Anonymous
7/16/2025, 1:41:07 AM No.2802975
Retarded, or based new /trv/ destination?
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 2:33:07 AM No.2802984
This thing isn't ever getting build.
The concept is retarded. Vertical city doesn't make sense, just make it a circle.
The concept is retarded. Vertical city doesn't make sense, just make it a circle.
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 2:55:24 AM No.2802990
>>2802984
What benefits would a circle have over a line in this specific location?
Think:
>water
>views
>property values
>transport (even the 'circle line' in London isn't run as a circle)
It's already being built. You can see on Google Maps. They've even got 2 cricket stadiums there for workers, kek.
What benefits would a circle have over a line in this specific location?
Think:
>water
>views
>property values
>transport (even the 'circle line' in London isn't run as a circle)
It's already being built. You can see on Google Maps. They've even got 2 cricket stadiums there for workers, kek.
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 3:24:51 AM No.2802994
>>2802975 (OP)
How would you get to this giant mall in the middle of the desert?
How would you get to this giant mall in the middle of the desert?
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 5:59:24 AM No.2803026
>>2802975 (OP)
its an embezzlement scheme, it's not actually going to be a real thing except maybe a hotel on the coast that will be shut in a few years.
>>2802990
construction is happening, that doesn't mean its actually being built
its an embezzlement scheme, it's not actually going to be a real thing except maybe a hotel on the coast that will be shut in a few years.
>>2802990
construction is happening, that doesn't mean its actually being built
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 6:20:25 PM No.2803202
>>2803026
No it is real. MbS is a retarded millennial with infinite cash and believes 100% in climate change hoax and peak oils scams. He also likes the attention he gets as a warrior for climate change. He is 100% invested in creating a “sustainable” post-oil economy for Saudi Arabia. The problem is that oil is a renewable mineral. Not a fossil fuels it is created in the planets core and moves toward the surface due the the centrifugal force of the planet’s rotation.
Thousands of Texas oil wells that were dried out in the 70s have been uncapped and tested to be productive again
No it is real. MbS is a retarded millennial with infinite cash and believes 100% in climate change hoax and peak oils scams. He also likes the attention he gets as a warrior for climate change. He is 100% invested in creating a “sustainable” post-oil economy for Saudi Arabia. The problem is that oil is a renewable mineral. Not a fossil fuels it is created in the planets core and moves toward the surface due the the centrifugal force of the planet’s rotation.
Thousands of Texas oil wells that were dried out in the 70s have been uncapped and tested to be productive again
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 6:44:58 PM No.2803212
>>2803202
I've met various Saudis, not many, but some are great, and I'm glad they don't have a leader that's a dipshit like you.
I've met various Saudis, not many, but some are great, and I'm glad they don't have a leader that's a dipshit like you.
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 7:40:45 PM No.2803227
>>2803202
Last I heard, the official line was that drilling tech got better, now we're supposed to buy that it just forms in the earth's core? Fossil fuel shills are insane
Last I heard, the official line was that drilling tech got better, now we're supposed to buy that it just forms in the earth's core? Fossil fuel shills are insane
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 8:10:46 PM No.2803234
>>2802975 (OP)
Saudi is desperately trying to replicate dubai when dubai already exists. All that money will be going down the drain.
Saudi is desperately trying to replicate dubai when dubai already exists. All that money will be going down the drain.
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 8:51:28 PM No.2803240
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 8:55:56 PM No.2803241
I enjoy Saudi retardation, there's unironically sure to be a lot of innovation and research that will come from trying to solve needless problems for the engineers just by how stupid this concept is. Arabs have the faustian spirit cucked whites lost after WW2.
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 9:49:46 PM No.2803250
>>2803026
Many of the hotels along the coast are already built or are near completion. That's a whole other aspect of the bigger vision.
Honestly, look at the scale of the workers' facilities on google maps. You DO know where the project is being built right?
>construction is happening, that doesn't mean its actually being built
>construction doesn't mean something is being built
Many of the hotels along the coast are already built or are near completion. That's a whole other aspect of the bigger vision.
Honestly, look at the scale of the workers' facilities on google maps. You DO know where the project is being built right?
>construction is happening, that doesn't mean its actually being built
>construction doesn't mean something is being built
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 1:55:22 AM No.2803318
>>2803240
it's "fossil" because it's dead shit from a gorillion years ago, nobody except kids thinks the distinction between a literal tyrannosaurus and just some old underwater kelp forest is important for purposes of discussing how long the shit is going to be able to serve as a useful natural resource for humans to do whatever they want with
it's "fossil" because it's dead shit from a gorillion years ago, nobody except kids thinks the distinction between a literal tyrannosaurus and just some old underwater kelp forest is important for purposes of discussing how long the shit is going to be able to serve as a useful natural resource for humans to do whatever they want with
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 9:00:49 AM No.2803408
>>2802975 (OP)
You're evaluating the place as a destination. Most places are worth visiting at least once. Nothing wrong with one-and-done deals. Actually trying to live there long-term would be retarded.
You're evaluating the place as a destination. Most places are worth visiting at least once. Nothing wrong with one-and-done deals. Actually trying to live there long-term would be retarded.
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 9:29:16 AM No.2803413
>>2803250
You're retarded and/or a shill.
You're retarded and/or a shill.
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 9:36:50 AM No.2803415
>>2803250
>construction doesn't mean something is being built
Happens all the time, especially in whatever third world shithole you are posting from.
There are endless scam construction projects in the world with no intention of ever being completed. The thirdie shithole I am visiting now the Philippines is particularly infamous for "investment" property scamming where they sell people plots of swamp land and say they are building retirement homes there and they do indeed start construction and build a bunch of garbage that is uninhabitable, but looks like something from birds eye view. There may be one or two properly constructed condos which they show off to prospective buyers, but then do scam construction to string investors along for years.
Then the guys behind it vanish off to China or a new identity when the jig is up.
Middle East style megaconstruction embezzlement is something else. Rich corrupt individuals run the construction through their company and take 50% or more of the costs and offshore it. They make it look legit with massive amounts of Indians and heavy machinery rentals, and do indeed create something passable in one spot to trick inspectors/investors.
There are enormous uncompleted abandoned megaprojects all over the gulf States. Nothing quite as belligerent as "the line" scam will be.
When the scope of the project is finally officially shrunk by 95% and "the line" becomes little more than a dumb little gimmick on the coast that will lose money forever, it will be revealed that untold hundreds of millions of dollars worth of labor, equipment, supplies are unaccounted for.
That's just how it works.
>construction doesn't mean something is being built
Happens all the time, especially in whatever third world shithole you are posting from.
There are endless scam construction projects in the world with no intention of ever being completed. The thirdie shithole I am visiting now the Philippines is particularly infamous for "investment" property scamming where they sell people plots of swamp land and say they are building retirement homes there and they do indeed start construction and build a bunch of garbage that is uninhabitable, but looks like something from birds eye view. There may be one or two properly constructed condos which they show off to prospective buyers, but then do scam construction to string investors along for years.
Then the guys behind it vanish off to China or a new identity when the jig is up.
Middle East style megaconstruction embezzlement is something else. Rich corrupt individuals run the construction through their company and take 50% or more of the costs and offshore it. They make it look legit with massive amounts of Indians and heavy machinery rentals, and do indeed create something passable in one spot to trick inspectors/investors.
There are enormous uncompleted abandoned megaprojects all over the gulf States. Nothing quite as belligerent as "the line" scam will be.
When the scope of the project is finally officially shrunk by 95% and "the line" becomes little more than a dumb little gimmick on the coast that will lose money forever, it will be revealed that untold hundreds of millions of dollars worth of labor, equipment, supplies are unaccounted for.
That's just how it works.
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 9:38:57 AM No.2803416
>>2802984
They are literally building it right now.
