>artillery and bombs don't work on the zombies because..... they just don't okay!
would a faithful adaptation actually been better?

>>211415898 (OP)
It'd work better as a mini series than a movie

The book is kind of silly though too

I read the book because everyone kept saying how good is. It's ok, but come on, the stories in it are not better or more original than pretty much any zombie movie.

>>211415898 (OP)
>been better
Than what? The shitty unfinished movie no one likes? Probably.

>>211416436
They are more original. Stop being a moron. The idea is looking at a plausible zombie apocalypse from every perspective possible all around the world. From a shut-in in Japan, to a submarine crew, to Cubans, to south americans and africans. All things you don't get in generic american single view zombie flicks. And to see the story from well before it starts, the slow begininngs, the collapse, enduring it, the slow victory, then rebuilding. Again, things that aren't normally included in zombie flicks. It's good becUse of how thorough it is. And the audiobook is even better with a full voice cast and music.

>>211417090
Go to bed, Max. And tell your father I'm looking forward to Space Balls 2.

>>211415898 (OP)
The terminal ballistics and nature of explosives when used against the zombies are explained pretty well. They don’t work by destroying the brain irl. They pump you full of shrapnel or fuck you up with a shockwave/sudden serve trauma. Zombie brains aren’t hurt by any of that. Also the cost of using those weapons is impractical when compared to a well drilled team of men using the new weapons.

>>211416436
It has one major thing going for it, which is a decent amount of stories of the societal breakdown and chaos. Most zombie movies/shows either skip that or give a few cursory scenes or flashbacks, but I think it's way more interesting than the same tire post-apocalypse "hUMans R teh ReAL mONsTerS" stories we usually see

I hope Leon is in re9

>>211417090
Oh yes, a zombie apocalypse so plausible that all the attempts at explaining how the zombie virus works just sounds like powerscaler ramblings trying to justify how decaying normie mallwalkers are the bestest monster.

>>211418082
That was the dumbest part of the book as blowing zombies into a thousand pieces would obviously stop them. If shrapnel to the brain doesn't stop them then neither would stabs pr shots to the head.

>>211418082
>fuck you up with a shockwave/sudden serve trauma.
Also known as destroying the brain

>>211415898 (OP)
Is your immersion suffering because his magic walking corpses aren't like your REAL magic walking corpses? It's a decent book, a good audiobook and would make for a fucking amazing radioplay.

I'd love to see it adapted as a mini-series with a crew of documentary filmmakers traveling around the world, collecting these stories and solving the small mysteries associated with them, like that woman digging up the bones of cannibalised campers. A few stories could be cut quite easily, but there are others that have such a realistic feeling to them that they almost film themselves. The throughline throughout the series would be Todd Wainio, doing his rambling disgruntled vet thing, segueing into interviews around issues that explain the whole disaster from the start. I'd love to see the more controversial figures start to sweat as the interviewer presses them with increasingly difficult questions that cut to the heart of their decision-making and character. The Zombie War by Tom Holroyd is heavily inspired by the format and covers Britain, re-treading some ground as the French perspective. I'd like to see an SBS diver bonding with French militia over operating in flooded tunnels. Having excerpts by Paul Redeker play to explain the thinking of political leaders, then revealing who he is half way through would be interesting.

>>211418082
>>artillery and bombs don't work on the zombies because..... they just don't okay!
Lol

>>211417090
>And the audiobook is even better with a full voice cast and music
You ended a perfect post with that gay shit. Theater fag audio plays are the worst.

>>211415898 (OP)
>>>/lit/ is that way
The movie literally shares the title with that piece of shit, so I fail to see your argument. Making it faithful would make the movie even fucking worse, and it was probably the most forgettable big budget zombie media till, dunno, Army of the Dead?

>>211420246
>Is your immersion suffering because his magic walking corpses aren't like your REAL magic walking corpses?
No dipass. My immersion is suffering because his real artillery, bombs, and gun aren't like my real artillery bombs and guns. One of the goofier parts is when he describes the Air Force as being basically useless, because there are no big targets to bomb, but in another chapter describes huge herds of zack roaming the country. Which is it? it's a book that invites the reader to thoughtfully consider it's zombie apocalypse, but doesn't stand up to that thoughtful scrutiny.

>>211415898 (OP)
literal goyslop designed to train Americans to worship Israel

>>211420696
>there are no big targets to bomb
Early on in the war with lots of air assets, but highly distributed zombie populations
>huge herds of zack roaming the country
Later in the war when they have almost no air assets.

>>211415898 (OP)
Artillery literally would not work on a zombie horde though.

Imagine an APC or a modern battle tank just driving through a crowd of them. Even if you didn't totally pulp the ones in front of the treads, you'd be totally breaking every bone and limb on all the others to render them essential non-hostile until armored clean up crews follow up.

>>211421724
what about napalm or some shit like that? I mean sure, the fires would spread but if hordes have already formed then rebuilding is already something to consider.

>>211418082
you literally just repeated what the greentext in the op said

>>211422984
No, the greentext implied it's not explained, just doesn't work, and should be mocked as a plot hole. Instead Op should be mocked since it's thoroughly explained and plausible enough for a zombie story. You should be mocked for being such a doofus.

>>211421961
In the survival guide it says fire is pretty effective, but you've got to make sure they stay contained, otherwise you just have shambling torches before they'd cook enough for the brain to start boiling. It suggests trenches you could line with some pitch or gasoline.

>>211423804
the problem is that explosives within a certain range 100% fatally rupture the brain just like they do every other organ. the level of concussive damage capable of causing a lethal coup-contra-coup injury are present even in hand grenades

that isn't even mention that a zombie with compound fractures in every limb would be rendered completely immobile and more than enough would either be incinerated to nothing or would be mangled to the point they would never be able to see, hear, smell, or bite anybody

to say shambling hordes of zombies that can only infect you through bodily fluids would beat the US military is simply cope no matter how you put it. the armed civilian populace alone could handle it. you'd either have to have a walking dead situation, something airborne that drops waves of genetically unlucky people day 1, or they'd have to be fast and/or raging zombies ala 28 days later or black summer

OH MY ISRAEL
PLEASE SAVE US DUMB CATTLE

>>211418659
Bombs don't kill that many. Most of the deaths are in the concussive blast. Sure wherever the bomb immediately blows you'll damage some zombies and blow them apart, but most of them aren't gonna be phased. We die to shrapnel and blood loss and being hit with waveblasts and injuries. A zombie (these ones anyway) do not. That ruins a big portion of its utility.

