do people actually nomad visa run through Asia if they have a remote job or steady income from investments? e.g. Japan-Korea-Thailand-Philipines, 3 months each and repeat each year. From what I see rent and food is much more expensive in North America, but you could stay in hotels in Asia on tourist visa for less and pay less for food as well. Am I going crazy or is this something people actually do?

I think people do actually do this, but with remote jobs that pay well enough becoming harder and harder to find (needing to commit enough time to a company for them to trust you to work fully remote, having 5-10 experience in one of the industries that supports it, etc.) it seems like going full nomad like that is becoming a game exclusively for older folks to play. I want to do this, but without a job or a degree to find a remote one I would just be blowing through my savings. Maybe creative people have an easier time since they can upload to their youtube/patreon/whatever from basically anywhere, but even that market ia super saturated and takes years and a lot of luck to build a following in even at a very high skill level. I dunno, I've been mulling this over a lot lately as someone who wants to get the fuck out of america but only has like 100k in savings, I don't want to just fuck off to SEA and end up broke at 50 with no options.

>>2802389
Yep and there’s a YouTube who is exactly what you described his name is ScottyBear.

He tried to live in PH without adequate means and now he’s 50 something living in his car doing DoorDash and working some shit job waiting until 62 so he can get social security. Its unfathomable how much of a loser he is

>>2802359 (OP)
>Am I going crazy or is this something people actually do?
what is so crazy about it?
They have a job that can be performed wherever, so if they can do it in 1 asian country, they could do it in four.

Life is more than low rent and food though. that's why these types often come from a bad family.

I've done it since April 2022 myself w/a $300k remote job, but just got laid off. Now I'll switch to a day schedule in Asia and just do a career break. Might double down on health/wellness (walks, surfing, muay thai), finally do that Taiwan masters degree I was thinking about, or jump into language school.

I'm sort of over Asia in many ways at this point though. USA is large. you probably haven't checked out every lifestyle available, even just within your own state.

If you do it, I would advise my favorite times were when I stayed in place for many months or even over a year
>>2802412
>Yep and there’s a YouTube who is exactly what you described his name is ScottyBear.
if he didn't have a job, then he didn't try "this", which is having a job and rotating countries. that guy sounds like a retard lol. many such cases in Philippines.
>>2802389
>youtube/patreon/whatever from basically anywhere, but even that market ia super saturated and takes years and a lot of luck to build a following in even at a very high skill level
my brother was putting out $1000+ YouTube videos within 6 months of trying. If you're the right combination of good, lucky, whatever...it will not take years. he can seriously do 1-2 uploads per month and get a nice chunk of change. meanwhile dudes are out posting a daily video to make <= $150/month or $0.

>>2802474
>my brother was putting out $1000+ YouTube videos within 6 months of trying
what niche are his videos? just travel related stuff or something like tech or financial advice? it seems like everything is so oversaturated now, sticking out from the crowd of other newbies, indians, AI, and already established channels seems really difficult.

>>2802359 (OP)
>I going crazy or is this something people actually do?
It sounds crazy until you actively start doing it. The countries you listed are within ~3 hour flight from each other, so at most you are simply burning 1 day to fly to another country and get settled.

The hardest part I feel is something I know a few friends I made and a mistake myself I made at the start: overpacking. Once you solve for overpacking the lifestyle becomes much, much easier to manage. Get yourself a good laptop, a cell plan that works extended times abroad, a tablet for second screen/backup device, a good phone (or two) and focus on the hard to replace things. After that, the routine of going to find clothes, food shopping, weekends out, comes a lot easier.

> you could stay in hotels in Asia on tourist visa for less and pay less for food as well
Airbnb in Korea is 300-450/mo around Seoul if I don't mind a studio setup. 500-600 goes farther. Keep in mind most people doing this live and got jobs paying that of large US cities like LA, Phoenix, DFW, NYC, etc cost of living metrics. So telling people they can live for under 1k/mo for everything is appealing.

The hardest part coming now is just having an excuse to present and ensure that the people aren't dicks and ask about your work visa. Always have an itinerary lined up for that one asshole CBP person

>>2802359 (OP)
i've done it for about 2 years now. Definitely possible but... kind of makes you go insane. I feel like I have no permanent existance anywhere, no real friends or long-term home.

>>2802862
>Definitely possible but... kind of makes you go insane.
You need a hobby that isn't language focused. Been doing this well before covid.

AnytimeFitness is a good gym to be a part of because they are all over Aisa. Hiking is pretty good too, same with fishing. If you don't mind volunteer work there is tons of it around.