No way it's ever as big as originally designed but still will happen, the money, plant and workers are all going 24/7 with hundreds of billions of funding.
I love how much it makes urban planning retards seethe too, hope they make something amazing just to spite all these redditor.
They are literally building it right now.
No way it's ever as big as originally designed but still will happen, the money, plant and workers are all going 24/7 with hundreds of billions of funding.
I love how much it makes urban planning retards seethe too, hope they make something amazing just to spite all these redditor.
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 9:51:36 AM No.2803418
>>2803416
nobody is falling for this shit, you retarded brown vermin
nobody is falling for this shit, you retarded brown vermin
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 10:05:52 AM No.2803420
let me explain what is going on
right now, the gulf oil states are in a crisis
they know they cannot possibly sustain oil wealth forever, or possibly even a couple more decades
therefore, they are trying desperately to shift their economy to a real estate bubble system, similar to china
they are using their currently infinite money hack to build shit, to build anything and move giganigga amounts of money around to create the appearance of healthy GDP growth and an appearance of an expanding real estate market and prosperity
they can't do anything else
- they cannot manufacture things, as arabs refuse to work and manufacturing in gulf states is expensive due to temperatures/logistics
- they have no natural resources besides oil, there is nothing for them to extract harvest or exploit
- they have a bad climate, with temperatures reaching literally 40c outside for about 6 months out of the year
- they have limited agriculture, nothing except dates can be grown outside, and megafarming in a desert requires hydoponics/advanced technology, which makes it too expensive to expert
the only (only) thing they can do to diversify is create an artificial real estate bubble and then invite foreign wealth in to invest in that bubble, loot foreign investors, and then when the bubble collapses, kick the foreigners out and nationalize whatever they built while they were there, and pray to their moon god that the amount of wealth they were able to embezzle/steal during the bubble can sustain them long enough to come up with another scheme, or try the same scheme again on a new generation
right now, the gulf oil states are in a crisis
they know they cannot possibly sustain oil wealth forever, or possibly even a couple more decades
therefore, they are trying desperately to shift their economy to a real estate bubble system, similar to china
they are using their currently infinite money hack to build shit, to build anything and move giganigga amounts of money around to create the appearance of healthy GDP growth and an appearance of an expanding real estate market and prosperity
they can't do anything else
- they cannot manufacture things, as arabs refuse to work and manufacturing in gulf states is expensive due to temperatures/logistics
- they have no natural resources besides oil, there is nothing for them to extract harvest or exploit
- they have a bad climate, with temperatures reaching literally 40c outside for about 6 months out of the year
- they have limited agriculture, nothing except dates can be grown outside, and megafarming in a desert requires hydoponics/advanced technology, which makes it too expensive to expert
the only (only) thing they can do to diversify is create an artificial real estate bubble and then invite foreign wealth in to invest in that bubble, loot foreign investors, and then when the bubble collapses, kick the foreigners out and nationalize whatever they built while they were there, and pray to their moon god that the amount of wealth they were able to embezzle/steal during the bubble can sustain them long enough to come up with another scheme, or try the same scheme again on a new generation
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 10:13:50 AM No.2803424
now does this mean things will be built correctly and in good faith?
sometimes
but arabs (everyone, but especially arabs) are insanely corrupt and greedy beyond belief or reason
every level of government, construction approval process, sourcing materials, labor, everything is insanely corrupt and fucked
embezzlement is rife at every level of the process, because the process itself is started by people who intend to embezzle, and everyone all the way down the chain knows it, so they are getting their cut
reducing corruption in a fractured principality system the gulf states engage in is incredibly difficult, only a central government that executes corrupt people can reign it in
there is little to no accountability in the gulf states, when it comes to embezzlement or corruption, because the whole process is usually pre-arranged by the parties involved from the very beginning
you CANNOT get your money back from arabs after you have put it into their country, all you can do is sell to another bigger fool, and this is by design
so what does this mean?
it means that there are tons of ultra-wealthy little faggots all trying to squirrel away their misbegotten oil money in real estate / shopping / hospitality all at the same time, creating the appearance of a boom - but there will be nobody to use, visit, shop in, or stay in the things they are creating WHILE simultaneously stealing half the cost of constructing those things and hiding it offshore
the detonation of this "system" is going to be apocalyptic, and if you are in your 20's or 30's you will see it in your lifetime
sometimes
but arabs (everyone, but especially arabs) are insanely corrupt and greedy beyond belief or reason
every level of government, construction approval process, sourcing materials, labor, everything is insanely corrupt and fucked
embezzlement is rife at every level of the process, because the process itself is started by people who intend to embezzle, and everyone all the way down the chain knows it, so they are getting their cut
reducing corruption in a fractured principality system the gulf states engage in is incredibly difficult, only a central government that executes corrupt people can reign it in
there is little to no accountability in the gulf states, when it comes to embezzlement or corruption, because the whole process is usually pre-arranged by the parties involved from the very beginning
you CANNOT get your money back from arabs after you have put it into their country, all you can do is sell to another bigger fool, and this is by design
so what does this mean?
it means that there are tons of ultra-wealthy little faggots all trying to squirrel away their misbegotten oil money in real estate / shopping / hospitality all at the same time, creating the appearance of a boom - but there will be nobody to use, visit, shop in, or stay in the things they are creating WHILE simultaneously stealing half the cost of constructing those things and hiding it offshore
the detonation of this "system" is going to be apocalyptic, and if you are in your 20's or 30's you will see it in your lifetime
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 10:22:49 AM No.2803425
you can think of these projects very much like crypto shitcoins
you have the core group of scammers who are going to launch it and know when they are going to rugpull and exit, they have a plan and are going to execute it, but they need people to sell it and hype it and work on it. this layer includes the venture capital or criminals providing their seed money for startup.
that means an outer layer of paid shills/developers who are in on it and rewarded with a share of the wealth, and know to exit soon, but not exactly how soon, it is in their interest to create the appearance of legitimacy because the more legit it looks the more their reward grows allowing them to exit in profit
outside this layer are marks, people they are targeting for investment/participation, who get roped in thinking its a legit thing, or degenerate gamblers who know its going to be rugged but think they can get in and get out in profit
the final layer of the scam are the innocent bystanders who are offered an opportunity to invest their chump change, when it comes to real estate this manifests as time-shares / shared ownership schemes for rotten projects
FYI ultra-luxury apartment tenancy is at an all time low in places like dubai, with only 25% ish (probably less) of luxury apartments or condos being rented out. There are huge buildings full of unoccupied super expensive apartments owned by speculators. You can be staying in a place and have the entire floor to yourself, with every other apartment being totally empty and not even being up for rent. They think the price will go up in the future and they can sell it later.
But its not going to, because nobody actually wants to live in 40c dusty shithole surrounded by indian slaves and fat retarded arabs.
The jig is up already, but like a monumental zombie, it keeps shambling forward fueled by oil money and desperation.
you have the core group of scammers who are going to launch it and know when they are going to rugpull and exit, they have a plan and are going to execute it, but they need people to sell it and hype it and work on it. this layer includes the venture capital or criminals providing their seed money for startup.
that means an outer layer of paid shills/developers who are in on it and rewarded with a share of the wealth, and know to exit soon, but not exactly how soon, it is in their interest to create the appearance of legitimacy because the more legit it looks the more their reward grows allowing them to exit in profit
outside this layer are marks, people they are targeting for investment/participation, who get roped in thinking its a legit thing, or degenerate gamblers who know its going to be rugged but think they can get in and get out in profit
the final layer of the scam are the innocent bystanders who are offered an opportunity to invest their chump change, when it comes to real estate this manifests as time-shares / shared ownership schemes for rotten projects
FYI ultra-luxury apartment tenancy is at an all time low in places like dubai, with only 25% ish (probably less) of luxury apartments or condos being rented out. There are huge buildings full of unoccupied super expensive apartments owned by speculators. You can be staying in a place and have the entire floor to yourself, with every other apartment being totally empty and not even being up for rent. They think the price will go up in the future and they can sell it later.