>>211421724
>Artillery literally would not work on a zombie horde though.
On behalf of... what, exactly?
Why do you think we've ten different artillery systems that are called "grid erasers"?
>b-but brains
Nigger, artillery barrage leaves fucking NOTHING out of a fucking tank caught in a crossfire, even if it was all HE, and we are talking about human bodies. The fact they are standing and not even trying to duck makes it even more devastating, because more body to turn into vapor than if they were laying flat on the ground

>>211418082
>The terminal ballistics and nature of explosives when used against the zombies are explained pretty well
You mean "A clueless civilian with no idea what a HE round does to an entire squad caght by it wrote "it wont work on zombies, trust me bro""

Most deaths from artillery and bombs are due to the living human body being extremely damaged from small pieces of shrapnel tearing through your torso, and the shockwave of explosives causing internal bleeding and damage to your head by basically bouncing your brain around your skull

Most zombies, including the ones in that book, are depicted as being completely fine unless you severely damage their brain or remove it from its connection to the body. Slightly damaging it or damaging the body is mostly meaningless. They aren’t going to bleed to death, or get infections, or have brain damage, their brain is already “dead” and has no higher function really

Of course this doesn’t make much sense scientifically but neither does most sci fi and people don’t seem to nitpick those as much.

Personally I always found zombies like the ones from 28 days later way more interesting than the Romero style zombies. Where it’s much more like some hyper rabies infection and the infected can just die from being shot, but you also have interesting angles to take like certain people being resistant or immune, or perhaps “smart” ones who can control themselves much more and are more dangerous

It’s one thing I hope to see in 28 years later. They established in the first movie that the infected are so single minded in just attacking people they don’t even eat food regularly. So they starve to death sooner than later. The sequel also still had heavy association with Danny Boyle so I’m assuming it’s canon, and that featured a “smart, infected in Robert Carlyle. And two people who were infected but only carriers, not showing typicalal symptoms

Hoping 28 years later has some kind of society ran by smarter infected, since 99% of infected would be dead by this point from just starving. Only the ones smart enough to eat and not run around naked would be alive still

Maybe this bone garden is something they built

>>211424258
NOOOO! EVERYTHING IN THIS ZOMBIES STORY HAS TO WORK EXACTLY AS I SAY IT DOES AND BE REALISTIC! I TOTALLY DEBUNKED IT AND PROVED THIS ZOMBIE WRITER IS A HACK! BETTER LUCK NEXT TIME HAHA!

>>211424572
Also maybe the infected realised they need to let the human settlements stay alive because when you think about it, the infected have the vampire dilemma, they can’t just infect everybody or they’d go extinct from no new infected appearing

If the smart infected have kids, most likely the baby/kids would be violent from birth and end up dying from refusing to eat, acting recklessly etc. easiest way to “reproduce” from a infected perspective is thus to let new humans be born and grow up, then occasionally capture and infect them

>>211424572
>Hoping 28 years later has some kind of society ran by smarter infected, since 99% of infected would be dead by this point from just starving
That's what makes the whole idea of that movie retarded. You have a zombie plague that kills its victims by simple means of dehydration and exhaustion, closely followed by starvation. That's why 28 weeks had to literally generate its own zombie population just to get the plot moving, or else there are no zombies in 3 months.
And we are talking about a movie titled 28 YEAR later.
See a problem here?

>>211424091
The book outright says they did damage and fucked the horde up. The thing is that it doesn't do enough. There was basically a city coming at them and they dumped the fire on the first wave, cutting off the head of the snake while the body was still coming. The dude outright says it should have been easy but the brass made a lot of really bad mistakes at Yonkers and the dudes there panicked when shit got out of control.

>>211415898 (OP)
Its not they dont work, it doesnt cause shock and awe, and while you can obliterate large swathes of zombies with them, they will just keep coming to the point it becomes a danger close situation.

>>211424612
>Writer is actually a hack
>To the point he openly admits it, because he never expected anyone would take him serious
>Except for his fanboys that are still fighting for the lost cause.
Son, are you by chance from Georgia?

>>211424572
28 Days zombies are only interesting in the small scale. There's no believable way they'd ever amount to catastrophic disaster level or some global outbreak. But for cities or small locations, it'd great.

To get the apocalypse level, they have to be magical and supernaturally resistant to damage and decay

>>211424714
How is it retarded? It explained the issue in introducing asymptomatic carriers.

Doesn’t seem any more contrived than animal rights activists stumbling onto rage infected monkeys that scientists were creating for some reason

>>211418659
You didnt understand what he was going for. Many zombies would be eliminated from the attack, but there is a shit ton more behind them that will keep going and not every single zombie involved in the explosion will be eliminated which, some will be ripped in half and still be able to pull their bodies along the ground, also he talks about the possibility of bullets hitting the head but not entering the skull, which can and has happened, also you need to fully destroy the brain, not partially.

>>211424806
Or hit the mainland somehow. Then it could be global. And as it disperses it does just become essentially a kind of rabies.

>>211424806
>There's no believable way they'd ever amount to catastrophic disaster level or some global outbreak

How about the asymptomatic infected we are shown in 28 weeks later?

Suddenly completely healthy seeming people are escaping the infected, then one kiss or cough fucks up everybody once somebody is infected near them and starts biting

We will have to wait for the movie but it wouldn’t surprise me if most of the world is infected but perhaps the USA or the Americas in general is fine

>>211421961
Now you have zombies with sticky fire running at you. It would eventually melt them down to nothing, but until then you are dealing with fire zombies

>>211424730
>Bones being broken
>Joints being destroyed
>Limbs are being severed
>B-but they live!
... yes, and?
This is literally what you get from civilians writing anything related with military. Not just habitually shitting on it to own The Man, but being genuinely clueless on what happens when a .50 or 155 mm meets a pack of human bodies and what's the aftermath of that. They don't exactly show the photos of it (unless it's The Happening) and they don't do that in media to avoid NC-17 rating, so then you've got people who think than it's not a big deal being shot with a handgun, not to mention HMG or a mortar barrage.
I thin there is like ONE zombie movie that acknowledges the distinction between "disabled the attacker" and "killed the attacker". That would be the Korean "#Alive", and it was made by people who all went through mandatory conscription, many of them in the artillery at that.

>>211424806
>>211424955
Maybe the virus can be carried by animals too, the animals just don’t show symptoms

>>211425014
Why would zombies care about having broken bones?

They don’t feel pain, go watch a video of somebody on PCP, when you don’t feel pain you can just punch your hand through a car window, having broken bones or shredding your flesh doesn’t actually stop you from moving

>>211424955
It turns people too fast and the zombies are too fragile. The usual zombie stories have them immune to so much. But Rage Infected would die just to blood loss, starvation, dehydration, heat stroke, etc. Survivors would easily just walk out hike them in the wilderness. Whereas "normal" zombies are seen as perpetually walking and inescapable. It only works in small, isolated settings, which is not a bad thing. Still plenty scary.

>>211424572
The 28 series zombies are humans who contracted super rabies, these "zombies" are much more dangerous than walking dead zombies, as walking dead zombies would completely decompose within a couple of months, faster in hotter climates, slower in colder climates, but are slower moving in cold weather. Unless the zombies are brought back via magic, and not some virus, walking dead zombies would end themselves in months

>>211418659
>blowing zombies into a thousand pieces
You people should probably read the book, its a pretty light read. Perfect book to keep next to the toilet because a chapter takes about as long to read as it takes to shit.
The problem wasn't that artillery and bombs and shit didn't work, but that they weren't nearly as effective against zombies as they are humans. Any sane creature, after seeing the shock and awe of an entire bridge full of their people getting blasted to fucking bits would start to remove their will to resist. But zombies are dumb, they just go towards the nearest person.
The military was set up for a photo op expecting things to be a cake walk, and when it ended up not going according to plan people started to freak out and discipline collapsed, and it happened when things were already past the inflection point, and the sheer mass of hordes multiplying across the country mad the kind of supply lines needed to maintain stealth bombers and tanks with hyper advanced shells was severely impaired.
When they regrouped and consolidated they were able to adapt their tactics.
And even if they could carpet bomb new york city, or bumfuck iowa at this point you've potentially got plenty of people/citizens/innocents just holing up and trying to survive. And even then you're bombing and shelling your own cities, you're not denying the enemy anything, you're just shooting yourself in the foot to cure your athletes foot.

