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Come discuss your Poland travel plans and experiences here.

The farmer's market in Szcztyno is busier than many shopping malls. It's good to see communities still engaging in traditional person-to-person commerce instead of allowing all business to slip into the greedy claws of monopolistic corporations. An overflowing pint of ripe raspberries cost 10 zloty ($2.75 USD). Eat all you can while the harvest lasts.

The housekeeper is not wearing pants, lol.

>>2801024
Too bad you're an incel she's not interested in, lol

Bad photo angle. She was hella cute and giggly with her friends in the next row back. IDK how men can go crazy over greedy Thai monkefaces when there are such fine-featured girls to be seen in any old Eastern European town.

$23 room in Bialystok, a rather desolate-looking city on the edge of Modern Europe. Beyond the frontier is a whole lot more bleak-looking towns with muddy parking lots and abandoned, forlorn properties - an endless stretch of dullness and sour faces extending all the way to the Pacific Ocean.

>>2800970 (OP)
American diaspora here who has only done Warsaw, Kraków, and Zakopane. Besides wanting to hit Gdańsk and Toruń on a stint up North, I’m also looking to squeeze in trips to both of my grandparents towns, any tips for:
1) Krotoszyn, do I do it with Poznań, Wrocław or both? Anything worth seeing on the way? Is Jasna Góra too much of a detour?
2) the villages outside Przeworsk. I wanna fly LOT’s oddball Newark-Rzeszów flight but not sure what else to string together to make a trip out of that or if I just pair it with another trip in the Tatras but away from all the Saudi tourists.

With the Polish zloty at a six-year high against the USD and Poland's economy skyrocketing in prosperity, leaving China in the dust (picrel), Poland isn't quite as affordable as I hoped. Nonetheless, wandering around Poland remains much cheaper than traveling through Middle America - with much better public transport and more lively, walkable city centers.
>Total spending for two weeks: 2383.6 PLN - $658 USD - $47 per day
>Lodging: 1402.4 PLN - $387 USD - $29.80 per day
>Food: 660.7 PLN - $182.50 USD - $13 per day
>Transport: 260.6 PLN - $72 USD - 70 km per day
>Beer: 35.6 PLN - $9.83 USD for nine 500 mL cans/bottles
>Misc: 24.3 PLN
Multivitamins are amazingly cheap here. Only $3.80 USD for 100 tablets, made in Germany. A 120 gram Camembert cheese roll can be had for about $1.20 USD. So good with the rustic yeasty buns. Like one anon was saying, you can buy low-grade kielbasy sausages for very cheap, $3 per kilo or less, but the decent kielbasy goes for $10 per kilo. Most supermarket offerings come in big packages, which makes it a real PITA if you only want to buy ingredients for a single meal.

I visited the bakery run by my distant relatives in Bialystok - we share the same last name. The ladies were curt as usual, and I didn't bother them with any personal questions. Too bad.

>>2801363
>with much better public transport and more lively, walkable city centers.
Yup I found it incredibly comfy. Thank goodness for Jakdojade. I myself am a total sperg and don’t like public transit too much but compared to places like Britain it wasn’t as terrifying and I grew to like it

>>2801323
>idk how men can go crazy over thai monkeys when PL has the sexiest women alive
I'll tell ya why pal, its because its a lot easier to bang the thai monkey than it is to bang the Silesian goddesses

>>2801449
What are you smoking bro? Yes, it easier, but it is also more rewarding, because thai women actually respect you and don't have this bitchy know-it-all attitude like 99% of Polish women do. You're vastly overrating Polish women, or you have never been to Asia. I left 3 years ago and i am never looking back, especially when it comes to the quality of women.

Are they letting dual Russian/American cross into Poland from Russia?

thank you for making a containment thread for the poland shills

Sokolka is such a dreary place. Stepped off an overbooked train into the rain thinking why on earth did I stop here? But it's all right for a final night in Poland. There's a weird attic guesthouse above a nice restaurant on a back street. The owner knew who I was as soon as I showed up at the door. He speaks Russian; Belarus is only a few kilometers away from here. The train to Lithuania is chronically sold out, so tomorrow I get off in Suwalki and board a Flixbus to Marijampole, Lithuania.

Two nights in Bialystok would've been good, despite it being a wide-open and rather dull place. People out here in Podlachian Voivoideship seem more friendly to a foreigner than other parts of Poland I've visited. Unfortunately, Suwalki had no bookable private rooms in my price range, even a full month in advance. My $40/night lodging budget definitely limited my choice of destinations here.