But its not going to, because nobody actually wants to live in 40c dusty shithole surrounded by indian slaves and fat retarded arabs.
The jig is up already, but like a monumental zombie, it keeps shambling forward fueled by oil money and desperation.
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 10:34:21 AM No.2803427
>>2803424
See, I think everything you said is right, but the global housing market has not yet crashed. so obviously some flaw exists in the logic that you and I posit in how we perceive the global real estate supply.
See, I think everything you said is right, but the global housing market has not yet crashed. so obviously some flaw exists in the logic that you and I posit in how we perceive the global real estate supply.
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 10:38:28 AM No.2803429
and its getting hotter, and hotter, and drier, and drier
its literally hell on earth
you will die if you can't get underground or into air conditioning, you set foot outside in mid day and your body instantly goes into crisis mode, alerting you to the fact that you will pass out and die from heat stroke if you remain outdoors
real, actual deadly conditions
its an actual alien planet landscape not habitable for humans, and right now we are seeing if infinite oil money is enough to make it sustainably livable somehow (it isn't)
you can't even build solar because it gets obliterated by dust storms and the cost of maintaining the equipment is larger than what you can sell the electricity for
tl;dr you're going to see some shit when it finally gets hot enough for the power grind to fail and the AC turns off, the first heat-induced mass casualty event involving 10,000+ people dying in a single day
its literally hell on earth
you will die if you can't get underground or into air conditioning, you set foot outside in mid day and your body instantly goes into crisis mode, alerting you to the fact that you will pass out and die from heat stroke if you remain outdoors
real, actual deadly conditions
its an actual alien planet landscape not habitable for humans, and right now we are seeing if infinite oil money is enough to make it sustainably livable somehow (it isn't)
you can't even build solar because it gets obliterated by dust storms and the cost of maintaining the equipment is larger than what you can sell the electricity for
tl;dr you're going to see some shit when it finally gets hot enough for the power grind to fail and the AC turns off, the first heat-induced mass casualty event involving 10,000+ people dying in a single day
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 10:46:12 AM No.2803431
there is going to be a 55c heat wave one month in the gulf and 100,000 indian paki and bangladeshi laborers will roast to death in their bunks in the span of a couple days
this will be the catalyst for the detonation of the gulf housing/real estate market, as it becomes obviously radioactive for all foreign investment for the next 100 years
this will be the catalyst for the detonation of the gulf housing/real estate market, as it becomes obviously radioactive for all foreign investment for the next 100 years
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 11:53:31 AM No.2803446
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 5:45:14 PM No.2803499
>>2803420
China already popped the real estate bubble and Xi passed laws saying "housing are for living, not speculation".
Second, the gulf countries are already diversified. Who owns Uber, your tech companies, F1, UFC, Golf, esports, and a fuck ton of other companies and industries? It's all funded by Saudi money lol
I hope the Line gets built. I just wanna see people lose their fucking minds :)
China already popped the real estate bubble and Xi passed laws saying "housing are for living, not speculation".
Second, the gulf countries are already diversified. Who owns Uber, your tech companies, F1, UFC, Golf, esports, and a fuck ton of other companies and industries? It's all funded by Saudi money lol
I hope the Line gets built. I just wanna see people lose their fucking minds :)
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Anonymous
7/17/2025, 5:51:57 PM No.2803500
>>2803420
The kike is afraid.
The kike is afraid.
Anonymous
7/17/2025, 6:05:45 PM No.2803503
>>2803452
>rich people visit their le second home in the winter instead of summer?
I AM GOING INSANEEE
>rich people visit their le second home in the winter instead of summer?
I AM GOING INSANEEE
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 5:35:54 AM No.2803595
>>2803580
Looks like Saudis bought Pokémon Go for a few billion dollars as well.
Looks like Saudis bought Pokémon Go for a few billion dollars as well.
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 6:49:18 AM No.2803612
>>2803499
What does China passing laws in China have to do with a real estate bubble on the gulf you fucking brown retard?
Every time I come on this site I am blown away by the sheer idiocy and belligerence of the subhumans who pipe up to try and contradict literally anything I say.
What does China passing laws in China have to do with a real estate bubble on the gulf you fucking brown retard?
Every time I come on this site I am blown away by the sheer idiocy and belligerence of the subhumans who pipe up to try and contradict literally anything I say.
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 7:05:58 PM No.2803709
>>2803612
The OP I was responding to was saying the gulf was trying to transition to a Chinese like real estate economy. I said that China is no longer a real estate economy due to changed laws.
I'm sorry to hear about your poor reading comprehension... Every time I come on this site I am blown away by the sheer idiocy and belligerence of the subhumans who pipe up to try and contradict literally anything I say. :^)
The OP I was responding to was saying the gulf was trying to transition to a Chinese like real estate economy. I said that China is no longer a real estate economy due to changed laws.
I'm sorry to hear about your poor reading comprehension... Every time I come on this site I am blown away by the sheer idiocy and belligerence of the subhumans who pipe up to try and contradict literally anything I say. :^)
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 8:41:31 PM No.2803730
>>2802975 (OP)
The same people ITT talking shit are the same NPC loser redneck hicks and blue haired troons that get excited over Buckeye's, a fucking gas station. No one in the US has the vision or ingenuity to build such modern day marvels anymore, so shut the fuck up and consume more of your shit-tier slop consoomer products.
The same people ITT talking shit are the same NPC loser redneck hicks and blue haired troons that get excited over Buckeye's, a fucking gas station. No one in the US has the vision or ingenuity to build such modern day marvels anymore, so shut the fuck up and consume more of your shit-tier slop consoomer products.
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 9:08:22 PM No.2803738
>>2803730
What's crazy is how trashy and corporate most shopping malls in the US are. They use the cheapest materials and it looks like hell. In Dubai I felt like they really gave a fuck about interior design. Everything was nice to look at and it didn't feel like I was in a gray tiled butchering farmhouse like most American malls. If you know, you know.
Americans don't know how much of goy cattles they are lol. Keep slurping down that corn syrup lmao
What's crazy is how trashy and corporate most shopping malls in the US are. They use the cheapest materials and it looks like hell. In Dubai I felt like they really gave a fuck about interior design. Everything was nice to look at and it didn't feel like I was in a gray tiled butchering farmhouse like most American malls. If you know, you know.
Americans don't know how much of goy cattles they are lol. Keep slurping down that corn syrup lmao
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 2:00:22 AM No.2803795
>>2803793
When a mall contains the one of the largest aquariums in the world... people will visit the mall. Like I said, Americans are getting fleeced with absolutely poor experiences.
When a mall contains the one of the largest aquariums in the world... people will visit the mall. Like I said, Americans are getting fleeced with absolutely poor experiences.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 2:38:37 AM No.2803799
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 2:41:05 AM No.2803800
>>2803429
Well maybe this is a good reason to build an indoor city which will be based on an artificial river?
>b-b-b-but what if the nuke plants fail and the desal fails
Same as what happened to Spain the other week, I guess
IF Saudi have cracked the brine problem and will use salt in concrete creation and battery storage, they're going to be fine.
Well maybe this is a good reason to build an indoor city which will be based on an artificial river?
>b-b-b-but what if the nuke plants fail and the desal fails
Same as what happened to Spain the other week, I guess
IF Saudi have cracked the brine problem and will use salt in concrete creation and battery storage, they're going to be fine.
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 2:48:41 AM No.2803803
>>2803795
If our country was ran by Exxon Mobil it would be a lot better.
If our country was ran by Exxon Mobil it would be a lot better.