>>211424953
>You didnt understand what he was going for
And you don't understand what an artillery barrage is.
Hell, you don't understand what a machine gun emplacement is
>b-but they will just keep coming!
... yes, and? You can literally erase everything within 200 acres with a SINGLE barrage from M270. You reload it in about 4 minutes, to erase another such area.
You do that from the distance of 20 miles.

Which is like the key reason why shambler zombies NEVER make sense as apocalypic force taking down the society. It just doesn't.

>>211425106
>Why would zombies care about having broken bones?
Because when both of your legs are shattered, you can't fucking walk, you imbecile.
Physically impossible, since there is no skeletal support of the rest of the body, you dumb shit.
Not to mention being in any way torn apart

I mean how fucking dum are you, really?

>>211425014
>That would be the Korean "#Alive"
Man, that finale was great
>Destroying the brain? Lmao, watch this kid
>Entire crowd is being shred apart with machine fine, stopping them cold
>They just powerlessly twitch on the roof, unable to move due to the whole body trauma
>Who gives a fuck they aren't exactly dead-dead, if they can't stand, not to mention follow a god-damn chopper

>>211425205
You dont seem to grasp the sheer numbers coming at you, thats the point of WWZ is the sheer number of zombies people are facing. They didnt understand this so the first attack failed miserably, your attack would work perfectly fine at a distance, yes, but in the book they treated them like a normal human army marching at them, launched their attacks stupid late, and then it became a danger close situation. The book takes place AFTER the events of everything, I think 5 ot 10 years after the events, the humans learned they need to keep their space and eventually basically wiped out the zombie threat, the only remaning zombies are basically ones that got frozen over winter and thaw in the spring.

>>211425205
>what a machine gun emplacement is
Also this is in the books, they had a massive horde if zombies marching in the desert, so humans basically formed old school line formation far away from them and just unloaded an ungodly amout if ammo onto the horde stopping them, again the book is about how the humans handle the threat, how they failed at first as they didnt know their enemy, and once they did they enemy didnt stabd a chance. I agree shambling zombies not made from magic sucks because if you can hold our for 3 months, a mass majority of the zombies would have decayed to a point they are no longer a threat, accept maybe in high grass where you can potentially step in the mouth of a zombie.

>>211418082
>Also the cost of using those weapons is impractica
Fucking what? Go look up how many artillery shells were fired during WW1 & WW2 do you think the US government would give a fuck? Max brooks is a retarded jew with no concept of reality. Do you know why countries have "the tomb of the unknown soldier"? Its to honor all the troops who were turned into fucking paste by artillery. I think it would work jist fine agaisnt zombies

>>211425468
>Retard goes full retard
Thanks for making it absolutely fucking clear you live in the world of pop-culture, when everyone has to live in the real one.
But I will give you a clue:
A single shell from a single howitzer with HE round is capable of evaporating everything in the range of 10 yards in every direction. It then sends absolutely fatal shrapnel over five times greater area, and still dangerous shrapnel over thrice of that.
It can do that from the range of 15 miles, three rounds per minute.
A battery, the basic unit for those, has six guns.

And I'm talking most basic, primitive artillery out there.
While in your fucked up brain the fact everything in the radius of 10 yards CEASED TO EXIST doesn't matter, because "um, there are millions of them".
Good. That makes them easier to hit. Would be tough to effectively use artillery if there were like 100 of them. But a million of slowly walking humans? That's like the field day for any battery, not to mention actual, concentrated effort
>b-but Brooks
Brooks has no fucking idea how artillery or even man-carried firearms works. I mean he published his book in what? 2005? And he was STILL doing the Vietnam era "M16 is terrible" spiel, when even the stanchest detractors admitted by then that AR-15 is easily one of the better guns out there.

>>211425977
You would die in the WWZ universe immediately.

>>211426034
Great argument.
Doesn't make Brooks any less of a clueless retard, but I stand up and clap to your argument.

>>211425891
>how they failed at first as they didnt know their enemy
This is that thing that white guys struggle hard with. Like asking them how they'd feel if they didn't eat breakfast this morning
>Imagine if you didn't know what a zombie was. That's how the characters in the story are
>BUT I DO KNOW WHAT A ZOMBIE IS!

>>211425265
>Because when both of your legs are shattered, you can't fucking walk, you imbecile.
They make a point to talk about how that ends up being a liability later on. The intact zombies mostly shamble upright and are pretty visible, but the zombies who got blasted in half end up crawling and are hard to see in rubble and tall grass.
But the point is a zombie doesn't have any self preservation instincts. It's not going to consider consequences.

>>211426034
Is that the universe where laws of physics don't apply, including Newton's third law of motion, rendering artillery and firearms ineffective and useless due to their lack of stopping power?
Which makes you wonder why people in that universe bothered to develop those weapons. And why they don't work, but a random kid with a machete is a killing machine.
Oh, right, it's the universe of fiction, where whatever the autor writes down is true.

>>211426069
>Doesn't make Brooks any less of a clueless retard
Not that anon, but If you want to have a zombie apocalypse you've got to suspend your disbelief a little, its not real, and even if it was it wouldn't turn into a zombie apocalypse because reality is just too boring and it would be dealt with. Like I don't get mad at a ghost movie as being unrealistic because I don't believe in ghosts.
And either way, it does a better job than most zombie fiction has done about trying to show how it goes from a small scale problem to a global one.
If the army just saves the day, no big deal, then that's a pretty boring story.

>>211426069
You legit think you could take on an army of 10 million plus marching at you, an unrelenting army, mind you, all because you go to the /k/ board, hahaha. Look kid, you can get all ass blasted about it, and I even said that, yes, once the humans stop treating the zombies like humans and changed their tactics they started to easily eliminate the threat, the issue is at first the humans didnt respect their enemy and legit went into the first few major conflicts with your mentality of
>Yea but we have the guns, all the guns, how can we lose?
Thats the funniest thing about your post.

>>211418082

Would a shock wave not produce massive trauma to a brain? Zombie or not

>>211426114
... yes, and?
Look, let me make this easy for you:
>You have a million of humans walking toward you, they plan to eat you and they are armed with their own hands
>You blast them into thin pink mist
>You now have 900 thousand bodies in different states of destruction that oppose no actual danger to anyone, because they are unable to move properly, or at all
>HURRR THEY ARE DANGER!
... how?
... why?
What's going to happen to you now? Are you in fear of being overrun? Physically overrun? Are in in fear of being grabbed? Are you in fear of being in any way attacked? Can they even walk away or even crawl away?
All you now have to do is literally clear the place of the scraps. A detail that can be handled by bunch of guys from Engineering corp with bulldozers, and then you make a big pyre of the remains.