>>2801456
I was simply responding to the "omg why they lkke thai girl more" with a valid response
But im not realizing your question was one of those gay rhetorical questions that insecure weenies ask and it just makes you look dumb and angry for not everyone agreeing with your preference
Do you also tell everyone at the bar they should love your favorite beer too?

I've got the entire place to myself tonight. They gave me a key for the front door. Some young kids (brother and sister) playing on the puddly dirt road outside said dzien dobry to me and then asked something in Polish. I responded in English and they giggled but didn't understand. Even the market cashier was helpful when she realized I was a foreigner. Feels good to be treated like a special guest instead of an unwanted nuisance. Doesn't matter how cultured the surroundings are, if people suck then the place sucks. I'd rather be in Podunk Nowhere if that's where people appreciate me.

Suwalki Blues Festival this weekend. No wonder all the prices were jacked up.

>>2800970 (OP)
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literally no one cares

>>2801783
So why are you posting here?

The Flixbus breezed right across the Lithuania border, passing an extremely long queue of vehicles waiting to enter Poland. The crossing loses an hour, so it's gonna get light at 5:00 instead of 4:00 up here.

Marijampole could be a town in upstate New York or Indiana. The downtown has a 20:1 car to human ratio, more like America than Poland. Everything looks soullessly modern, though the three-point pedestrian overpasses above the busy traffic circles look cool. Outside the city center, dilapidation and neglect are noticeable, more so than in Poland. The new money hasn't trickled down to the villages yet.

Unlike Poland, LT is basically a cashless society. People are also more open, energized and willing to speak English here. Progress and development is a good thing. I expect the larger cities to be very gentrified, but hopefully they retain some unique Lithuanian character despite their newfound prosperity.

More care should've been put into choosing a route, instead of merely creating a daisy chain of towns with suitable lodging options that were accessible with PKP Intercity train service. The truth of the matter is, I don't feel like Europe is for me.
>scan your receipt to exit the store
Their perfectionist progressivism induces neuroses in the population that you don't find in Asia.

>>2801831
>>scan your receipt to exit the store
that's only in lidl, typical nazi german bullshit lol
like in a concentration camp
thankfully there are only 700 lidls, compared to 3,500 Biedronkas and 2,500 Dinos (fully Polish-owned chain)

>>2801828
>The downtown has a 20:1 car to human ratio, more like America than Poland. Everything looks soullessly
more like Russia or other post-Soviet countries you mean
check out picrel...

>>2801834
It's also a thing in Kaufland. Perhaps there is... some... pattern?
On a more serious note, Carrefour does that too for some reason. Infuriating fucking shit because I always put the receipt in the wallet by reflex and then have to pull it out again with a billion shopping bags already in hand.

>>2801843
have you noticed any old rusty soviet trolleybuses in Lithuania yet?
fun fact - Vilnius doesn't have trams, let alone a subway. LOL. with Soviet aid they stole Wilno from Poland & have fucked it over. sad

>>2801877
Not here in Kaunas, only new EU-funded trolleybuses. The farmer's market sellers are so much nicer than in Poland. They don't balk at reading from a translator app, they pick out the good strawberries for me when I ask for half a basket, and they show me the total on the calculator screen. I handed over a 20 euro bill and got 16 in change with none of the usual Polish eye-rolling and querelous remarks.

>>2801461
Evidently there is bus service between Kaliningrad and Poland.

https://expatkaliningrad.com/is-the-poland-kaliningrad-border-open-yes-but/

>>2802100
EU, UK, Ukrainian and Belorussian citizens can cross into Poland from Russia, according to a translation of the accompanying document. Not a word about Amerimutts, much less mutts with dual Russian citizenship.

https://www.strazgraniczna.pl/pl/cudzoziemcy/obowiazujace-ograniczenia/13495,EN-RUSSIA-RESTRICTIONS-AT-THE-BORDER.html

I loved seeing frowny straight faced poles see a man they know in the streets or at a busstop, and stop to shake each others hand but exchange no words or even crack a smile and then just go there own way
Any input on the origins of the whole soviet frowny serious face?is it simply because the USSR sucked so bad and everyones parents raised them to always have a serious face on?

>>2802108
Can you even enunciate Polish words with a smiley open facial expression? I don't think it's possible.

>>2802037
>>2801828
What are some cheaper and chill towns to spend a few days or a week in?