> I feel like I have no permanent existence anywhere, no real friends or long-term home.
This is mostly true, everyone I know who had a pet went insane without them. If you can't live in your home country solo, don't try abroad. Biggest thing that hits you while abroad at first is how all your friends are asleep while you're awake or vice versa.

I rotate through about 8 diff Asian countries. I have regular girls in each country. Mostly women in their late 30s to late 50s. I stay 1-3 months in each country . Sometimes I stay in hotels and sometimes I stay with the girls. I’m young, tall and fit, with a nice sized cock so I am always welcome. I love to fuck and they love to be fucked. I’ve been with 45 year old Asian women who have nicer bodies than most 20-30 something white hags back in my home town.

>>2802868
yeah. the thing is it's also hobby to sustain a regular hobby when you're constantly hopping countries. gotta keep finding a new gym, group, club, etc... not impossible it's just a pain in the ass and it's much easier to just sit at home on 4chan, or go to foreigner bars/girls bars.

>>2802875
This is the last thing I want to experience before I propose to a girl I've been with for a few years.

I've had my fair share of degeneracy, but I regret getting into my relationship before getting a taste of 40/50 yo Chinese women. Would've been good to dick down a few. You know the square dancing types who dress erotic, yet seem to have no cognizance about it. They do it for me.

My girl is aging well and will be one of these mature, skinny, beauties - it's just a matter of time.

Have you had luck persuading aunties that shy or new to being with foreigners? Being their first time would be special, you'd know you've navigated deep into their society if you accomplished that.

>>2802875
Have any called you THEIR xiao xin rou?
Do you get them to wear any lingerie?

>>2802883
>Gym
Anytimefitness, no need to even re-register at the countries
> group
Disboard for discord groups
>Club
kek you gotta be a real sorry mug to not have the street smarts to find some good bars

>>2802891
at this point i have to ask whether you've actually lived the lifestyle, or if you're just giving advice on "well this is what reddit suggests doing under the circumstances..." like you're not wrong, all of those things are possible, you're just missing the fundamental point that it's a pain in the ass to constantly change the country where I live.

>>2802587
>it seems like everything is so oversaturated now
not a reason not to do it. there is always space for someone better. youtubers get stale and audiences move on so if you want to do it don't let the amount of other people doing it deter you.

>>2802896
I do, It's really not hard.
>you're just missing the fundamental point that it's a pain in the ass to constantly change the country where I live.
If you think it's a "pain" to move every 30 to 90 days just lmao. I might be a bit biased as my previous job required travel, but anon like come on we are on a travel board.

Book 30/60/90 days in one place, go out with a schedule of things to do, which to me is the reason to travel and work abroad. Run through that list of things, work when I need to, gym when I can, meet people at the hobbies I enjoy and share line/discord/fb; move to the next. Like how fat are you that it's such a burden to move every few months? I travel with 1 backpack and 1 checked suitcase; everything I need is there and should be for most people who aren't on a CPAP or are a woman. Like do you not know how to pack or something?

If the idea of having to move every 30/60/90 days just go back home and get an apartment dude. This is a travel board with people who like the travel lifestyle, maybe it's just not for you? Reminds me of a few digitalnomads I ran into a while back who would barely leave their place of stay more than 2-3 times a week and just sit at home. WTF is the point of traveling then, just stay home retard.

>where I live.
You do not LIVE there you are a tourist on a short stay, you are visiting only.

>>2802885
>you'd know you've navigated deep into their society if you accomplished that.
lol, if your 6/10 or better you can have as many milfs in asia as you want without trying

>>2802359 (OP)
how is getting on a plane once every 3 months some abstract thought. why are you on a travel board if that's a mystic concept to you? Like oh no I have to spend 1 entire day leaving my Airbnb flying for 4 hours to Philippines from Korea and check in. the horror of leaving the room. kwan

This is what rich crazy fucks do.

>>2805314
>Reminds me of a few digitalnomads I ran into a while back who would barely leave their place of stay more than 2-3 times a week and just sit at home. WTF is the point of traveling then, just stay home retard.
I feel so bad because I have like agoraphobia or something and barely have any desire to go out and do stuff beyond training muay thai. I'm trying to do the digital nomad thing though and get it working before I run out of savings while I'm abroad. I feel like I should be doing more but I don't know how, since I never did it at home.