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 3:25:58 AM No.2803826
>>2803795
Malls are awful. I'd rather go see the fish without the mall.
Malls are awful. I'd rather go see the fish without the mall.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 3:53:28 AM No.2803834
>>2803826
You've never been to a Dubai mall. They have a fucking aquarium, an Olympics sized ice hockey rink, 50,000 imax theaters, literal free concerts, and free water shows. Go skydiving a few miles away, jetski, a million other things to do.
Not saying just to travel there for it, but it's nice to see places go all out. Just fucking depressing shopping in the USA.
You've never been to a Dubai mall. They have a fucking aquarium, an Olympics sized ice hockey rink, 50,000 imax theaters, literal free concerts, and free water shows. Go skydiving a few miles away, jetski, a million other things to do.
Not saying just to travel there for it, but it's nice to see places go all out. Just fucking depressing shopping in the USA.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 4:05:55 AM No.2803837
>>2803416
yeah, first thing they installed is the money laundry
yeah, first thing they installed is the money laundry
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 4:16:48 AM No.2803841
>>2803834
Yeah, but why make it so that you have to go to the mall for those things?
Yeah, but why make it so that you have to go to the mall for those things?
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 4:41:02 AM No.2803848
>>2803841
Dubai is very hot and humid. A lot of activities rely on being indoors to stay cool. Since they're inside a lot, they put a lot of effort into interior design and indoor activities. That's why they have very big indoor spaces and malls just take it to the next level.
I'll be honest, driving in Dubai sucks ass. They have some trains, but it's very car centric. In the cooler months or when the sun sets, people go outside a lot more. A lot of nature stuff if you leave the city.
Dubai is very hot and humid. A lot of activities rely on being indoors to stay cool. Since they're inside a lot, they put a lot of effort into interior design and indoor activities. That's why they have very big indoor spaces and malls just take it to the next level.
I'll be honest, driving in Dubai sucks ass. They have some trains, but it's very car centric. In the cooler months or when the sun sets, people go outside a lot more. A lot of nature stuff if you leave the city.
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 8:42:19 AM No.2803897
>>2803799
those properties are the most expensive ones. not related to housing crisis
those properties are the most expensive ones. not related to housing crisis
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 1:48:48 PM No.2803953
>>2803897
The strategy of Saudi is different. Their initial aim was for 9 million people to live in Neom, which is going to be run as a quasi-autonomous region, without Shari.
I believe they want to create a globohomo utopia for people from Egypt, Pakistan, India, Pakistan, Russia who want to escape their slum shitholes.
Something as bold as "The Line" massively appeals to thirdies, who'll flock to migrate there. The project is probably self-sustaining, as a lot of them will end up running the tourist resorts, extending the construction, manning the huge port, etc.
When the bridge to Sharm is opened, it'll create a corridor to Cairo, which will be fucking massive for the region. Think about how many people go to Mecca, and where they may want to stop on the way.
I meet a lot of Saudis and they never stfu about the project. It's honestly the real deal for them. A failure would utterly crush them, and many important people will lose huge amounts of face, which imo, results in some Islamic extremist revolution.
MBS is betting HARD on his 2030 vision.
If an indorr city in the Middle East actually works, imagine how it could scale. The entire Hejaz coast is practically dry wadis running into the Red Sea. IF the desalination problem is solved, Saudi could suck up Muslims from all over the world and grow insanely powerful.
I'm really hoping that projects like this both:
>relieve the migration crisis in Europe
>inspire the West to build kino shit again
The strategy of Saudi is different. Their initial aim was for 9 million people to live in Neom, which is going to be run as a quasi-autonomous region, without Shari.
I believe they want to create a globohomo utopia for people from Egypt, Pakistan, India, Pakistan, Russia who want to escape their slum shitholes.
Something as bold as "The Line" massively appeals to thirdies, who'll flock to migrate there. The project is probably self-sustaining, as a lot of them will end up running the tourist resorts, extending the construction, manning the huge port, etc.
When the bridge to Sharm is opened, it'll create a corridor to Cairo, which will be fucking massive for the region. Think about how many people go to Mecca, and where they may want to stop on the way.
I meet a lot of Saudis and they never stfu about the project. It's honestly the real deal for them. A failure would utterly crush them, and many important people will lose huge amounts of face, which imo, results in some Islamic extremist revolution.
MBS is betting HARD on his 2030 vision.
If an indorr city in the Middle East actually works, imagine how it could scale. The entire Hejaz coast is practically dry wadis running into the Red Sea. IF the desalination problem is solved, Saudi could suck up Muslims from all over the world and grow insanely powerful.
I'm really hoping that projects like this both:
>relieve the migration crisis in Europe
>inspire the West to build kino shit again
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 1:50:10 PM No.2803954
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 1:55:22 PM No.2803956
>>2803408
>Actually trying to live there long-term would be retarded.
Do you even /trv/? You've left the west, right?
People from Dhaka, Delhi, Giza, Lahore, Karachi, random Indonesian towns, etc would LOVE the chance to live in a place advertised like the concept art.
Mystery meat jeets already jump at the chance of having their passport stolen and living in bunkbed-maxxxed shipping containers, where they take shifts in their beds. Offering 'paradise' as an endgame is a huge value proposition.
It'll be dystopian as fuck, and will be 50% of what is planned, but it's far better than what many have.
I'm honestly looking at the project as a prototype for how Moon/Mars colonisation is going to look, desu. I don't think it's going to be pretty, but I feel countries like Saudi are hungry enough to kickstart a new wave of global development in their image.
>Actually trying to live there long-term would be retarded.
Do you even /trv/? You've left the west, right?
People from Dhaka, Delhi, Giza, Lahore, Karachi, random Indonesian towns, etc would LOVE the chance to live in a place advertised like the concept art.
Mystery meat jeets already jump at the chance of having their passport stolen and living in bunkbed-maxxxed shipping containers, where they take shifts in their beds. Offering 'paradise' as an endgame is a huge value proposition.
It'll be dystopian as fuck, and will be 50% of what is planned, but it's far better than what many have.
I'm honestly looking at the project as a prototype for how Moon/Mars colonisation is going to look, desu. I don't think it's going to be pretty, but I feel countries like Saudi are hungry enough to kickstart a new wave of global development in their image.
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 1:57:43 PM No.2803959
retarded
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 2:59:57 PM No.2803980
>>2803026
why would the saudi royalty need to embezzle anything, they control one trillion dollars in sovereign wealth, travel doesn't make you smarter or well informed
why would the saudi royalty need to embezzle anything, they control one trillion dollars in sovereign wealth, travel doesn't make you smarter or well informed
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 3:00:41 PM No.2803981
>>2803415
i thought they already reduced the scope of the project and recalculated costs after the retarded expensive start they got to the whole ordeal.
i thought they already reduced the scope of the project and recalculated costs after the retarded expensive start they got to the whole ordeal.
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Anonymous
7/20/2025, 2:12:55 AM No.2804153
Anonymous
7/20/2025, 3:11:13 AM No.2804166
>>2803793
You don't realize how nice a shopping mall can be until you leave the states.
You don't realize how nice a shopping mall can be until you leave the states.
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Anonymous
7/20/2025, 3:21:07 AM No.2804168
>>2804166
I remember going to one in China and it pretty much had gold plated bathrooms with bathroom attendants. It took me a while to realize, thought it was just some weirdo trying to peep on people.
I remember going to one in China and it pretty much had gold plated bathrooms with bathroom attendants. It took me a while to realize, thought it was just some weirdo trying to peep on people.
Anonymous
7/20/2025, 5:34:18 AM No.2804194
>>2804166
I went to nice ones in Europe they are still malls and still suck.
I went to nice ones in Europe they are still malls and still suck.
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Anonymous
7/20/2025, 7:19:38 AM No.2804204
>>2804194
europe has the same anti-social elements as the states.
europe has the same anti-social elements as the states.