You know what's the dumbest part?
Brooks was very open this is a pastiche and work of fiction. He repeatively prefaced any talk about his book that it's just a riff on pop-culture.
It's been 20 years, and here you are, taking that book at face value, and ignoring how things actually are, just to try to defend something its own creator isn't even trying to defend.
Like what the fuck is wrong with you?

>>211426198
All physics apply, I dont get where your getting they dont? Again a large missle attack can work, but not when you let a massive, im talking million strong army basically walk right up to you before lauching the first attacks because you treat them like humans, and not mindless, fearless foes.

>>211426323
>You legit think you could take on an army of 10 million plus marching at you
Yes.
The difference being: I actually served in the military. Combat deployment included. I know what happens to a human body after different kind of things hit it at different velocity.
You meanwhile have no idea. None at all. You think that person being shot just stands there, because that's how it's in the movies (unless it's a cheesy B-movie, then they are send flying back few feet away).
I mean you ever heard about the concept of the stopping power of a firearm? Not killing. Stopping.

>>211426535
>Yes
>The difference being: I actually served in the military.
You could not hold off an army of 10 million zombies regardless of how much ammo you have, shut the fuck up. I dont care if your the living embodiment of Rambo, you will NOT fight off an army of 10 million zombies. Dumbest fucking take ever.

>>211426114
Wtf just wear steal toe boots with high ankles. A crawling half zombie grabs you, cant bite through boots then pop it in the head at point blank

>>211426479
>I dont get where your getting they dont
If all laws of physics apply, why artillery barrage against unarmoured, unprotected and not even trying to hide human-sized target doesn't work? Especially when it's a packed crowd?
If all laws of physics apply, why a human-sized target shot with a .50 round isn't thrown to the ground thanks to the velocity of the round and its size hitting said human-sized target?
If all laws of physics apply, why a 50 tons bullldozer with the net power of 310 kN is unable to literally push through a crowd of human-sized objects, squashing under its threads any that don't get pushed by the dozer's blade?
... do I really need to continue?

>>211426680
That's literally part of the updated army uniform.
Seriously you illiterate dipshit, just read the fucking book. The words are printed nice and big. Unfortunately there are no pictures, but I have faith you can do it.

>>211426680
Again, people adapted and did this. Is it not clicking? THE BOOK IS ABOUT HUBRIS OF MAN AND ALSO THE ADAPTABILITY OF MAN

WWZ is still the best zombie media ever produce. It's hilarious how much it makes dorks seethe. They, of course, know everything there is to know about zombies and could have defeated them easily on day one.

>>211426763
They do apply, but unless the zombies brains are severely destroyed they will just get back up and keep coming. You shoot a .50 cal into the head of a zombie, that zombie is 100% incapacitated, you shoot a .50 cal into the chest of a zombie, it will knock it to the ground, will have a gaping hole in its chest, but will just get back up, or crawl or do anything it can to move towards you until the brain is mostly destroyed. You cant apply what happens to a living human to a mindless zombies that is being controlled by a parasite that is tapping into the most basic aspects of the brain, and understand these parasite exist irl, but they control movement and all they want to do is bite someone so infected bodily fluid gets into a new host.

>>211426664
>an army of 10 million zombies
How tightly they are packed?
Let's assume a light crowd of 1 person per square yard. So that gives me what? 5000 zombies per acre?
Meaning I need a battery of M270s (9 pieces). I don't even need to reload them. I just covered with artillery fire entire area of your army. Army that isn't shooting back, army that isn't hiding or trying to, and it i merely walking toward me.
The tighter you pack them, the easier and more efficient it is to remove them this way
And whatever comes out of that barrage - if it can move at all - can be sustained with another barrage.
I don't even need to get close to them, since, again, I've got 20 miles of effective range.

Which is why Brooks is clueless, but you are an idiot for not realising how this shit works and at this point malding, thinking this is some kind of personal duel of a single soldier (like in the movies) and not an actual concentrated military effort of, wait for it, a single fucking battery. An artillery battalion has three of those. There are no smaller artillery units than that, meaning I have a fucking overkill right from the start.

>>211426836
>The book is about clueless Jewish civilian shitting on the military

>>211425052
>kisame...we're leaving

>>211427048
>will just get back up and keep coming
With broken limbs and all?
>it will knock it to the ground
That's all the effect I need.
>but will just get back up
With broken spine that now doesn't provide support to the torso above the point where the body was hit?
>or crawl or do anything it can to move towards you
Ok, but why am I supposed to be terrified of something that can't even stand up, and it's only mode of attack is grabbing me and trying to eat me?
>want to do is bite someone
Am I barefoot? Again, why should I be afraid of something that can't walk anymore

Are you literally, ironically teen-aged?

>>211421724
>>artillery and bombs don't work on the zombies because..... they just don't okay!

>>211427264
you're really dumb kek, but as all dumb people acting like you have it all figured out and made up the perfect headcanon. Yep bro, you figured it all out, zombies ain't real. You win!

>>211426312
>Not that anon, but If you want to have a zombie apocalypse you've got to suspend your disbelief a little,
You actually don't.
You do need to do that with only shambler-style zombies.
28 days later? Fucking terrifying. Dawn remake? Even worse, since they are undead on top of running. The Sadness? Instant suicide material, because they have full mental capacity of a human being, and it's airborne, so just shoot yourself while you still can.
... but shamblers? You need to just say to the audience 'the world went to shit, accept it", because it's not going to work otherwise. Romero tried really hard (unlike everyone else) and it was never convincing. Which is why his very first movie ends with humans simply curbing zombie outbreak in the bud.

>>211427376
>but as all dumb people acting like you have it all figured out and made up the perfect headcanon
Ironic, given you are defending headcanon that isn't even yours.
Also: trying to NOW act like this is all fictional situation is kind of dumb, don't you think? Especially after all the effort you put to prop up it as a real and physics-applicant

>MANGEKYOU SHARINGAN

>>211426664
>, you will NOT fight off an army of 10 million zombies

>>211426955
WWZ has the weirdest fandom imaginable, that consists of people who fellate to a failed satire, but get extra defensive when anyone dares as much as question the nonsense presented in that book. Even weirder when you consider that the original audience for it is in heir 40s now, so they are literal manchildren throwing temper tantrums about their favourite piece of media not being given proper respect.

>>211427393
>28 days later?
Not zombies.
Besides which now you're just trying to argue semantics. Whenever someone says "zombie" the archetypical image that comes to mind is romero shambling undead. Anything else you have to equivocate with "fast zombies" or "rage virus."
And we're also talking about WWZ, which has zombies that follow those rules. You don't have to like it, but if you have a problem with it, take it up with the author.