>>2802862

any tips anon? gonna be living out of SEA for the next year without a proper visa... any close calls at borders/airports? did you ever use a dummy ticket or onward ticket? I only booked a one way, so i'm thinking i'll need a dummy return ticket just to board the plane. Planning on spending most of my time in thailand, but also gonna do vietnam for a bit i think when i have to border run

>>2805498
Don't be a CHUD

>>2802359 (OP)
>>2802474
>>2802587
I do this and my salary is 2.5k month, fully remote.

It's doable if you're not completely retarded and if you know how to be somewhat frugal (doesn't even have to be that much).

I just came back to Indonesia from Korea where I was living relatively ''splurging'' (for my own personal taste) with about 1.3k month spent. Here in Indonesia I can spend far less - I still always managed to save at LEAST 1k per month from my job.

>>2805314
You can live in a place if you keep going back to it through visa runs (if that's possible in the country, which some are).

I did that for 8 months.

Also, you don't even need a gym you can just do calisthenics if you're not a slob and have a modicum of discipline. Save money you'd spend on a gym and you can exercise literally anywhere, best thing I've done was to start calisthenics and not have to rely on gyms.

>>2805573
any tips anon? gonna be living out of SEA for the next year without a proper visa... any close calls at borders/airports? did you ever use a dummy ticket or onward ticket? I only booked a one way, so i'm thinking i'll need a dummy return ticket just to board the plane. Planning on spending most of my time in thailand, but also gonna do vietnam for a bit i think when i have to border run.

whats your calisthenics routine? are you stayinging in apartments/hotels/hostels?

>>2805573
>You can live in a place if you keep going back to it through visa runs (if that's possible in the country, which some are).
Seems silly compared to events that happen in other countries, how easy it is to just go live in X compared to Y and so on.
>Also, you don't even need a gym you can just do calisthenics if you're not a slob and have a modicum of discipline
That's cute but I want a squat rack, machines, and proper free-weights. 25/mo is nothing in the grand scheme of things for proper workout, backup shower location, and place to meet people.

>>2805623
Nothing "cute" about it.
I used to squat 4 plate on the regular. Don't want any of that anymore.

With calisthenics I simply don't have to worry. Also where the fuck are you staying that you need a ''backup shower location''?

>Seems silly compared to events that happen in other countries, how easy it is to just go live in X compared to Y and so on.

IDK it seems like you just can't accept people want different things from you anon, stop being so anal. I wanted to stay for a prolonged time in X at that time, it was that, not even that uncommon. Mostly, I just hop to a different place every 60 days or so.

>>2805606
Not sure what you mean by ''close calls". I use a company that deals with everything visa run lately and I never had any problems with them (this only applies to Vietnam though).

For other countries I just stay out long enough so that I can go back.

Even though I called the other quoted anon anal, the 'tips' he gave are very solid and basically what I do and recommend

>try to travel on the lighter side
>stick to essentials and have backups of important things (2 smartphones/notebook)

Rest of the shit can be more or less arranged. I did have a ''dummy'' ticket for Vietnam when I first arrived but they didn't ask for any confirmation whatsoever when I landed in the country. I think it depends a lot based on appearance and whatnot, if you look like a retarded bum they might ask for it? I'm a guy from South America and never had problems.

>>2805644
https://lynnvisa.vn/

this is the company I mentioned

>>2805644
>I used to squat 4 plate on the regular. Don't want any of that anymore.
Wow 4 plate squat... alright.... Not sure if this is trying to be a flex
>With calisthenics I simply don't have to worry
Fat cope this is the "yeah I still got it" boomer mind set I've seen a lot of my friends pull after covid despite them clearly becoming fatter and more out of shape. They just constantly cope about how they don't look like the average mutt so it's okay.
> Also where the fuck are you staying that you need a ''backup shower location''?
A few places in Asia, I've had water be out after earthquakes or typhoons so taking a train across town for a shower was needed due to utility issues. Also, sometimes hikes or a long day out, an AF is closer than my apartment or hotel so dipping in for a shower is easy. If I am out and about for 12 hours in summer Asia heat and humidity, the day or evening can be saved by just a quick shower without running all the way back to my place.
>IDK it seems like you just can't accept people want different things from you anon
You literally started this conversation by calling others who hop around every few month's life style a giant pain in the ass, now you want to flip the script? fuckin lmao

Guess I struck a nerve of truth in some part of my post.

>>2805657
>Fat cope this is the "yeah I still got it" boomer mind set I've seen a lot of my friends pull after covid despite them clearly becoming fatter and more out of shape. They just constantly cope about how they don't look like the average mutt so it's okay.