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Anonymous
7/20/2025, 8:26:16 AM No.2804212
>>2803980
saudi arabia is one of the most corrupt countries in the world, with corruption at every level of government and business
whatever conclusion you drew from your 10 second google search is the wrong one
saudi arabia is one of the most corrupt countries in the world, with corruption at every level of government and business
whatever conclusion you drew from your 10 second google search is the wrong one
Anonymous
7/20/2025, 8:31:10 AM No.2804216
>>2804204
And malls all have the same unpleasant overhead fluorescent lighting, chain stores, loud, echoey halls, and crowds.
And malls all have the same unpleasant overhead fluorescent lighting, chain stores, loud, echoey halls, and crowds.
Anonymous
7/20/2025, 8:31:59 AM No.2804217
but since you are fucking retarded, let me explain it to you
political power in the arab gulf comes from favors you do for people, and you do people favors by giving them opportunities to embezzle money
by giving all of your cronies a chance to take from the pot, you retain their loyalty
those cronies have their cronies who they let take from the pot, and so on and so forth all the way down to construction crew leaders
probably the only people not getting a take from the corruption are the hordes of brown indentured servants
its a multi-layered system that has been around since the earliest days of emirate managed territory
political power in the arab gulf comes from favors you do for people, and you do people favors by giving them opportunities to embezzle money
by giving all of your cronies a chance to take from the pot, you retain their loyalty
those cronies have their cronies who they let take from the pot, and so on and so forth all the way down to construction crew leaders
probably the only people not getting a take from the corruption are the hordes of brown indentured servants
its a multi-layered system that has been around since the earliest days of emirate managed territory
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Anonymous
7/20/2025, 11:55:12 AM No.2804244
>>2802975 (OP)
If The Line / NEOM actually gets built somewhat similar to the glossy brochures, then yes, it's definitely a based trv destination. Why wouldn't you visit it? Would you rather visit Soi Cowboy or go dumpster diving for malnutritioned slum dwellers in Angeles City?
That being said, the line is a fkn scam! Hahaha. Even if it doesn't get built, we should still all trv there just to laugh at the 50 IQ sand monkeys. Modern day arabs are absolute ghouls and demons. Prophet Muhammad PBUH would be ashamed at what these kike loving faggots have become.
If The Line / NEOM actually gets built somewhat similar to the glossy brochures, then yes, it's definitely a based trv destination. Why wouldn't you visit it? Would you rather visit Soi Cowboy or go dumpster diving for malnutritioned slum dwellers in Angeles City?
That being said, the line is a fkn scam! Hahaha. Even if it doesn't get built, we should still all trv there just to laugh at the 50 IQ sand monkeys. Modern day arabs are absolute ghouls and demons. Prophet Muhammad PBUH would be ashamed at what these kike loving faggots have become.
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Anonymous
7/20/2025, 12:22:09 PM No.2804247
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 1:15:26 AM No.2804760
>>2804244
kek
kek
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 2:04:14 AM No.2804778
>>2804244
I'd unironically rather go visit Soi Cowboy or dumpster dive out in LA than visit this sterile dry sexless theocratic dump
>Thailand / Bangkok
good food, lots of history, and still plenty to do besides the sexpat stuff if you're averse to that
>LA
ok the city has a lot of things that suck about it but there are cool museums, lots of nature stuff (assuming none of it's on fire when i visit), at least it has every cuisine in the world and i don't have to worry about whether any of it is halal
both have good parts and "stay the fuck out of here" parts but unlike 99% of tourists I'm street-smart and do my research before coming
and while i'm not some newurbanistfag, both are known to be car dependent, but "THE LINE" is, well, the fucking LINE... the opposite extreme imo
like there's not going to be a "the line cuisine" or a "history of the line" or a "old the line historic district". if i'm rich af maybe it'll be better, but i'm not rich af. same reason i don't plan on visiting even dubai any time now.
if i really wanna see blocky and expensive aesthetics I have all of northern europe + japan at my disposal
i just really hate deserts in general anyways, would have a hard time moving to phoenix or vegas here.
for context I'm an E Asian American in my 20s; at this rate, assuming no interruptions (bold assumption imo), feel like i could be a grandfather and the line would still be far from looking the way it does in the promo pics
I'd unironically rather go visit Soi Cowboy or dumpster dive out in LA than visit this sterile dry sexless theocratic dump
>Thailand / Bangkok
good food, lots of history, and still plenty to do besides the sexpat stuff if you're averse to that
>LA
ok the city has a lot of things that suck about it but there are cool museums, lots of nature stuff (assuming none of it's on fire when i visit), at least it has every cuisine in the world and i don't have to worry about whether any of it is halal
both have good parts and "stay the fuck out of here" parts but unlike 99% of tourists I'm street-smart and do my research before coming
and while i'm not some newurbanistfag, both are known to be car dependent, but "THE LINE" is, well, the fucking LINE... the opposite extreme imo
like there's not going to be a "the line cuisine" or a "history of the line" or a "old the line historic district". if i'm rich af maybe it'll be better, but i'm not rich af. same reason i don't plan on visiting even dubai any time now.
if i really wanna see blocky and expensive aesthetics I have all of northern europe + japan at my disposal
i just really hate deserts in general anyways, would have a hard time moving to phoenix or vegas here.
for context I'm an E Asian American in my 20s; at this rate, assuming no interruptions (bold assumption imo), feel like i could be a grandfather and the line would still be far from looking the way it does in the promo pics
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 6:16:23 AM No.2804825
>>2802975 (OP)
If the Arabs have this kind of fuck you money wouldn't it be better to spend it on colonizing Mars? I mean this is basically a terraforming project.
If the Arabs have this kind of fuck you money wouldn't it be better to spend it on colonizing Mars? I mean this is basically a terraforming project.
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 1:16:56 PM No.2804904
>>2804166
why would you even want to go to a mall, that is such an amerimutt thing, look they have a cooler mall than we do
why would you even want to go to a mall, that is such an amerimutt thing, look they have a cooler mall than we do
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 1:24:59 PM No.2804910
>>2804247
anglos and saudis are the biggest allies since forever
anglos and saudis are the biggest allies since forever
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 2:17:06 PM No.2804932
>>2804825
Mars colonization is a massive meme, even if it was feasible they'd need way more money than they have.
Mars colonization is a massive meme, even if it was feasible they'd need way more money than they have.
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 3:50:13 PM No.2804969
>>2804901
yeah right. that's why they have billions of dollars in real estate investments there
yeah right. that's why they have billions of dollars in real estate investments there
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 6:58:20 PM No.2805020
>>2804778
>I'm an E Asian American
So a diaspora faggot of race traitors that abandoned their culture for shekels. Well have fun in Northern Europe, which is a low trust shithole full of Zoomalis.
>I'm an E Asian American
So a diaspora faggot of race traitors that abandoned their culture for shekels. Well have fun in Northern Europe, which is a low trust shithole full of Zoomalis.
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 7:33:31 PM No.2805030
>>2802990
Yes transport lines are vertical, but cities are circular. That's how things are meant to be. Having a vertical city with a single transportation line just doesn't make sense when you have a circular city with multiple transportation lines. Why make people go 170km to their destination when in a circular city the same size you can reach one end to the other in 3km?
You could basically make a perfectly designed circular spoke and wheel transit systems, with several lines exuding from the center and multiple 'rings'.
Yes transport lines are vertical, but cities are circular. That's how things are meant to be. Having a vertical city with a single transportation line just doesn't make sense when you have a circular city with multiple transportation lines. Why make people go 170km to their destination when in a circular city the same size you can reach one end to the other in 3km?
You could basically make a perfectly designed circular spoke and wheel transit systems, with several lines exuding from the center and multiple 'rings'.