>>211426955
>Point Battle of Yonkers, the in-universe organised, military reaction made some weeks after the cat is out of the bag and everyone is fighting zombies rather than trying to figure out what the fuck is even going on, makes no sense whatsoever
>Oh so you've got it all figured out, you dork!?
Yes, I do. I'd go as far as say that at such stage, even a ROTC alumni is capable of figuring that out, and they are some of the most dense motherfuckers out there
Stay mad that once again people are dabbing at Brooks.

>>211415898 (OP)
>Headshots suddenly stop working on zombies
>Leading to soldiers panicking and losing their shit, fleeing and getting themselves killed.

>>211427878
I actually considered posing "missing the point" image, but then I realised you aren't missing it at all - you are doing this on purpose.

>>211427102
You are pointless person to have a conversation with, huh?
>>211427153
Yeah, but Brooks is a jew, what can you expect
>>211427264
>With broken limbs and all?
Yes, they are a zombie, until the brain is mostly destroyed they will keep moving, and if they cant move they will still be animated
>That's all the effect I need.
Dropping them and running is a good tactic and wont argue with that, but it will stumble back to its feet at some point.
>With broken spine that now doesn't provide support to the torso above the point where the body was hit?
The zombie will still be animated, even if it cant move, it will just lay there moaning until it decomposes, of brain destroyed.
>Ok, but why am I supposed to be terrified of something that can't even stand up, and it's only mode of attack is grabbing me and trying to eat me?
At first it would be kinda crazy to hear people getting attacked by zombies hidden in high grass, but again this is addressed in the book and people adapted and so no the fear factor is diminished by alot.
>Am I barefoot? Again, why should I be afraid of something that can't walk anymore
.... Im not going to say it again.
>Are you literally, ironically teen-aged?
Brah, you lack any reading comprehension, and reasoning. I keep answering your questions and yet nothing sticks.

Realistically artillery would never even come into the equation because a single heavy machine gun or rotary cannon would obliterate zombies by the thousands per minute, no matter how much zombie nerds cope. A single shot to center mass would be lights out for the central nervous system of a zombie and the dozen other zombies standing behind it.

>>211428047
They work.
But you must use M14 and M1 carbine for that. They stop working if you use anything of the AR-15 family.
Don't ask question, just consume the product

>>211428111

>>211428097
>Can't face actual argument
>P-personal, aren't you
Keep malding

Also
>Brah, you lack any reading comprehension, and reasoning.
Ironic

>>211427639
Sigh... Sound like Biden

>>211428181
I accept your concession.

>>211428126
You missed my sarcasm. There were moments where scared soldiers aimed for the heads but only grazed them. They called out on their radios that headshots no longer worked. The misinformation spread and lead to more panicking soldiers.

>>211428261
>Makes no arguments whatsoever
>Get pointed out
>NOOO! YOU LOST!

Go back to >>211427102 and answer the argument, or you're a faggot nigger that has no clue what he's even talking about

>>211428282
You meanwhile missed the point, despite it being directly stated to you.

>Russia is a black hole

>>211428331
Keep crying the concession was accepted.

>>211427878
>which has zombies that follow those rules
What rules?
The rules where two different guns firing the same caliber rounds work on them differently?
The rules where a swing of a machete is lethal, but artillery strike is not?
The rules where air recon is impossible against something that doesn't try to hide itself?
Those are some very weird and very arbitrary rules, mate

>>211428126
Zombies work like I SAY THEY DO! Got it?!

>>211418082
The way it should have written is that the outbreak caught the United States by surprise and fucked up production capacity for munitions so that there wouldn’t be nearly enough explosives to take care of tens of millions of walkers.

>>211428780
.............that is exactly what happened in the book.

>>211428780
>I have no idea how fuck-huge the stockpile is
If you must go full retard, just set it during the ongoing war, so the army is kind of busy already and deployed elsewhere.
Still won't make walking dead (heh) dangerous, but you gave it a shot

>>211428856
We are arguing with /k/ fags who couldn't do a single pull up if all their airsoft guns were put on the line. Image related

>>211428856
Probably but the explanations were too light and the real geopolitical shit is hand waved to the point where it’s not realistic to an adult level reader. I wanted to see the military win a few victories and then watch in horror as their M777’s slowly become useless because nobody procured enough barrels.

>2025
>WWZ thread
>on /tv/
>people argue with passion
>and over the book, not the movie
... what the fuck?

>>211429217
The movie is dog shit and nothing like the book at all.

>>211418280
The nice thing about spreading the story out is that you can tell all kinds of stories, some are definitely stronger than others. But I know the chapter about the feral kid I had to read the chapter a few times before I cottoned on to what was actually happening, and how it gets brought up later when the soldier talks about finding that church later on.
But since its a story where civilization survives you can still have silver linings, people adapting and changing, learning lessons, and rebuilding.

>>211429265
That's not the confusing part. It's that the book happened before average /tv/ard was born

>>211429363
Its gets posted frequently because its used so /k/ fags can shit post. Just skim the thread, and what you see is what is usually inside a WWZ thread.

>>211415898 (OP)
that movie made me go what teh shit, why did they fight so hard to get the rights of this movie to do something totally different, forget the rules and constraints it had set up as the fundation of the whole fantasy and just fucking do willy nilly as if they just bought the title of the fucking book.

>>211425106
>>211426114
>>211428097
>Anon genuinely unable to grasp what broken bones are and how they affect movement
>While thinking inability to feel pain is in any way helpful to deal with said broken bones

>>211415898 (OP)
No. There is no plausible way to present slow ass zombies as a threat to the military of any advanced nation. Even the 28 days infected wouldn't work outside of a shitty disarmed country like Britain.

felt like posting some clips based on the audiobook
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1749865524379110.webm

https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1749865591647691.webm

https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1749865658294351.webm

>>211429548
From what was leaked, the movie was a legal shitshow and then also a massive execs battleground. End result was everyone in the crew and cast being unhappy about it.
Ironically, the product placement scene is the only good one in the whole thing

>>211429550
>Legit thinks people cant move due to a broken bone what so ever
This anon is going to roll his ankle during the apocalypse and just lay there and give up, hahaha

>>211429552
They at least get a sliver of plausability because (a) they are fast as fuck and (b) they are super-virulent, so they multiply like crazy. So before any military can be put to proper response, you already have hundreds of thousands of murderous maniacs and more to come every hour

>>211417090
yeah most zombie stuff you never get to a good ending or a solution whatsoever, the book is good, I dunno what the fuck that movie was though, just hollywood slop

>>211429711
Fresh zombies from any universe would be stupid fast. Our brain acts likes a governor limiting our bodies full potential, bur if thats removed, a 300lbs fat ass could run as fast as trained sprinter, but this will results in muscles and ligaments tearing thus slowing them down.

>>211429652
>Legit thinks having shattered bones allow to still move
But at least you've made it clear you don't know the difference between having broken and shattered bones, so I guess it stands to reason why you shrug it off as a non-factor.
Do you by chance have a large pillow around? Stand on one leg, bend the other to touch your butt with your feet. Then use the pillow as a "support" replacing your "missing" shin.
Then try to put pressure on that pillow, as if standing on it.
That's about the amount of support a mangled leg would provide. It's still there, it's kinda-sorta still working, except the bones in it no longer provide the pillar for the muscle or to distribute body mass.
And since we are talking about something completely mindless, you just rendered the zombie utterly unable to do anything at all, without killing it.

