neetbux or how are you surviving now?
Do you have any savings?
How old are you and where are you from? (it matters for some working holiday visas)
The easiest foreign job to get is usually teaching English in a 3rd world country, if you're fluent/white
There's also wwoof / helpx / workaway type jobs, even in developed countries, but I think the pay is usually just room and board and maybe a poverty wage, they're more to allow you to survive being a travel bum
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 1:11:16 AM No.2799035
>>2798763 (OP)
What kind of country are you in and what kind of country are you planning to go to? There's a meta for losers in rich countries going to poor countries and a meta for losers in poor countries going to rich countries.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 12:39:42 AM No.2799288
>>2798768
I was unable to find work in the U.S. for two years after graduating law school. Moved to Taiwan, got hired in-house as foreign legal advisor, had standing offers from several law firms I worked with, fifteen years later I have a net worth exceeding US$1,000,000. Worked for me.

The biggest problem I faced in the U.S. is that I am a straight white male, and law firms are big on hiring only faggots, niggers, femoids, and pajeets. The one firm that contacted me during my entire job search in the U.S. asked me just one single question, "do you need a work visa to be in the U.S.?", and when I told them no, they stopped all communication. About three months later I was looking at their website and saw that they had hired three pajeets on H-1B visas. Not joking.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 2:18:37 AM No.2799313
Not op, but dunno if I should ask in this board or /biz/, IF I want to move to Japan, a rural area with the business investment VISA, you need a initial capital of 5M yen,and hire at least one person (assume from Japan I guess), dunno if this is for a long term financial, but I also havent worked in some time, I just got this crazy idea and got motivated, but I know im in the near full retard area, but if I can just move, with my pets, I dont care if I live in a rural/semi rural area as long as I have internet,I wish to be in a peaceful place, be left alone from this growing crazy world, and hopefully if there's chance have a family, but I dont know how to start looking up info, that's not random articles that just tells me wonders and in Tokio, from what i read, my biggest fear is going through all that and failing and having to come back with nothing to the country I want to get out of specially because of my pets
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 4:45:50 AM No.2799332
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>>2799288
Good for you. This faggot OP comes in and asks for advice without giving anyone any context, expecting to be given a silver bullet that will 100% solve all his problems. No mention of his current whereabouts, his marketable skills, nothing at all. Zero effort. I offer nothing but ridicule for zero effort faggots.
You managed to finish law school which shows determination and discipline, for all we fucking know OP has done nothing but flip burgers.

>>2799313
Talk to an immigration attorney who processes this kind of visa. You will not be able to do it independently. You cannot just knock on the embassy with a bag containing 5m JPY and expect to come out with a visa on your passport and a COE in your hand.
For one, it will require you to be able to communicate in Japanese, including reading/writing. I won't even mention how anal the government is when it comes to reporting anything that involves money. I once asked my accountant to include my ridiculous gas and toll fees as business expenses but was immediately told it will get rejected because the distance to my home and my business doesn't equate to the amount I spent on gas/tolls.
If you have the money to throw away for such a visa, and even more money to throw away to keep your business afloat, then surely you have the money to pay someone to do all of this for you.
>that's not random articles that just tells me wonder
One simple google will tell you everything you need, unless you refuse to accept the fact that it is not as easy as you think it is and it requires a lot of time, effort, and money.

t. work in Japan, have two businesses both of which are named under my wife because it is simply that much annoying compared to keeping my current visa.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:02:43 AM No.2799335
>>2799332
>3 years of experience
~So I have 15 years of experience buying anime figures and games so i want to place a store
[spoiler]lel[/spoiler]

real talk no jokes, thanks for the advice,realistically how much money do you think I should be saving, I dont mind wage slaving myself for for some more years so I can get out of here properly and with an actual plan

How hard is to manage the business? any chance it just starts working on it's own and you can just take it easy?
Also I can somewhat speak Japanese, Ill be geninuely studying now, for wirting LOL LMAO EVEN
[spoiler]you have no idea how hard I regret those neet years I had at this point,and ot going back to finish those last 6 months for my mechanical enginnering degree,but covid happened[/spoiler]
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:28:11 AM No.2799339
>>2799335
I can tell you right now that that doesn't count as "experience".
To prove work experience, you an employment certificate from current/past employers showing your role/tenure/compensation.
To prove business experience, you need paperwork showing that your business existed, and that you are somehow responsible for it, along with a paper trail showing money movement, primarily showing that you paid taxes.
If you can't even satisfy this requirement then I think you have other things to work on instead of worrying about how to run a business and how to acquire this visa.
My only advice for you is to pursue employment and get a company to sponsor your visa, and from there plan on what you want to do while you're here.
>realistically how much money do you think I should be saving
A lot. Start by talking to immigration lawyers and asking them for some kind of insights based on their past/current clients.
>any chance it just starts working on it's own
No.
>just take it easy?
No, not even if you pay someone to manage it for you.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:36:15 AM No.2799340
>>2799339
>I can tell you right now that that doesn't count as "experience".
well duh I was joking obviously

that kinda sucks, my other option is the US, but man, it does ask for a lot of money and the social aspect is kinda volatile right now, maybe Im just stuck i my 3rd world shithole for good that is going into commie mode most likely in 3-4 years
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:45:08 AM No.2799342
>>2799340
I don't know what else to tell you other than crying woe is me on 4chan won't get you anywhere towards what you said you want.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 9:27:46 AM No.2799354
>>2799342
I know, but again thanks for the answers, i've been looking up more stuff, and rural Japan seems to be more easier to get into and an actual possibility, but man, I HATE big cities, but going full rural its actually scary even for a introvert like me, again thansk for the tips, lets see what happens from now on
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 10:45:17 AM No.2799689
>>2798763 (OP)
>I'll find a job abroad! I just need to give them a firm hand shake while looking them square in the eye and show them I am a Striaght White English speaking male!
>>2798809
>will unironically have an higher chance to success
Wrong, if OP isn't willing to even change cities for work, go to a staffing agency for applying to jobs, or the like. He's never going to make it as a fish out of water person abroad

The rest of your post can be done at home to get better working conditions hell, the midwest is in dire need of people.
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 10:54:39 AM No.2799692
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>>2799335
Give up, go work flipping burgers or looking for work at your CC. People like you or people who BS their resume are the reason I stopped helping friends and shit back home get jobs. It's all the same
>Have decent IT job making bank in USD
>constantly get job offers way too low in Japan so I would recommend them to friends like you "really smart" "have a degree" and "Oh dude I can work to make it I just need a chance amerikkka sux for jerbs"
>okay pass along resume to friend
>those that don't get laughed out and make it are dogshit
>show up drunk/hungover daily or late or just completely retarded with $excuse of being late
>job quality is low if not worse than not having no one at all
>all bitch about how boss telling them to do things is retarded yet not understanding that was the exact reason for being hired
>they know how to do it better but instead of just doing the work they suck at it
>all skills they put down on paper are actually lies and it shows quick
>can not into life/work balance often completely living in a pig pen called "home" that would make asmongold look like Mr. Monk
>all fired the day after their contract is up because how dogshit they are

I've helped at least 4 friends out with work before giving up and cutting out any more chances of burned bridges. If you can't get a BASIC job at home, which holy shit there are a lot of basic IT/Service/Office/trade jobs out there; you can not make it abroad. You'll just crash and burn more than if anything.