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 8:33:42 PM No.2805052
>>2802990
>What benefits would a circle have over a line in this specific location?
Average distance between two points goes way down. Transport web instead of straight line allows for re-routing in case of breakdowns. Transporting goods like food is cheaper, supplying water is easier. Basically anything that needs to be transported into or out of the city is cheaper and easier if you have a web instead of a line.
>>2803318
No, it is "fossil" because it comes out of the ground. That's what the word means, "dug out of the ground." It was applied to fossil fuels well before the word became synonymous with traces of ancient organism dug out of the ground.
>What benefits would a circle have over a line in this specific location?
Average distance between two points goes way down. Transport web instead of straight line allows for re-routing in case of breakdowns. Transporting goods like food is cheaper, supplying water is easier. Basically anything that needs to be transported into or out of the city is cheaper and easier if you have a web instead of a line.
>>2803318
No, it is "fossil" because it comes out of the ground. That's what the word means, "dug out of the ground." It was applied to fossil fuels well before the word became synonymous with traces of ancient organism dug out of the ground.
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 8:35:15 PM No.2805053
>>2802975 (OP)
Of all the various retarded bits of the NEOM project, "The Line" is the least likely to be a worthwhile destination, assuming any of them actually get completed.
Of all the various retarded bits of the NEOM project, "The Line" is the least likely to be a worthwhile destination, assuming any of them actually get completed.
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 8:40:46 PM No.2805056
>>2804825
>If the Arabs have this kind of fuck you money wouldn't it be better to spend it on colonizing Mars? I mean this is basically a terraforming project.
No -- this is almost infinitely easier than colonizing Mars. On Mars, the average temperature is MUCH colder than Antarctica. There is little water, and what there is will be contaminated by toxic perchlorate salts. There is no magnetic field to shield against cosmic ray radiation. There is no breathable air. It is way too far away in terms of transport time to be worth trading with, even if there was anything on Mars worth trading for.And on and on...
Colonizing Antarctica makes orders of magnitude more sense than colonizing Mars. But nobody is seriously talking about planting Antarctic colonies (as opposed to research stations -- which there might be on Mars too, one of these days) because there is no reason to do so and it would be insanely difficult, which only goes more so for Mars.
>If the Arabs have this kind of fuck you money wouldn't it be better to spend it on colonizing Mars? I mean this is basically a terraforming project.
No -- this is almost infinitely easier than colonizing Mars. On Mars, the average temperature is MUCH colder than Antarctica. There is little water, and what there is will be contaminated by toxic perchlorate salts. There is no magnetic field to shield against cosmic ray radiation. There is no breathable air. It is way too far away in terms of transport time to be worth trading with, even if there was anything on Mars worth trading for.And on and on...
Colonizing Antarctica makes orders of magnitude more sense than colonizing Mars. But nobody is seriously talking about planting Antarctic colonies (as opposed to research stations -- which there might be on Mars too, one of these days) because there is no reason to do so and it would be insanely difficult, which only goes more so for Mars.
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 8:44:36 PM No.2805057
>>2803446
>all that beach front property and not a single person sunbathing
imagine willingly spending money to buy a house in fucking dubai lol
>all that beach front property and not a single person sunbathing
imagine willingly spending money to buy a house in fucking dubai lol
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 8:55:36 PM No.2805059
>>2803415
>>2803420
>>2803424
>>2803425
>>2803429
Bro, are you okay?????? I actually agree with heaps of your stuff but you need to take your meds, did a saudi fuck your missus or something?
I think the project is kino if it actually happens, I am a /DIY/ carpenter fag so it would be cool to see some actual innovative shit. I do have my doubts though, I watched a video and they stated they will just continue, continue and continue building and obviously open sections at a time so its pretty much always going to be under construction until they read their end goal. I don't like that NEOM has so many projects are one time they are overdoing it and should just focus on 1 or 2. Like "The Line" & the huge octagonal port.
I would consider working on the line if the money was handsome, Ive heard they have had a few deaths though but my career is risk free unless a crane kills me. I would never stay at the line but I would like to look at it from a distance and then go camp it a yurt in the desert with a few saudi bros.
>I'm really hoping that projects like this both: relieve the migration crisis in Europe, inspire the West to build kino shit again
This. I wish the west would continue building things you could marvel at eiffel tower, statue of liberty etc etc
>>2803420
>>2803424
>>2803425
>>2803429
Bro, are you okay?????? I actually agree with heaps of your stuff but you need to take your meds, did a saudi fuck your missus or something?
I think the project is kino if it actually happens, I am a /DIY/ carpenter fag so it would be cool to see some actual innovative shit. I do have my doubts though, I watched a video and they stated they will just continue, continue and continue building and obviously open sections at a time so its pretty much always going to be under construction until they read their end goal. I don't like that NEOM has so many projects are one time they are overdoing it and should just focus on 1 or 2. Like "The Line" & the huge octagonal port.
I would consider working on the line if the money was handsome, Ive heard they have had a few deaths though but my career is risk free unless a crane kills me. I would never stay at the line but I would like to look at it from a distance and then go camp it a yurt in the desert with a few saudi bros.
>I'm really hoping that projects like this both: relieve the migration crisis in Europe, inspire the West to build kino shit again
This. I wish the west would continue building things you could marvel at eiffel tower, statue of liberty etc etc
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 10:26:37 PM No.2805090
>>2805056
I think you underestimate how ambitious this project is. We are talking about building a massive self-sustaining arcology, spanning hundreds of miles, to house 7 million people, if you have more for that, then you have money to hire the best engineers in the world and research how to colonize Mars with a few thousand people.
And you missed the point of my rethorical question, my point here is that they don't have the money to build this and it probably won't get built.
I think you underestimate how ambitious this project is. We are talking about building a massive self-sustaining arcology, spanning hundreds of miles, to house 7 million people, if you have more for that, then you have money to hire the best engineers in the world and research how to colonize Mars with a few thousand people.
And you missed the point of my rethorical question, my point here is that they don't have the money to build this and it probably won't get built.
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 10:30:54 PM No.2805092
I think you underestimate how ambitious this project is. We are talking about building a massive self-sustaining arcology, spanning 110 miles, to house 7 million people. This involves several logistical hurdles, such as procuring water for 7 million people, feeding them, generating enough energy, preventing the building from being destroyed by sandstorms, developing new types of elevators and rail lines that can connect the whole thing as fast as it was promised, providing an air conditioned atmosphere inside, and everything built with enough redundancy so that a power cut or a natural disaster doesn't leave the aforementioned 7 million people scorching / starving / dying of thirst.
If you have money for that, then you have money to hire the best engineers in the world and research how to colonize Mars with a few thousand people. It is unironically a lesser scope project that would build more soft power for the Saudis.
And you missed the point of my rethorical question, my point here is that they don't have the money to build this and it probably won't get built.
If you have money for that, then you have money to hire the best engineers in the world and research how to colonize Mars with a few thousand people. It is unironically a lesser scope project that would build more soft power for the Saudis.
And you missed the point of my rethorical question, my point here is that they don't have the money to build this and it probably won't get built.
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 12:14:14 AM No.2805113
>>2805030
I think it makes more sense to view the line as a collection of cities based on a river.
Think of a hyper-condensed Egypt.
The NIle is the lifeblood of the nation, and it runs parallel to most infrastructure, and is where most of the major cities are located.
If you imagine the Egyptian Nile which is 1/10 the length (ugh this sounds insane scale like this), with cities all along the banks, you'll get 'The Line'.
There'll no doubt be different zones which are distinct settlements and have their own 'webbed' transport models connecting them in a 3d manner. So far you can identify:
>The marina at the end (Alexandria)
>Gayal Bay (Cairo)
>The face of the mountain/Wadi (Luxor) (Currently where it looks like the Indian workers are camped out)
>The inland facing part of the mountains (Aswan)
The high speed rail will connect the sectors. However, each 'sector' will have its own transport. Nobody needs to travel 170km often. People from Alexandria don't go to Luxor often, they have everything they need locally.
