Surely after the agents get into Zion and blow up our ship they will make me rich and famous :)

a) she was a whore.
b) Beef & sausage by the carload

>>211365119 (OP)
Are you saying that once the resistance is crushed they will stop using humans as batteries for some reason? Are you fucking retarded?

>>211365649
Beat me to it. This retard was so dumb he couldn't follow this scene.

Cypher was going to be put BACK into the Matrix. He wouldn't even know the city was destroyed and robots would continue harvesting his energy until his fleshprison expired.

Go to bed Zoomer OP.

To be fair, it's literally nothing to them. But at the same time it's literally nothing to them. Cipher was under the impression it was a lost cause ontop of being butthurt he's not the One. The slim chance he could live in ignorant bliss was probably worth it for him rather than continuing to live in the hellish reality for people he doesn't care about.

>>211365119 (OP)
Why didn't the matrix monitor people's internet activity half as much as Facebook or Google does to people now and know this shot before it became a problem?

>>211365649
After they kill everyone on the nebachunezzar I’m sure they will spare me or something I’m totally not a liability

>>211365688
Why bother after he served his purpose and no longer has a use? Find his body, transport him, hook him up, etc. Why not just lie to a desperate traitor who holds no loyalty to any other than himself? Why give yourself more work when you can artificially inseminate women and get new fetuses to replace his battery worth?
Why fucking bother when you don't have to?

>>211365843
This rofl, imagine thinking if neo cooperated with the agents and led them to Morpheus in the interrogation room they would let him go kek

This guy just seemed really dumb just so the movie could have a "they're in real danger!" moment
If he succeeded, he wouldn't know
If he succeeded and they just killed him in his sleep, he wouldn't know
Like he cared enough to keep on living and guarantee himself luxury but not enough to make sure he's aware of it

>>211365818
If you can show me at any point in which the machines were duplicitous I will concede the point to you, otherwise you are a faggot lil zoom zoom

They should put Cypher in the Matrix 5 as a Hugh Hefner like character dating three blondes at once, just in the background of one scene, in complete ignorance of Neo or anything going on other than his shallow and lavish life.

>>211366045
What about the fact that the matrix itself is a lie? Kinda the central point of the movie.

Beyond that machines that lied to Neo (non-exhaustive):
>smith, from the very first time they met
>the oracle
>the architect
>the merovingian

>>211366160
>What about the fact that the matrix itself is a lie? Kinda the central point of the movie.
The Matrix isn't a lie, it's a reality for the machines own home grown creations, bio humans are the one's stealing them away from their world
>smith, from the very first time they met
Despite being a rogue program (removing earpiece to express hate and fuck with Morpheus) this is the closest I'll give you to a concession
>the oracle
Neo wasn't the one until he was, no deception here
>the architect
Where's the fucking deception? Dude gives him a very verbose breakdown of what has happened
>the merovingian
Rogue fucking program, watch the series again zoomie

>>211366309
>this is the sixth time we have destroyed Zion
That was a lie

>>211366160
Modern ai lies, so surely their future iterations would never

>>211366341
yeah reality is they destroyed it hundreds of times.
it's literally thousands of years into the future.

>>211366341
>Squids tearing Zion 1000 new assholes isn't destroying it, because it isn't destroyed completely

>>211365843
>Why bother after he served his purpose and no longer has a use?

I'm sure he considered they would betray him. It was either wanting to die completely or chance getting to live in the Matrix again. This isn't rocket appliances, guy.

>>211366309
>Neo wasn't the one until he was, no deception here
Neo wasnt the one. Smith was the one she told told neo "what he needed to hear"
The one was born within the matrix. Neo was still a physical being born outside of it and brought into it
Are you stupid or just a traitor to humanity? I'd like to make sure i tell you to fuck yourself for the correct reason

>>211366361
Sounds like they did a pretty shitty job of destroying it... Caesar destroyed Carthage with way more efficiency that hyper intelligent robots did the kikes...

>>211366045
They remove Neo's mouth, put a bug in his bellybutton, then frame the entire ordeal so he wakes up back home thinking it was all just a dream.

>Food was so bad you literally turn traitor over it

>>211366454
Ignore him, he’s a dumbass.

He really fuckin thinks that machines invade Zion every 20 years and kill all but 12 females and 7 males and Neo repopulates Zion or something. That makes perfect sense and is definitely efficient for the machines, who can literally LAB GROW HUMANS.

Honestly he is just a dumb boomer worshipping a shitty movie made by trannies because he identified with Neo as a loner kid in school.