>>2802427
Is $55-60 USD per day cheap to you? That's about what I'm averaging in Lithuania for a barebones non-dormitory travel experience. Staying in the cheapest private rooms reservable online and located somewhat near the city center. Cooking cheap ingredients in cramped kitchens. Drinking a can of supermarket beer now and then. Mushrooms and berries from the farmer's market were my only splurge. The shared bathroom with its vile basket of asswipes smells horrible. When you are unable to patronize any local businesses due to budget constraints, you might as well wander around for a day or two, see the sights and then move on.

>>2802037
lithuania looks derelict. look at that asbestos, eww

>>2802461
>vile basket of asswipes smells horrible
WTF lithuanians don't flush the toilet paper? like in fucking India? is it some Soviet pipe legacy?

>>2802514
Sitting on the back porch of my 25€ guesthouse in Siauliai listening to the thunder rumble, drinking a 0.89€ can of German beer. This is gonna be a good storm, the rumbling is almost continuous. Forget the touristy historic centers. I like the ordinary mundane life more. Especially when I walk 1.5 km from the train station, check in and then complete my grocery shopping a few minutes before the clouds open up...

>>2802108
>Any input on the origins of the whole soviet frowny serious face?
We don't do fake smiles. When we smile you can be sure we mean it.

>>2802548
Doesn't a smile mean "You're a fucking joke to me" in Slavspeak?
I can deal with gruff men just fine, but a gruff woman is an ornery bitch, plain and simple.

>>2802461
Yeah. Im wondering about less popular towns though. Like usually less touristy towns are cheaper, so im wondering which ones are still enjoyable and chill, but cheaper
Ive mostly just been to wroclaw, which i enjoy, but im also wanting to find something cheaper or perhaps cooler
I could also just ask,cheap or expensive
>which towns seem to be the best?

>>2802548
Thanks pal, now tell us anything you know aboout the origin of this tradition!

>>2802553
Lodging is your biggest expense, so hunt around on the map until you find the nightly rate you want. I liked my room in Grudziadz, street view and en-suite bathroom for only 80 PLN per night.

European summer sunsets can make you daydream of possibilities which will never be realized in this big empty world.

>>2802640
you can tell that's lithuania by that asbestos!

>>2802640
>euro summer sunsets can make you daydream infinite possibilities
Thats what i need, actually the last time i was inspired to live greater and to want to self actualize i was at one of the clubs in Warsaw and somehow the music and vibe made me feel like pushing my limits and living a better life

8 euros at a food truck in Lithuania. It was good. But I like Poland's fresh fruit more. The cherries I got for 15-18 zl per kilo in Poland were miles better than the ones they sell for 6.50 euros a kilo up here. Also, the rooms I got for $30-35 USD in Poland were much better than those at that price point here.

Lithuania travels are complete. Overall, LT was disappointing compared to PL. Lithuania has a lot of sterile, recently renovated public spaces devoid of life - similar to those you find all across middle America.
>Six days' expenses: $318 USD or $53 per day
Somewhat higher than Poland, but not by much. Still slightly cheaper than my roadtrip in Baja California.
>Lodging: $208 USD, $35 per day
Disappointing accomodations. Cramped and poorly furnished. Perhaps due to the huge number of Ukrainian refugees living here, budget rooms are in short supply and overpriced as fuck. I was much more satisfied with my rooms in Poland.
>Food: $71, $11.80 per day
In Poland, I patronized kebab shops, bakeries and corner stores regularly. Here, I did most of my shopping at discount supermarkets, hence the slightly lower daily food spend. Poland definitely has cheaper and better food.
>Transport: $32
Slightly cheaper than Poland, but only because I failed to avail myself of the lower-priced regional rail services in Poland and always used PKP Intercity. Third class train travel in Lithuania meant cramming myself into a compartment with five other people, a dog and two adorable little girls on the three hour journey to Vilnius. People here hate a draft, so they always close windows even if it means rebreathing stuffy air smelling of dog dander.
>Beer: $7
About the same as Poland. No beer sales after 8 PM here, or after 3 PM on Sundays.

In short, Lithuania was more friendly, but not worth a second visit. Poland was more challenging, but it is definitely worth a revisit. Traveling in midsummer subjects you to obscene price-gouging from airlines. $850 USD for a one-way flight from Warsaw to JFK in mid July. Fucking ridiculous. A roundtrip in late August / early September with the same carrier is only $600.

Going to be passing through Poland for three days, never been before. Where should I go between Krakow, Gdansk or Warsawa?

>>2803294
Imagine being so void of personality you list no interests or hobbies and just act like a conssooooommah zombie who wants 'a spoonfed experience.