Gravity and valleys are by far the most efficient and sustainable way of moving water and keeping it fresh. The project on a macro level has to emulate a river valley, else the complexity will be insane.
>>2805052
I really don't understand how a circular network of water is easier to manage than repicating a river valley - pumping deslinated water up to a reservoir on the top of a mountain and letting it flow down 'naturally'.
There's only 3 places goods are going to come from for The Line:
>via Tabuk (& inland Saudi)
>via the Octagon Port (& rest of Hejaz)
>via the bridge to Sharm in Egypt (and the Red Sea resorts in Gulf of Aqaba)
Everything else is utterly irrelevant.
It looks like "Gayal" will be the """"capital"""" given the current transport links and geography. There'll no doubt be major openings here.
I think it makes more sense to view the line as a collection of cities based on a river.
Think of a hyper-condensed Egypt.
The NIle is the lifeblood of the nation, and it runs parallel to most infrastructure, and is where most of the major cities are located.
If you imagine the Egyptian Nile which is 1/10 the length (ugh this sounds insane scale like this), with cities all along the banks, you'll get 'The Line'.
There'll no doubt be different zones which are distinct settlements and have their own 'webbed' transport models connecting them in a 3d manner. So far you can identify:
>The marina at the end (Alexandria)
>Gayal Bay (Cairo)
>The face of the mountain/Wadi (Luxor) (Currently where it looks like the Indian workers are camped out)
>The inland facing part of the mountains (Aswan)
The high speed rail will connect the sectors. However, each 'sector' will have its own transport. Nobody needs to travel 170km often. People from Alexandria don't go to Luxor often, they have everything they need locally.
Gravity and valleys are by far the most efficient and sustainable way of moving water and keeping it fresh. The project on a macro level has to emulate a river valley, else the complexity will be insane.
>>2805052
I really don't understand how a circular network of water is easier to manage than repicating a river valley - pumping deslinated water up to a reservoir on the top of a mountain and letting it flow down 'naturally'.
There's only 3 places goods are going to come from for The Line:
>via Tabuk (& inland Saudi)
>via the Octagon Port (& rest of Hejaz)
>via the bridge to Sharm in Egypt (and the Red Sea resorts in Gulf of Aqaba)
Everything else is utterly irrelevant.
It looks like "Gayal" will be the """"capital"""" given the current transport links and geography. There'll no doubt be major openings here.
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 12:34:58 AM No.2805115
>>2805092
A few thousand people on Mars does nothing for Saudi. Mars is a superpower crowning project, Saudi is still a great power with a small population and a shitty roll of the map geographically.
They're looking at ways to:
>Grow their population
>Overcome water scarcity
>Connect with the world without pissing off hardcore Muslims
Neom - theoretically - allows them to add 9 mllions foreigners to their population by 2045, without needing to impact the conservative nature of their citizens and get rid of Sharia.
There's probably no better place to build this new city. It's the closest to Europe they can get to present their 'modern, futuristic image', and in a strategic location near Egypt/Suez.
If they pull it off, they are the undisputed masters of the Red Sea and the region, and will be able to spread this engineering elsewhere to effectively sweep up the MENA region.
Saudi are looking to be an EU/China/US power, and projects like this will wow the pajeets and africans and demonstrate supremacy.
A few thousand people on Mars does nothing for Saudi. Mars is a superpower crowning project, Saudi is still a great power with a small population and a shitty roll of the map geographically.
They're looking at ways to:
>Grow their population
>Overcome water scarcity
>Connect with the world without pissing off hardcore Muslims
Neom - theoretically - allows them to add 9 mllions foreigners to their population by 2045, without needing to impact the conservative nature of their citizens and get rid of Sharia.
There's probably no better place to build this new city. It's the closest to Europe they can get to present their 'modern, futuristic image', and in a strategic location near Egypt/Suez.
If they pull it off, they are the undisputed masters of the Red Sea and the region, and will be able to spread this engineering elsewhere to effectively sweep up the MENA region.
Saudi are looking to be an EU/China/US power, and projects like this will wow the pajeets and africans and demonstrate supremacy.
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 12:39:30 AM No.2805116
>>2805059
They all work together, though.
The tourist resorts aim to establish Saudi as a tourism capital for the global elite, which will drive future investment.
The port is essential for work, getting materials in, the desalination projects, keeping manufacturing in house, etc.
The line is the 'collection of cities' which will eventually house Saudi's future foreign/slightly more liberal population. There's a middle class of people from places like Egypt, Pakitan, and Bangladesh who'd love to escape their shithole cities and live in their perception of luxury. If you can capture this talent, encourage them to breed, and keep them loyal, you're building a serious foundation for a strong nation.
They all work together, though.
The tourist resorts aim to establish Saudi as a tourism capital for the global elite, which will drive future investment.
The port is essential for work, getting materials in, the desalination projects, keeping manufacturing in house, etc.
The line is the 'collection of cities' which will eventually house Saudi's future foreign/slightly more liberal population. There's a middle class of people from places like Egypt, Pakitan, and Bangladesh who'd love to escape their shithole cities and live in their perception of luxury. If you can capture this talent, encourage them to breed, and keep them loyal, you're building a serious foundation for a strong nation.
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7/23/2025, 3:07:21 AM No.2805142
>>2805113
Egypt is linear settled but not at a width of merely 200m.
200m wide 170km linear settlement is madness. They could have the same area in a circular settlement at 6.58km diameter. That's an area of 34,000,000m2 for each.
6.58km circular settlement is better than a 0.2km*170km settlement.
Egypt is linear settled but not at a width of merely 200m.
200m wide 170km linear settlement is madness. They could have the same area in a circular settlement at 6.58km diameter. That's an area of 34,000,000m2 for each.
6.58km circular settlement is better than a 0.2km*170km settlement.
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7/23/2025, 5:08:07 AM No.2805154
>>2805116
>>2805115
>>2805113
What are the 7 million people living in "the Line" gonna work in? What jobs will they have? How will they commute? There's no industry there. It's a fucking 110 mile long building in the middle of the scorching desert. Designed in a way that the lower levels won't even see sunlight.
And what happens if Saudi Arabia gets into a war and the enemy country decides to hit "the Line" with cruise missiles or some shit?
Part of me wishes to see this happen for the sheer cyberpunk insanity of it.
Like, I don't see a happy ending for this.
It's gonna be either:
A. Project gets abandoned half-way and it becomes the most kino source of urban exploration videos in the world.
B. It gets built and collapses into lawlessness with lower levels full of graffiti and destitute people (think Coruscant but more distopian) due to no jobs. Rich people slowly bail out and it becomes the largest slum in the world.
C. At some point it gets attacked or the power grid collapses in some other fashion causing 7 million Pajeets to scorch to death as the wander the desert hungry, thirsty and confused.
Or a combination of the above.
>>2805115
>>2805113
What are the 7 million people living in "the Line" gonna work in? What jobs will they have? How will they commute? There's no industry there. It's a fucking 110 mile long building in the middle of the scorching desert. Designed in a way that the lower levels won't even see sunlight.
And what happens if Saudi Arabia gets into a war and the enemy country decides to hit "the Line" with cruise missiles or some shit?
Part of me wishes to see this happen for the sheer cyberpunk insanity of it.
Like, I don't see a happy ending for this.
It's gonna be either:
A. Project gets abandoned half-way and it becomes the most kino source of urban exploration videos in the world.
B. It gets built and collapses into lawlessness with lower levels full of graffiti and destitute people (think Coruscant but more distopian) due to no jobs. Rich people slowly bail out and it becomes the largest slum in the world.