>>211366420
Mother fucker said youre retarded to not believe he was going to be put back in the matrix and you completely misunderstood the scene for not thinking that.
Im guessing that had to have been you, cuz no rational person would defend thaglt, or not be able to keep up
It isn't building a fucking rocket, but it was still over his/your head

>>211366045
1s and 0s do not make a smell that other 1s and 0s can then smell. That's not why Smith hates people, its a programmed excuse. A lie

>>211366545
You’re stupid. The machines don’t give a shit about cypher. Best case scenario they put him back exactly as he was when he was a blue pill so he can lure more resistance people naturally.

>>211366426
>Neo wasnt the one. Smith was the one
Citation fucking needed
>>211366494
Smith's actions, I can only type
>Rogue Program
Enough to hope it shows up on the part of your screen not fogged by mouth breathing

Why didn't the machines try going to space instead of staying in this shithole with no sun?

>>211366655
Because they are smart enough to know space doesn't exist.

>>211366147
>We have to wake up Cypher.
>He's the key to all of this.
Kino.

>>211366573
You're stupid. Morpheus lures people. Not Cypher. Who lured Cypher? His own self? No. Morphed did. And they weren't paying attention to that anyway, as indoctrinated neo met up with him and took the red pill with out their notice.
The machines dont give a shit about him. Fuck him.
But somehow you dont get that...
When does summer vacation start for you?
>>211366621
>>Neo wasnt the one. Smith was the one
>Citation fucking needed
The first two movies. Maybe try giving them a watch. Pic related is from the first one
>the oracle told you what you needed to hear. That's all
Please refrain from the conversation if you don't have the slightest fucking clue what you're talking about

>>211365119 (OP)
genuenly no reason not to believe them if you had proof the early iterations of the matrix were like paradise for people. That would mean they would be willing to offer that again.

>>211366879
>the oracle told you what you needed to hear. That's all
I covered this, Neo wasn't the one until he believed, which happened after he pulled a Christ and resurrected. Cypher even being his foil, as Cypher is fun computer speak for Zero makes the whole binary with Neo being the One. Even the anagram is there, watch the fucking P.O.D. music video since you need to start with the Dr. Seuss level media for this franchise.

>>211366879
Morpheus doesn’t lure people dumbass, he seeks them out. Did you watch the movie? If he lured people why would they have a rule about not turning adult minds? Dumbass.

>>211366924
Where/when was it offered? Did they not actively try to seek out and kill those who did not go into the matrix, like those on the nebuchadnezzar and other such human ships?
If it was merely an offer of paradise, surely they wouldn't try to kill everyone who didn't sign up, right?

>>211366655
Space is just heaven for atheists if you lookup the stuff highly rich and successful people are interested in they dont even entertain the possibility, they rather become interested in perpetuating the lie to normies. If they keep you looking up you will never look down and right in front of you, that is the game being played. But if you are one of the atheists I described who has fantastical ideas of the endless possibility of 'space' none of this will make sense and i have to be crazy/retarded for you to maintain existential stability.

>>211366968
In the architect scene and animatrix they say humans didnt like it and tried to escape it, but if you choose to just say that was all a lie to deceive Neo and potential rebellions then thats fine too.

>>211366945
>I covered this,
You didnt
>Neo wasn't the one until he believed,
He wasnt. And I gave evidence. Not reading your ignorant bullshit until you can address the points. I dont have time for stupid ass 4chan contrarians

>>211366946
I did. And insaw neo follow the white rabbit. And already know who morpheus and trinity were. And have his own head canon of them. I watched neo get lured in the first 15 minutes of the movie. I'd ask how you missed it, but there's only one way....

>>211367022
>You didnt
>Neo wasn't the one until he was
It is not my fault you are too ESL to understand nuance.
You gave no evidence, the part you quoted
>the oracle told you what you needed to hear, that's all
Bolsters my point, as Neo needed to go through the changes necessary to become the One. You haven't addressed any of my points, and any further shit flinging I will count as victory points in this conversation, thank you for your concession.

>>211365119 (OP)
Too much cooming rots your brains

>>211366971
>If they keep you looking up you will never look down and right in front of you, that is the game being played
If you had half a brain you'd realize this is exactly what the "left" and "right" political spectrum bullshit is for.

>>211366997
>in the fanfic cash grab
Dude... I only watched it cuz I have a boner for peter Chung, but come the fuck on on that one. You're going into gba games of kingdom hearts lore cope. And I actually bought the animatrix.
If that were the case, they wouldn't have sent mecha octopi to hunt down those who didn't sign up for matrix prime and kill them. Cake or death isn't a real choice

>>211367066
Almost like Morpheus said
>I have spent my entire life searching for you
And when they found him they sent him that message. You’re too dumb to live.

i dont see why the machines would betray him. they neither gain anything by betraying him nor loose anything by helping him

>>211367084
I gave a picture of morpheus telling neo the the oracle says whatever. Sorry youre a fucking retard and cant accept the movie as opposed to your fanfic. Fuck, one of the end scenes of the matrix 2, as well, where the oracle confirms this. But youd have to watch the movie to know that, and then you cant act smug once you find out how fucking stupid you are

>>211365159
hi I dont usually comment on 4chan, but I want you to know your story brought me to tears. Thanks for sharing your truth.

