FUCK its good.

>>211396263 (OP)
Yep. All three seasons. Solid.

>>211396263 (OP)
one of the best sitcoms. shame it got cancelled after 3 seasons, but at least it went out on a high note.

Shame about the later netflix seasons

>>211396340
For me, its everyone pretending Franklin is a real person.
>thats my wife youre talking about *chokes the doll*

>>211396360
For me it's
>I don't want no part of yo tired ass country club, ya freak bitch

>>211396360
>Dad, that's my wrist!

Honestly, is it underrated or just memoryholed?

>>211396867
those are not opposites

>>211396880
True but was it widely enjoyed when it came out?

>>211396646
>Hey man, that's his neck

>>211396892
it got cancelled because of low ratings so not really. it hit peak popularity as a cult classic later on when it got put on netflix. during the 2010s it was really widely liked, but the new netflix seasons being trash kind of quashed it.

>>211397084
Were people stupid back then?

>>211397613
ehhh. show was just ahead of its time, I think. the prevailing belief is that it got more popular with streaming because the heavily layered natured of the show, with dense self-referential jokes and call-backs, is better suited for binge watching than weekly tv. there wasn't really anything else like it back then. think of any other sitcom from that era, they were mainly episodic and it didn't really matter if you missed an episode here and there. Arrested Development really required you to catch every episode and remember them too.

>>211397670
That makes sense. Thank you for your genuine and thoughtful answer

>>211396263 (OP)
With all the incest jokes it would've been funny if GOB's first thought upon finding out "hermano" means "brother" was that she was fucking her brother

>Portia
>Charlize
>Jessica
All pure sex

>>211398085
Truest post on /tv/ in a long time

>>211397084
>it got cancelled because of low ratings
Wasn't it just that the network hated it? If they had poor viewership it was because they were shuffled into an awful timeslot because the network hated them and needed to justify cutting the episode orders

>>211398112
probably a factor, but no it didn't really get good ratings. although it did well critically it wasn't pulling numbers. Fox fucking with the timeslot certainly didn't help, but as far as I'm aware that mostly happened after season 1 already failed to perform. after that, Fox basically set it up with no chance to bounce back.

>>211398112
They also got sued by a hip-hop band called Arrested Development.

>>211398330
Chat is this real?

S1 - 10/10
S2 - 10/10
S3 - 8/10

Rest doesn't matter. Honestly, it was cancelled at the right time

>>211396263 (OP)
The objective best live action network sitcom
>constant jokes at every IQ level
>incest jokes
>jew jokes
>comfy bush-era california setting
>every actor is Emmy material
>memes

>>211398381
So many fucking good characters. Currently rewatching it and George Sr. is so perfect. You do get character fatigue midway through season 3 but I mean they stopped after so all is well

>>211396263 (OP)
It's peak reddit.

>>211398497
No

>>211396892
No man. If you asked the average person about the show back when it aired almost bo one heard of it

>>211398497
>Everything I don't like is reddit
A childs guide to posting on 4chan

>>211396263 (OP)
Comedies are supposed to have FUCKING JOKES IN THEM.

>>211398603
What does this even mean?

>>211398620
HABLA INGLES, PACO?

Season 4 (original cut) is up there with the first 3 seasons.
The recut and season 5 are abominations however

>>211398620
Means he's 'tarded.

>>211396867
Underrated, but also sadly dated, so many of the jokes were specific to that time that someone watching for the first time these days would probably miss half of them

>>211396892
It had a dedicated following but fox just didn't understand how to sell the show to people and kept bumping it around to different time slots which affected it's ratings, but as David cross says in some bts footage if a show wins 5 Emmys in its first year and the studio doesn't know how to advertise that to increase ratings then it's the studios fuck up not the shows

>>211398620
It means he was too dumb to get the jokes

>>211398620
No laugh track means he doesn't understand when jokes are being told.

>>211398497
Enjoy nothing

Hate life

>>211398497
kys

>>211396385
I always thought it was "tight-ass country club"

>>211396263 (OP)
test blue myself

>>211397670
yeah, you're constantly barraged with running jokes, a lot go over your head until you've rewatched seasons at least twice (or thrice, at least in my case)

>>211396293
>>211396319
Actually the rot sets in in the third season, the last few episodes are increasingly no good

>>211398497
true, ignore the redditors

>>211398707
the "star wars kid" bit pisses me off every time
it makes me wonder if there are other dated references that don't annoy me simply because I don't recognize them

It's my cozy show.

>>211396867
It has never been underrated. It has only ever been underknown. Every human who has watched it (at least the first 2 or 3 seasons) has loved it. As some other anon has pointed out, it is specific to America in the early 2000s. I don't think anyone born after 2000 would like it, nor do I think a non-English speaker would ever like it.