C. At some point it gets attacked or the power grid collapses in some other fashion causing 7 million Pajeets to scorch to death as the wander the desert hungry, thirsty and confused.
Or a combination of the above.
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 5:09:58 AM No.2805155
>>2805116
>>2805115
>>2805113
What are the 7 million people living in "the Line" gonna work in? What jobs will they have? How will they commute? There's no industry there. It's a fucking 110 mile long building in the middle of the scorching desert. Designed in a way that the lower levels won't even see sunlight.
And what happens if Saudi Arabia gets into a war and the enemy country decides to hit "the Line" with cruise missiles or some shit?
Part of me wishes to see this happen for the sheer cyberpunk insanity of it.
Like, I don't see a happy ending for this.
It's gonna be either:
A. Project gets abandoned half-way and it becomes the most kino source of urban exploration videos in the world.
B. It gets built and collapses into lawlessness with lower levels full of graffiti and destitute people (think Coruscant but more dystopian) due to no jobs. Rich people slowly bail out and it becomes the largest slum in the world.
C. At some point it gets attacked or the power grid collapses in some other fashion causing 7 million Pajeets to scorch to death as they wander the desert hungry, thirsty and confused.
Or a combination of the above.
>>2805115
>>2805113
What are the 7 million people living in "the Line" gonna work in? What jobs will they have? How will they commute? There's no industry there. It's a fucking 110 mile long building in the middle of the scorching desert. Designed in a way that the lower levels won't even see sunlight.
And what happens if Saudi Arabia gets into a war and the enemy country decides to hit "the Line" with cruise missiles or some shit?
Part of me wishes to see this happen for the sheer cyberpunk insanity of it.
Like, I don't see a happy ending for this.
It's gonna be either:
A. Project gets abandoned half-way and it becomes the most kino source of urban exploration videos in the world.
B. It gets built and collapses into lawlessness with lower levels full of graffiti and destitute people (think Coruscant but more dystopian) due to no jobs. Rich people slowly bail out and it becomes the largest slum in the world.
C. At some point it gets attacked or the power grid collapses in some other fashion causing 7 million Pajeets to scorch to death as they wander the desert hungry, thirsty and confused.
Or a combination of the above.
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 5:49:16 AM No.2805160
>>2805155
All three of those outcomes sound kino af. I want this to happen.
All three of those outcomes sound kino af. I want this to happen.
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 9:07:06 AM No.2805193
>>2805030
>Why make people go 170km to their destination when in a circular city the same size you can reach one end to the other in 3km?
Depends on the train.
Just like when buildings get big enough you have lifts that only go to certain sections.
A pure straight flat line means very high speeds with basic technology.
170km is 30 mins on zero gradient perfectly straight rails with no stops, on par or better than commutes in major cities.
They'd have a express high speed line with central hubs, and then overlapping local section lines hitting each stop along the line.
>Why make people go 170km to their destination when in a circular city the same size you can reach one end to the other in 3km?
Depends on the train.
Just like when buildings get big enough you have lifts that only go to certain sections.
A pure straight flat line means very high speeds with basic technology.
170km is 30 mins on zero gradient perfectly straight rails with no stops, on par or better than commutes in major cities.
They'd have a express high speed line with central hubs, and then overlapping local section lines hitting each stop along the line.
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 11:02:22 AM No.2805201
>>2805059
I worked in SA and other parts of middle east for about 10 years of my life. If I seem worked up its because I had to deal with their shit and it annoys me that people without experience have a shred of trust or good will towards these animals.
I worked in SA and other parts of middle east for about 10 years of my life. If I seem worked up its because I had to deal with their shit and it annoys me that people without experience have a shred of trust or good will towards these animals.
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 11:11:45 AM No.2805203
Neom or The Cube are not happening either btw.
The best you are going to get is some gilded age worlds fair tier bullshit for a photo op, and then it gets abandoned/repurposed into privately owned luxury condos owned by investors.
The best you are going to get is some gilded age worlds fair tier bullshit for a photo op, and then it gets abandoned/repurposed into privately owned luxury condos owned by investors.
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 11:13:16 AM No.2805204
>>2805193
You are brown.
You are brown.
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 11:47:32 AM No.2805210
>>2805201
fair my guy, what did you do there for work?
fair my guy, what did you do there for work?
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 12:07:20 PM No.2805212
>>2804217
This is literally a description of doing business in the US lol
This is literally a description of doing business in the US lol
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 5:24:14 PM No.2805297
>>2805193
You can build perfectly straight transit lines in a circular settlement also.
Consult my crude drawing. You can have 4 perfectly straight transit lines and two ring routes that will put everyone very close to a station and the ability to get everywhere quickly with only 1 transfer. And top speed doesn't matter as much when your settlement only has a 6.58km diameter. Pare it with some of those moving sidewalks (like you see at the airport) and you have the perfect arcology with the perfect transit system and the ability to get anywhere quickly. It would also be more energy efficient.
You can build perfectly straight transit lines in a circular settlement also.
Consult my crude drawing. You can have 4 perfectly straight transit lines and two ring routes that will put everyone very close to a station and the ability to get everywhere quickly with only 1 transfer. And top speed doesn't matter as much when your settlement only has a 6.58km diameter. Pare it with some of those moving sidewalks (like you see at the airport) and you have the perfect arcology with the perfect transit system and the ability to get anywhere quickly. It would also be more energy efficient.
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7/24/2025, 12:43:17 AM No.2805403
>>2805297
I don't think you fundementally undertand the region at all. You're just copy-pasting 'the perfect city' into a place you have no idea about.
Tell me about the property values of these wonderful inner core apartments, compared to the line being parallel to the coast.
Tell me about how it's easier to pump clean water around 25 interlocking nodes as opposed to letting it flow down the mountain from reservoirs.
Tell me where the 'core' focal points of 'the Line' are going to be, and then tell me how you're going to build 50% of your circle in the ocean.
I bet you can't even find the place on the map without typing it in, kek.
>>2805203
Foundations are being laid, the site is bulldozed, there's literal cricket stadiums built for the towns of Indians who have been shipped in. China has dug a 10km tunnel underound.
Fucking hell, fellow westerners are so fucking mindcucked, they refuse to see we're being left behind in the ambition stakes.
>>2805201
Funny because I also deal with Saudis, and have the opposite impression. Skill isue, probably. Though I suspect you're an arrogant cunt who looks at the world through a 20th century American Empire lense.
>>2805142
The optimal state of Egypt is a thin civ hugging the Nile, while covering the river to trap evaporated water. Water doesn't go round in circles. It's retarded.
Do you know what a desert is? Have you been to the Middle East?
I don't think you fundementally undertand the region at all. You're just copy-pasting 'the perfect city' into a place you have no idea about.
Tell me about the property values of these wonderful inner core apartments, compared to the line being parallel to the coast.
Tell me about how it's easier to pump clean water around 25 interlocking nodes as opposed to letting it flow down the mountain from reservoirs.
Tell me where the 'core' focal points of 'the Line' are going to be, and then tell me how you're going to build 50% of your circle in the ocean.
I bet you can't even find the place on the map without typing it in, kek.
>>2805203
Foundations are being laid, the site is bulldozed, there's literal cricket stadiums built for the towns of Indians who have been shipped in. China has dug a 10km tunnel underound.
Fucking hell, fellow westerners are so fucking mindcucked, they refuse to see we're being left behind in the ambition stakes.
>>2805201
Funny because I also deal with Saudis, and have the opposite impression. Skill isue, probably. Though I suspect you're an arrogant cunt who looks at the world through a 20th century American Empire lense.
>>2805142
The optimal state of Egypt is a thin civ hugging the Nile, while covering the river to trap evaporated water. Water doesn't go round in circles. It's retarded.
Do you know what a desert is? Have you been to the Middle East?