>>211429621
>the product placement scene is the only good one in the whole thing
That only got made because they had to go to pepsi for enough money to finish the movie.
Its a shitty movie but it does have some creepy scenes. The human wave going up the walls in israel, or mobbing through the streets was visually pretty great and I wish it was in a better movie.

>>211429915
People have moved with shattered bones inside of them, anon, its called adrenaline rush. Again if the zombie cant stand it will crawl, if the zombie is completely immobilized it is still animated and still a potential threat if stepped on, and again this issue addressed in the book and people wear foot protection after others are attacked by lame zombies.

all zombie movies are fucking boring, it's either about the outbreak where everyone act like they have no idea of the zombie concept or about relationship drama with zombies in the background. they should make a movie where the government and military are competent BUT since that would be boring too they're opposed by a foreign actor who is working on actively spreading the virus, like sending undercover infected in survivor camps, directing hordes, developing new strains, etc.

>>211415898 (OP)
>Entire chapter where IDF are heroically sacrificing themselves to save Palestinian civilians from terrorists
Zombies?

>>211430347
It's like you are purposefully ignoring the actual point.
Are you really that bored?

>>211430479
You're angry at them for trying to make peace? They put aside differences to allow in former enemies since they had better defenses. Plus it denied the zombies more bodies. Stop being a faggot.

>>211430412
You want to watch Kingdom and Ashin of the North then

>Girlboss super soldier whose mommy issues make her stronger than anyone else
The undead?>>211430614

>>211430412
... Ravenous?
I mean sure, we can say it's personal drama, but hear me out:
- people are competent
- the zombies in it are weird as fuck
- the government kinda abandoned the area, to focus on better and easier to defend places
- nobody acts like a cunt, no "hUmAnZ aRe MoNsTeRs" bullshit either
- they are forced by circumstances to improvise, rather than doing dumb shit due to being idiots
It's a really, really competent script that's well performed, too

>>211430550
You truly dont understand what a human can do when push comes to shove, you would give up when the first obstacles came your way. You went from Rambo killing 10 million zombies, to being unable to move because you broke one of your legs.

>The rich end up shoveling poopoo and lazy slackers end up running society because they were secretly way more smart and talented all along
Reanimation virus?

>>211430738
... the hell you are even talking about, man? You sure you even replied to the right post?
And I fail to see how "unbroken human spirit" and "adrenaline rush" memes exactly blends with the concept of femur being in 7 pieces and thus not providing any support whatsoever, especially to something that can't think and also doesn't feel pain, thus unable to correct in any way and just trying to walk forward.

>>211430869
You can drag a broken leg if you need to survive, you act as if people haven't done this in many shituations. So if a human can do this, a zombie most definitely can

>North Korea shuffled its entire population underground
>After the war is over, everyone just agrees not to touch that shit

>Private security forces would sooner betray the rich and powerful who hired them than attack their fellow poorfags
Wikipedia early life section?

>>211429363
>re/tv/rd

>>211415898 (OP)
The zombies are also able to walk along thr ocean floor without being crushed or immobilized by the pressure.
They're basically magically reinforced voodoo zombies but the book avoids confirming this since it would ruin the um actually 'gotcha' moment with the army.

>>211431152
They did walk out if the ocean true, but I dont think it ever says how deep they sunk

>>211417090
>to Cubans
It was called Juan of the Dead and is kino.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhcIBEqczpg

>>211430991
But it just doesn't work that way. Consider just the following
>Major bone gets shattered, limb/torso loses ability to support body weight
>No pain is registered, so the whole thing is ignored
>Assuming the limb is still functional at all (doubt), continuously using it will turn a shattered bone to a series of open fractures
If it's a leg, there is a potential to almost literally walk it down, until it is completely non-operational. And, again, because there is no pain, doing that is pretty easy, since the only thing stopping from "normal" walking is missing.
So if miraculously the original bone damage won't render the limb useless here and there, simple continuous attempts to use that limb will render it unusable from pure mechanical wear and (literal) tear

>The incompetence of the American military
>Blind Japanese samurai and a Japanese otaku 2chan poster
>Stupid concepts like quislings and feral children
>Rich people now shovel poo and poor people now run society (cause all rich people are useless and never earned their way and all poor people aren't lazy and on welfare)
>Israel is best rael
>Is North Korea in a tunnel just hiding out or are they all zombies???????? It's like some kinda Schrodinger's cat of asians, so cool!
>"Muh dogs even though I hated them but now I attack people that do and now I'm in a special K9 unit durrrrrrr"
>For some reason only this random African guy has ONE CRAZY PLAN that will save us and nobody else could ever come up with such a brilliant strategy
>Every character is unrealistically descriptive for "interviews", like it's some lonely Jewish hack writing a shitty fiction book that'll be gobbled up by Americans
>DUDE I'M GUARDING RICH CELEBRITIES AND BILL MAHER AND ANNE COULTER ARE HAVING SEX ON THE BEACH LMAO

Oh no, how dare... HOW DARE Brad Pitt ruin such a *snicker* "classic" book - Max Brooks' salient and cutting satire of modern society that still rings true today - how dare he.

Truly, zombie genre fiction has peaked with this tome

>>211431152
the whole reason the artillery and explosions don't work on them is that the virus coagulated their blood essentially making them immune to the high pressure wave since they're more solid liquid rather than low pressure gas. The same concept applies to them walking on the ocean floor. They don't need to breath and don't have low pressure gas in them. Who cares though, it's a zombie story and people want as much spooky shit as they can get. A horde of zombies scratching at the hull of a submarine or walking out of the surf onto islands is spooky

>>211431356
didn't read all this shit, but I'm sure you're very brilliant. Good job deboonking the zombie book. You really owned that one! Outdid yourself!

>>211424612
Jesus, shut the fuck up you irritating redditor.

>>211431370
Does it also make them immune to, you know, everything else?
Except selectively, so machetes swing by random humans are fine, but direct artillery strike does fuck all?
You know, I'm actually ok with >>211431152 take on this bullshit. If we accept they are voodoo zombies and nobody is using word "realistic" even once, then I guess I can roll with it. But trying to have it "real" and by "real" I mean Thomasian style set of "natural laws" that just ask to self-contradict each other... yeah, how about no

>>211431244
Ok? So now you have a Zombie crawling on the ground, using its two good arms to pull itself forward. Like im confused on the disconnect we are having. People have moved on broken/damaged legs, so zombie who doesnt experience pain can do this with no issue, and will do it until it physically cant, and then will crawl.

>>211431415
>>211431498
>Being such a sore loser

>>211428282
Ah yes, the part where the dumbass author thought every soldier on the battlefield had a video livefeed to every other soldier on the battlefield.

>>211415898 (OP)
what's the zombies primary source of energy that allows for locomotion etc

>>211415898 (OP)

I listened to the audiobook. I recall the authors goes into details about how tanks were useless in the zombie war. A discarding sabot round would only punch a little hole in a crowd of zombies. They needed large area of effect ordnance like shot and flechette rounds.