>>211399319
The "star wars kid" reference was funny. George michael is cringe as hell.

>>211399352
Im ESL thoughbeit and I love it (My English is one of the goodest Englishs in the village I must be the admitter)

>>211398085
>maebe (first season)>>211398330

>>211397670
>the prevailing belief is that it got more popular with streaming because the heavily layered natured of the show, with dense self-referential jokes and call-backs, is better suited for binge watching than weekly tv.
This
Fox should've pushed the DVD harder

plus it was coming in at the start of the lower ratings era and the network probably wasn't adjusted to the new paradigm

>Breaking Bad, S05E10, 2013
>Neilsen: 10.28 million viewers
>considered a massive hit

>Seinfeld, S01E01, 1989
>Neilsen: 15.4 million viewers
>barely gets picked up

>>211399319
There are plenty of references I didn't get. You can usually tell when something is a joke based on the timing and set up. I didn't know "ancient chinese secret huh" was a joke, but it always seemed off. Eventually I found out it was a reference to a commercial. There used to be a website that cataloged literally every joke and reference. I think it disappeared years ago.

>>211397613
It's got nine main characters, very dense with multi-episode callbacks and fast-paced gags
Watch Seinfeld and notice how many times in an episode they repeat the same joke or set-up, to make sure the audience gets it; Arrested Development didn't do that
It was impossible for that show to get good ratings

>>211398745
Alternatively nobody gives a fuck about the Emmys
>Hey, John and Joan Sixpack, why don't you check out this show? It's endorsed five times by literal faggots

>>211398513
>>211398573
>>211398930
>>211398945
>i blue myself xD
>her? XDD
>i swear its a hecking based show just look at gangy mentioning le jews (even though the show was made exclusively by kikes)
just go back

I also think the incest jokes probably hurt it with audiences, it's a family sitcom after all
Wanting to fuck your relatives isn't as relatable an experience as the writers seem to think

>>211399413
People seem to think studio execs have any clue what the fuck they are doing or know what the public will like.
They live in a world far removed from the people they are meant to be selling tv/movies to.
The John Wick doco is an amazing insight into how fucking retarded and out of touch they are. No one wanted the rights to it after seeing the first movie, not even for dirt cheap. Literally needed a big personal multi-million funding injection as an investment from Sofia Vergara of all people to get it over the line.

>>211399489
Its okay to be sad anon. Whats wrong?

>>211399498
God I love Sofia Vergara.

>>211399493
Maybe with your ugly-ass genes

>>211399493
This>>211399700 I am an incredibly handsome man and my sisters are literally the only two people as beautiful on this world.

>>211399498
John Wick stinks though

>what is she doing in a beauty pageant is she running the lights or something?
>no she's a contestant, its a sort of inner beauty pageant
>ah their it is

i love jessica walter so much but i've only seen AD and up to season 3 of Archer
what else should I watch?

>>211399493
>Wanting to fuck your relatives isn't as relatable an experience as the writers seem to think
>It is, Anon's family are just ugly people

Fourth season is kinda shit but the Gob episodes are still kino. Fifth season is just shit and like they forgot that they supposed to be making a comedy.

>tfw you will never play bumpaddle with retarded charlize theron

If Arrested Development is one of your favorite shows, what are some comedies I should watch that have come out since?

>>211400079
Unironically Ssethtzeentachs video game reviews. Start with homm3

>>211400079
30 Rock and Community. Then they stopped making comedies because young women get offended by humor.

>>211396263 (OP)
Nope.

>>211400386
Why lie?

>>211400143
I've seen both. 30 Rock was joke-dense and a must-watch. Community's quality varied quite a bit but it was still worth watching.
Comedy seems to be dead since that era. People have good things to say about Hacks, but I don't know if I can get into it.
Is Veep worth watching?

>>211400419
workaholics until season 3 has cute one liners

>>211399700
>>211399713
I'll have you know I graduated top of my class at modelling school

>>211400419
Veep is meh
The Thick of It is good but the rot starts setting in in season 3
Veep is basically the crappy later seasons of the thick of it

>>211399498
Zappa always summed it up best
https://youtu.be/xP4wsURn3rw?si=ia_Ga6sXdIEU5BML

>>211400419
Veep is alright but the thick of it is better

>>211400143
30 rock is awful

>>211396867
Probably a little memoryholed; it's imo one of the best shows ever to incorporate current events and political humor without being distasteful. Problem is, it also unironically requires a decent IQ and an ability to laugh at oneself. People who cannot take a joke have never enjoyed it when I show it to them, especially those who consider themselves political/cultural crusaders whom I'd expect to appreciate the banter and subtext.

Seinfeld similarly had current event references that are kind of lost to time, so (re)watching with my parents is still fun since they remember different trivia from various eps, but Seinfeld is by far more accessible. I explain references to my zoomer brother for AD now, since a lot of the Iraq war sentiments occurred when he was a baby.