Fuck off to Berlin.

Forgot to mention, Vilnius is MUCH more Jewed than Warsaw or other places in Poland. Jewish community centers all over the map. Daily direct flights to Tel Aviv. Ukraine shilling everywhere you look. Not a fan. The park jam session was all right, however. Guitars swapping hands like hoes at a party. Aaand that's it for Europe.

>>2803294
Well, what are your interests? Warsaw is good for history and military museums

>>2803423
How many jeets were in Vilnius?

Picrel is what Americans return to after their Europe trip.
>Euro poor
Talk about an impoverished landscape. Where does all the American wealth go?
>>2803941
There was a lot of diversity in Vilnius, but still only 2% of the downtown crowds.

>>2804014
>Picrel is what Americans return to after their Europe trip.
Wow it looks like poland outside of warsaw... only slightly more spread out

Is this the end of slumbro?

>>2804015
Warsaw has sooo many more bike paths and public green spaces, plus more benches than just about any city in the world. The streets are full of PEOPLE, not cars. And there are small commercial areas scattered all over the city for easy access wherever you are. In America, infrastructure is bottom priority. Walkways are an afterthought. Even the road surfaces are so much more deteriorated than in Poland.

>>2804232
he clearly said outside of warsaw, retard

>>2804365
Same goes for the other towns in Poland.

Planning a roadtrip to Krakow soon. Will spend a two days there. Afterwards planning to take detour to Sanok to look at the works of Beksinski. We're mainly interested in architecture and artsy stuff, maybe some interesting historical places away from a beaten path and all that. Any suggestions?

>>2804392
he meant RIGHT OUTSIDE of warsaw, retard
as in suburbs

>>2804399
>We're mainly interested in architecture
>maybe some interesting historical places away from a beaten path
check out one of the only completed pieces of Nazi architecture near Krakow, Zamek w Przegorzałach/Schloss Wartenberg
https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zamek_w_Przegorzałach

>>2804599
As I told you, nigger. Poland is like that everywhere you go. The only time I had to walk for several kilometers along a big empty boulevard is when I hopped off at the wrong train station in Bialystok.

In America, everything is located on random plots of real estate with zero regard whatsoever for pedestrian convenience. The budget hotels near Denver Airport are located 3 km from the nearest airport rail station along a very inconvenient route which has to make right angles to get across the soulless gridded landscape. People honk at me because only nutcases trudge the sidewalks with their bags in muttland. In Poland, everyone walked off the train trundling a suitcase.

>>2804399
Sanok is a cool little town.
Beksinski defo do. Also check out the 'Skansen' which is like a model village of 'Lemko' culture (i.e. a Polish-Ukrainian race from the mountains who were btfo by Stalin). It's a decent day out and is pretty big. Also Poles don't give a fuck about you walking inside the house and just wandering around.

Nearby, there's the open museum of the history of the oil industry in Poland. Which, no lie, kinda started near Krosno (in the same region as Sanok). You can see the old oil wells, visit old tech, read about how some Polish guy discovered kerosene, etc. It's a fucking huge site. (Get there via a bus/taxi from Krosno, which is a couple of stops from Sanok).

These towns are near the Bieszczady region, which is the bit which sticks out in the southeast. It's beautiful as fuck down there, and is kinda 'real wilderness' in places, as lots of revolutionaries hung out down there, and Stalin wasn't a huge fan of that, so basically moved everybody out.

Nearby in the valleys there are spa towns like Rymanow-Zdroj and Iwanow-Zdroj which are really nice, and have some cool hikes neabry.

>>2804689
Also, "Beer Land" in Sanok is a proper local dive bar. Good times.

If you're into shithole bars, and want to go really off the beaten track, the bar near the station in Krosno - "BarMax" is hardcore mode. The locals seem to be trying to review spam it to 5/5 and encourage people to go on dates there, which is fucking lol.

I keep mentioning Krosno, as it's possible that you'll have to change trains/bus there, as it's kinda a regional subcapital, whereas Krosno is small.
There's alsoa big motorcycle speedway scene in Krosno, as well as an important glass factory.

Where to stay in Warsawa?

>>2804625
Done. Booked two nights there. "Your input is very important to us" but this time really

>>2804682
>In America, everything is located on random plots of real estate with zero regard whatsoever for pedestrian convenience. The budget hotels near Denver Airport are located 3 km from the nearest airport rail station along a very inconvenient route which has to make right angles to get across the soulless gridded landscape.
sounds awfully close to China