>>211367150
Fornthe one, not for nep, and his search was making enticing bait so the one would come to him... are you really this dense?
Don't answer, we all know....

>>211367166
They waste time and resources extracting his body, plugging him back in, and wiping his memories, when they can just bomb the ship

>>211367166
What do they gain by helping him? Theyre computers and objectively autistic to a fault. What do they gain from helping him that makes them want to fulfill their deal?

>>211367206
It was the agents that put out an APB on Morpheus. You think he hacked the matrix to put in stories about himself being a terrorist?

>>211367181
>The Oracle told you what you needed to hear
>Yeah that bitch just says whatever
This is the same phrase to the unfortunately third world located, and probably brown skinned.

>>211367249
I don't think they'd bother cuz no one would know about him other than a niche group. More people would know Zoe Quinn than morpheus
>>211367260
*sniff*n-nuh-uh!! The movie going against my head cannon means youre indian!!
Gotten to, seething, and mind broken.
Have a good night, kiddo. Don't stay up too late, you have school in the morning and your paras want you to perform well

>>211366655
>Why didn't the machines try going to space instead of staying in this shithole with no sun?
Why didn't they just use geothermal energy?

>>211365760
>To be fair, it's literally nothing to them.
Are the agents even capable of lieing? Mr Smith shows us that they're just programs, not really capable of thinking outside the box.

>>211367352
So how come Neo is reading interpol reports on Morpheus? Interpol doesn’t exist in the matrix, who else would put it out but the machines?

>>211367352
>No rebuttals still
5-0 for the good guys, sweet dreams lil squiddie

>>211366454
>Caesar destroyed Carthage with way more efficiency
Wasn't Caesar either

>>211367235
i know its bait or youre retarded but it goes against their directives, they aint humans jamal

>>211367376
....are you fucking kidding?
Most obviously, a plot hole. The movie has more than a few.
Otherwise, controlled opposition to find those looking that up cuz theyre looking for this mythical hacker figure known as 4chan, and that's their honey pot to find such trouble makers, as though they couldn't just just cut off certain thought patterns as it was all being run through itself.
But thats not the case cuz he still recruits people despite all of it being run through their network digitally in a way that the matrix has to process and not say you comitted an illegal action.
3rd option is autistic retards hyping up other autistic retards. He literally went to pol and bought into a meme
Im not being a dick, but three different options that are so obvious, how did none of them occur to you?
Mother fucker you better pray im not brown cuz of the implications to whitey based on you

>>211367396
Found the wwe fan
Why try to reason with a moron? You won't understand and its a waste of time. Just call you a pig who lacks self awareness like everyone else does on /pw/. Im not here to coddle you just cuz you're stupid

>>211367546
I can smell your shit covered fingers from here dalit

>>211367483
>the punic wars never happened and is a roman psyop
Going to do jr college or straight to being a neet?

>>211367522
If theyre not human, why are you giving them human traits?
Also, Jamal, we dont sign our posts here.
And also, 2+2=4, not 5.

i think its fucking funny the ai representatives showed up with a top hat + tie and lingerie. i can see the fucking ai parsing all the human searches/analytics and porn was at the top and basically said: yup, this is it.

Trinity loving Neo is probably what pushed Cypher over the edge. He realized that he had nothing to lose

>>211365649
>>211365688
Yeah I think you illiterate fucking retards missed OP's point. What incentive would they have to honor their agreement, and give him a good life within the matrix? None

>>211367659
Sukdip, stop picking your nose. It's gross. No one needs to know

>>211367730
THEY'RE TRYING THEIR BEST!!

>>211367712
Sex sells. I want to rayp the robot wife while he watches

>>211367730
>What incentive
You're bringing feelings into it, try to think like a machine, ifgivenmorpheusandzion=true then=runactorwholovessteak.exe .
If you're having trouble with this hypothetical, try telling me how you would feel if you didn't have breakfast yesterday.

>>211367817
You think you win a war against humanity by being that naiive?
....nevermind, YOU would

>>211367817
Yeah except Smith didn't operate that way and wanted to destroy both humanity and the Matrix. Your 101 level programming example isn't applicable to the Matrix. Time to go to bed summer friend.

>>211368054
The youtube highlight video he watched instead of the movie didn't cover that, dont be so harsh on him. He's trying his best

>>211365119 (OP)
I mean what does he have to lose? Worst case scenario is they just don't do it. Big whoop. Life in the matrix still beats living in a cave eating gruel.