My dad watched it when it aired, but I was like 10 at the time and the humor entirely went over my head. I still remember wondering why he was laughing at the unfunny adult show. Besides him, only my hs teacher had watched, enjoyed, and remembered it, even playing clips of Gob dancing to final countdown in class.

>>211400419
veep is american liberal selfjerk If you like current snl maybe it is for you

>>211399352
ESL here, born in the early 90s and thats easily my favorite TV comedy show of all time, I dont think its hard to "get" at all
On the other hand, I absolutely do not "get" Seinfeld which is supposed to be way more straightforward and I just don't get the hype. I feel like that one is way more dependant on being a New Yorker or even a jew, or at least to have been around such people to really appreciate

>>211400079
I agree with 30 Rock, but thats way more of a "regular" sitcom

The closest thing, or at least the other comedy series I enjoyed as much as AD is the early seasons of Always Sunny, but that just went for way too long and its basically a parody of itself now

>>211398360
>cancelled at the right time
perhaps you're too young to have experienced this first hand, but fox did everything they could to sabotage it while it was airing due to complete incompetency, much as fox was known for doing at the time. it could have had 5 great seasons without the cast aging up 10 years between 3 and 4

>>211401648
There's a reason why Friends and Frasier were huge all over the world while no one with a foreskin has ever cared about Seinfeld.

>>211397084
>it hit peak popularity as a cult classic later on when it got put on netflix
Zoomer retard. It got popular when it was released on DVD and everyone could see how wrong the network was about the show.

>>211398396
That's out of context

>>211402990
Friends maybe, no one knows what the fuck Frasier is outside of muttland

>>211400004
>she had the mental capacities of a 6yo you sick fuck

>>211404294
>He said he was going to come after somebody stupid in our family, he could be talking about Buster!
>Could be Gob

>>211400079
Darkplace is one of the only shows I've seen that's matched the density of jokes per minute but there's only six episodes because Bongistan

Keep resetting the timer, dicks.

>>211404619
never seen police squad?

>>211404619
30 rock is one of the few 22 minute shows that matches it. So does most PFFR content.

>>211398660
Kys

>>211399443
Seinfeld is for literal retard boomers though. Its the equivalent to big gangbang theory

>>211399834
It is schlock but its also a keanu action movie with a couple half secent scenes and a reddit meme plot. If you cant see that making bank you are retard of an executive

>>211400079
Childrens hospital and eagleheart, the former even has cera

For me, Jessica Walters was a top 5 celebrity death that actually hurt when I heard about it

>>211404619
30 rock and Veep match it. Both are brilliant.

>>211401402
what a horrifically awful opinion

>>211396646
>>211396385
>>211396360
i have a theory that Franklin is possessed by a demon
>seems to take over whomever is currently using them
>can convince people to do things (jedi mind trick type shit)
>can cause the user to act out
>causes mental fog to those around him
>can cause actual reactions of anger and violence
>once they stop using Franklin, they seem to snap out of their trance in a state of confusion

>>211405531
It isn't an opinion, it's a fact. It also sucks because the title is too close to 3rd Rock which is actually good

>>211400979
That's all well and good but Zappa leaves out the effect of copyright law: as time went on, the back catalog got bigger, and made up a bigger share of revenue, so it increasingly made sense to focus resources on securing and extending that back catalog
Hence record labels bought music publishers, big labels bought small labels, they lobbied politicians to extend copyright periods, etc
The back catalog is free money, it markets itself
It would be interesting to compare record label income in 2025 vs. 1965 and see the relative proportions of income generated from back catalog vs new material

>>211400079
Don't listen to most of these repliers. If you're looking for live action comedies I consider these to be on the same or close tier:
>30 Rock
>It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia
>Veep
>Silicon Valley for the first 3-4 seasons
>Curb Your Enthusiasm
>Peep Show (very different style but very very good)

>>211402990
>I don't want to watch a show about Jews in New York
>Think I'll watch Friends instead

>>211405686
Friends has Jews, Seinfeld is offensively Jewish in every possible way.

>>211400079
Not the same as A.D., I've finished the first season of Patriot. It's a dry humor and without current day shenanigans shoe-horned in like most show. I'm just starting the 2nd season now.

>>211405611
Makes sense

>>211397613
> back then

>>211406004
someone here (probably you) convinced me to watch this and it's actually horseshit, highly recommended avoid

>>211399888
it doesn't have her in it, but archer felt like AD and frisky dingo had a baby

>>211405652
>Silicon Valley for the first 3-4 seasons
awesome show but also it got extremely tiring how formulaic the plot always was the way they set up the emotion scene and then have a payoff every season over and over and never change it up. I agree the last seasons are the worst. also the finale is terrible

I sunk the boat!