I'm curious, where do people who live in tropical paradise go for vacation?

>>2802322 (OP)
To somehwere snowy

>>2802322 (OP)
They hop in a canoe and paddle down to Polynesia with a load of green coconuts like their ancestors did.

>>2802322 (OP)
People who live in Hawaii seem to like California and Las Vegas. But people in a lot of tropical paradises are largely broke and just vacation locally.

>>2802322 (OP)
If western media hadn't conditioned you to consider sitting on a beach chair for 2 weeks in pic related to be the objective of living the life of a good little wagie, would you even consider it an appealing destination? Prior to the launch of the cruise ship industry in the '70s you cannot find any record of any white person saying the tropics are inherently 'paradise'. Early explorers thought the tropic climes was just kind of hot and shitty, nice spices and topless women though
I assume since junglefags are immune to such propaganda, they go places that are interesting to them on a personal level, not forced-meme cultural obsessions.

They don't. They are too poor.

>>2802340
>>2802344
Makes sense. Given the cost of living, I gotta imagine the wage slave harder than most states
>>2802341
Honestly l, the last time I was there, it was pretty underwhelming. When I went there for the first time as a kid it was a lot more exciting. It had some beautiful scenes, but most of it was either over developed tourist traps, or low income housing. The traffic was bad in most parts and we got flooded in twice. If I didn't have family there, I wouldn't feel inclined to go again.

>>2802341
Isn't that just literally all travel? OK yeah there's that ancient Greek guy who wrote about the 7 Ancient Wonders of the World, but like, the "7 Modern Wonders of the World", "7 Natural Wonders of the World", you've got to be kidding me.

Also the UNESCO list

A. They're too poor to travel.

B. They have no interest in travel.

C. They travel to places that are very different from where they live. It's no different from country bumpkins going out to explore the city, which is a very common trope in a lot of media.

>>2802341
Prior to the late-19th century people valued human industry
Now everybody lives in dense urban areas they crave 'nature', or at least what they perceive as 'more natural' than their usual environment. The popularity of heavily-deforested locales such as the Scottish Highlands or southern Scandinavia, with their carefully-managed deer populations and lack of major predators, is a good example of the draw of safe, manmade 'natural places'

>>2802479
>Prior to the late-19th century people valued human industry
LMAO hahah yeah dude just brush over the wide spread child labor as early as 5 sweeping chimneys, dealing unsanitary with everything from shit to baking bread, even more large scale slave usage etc.

Though because you have to flip burgers in an air conditioned safe place, can quit and go walk to another place and get a job in the same day, and even get possible unemployment to get food for yourself; it's so joever

>>2802539
I'm assuming you meant to respond to another comment, given that your bizarre post is totally irrelevant to what I said

>>2802341
>Prior to the launch of the cruise ship industry in the '70s you cannot find any record of any white person saying the tropics are inherently 'paradise
that's complete bullshit

my grandparents been to Réunion, Hawaii, Mexico and Jamaica in the late 50s / 60s
when the first international airport opened on the Seychelles in the 70s they went there with kids

and they went there for the beaches and "paradise" feeling

>Come to Jamaica campaign
was literally advertising this in the 60s
my grandparents even have posters form the travel agency at their home
>Acapulco ads
from that time also play heavily into the "beach" paradise

but you have to remember "paradise" was less connected to pristine (or manicured) nature on isolated islands
and more about the vibes, beaches and weather

>launch of the cruise ship
I'd argue the major factor were
>international airports
that opened everywhere in the 70s

>>2802341
>prior to the widespread use of air conditioning, tropical climates were hot and shitty
Fixed it

>>2802549
Came here to say that lol

>>2802341
Dumbass look at the earliest travelogues to Polynesia

>>2802322 (OP)

Snowy places. From what I see here in Thailand, the locals with the means to travel are obsessed with places like northern Japan during the winter. The richer ones would even go to Switzerland or Italy.

But on average, the GDP per capita in the tropics is really low, so I dunno man, maybe they just poke their head in the fridge then call it a day.

>>2802544
A lot of tourism to tropical destinations was driven by accessibility and post-war disposable income, but the modern conception of tourism as we know it is largely a phenomenon of American GIs returning home from deployment in Hawaii, Japan, France, and Germany. Paris in particular exploded as a tourist destination after the war.

in general:
1. poor: never leave their island ever
2. okay: domestic
3. good: nearby international visa free countries, if SEA then most likely Hong Kong for Disney Land or Taiwan because they can't secure a visa for Japan
4. vapid wagies: nearby countries with snow during winter only to take a picture with snow in the background, this is why you see ski resorts flocked by SEA niggers queuing up on the gondola with no ski/snowboards on in Japan, I fucking hate you motherfuckers specially in Zao but more in particular the fuckers who just grab skis/snowboards to take a picture with it without even asking the owner.
5. vapid trust fund babbies: places deemed to be "rich" or "cool" or "hip" or "iconic", places you see in movies places, think:
Golden Gate, Route 66 sign, Times Square, Statue of Liberty
Louvre, Eiffel Tower
Tokyo Tower, Sky Tree, Shibuya Crossing
As you can see, it's always to showoff. It's not because they want to travel. It's simply because they want a picture and claim "oh I'm so rich I have a picture with the Golden Gate bridge in the background" to their friends back home - they won't say this, but that's the messages they want to share.