>>211431559
But that's my point. You have a zombie that no longer walks. It now crawls (assuming it has working limbs, too, since from what I understand the original context was artillery strike). So it went from 2 mph to 0.2 mph and also no longer has any sort of leverage. It can't lunge anymore, since it's on the ground. It can't use it's weight, because it's on the ground. And if it's arms are fucked, it's basically immobile.
So what's the threat here? And more importantly, why would you need to put a bullet to the head, when you can just shoot general body mass, stagger/disable and then finish the job. Or just move along, because you don't give a fuck.

>>211431652
Voodoo magic

>>211431724
On average, third of any tanks ordnance is HE. Often more, because they ar the cheapest

>>211431640
He was very detailed laying out that the Army was fresh off their war on terror and using all their latest gadgets. The commanding officers wanted to show off for the nation so the troops had Land Warrior systems. And it's well known that rumors spread very fast, especially with regard to breaking intelligence on the enemy vulnerabilities or lack thereof. Sounds like the author was WAY smarter than you, and you're the fucking dumbass.

>>211431817
You mean the shit that never got implemented and doesn't even work the way he thinks it does?

>>211431817
>I will repeat like a mantra things that people point out as nonsensical, in dire attempt to convince myself they aren't
Sounds to me you are having waaaay too much time to spare

>>211431724
There's a limit to how many "people" you can shoot or blow up, before you start running out of ammo/ordinance. Russia understands this atm.
A billion zombies or more is beyond anything other than nuclear striking them, which is a good way to fuck yourself further. The fallout is going to be a problem for living people, not the remaining zombs tho.

>>211416635
>The shitty unfinished movie no one likes?
World War Z is a super popular movie. I don't get why book fans are so in denial about the fact that nobody thinks of the book when they think World War Z.

>>211431724
The tanks just weren't able to do enough before running out of fuel, and they were gas guzzlers. The primary way they defeated the zombies was by logistics. Vehicles needed to be fuel efficient, weapons needed to be analyzed regarding how many zombies they could take out. A tank with a turbine engine? Cut. Heavy machine guns? Cut. Semi-auto rifles with incendiary rounds? Pump em out by the millions

>>211431923
This, except the exact opposite

>>211431885
>Anon still doesn't understand how artillery works
>He still thinks it's the matter of running out of ammo
As for your Russian example: 3 fucking years into the war, they are still having enough ordnance to keep going, while having to manage logistics against people who shoot back and actively hunt down supply lines, depos and the artillery itself.
To say nothning about how fucking antiquated Soviet artillery doctrine is (because that's what they are still using), so it wastes a fuckload of rounds to do nothing. And yet even said doctrine is about 150 years ahead of Brooks understanding of artillery, which is downright Napoleonic to him.

>>211431932

Dragons Breath is a meme. It would just make the zombies a little crispy without destroying them.

>>211431932
>Heavy machine guns? Cut.
Civie hands have typed this

>>211431932
>We need to simplify the logistics
>Also, here is the new gun we need to make from a scratch
Someone should tell Brooks military rifles have a thing called selector in them, so they can switch between full auto and semi-auto.

>>211432006
And they had their entire industrial base turned into zombies? society and economy collapse? the entire normal way of life evaporate? everyone run off on their own, creating little fiefdoms and no longer listening to a central government? Yet they carry on the war, that's incredible.

>>211431932

I can see how it would be more efficient to just run over the zombies with the tank. But then it would be more efficient to just get the job done with a lightly armored truck. Jet fuel powered gas turbine engines and 2 feet of sloped armor is overkill when you're flattening zombies.

>>211431752
... This is addressed a lot in the thread. They become land mines more or less in high grass areas, but once this threat is understood everyone wears steel toed shoes and ankle protecting mitigating the threat all together. Again the whole point of the book is to show the hubris of man and the adaptability of man. Man underestimates an enemy they have ZERO knowledge about, gets their ass handed to them, they then learn who their enemy is, and then quickly dismantles the zombie threat to the point that the only zombies that remain are zombies that get frozen in harsh winter weather, and thaws during spring. Absolutely everything the /k/ fags are sperging about eventually happens, once they know their enemy. Whats going on ITT are /k/ fags and others have full knowledge of what a zombie is regardless if its voodoo magic zombies, or zombies (dead or alive) that is animated due to a virus or parasite, and are applying their known knownledge and being smug they can easily take on massive hordes of zombies, which is exactly what happens in the book the moment they understand their enemy.

>>211432006
>As for your Russian example: 3 fucking years into the war, they are still having enough ordnance to keep going
Anon at one point they were reduced to begging dusty old ordinance off the Norks. And they were merely battling the military-aged men of a single medium country.

jewish nepo baby author

>>211415898 (OP)
Reddit book.

Zombies have always been a shit monster and world war Z is gay
>muh jews are da last country

>>211432921
I think sheer number is an opposing monster regardless the medium. A billion blood thirsty rats? Come on, that would be fucking scary

>>211433201
NO! Rats are REDDIT! I could EASILY kill a billion of them. No problem! I'd just use my artillery which would wipe out a billion rats in seconds. They'd never be a problem to me no matter what you think up! I'm the best monster slayer EVER and you all are REDDIT!

>>211433336
Hahaha, fucking spot on.

>>211415985
this

>but Max Brooks said

>well according to world renowned author Max Brooks...

>weapons expert Max Brooks begs to differ

>>211421870
It's all fun and games until you slip a track.

I just want a zombie movie where some one killdozer's a steamroller.

>>211435849
Land of the Dead was close enough.

>>211418082
>Shock waves and shrapnel can destroy limbs, BUT the head is invulnerable to that.
Otherwise, why not burn them? It's just a big mass of flesh; all you have to do is spread some flammable material from a plane/helicopter, and voila, it will eventually reach the brain.

>>211435496
>>211435681
Oh you landed a hit every single time??? Good shot, kid! Now what about the other million behind the 500 you just killed? Oh you ran out of ammo? Oh... Oh...

>>211436081
Then you have zombies on fire running around until they fire consumes their brain enough to end them

>>211424953
>but there is a shit ton more behind them that will keep going and not every single zombie involved in the explosion will be eliminated which, some will be ripped in half
so they will be unable to move or will move very slowly just bomb and burn everything right after

>>211436402
There are still millions more unscathed from the attacks, what about them? Its the sheer number of zombies that makes them a threat. One zombie is a weak monster, a million, 5 million, 50 million, A BILLION zombies is an unimaginable force that sheer gun power alone won't be able to stop them.

>>211426479
>million strong army basically walk right up to you before lauching the first attacks because you treat them like humans,
You don't wait for the enemy to get into close combat if you can just bombard them from a distance.
>"But they don't know what a zombie is." That's not an argument. No modern army would wait until the infantry was ready to strike first. They would send in planes and use artillery before even seeing them with their own eyes.

>>211431356
>BILL MAHER AND ANNE COULTER ARE HAVING SEX ON THE BEACH LMAO
Is Anne Coulter a 12 yo boy?