>>211368054
You didn't really expect him to marathon a 136 minute movie, did you?? No one could possibly do that

>>211365119 (OP)
better than living with smelly brown people eating gruel

>>211368054
>>211368169
How does Smith honoring or not honoring this deal end with both sides being destroyed? If you faggots are going to fellate each other please do it quietly and away from the whites.

>>211367730
The machines were portrayed as trustwrthy. Neal himself made a deal with them

>>211368257
>the machines, who imprisoned humanity in a fake world to cover up the fact they are batteries, are honest

Machines seem more like the djinn type to uphold their promise but twist it into being a cruel punishment somehow

>>211368293
Yes, the machines take pride in not breaking their word which they view as a disgusting human trait

>>211368244
*sigh*
Why do you think Smith gave a shit about a human, or had honor to live up to his end with a species he wanted wiped out? Not everything is linked and some ventures are made to fuck one side as opposed to both because that's the move you have to make.
Now stop trying embarrassing white people, please. It's obvious youre a nigger

>>211368647
>ai doesnt actively.practice.deception now and never would on the future either!
>tay never existed, as well!!
Got it. You're a moron to never be bothered listening to. Thank you for the heads up. Opinion discarded, dont worry, you can go "batin' " now

>>211367373
Agent Smith is capable of hate and abstract speculation , the Programs seem capable of anything a human is, Programming is more a role/order they're designed with but not all they're capable of which is why the Matrix is lousy with rogue programs that exist after and beyond their original purpose. I'm just saying there's no real reason to uphold their part of the bargain, they gain nothing from doing so beyond maybe the ability to say to other resistance fighters that if they surrender peacefully they can go back in the pod.
>>211368382
I don't think it's their intent but Cypher would probably get what he wanted but like Smith said with Morpheus, Humans can't cope with being given paradise. He'd probably still end up miserable

>>211365649
No but why would they plug unfaithful mind back in the system who rebelled in first place? Even humans don't let dogs who bite reproduce.

>>211366001
>If he succeeded, he wouldn't know
That was the point, sort of. Living on the ship he would know for a fact that he was drudging along each day for something he didn't care about. Thinking the machines would hold up their end of the bargain was foolish but I think he chanced it because death to him would be better than another day on the ship.

>>211369311
You've never flipped the batteries around in a TV remove to get a little extra juice after it momentarily starts to act up like it's dead? Same logic.

Also it's explicitly stated by Cypher even that he doesn't care or want to keep any of his memories. He'd be a blank slate and hopefully some rich and famous guy like he wanted. The machines have no reason to lie to him and Agent Smith didn't go haywire until the second movie.

If Ralph Cifaretto wanted to retain his memories then the robots would have a legit risk on their hands and would have a good reason to not follow through with any concessions. Him wanting to be plugged back in despite basically no longer being himself anymore is probably just either blatant denial of what he's really asking for or a legit lack of care due to how shitty his reality was.

>>211365119 (OP)
The machines have no reason to lie, and are completely logical, ergo making him rich and famous is just as easy as making him some random nobody vis a vis they uphold their end of the deal. Concordantly

>>211365818
yes and the machines can totally mindwipe you without causing immense brain damage and implant new memories...because they have that technology even though it would make the matrix redundant

>>211366655
why do people think this is plausible? being AI doesnt mean it can invent useful space travel. especially not after a nuclear war that forced them to use fucking humies as batteries.

also theres a fucking nanite cloud covering the entire earth that fries electronics

I know this is a bait thread a la eagles to Mordor but you have to be absolutely retarded and think like a woman to not understand that the robots WOULD uphold their end of the bargain

And for all the retards the writers spell it out for you in the 3rd movie when they uphold their deal with Neo after he dies and Smith is deleted

The machines are utterly logical. BUT there is also an emotional reason they would uphold the deal. And that is because they care about humans. The first matrix they try to make is a paradise but humans rejected it, so they recreate the matrix for peak civilisation (according to the movies) it doesn’t fall in line with betraying Cypher

On a last note. It doesn’t even matter from Cyphers perspective, he just wants to be out. He doesn’t want to remember the shithole real world and the matrix and machines. Memory wipe. So he wouldn’t even know if they held up the bargain anyway, that’s how badly he wants out. so your argument is retarded in every direction and approach

>>211365119 (OP)
better than greasy nig pit and bowls o snot.

>>211371488
>>You've never flipped the batteries around in a TV remove to get a little extra juice after it momentarily starts to act up like it's dead? Same logic.
except they're robots not retards like you and they would be expending unnecessary energy to transport and brainwipe him