I'm not your Americans friends.
Actually I don't think I've even ever met any American who knew what calisthenics was, funnily enough, lol. I stand at 1,82 and 73kg, more of a skinnylet if anything.

You're also coping if you think a 4 plate squat is anywhere near what 90% of men in this planet will ever achieve, specially at commercial gyms like the ones you seem to imply training at. So yes, for me it was quite the achievement since I achieved that at a weight around 83kg of bodyweight at the time, considering I'm just a guy who liked lifting and not a professional.

>You literally started this conversation by calling others who hop around every few month's life style a giant pain in the ass

Nope, you're incapable of recognizing the people posting in the thread man. You're literally confusing me with the guy who said that, please stop being a retarded low iq nigger, go back to redit or w/e you came from if you can't even fathom who is who in the thread man, jfc.

>>2805669
for reference I am >>2805572
and that was my 1st post in this thread

>>2805623
>machines
btw just realized, you're the fatso projecting here, kek

imagine literally using ''machines'' and trying to tell someone they're fat, gtfo here nigger

>>2805573
>Save money you'd spend on a gym and you can exercise literally anywhere, best thing I've done was to start calisthenics and not have to rely on gyms.
You know most gyms are 20-30 dollars a month, how poor are you that that's tightening the belt each month for?

>>2805669
>73kg
>calisthenics
That's, not exactly great there anon. Sure it will keep the excess fat out and help you remain flexible, but 73kg isn't all that much to work with. You do you anon, it really does seem like you're the one here incapable of following the conversation.

>>2805670
>>2805671
Oh damn talk about Mr. insecure here anon did hit a nerve with you. You know picrel is a "machine" right? People who diss machines I always have to do a double take with on gym advice because people who've regularly worked out know that you use the right tool for the job. No one is saying you should only use the smith machines at the gym, but they are effective for what they do. For someone who's self-proclaimed 'skinnylet' it's obvious you doing any functional strength training so machines would be perfect for you.

>You're literally confusing me with the guy who said that, please stop being a retarded low iq nigger, go back to redit or w/e you came from if you can't even fathom who is who in the thread man, jfc.
Anon look at the replies that was being followed by said anon, maybe learn to quote the exact points otherwise people are going to assume you are following the last reply chain. Reddit is the other place for people like you.

For all your talk of "anon you should understand how others choose to live" you seem to get heavily defensive when someone brings up something that doesn't align with (you)r'e way of doing things.

>>2805674
>You know most gyms are 20-30 dollars a month, how poor are you that that's tightening the belt each month for?
are you retarded? a muay thai gym in chiang mai is like $500 a month now. thailand prices arent the same as 5-10 years ago nigger

>>2805701
Anon the only real gym's that have even been posted ITT was anytimefitness which I see as 49.99/mo here in the states but gives full worldwide access. If you're doing some mauy thai shit you know the cost associated with it being completely unique compared to a traditional gym like anytimefitness, 24/7 fitness, Golds, etc.

I use it through my companies insurance which gives it to me 19.99/mo, so pick your poison. On topic here, it really depends on your lifestyle. For me moving from country to country is part of the fun, I usually do a 45to60-day stint in each place before cycling through depending on the weather. Staying in one place for years on end would bore me to death, I would have just spent time to cert up and get a local IT job for some company that works with the US if I wanted to get up and fully relocate.

At most it's 2 days lost every 2 months, big deal. It's a good change of scenery, lifestyle, and events; and while there isn't a 'right way' to live abroad it sure as hell makes it more exciting.

>>2805669
So wait, you went from 4pl squats to now being proud to calisthenics to stay in shape. This exactly falls into the realm of what I was talkin about in terms of you letting yourself go, congrats on being a manlet at 160lbs. I have no clue where you live but if you can't see the insane usefulness of an aircon'd place in Asia for heat/humidity or rainy days or just shit air quality days. I have no idea what you are on about. There is a legitimate reason many SEA athletes relocate for training in preparation for the Olympics.
>Nope, you're incapable of recognizing the people posting in the thread man.
The OP is literally about visa hopping my dude, what ESL country are you from that you can't follow OP's request for how people manage visa hopping. I said it's not a big deal, it's inconvenient here and there but not a deal breaker unless you are actually fat and retarded.
>go back to redit or w/e you came from if you can't even fathom who is who in the thread man, jfc.
Classy coming from the guy who's throwing a shitfit when OP is specifically asking about visa hopping between countries and you're over here complaining like a Karen that getting on a plane for 2 hours is like a life and death thing