Outside of immigrants, I have not once seen a tropical islander camping in a national park or actually spend a few days learning how to ski/snowboard, but this is understandable considering the following factors:
1. Not much time to travel. They can't afford to waste an entire day of just walking or several days of learning how to ski. Trees and dirt roads exist back home, so a picture of you somewhere in Yosemite won't scream "I'm rich" as opposed to one with Lombard Street in the background.
2. Not much resources for travel. Skiing is expensive, going to places which require a car is expensive.

>>2802322 (OP)
They will sometimes save up money to stay in a resort with all their family or go to a public beach if they are middle class but most of the poors go to a local river or to a “summer house” which is usually a an old family farm/shack in the countryside.
t. Half my friends are Carribean

>>2803065
>A lot of tourism to tropical destinations was driven by accessibility and post-war disposable income
that's the consequence not the reason
the reason was search for income after independence / post-colonial

>but the modern conception of tourism as we know it is largely a phenomenon of American GIs returning home from deployment
holy kek
the world doesn't revolve around murica
maybe true for Hawaii

lots of tourism towns in Europe are older than your country...
also my grandparents are German/French, so am I

people were traveling to tropical Island since the mass production of ocean liners
and tourism to islands like Reunion was kicked off by
>Jean-Baptiste Bory de Saint-Vincent
and "Voyage dans les quatre principales îles des mers d'Afrique"
which led to multiple more expeditions and in the late 19th century made Reunion a tourist destination

>Paris in particular exploded as a tourist destination after the war.
not really!?
it grew pretty constantly with European / global wealth increases
and US tourists are a minuscule part of Parisian tourists

your whole post really is one of the stupidest I've read in a while

>>2802341
Yeah tropical weather is awful 40C with 100% humidity, wet bulb climate and having to manually wipe off the sweat is so hecking comfy. Ideally best with sitting on a beach that will burn you to a crisp in about 10 minutes and sand that burns to walk on.

>>2802322 (OP)
lots of brazilians come to chile for the snow.

>>2802323
pretty much this. if you're an upper middle class tropical third worlder, the instagram flex is just wearing a big puffy parka in a cold-looking city. skiing is fine too but just hanging out and doing regular everyday stuff while dressed in 30 layers of arctic gear is the ultimate quiet luxury flex from their frame of reference

>>2803511
Pretty much the flex for middle class Brazilians is to take a pic skiing in Southern Argentina and/or Chile. But those that really have money go to Switzerland or Aspen, that's the upper-middle class or upper class flex.

>>2802341
Have sex.

Paradise ain't all it's made out to be. For people who live in the tropics, especially highly industrialized places, it's just normal life with high costs and beautiful scenery.

If you can't afford to travel you usually go to places to visit/stay with family (i.e. california, the Philippines)

If you can afford to travel, really anywhere that peaks your interest, just like people from anywhere else.

I personally enjoy big cities, Tokyo and New York are pretty fun.

>>2803541
>peaks your interest

>>2802322 (OP)
hey ive been there

>>2802322 (OP)
their backyard
that's the point

>>2802322 (OP)
instagram

vs

>>2804122
reality

>>2802341
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutiny_on_the_Bounty

>>2802341
I was thinking about this the other day when on the beach in Spain. Looking out at the sea and ignoring any modern ships or buildings that may be in your periphery, you're seeing the same view that people saw 500 years ago. Made me think if people thought of the beach in the same way back then as we do now. A place to go on holidays and relax

I'm not sure but it definitely goes back further than the 1970's at least. Off the top of my head, there was surfing culture in the 60's and even the UK had resort towns that were big in the early 20th century before international travel became more accessible

Movies from the 1930s presented Hawaii as an attractive place to visit, if you could afford the fare on an ocean liner. That might not have been the reality, but it was how it was viewed.
Other pacific islands were for adventurers, not tourists, though.

>>2803447
> lots of tourism towns in Europe are older than your country...
Hence “modern conception.” i.e. foreigner with disposable income arrives on international jetliner, spends 2 weeks in a hotel looking at tourist sites or at a resort.
> your whole post really is one of the stupidest I've read in a while
This would hurt more if you didn’t write like a Turkman larping as a European.

>>2804788
Where do adventurers go now? I feel like there's no such thing anymore. The omnipresent borderless internet via smartphones has killed the romance.