>>211436220
>other million
Napalm and Arty.

>>211436786
They just keep coming anon, blew up the first line? They keep coming, blew up the second and third, 18th and 22nd line??? The keep coming. They don't stop, they won't stop, and here comes more and more, and more, and more. Killed 500k? What of the next wave of a million? and the next wave? The numbers of zombies will out weigh all the ammo you throw at it. Oh you found more ammo??? They keep coming regardless of your new found ammo. Sheer numbers will stump anything you suggest.

>>211436980
Now you have a million zombies with sticky fire running/walking/crawling towards you.

>>211436260
>zombies on fire running around until they fire consumes their brain enough to end them
So about few minutes ? You know we have material who burn really fast

>>211436644
>unscathed from the attacks, what about them?
Bomb them more you retard
Then burn the mass and send bulldozer

>>211415898 (OP)
Certainly not good but it'd be hard to make something worse than that fucking movie abomination.

>>211437143
>The numbers of zombies will out weigh all the ammo you throw at it
No they won't retard, do you know how artillery work ? How we can OBLITERATE anything ?
>But-but big number and...
Just bomb them all and burn the rest, it's that simple, the book is a baddly writen bullshit from a jew anyway

>>211437460
Then more keep coming, and more, and more, and more
>>211437532
And more, and more, and more. You wont win, in fact you have lost.

>>211437579
>You wont win, in fact you have lost.
You sound like a child who can't accept losing at a board game, trying to invent new rules and justifications. No, a mass of millions and millions, all grouped together, tightly packed, and just walking straight ahead, couldn't defeat an army. Accept it, the book is completely retarded.

Stupid black bitch thinks a katana would be best melee weapon in the zombie apocalypse. After you slash through two rib cages the thing would break in half. Meanwhile, the 7 foot guy with a poleaxe would be king.

>>211437673
And they keep coming, and coming, and coming, keep up /k/id they wont stop coming. Radio for more missle drops? Out of missles, will be close to an hour until they can scramble back. Yeah the tank!!!! but its low on gas, they keep coming, and coming and coming, but you have more ammo, oops they stopped some, the million more behind them arent stopping. You yell your /k/nowledge at them, but the zombies keep pushinf forward. You make a run for it, run into waist high grass and you feel things grabbing your at your legs, oh god they are all over the place, some crawling, some just chomping hoping you accidentally step in their open mouth, you run and run but they keep coming. You trip and break your ankle, you cant move, broken bones mean 100% in ability to move, you get swarmed and eaten. You have lost

>>211437176
the ones that aren't blown apart have their muscles constrict from the flames and become easier to deal with.
>letting yourself be backed into a corner
Choose where to fight them, have an evac plan and do it early giving your guys enough time to keep kiting them out into the open.

>>211437935
Ahh you sound like the later chapters of WWZ once they learned who their enemy is. You of course coming from a universe where zombies are a well known fantasy monster, have all the answers how to stop them.

>>211437673
Honestly you just saying "everything fails cuz infinite zombies" is fucking stupid. It's not the instant win you think it is.

>>211437786
goddamn she's ugly

>>211437673
>trying to invent new rules
No, there was a shit ton of zombies in the WWZ universe, the human race almost died, the zombie total in North America was 200 million, 2/3rds of the population. Do you understand what 2/3rds of 7 billion? At minimum there are a billion zombies, and thats a conservative number. So no rules are being bent.

>>211415898 (OP)
>zombieslop
grow up

>>211438008
So they were unable to pass down information about what they were up against? You would think they'd figure out that
>they just run straight at you
>they die from head shots
>they are reanimated
World War Z is obviously a world where NOBODY has EVER heard of a zombie.

>>211438398
Fear and misinformation was a massive issue at the beginning, but as I have fucking said to nauseum, the humans eventually adapted and when they did they quickly took out the threat. The book takes place 10 years after the events, and zombies are basically nonexistent anymore except for a stupid small number that were frozen in winter weather and thawed out in spring,

>>211428111
>BMP-T
Nice. IFVs solve zombie films.

>>211439597

>>211415985
>The book is kind of silly though too
Yes, it is meant to be humorous. American's are just retarded.
>zombies are supah srs bsns and supah scurry
>any book or movie bout them cannot be funny!!!!!

>>211416436
Nepotism in print form

>>211415898 (OP)
>Ummm actually sweaty le military lost because they got over confident and lost one battle

Ok? So they know to be a little serious now. Machine guns will mulch any zombie outbreak effortlessly. Bombs will turn their brains to mush

>>211418082
>>211415898 (OP)
You can easily defeat a zombie horde with less than 10 tanks and a good supply of fuel

>>211425106
Artillery will blow you to bits

Zombies in many bits cannot do anything


Also heavy machine gun and 30mm / 40mm cannon fire will chew through the body leaving nothing but husks behind

>>211437422
How long to reduce a full zombie to ash, is it going to be cost effective, do we still have access to chemical plants, how many helicopters/planes do we have, can we rig our current incidieries to use this new weapon or do we have to make a new delivery system, how many technicians do we have, how many spare parts do we have, if a zombie is on fire for an extended period how can we stop him from setting us on fire, how much of our infrastructure and resources will be consumed by fire, what are the psychological effects of seeing loved ones and children zombies melt and burn as they shuffle toward you unphased

Vs

>we can make a gun out of wood and scrap metal for 50$ with basic machining tools and give it to the dumbest cunt in the world and teach him a doctrine that is effective and results in no collateral damage and a quick efficient death for the zed.

>>211436786
Yeah the part about how they did some trench and dugout warfare was so fucking stupid. We'd have blasted them with idf and heavy weapons before they got within 500m. Hurr you have to shoot zombies in the brain. Guess what. An m2 or mk19 will turn them into pink mist from a mile away so it won't be a problem

>>211418082
Just wanted to come back to the thread and say: no one here read the book or understands that modern weapons and doctrine were tried and they weren’t effective and if they were effective they weren’t used effectively:

At the battle of Yonkers the tanks and aircraft found that HE weapons, jdams, thermobaric and other conventional munitions were effective but not as effective as you’d expect. They mince a lot of them but when you realise that the zombies just don’t stop and there are millions it becomes apparent modern tech only gets you so far. The generals were Cold War/global war on terror mode and outfitted tanks with armor piercing rounds, helicopters with anti air missiles and also had the foot soldiers in heavy combat gear with biohazard masks. By this point most of the east coast was gone and they set up a funnel with tank barricades and trenches, invited all the media and made out a big PR show of their new gear. All linked up to a soldier intranet with radios and comms broadcasting everything.

Basically the weapons worked. Then they realised they were going up against all the zombies of New York and the surrounding areas following the horde and noise. After a few hours they run out of ammo, but the zombies don’t stop, it’s the psychological effect of seeing a giant black wave of non stop zombies waking through everything you throw at them, eventually the comms system starts showing your friends being ripped apart and everything falls to shit. It took several years for the doctrine and equipment to change to adapt to the zombies but it’s best to read the book for that.

Tldr: weapons did work but not well enough to combat the sheer volume of zombies and human psychology problems/antiquated command. mismanagement fucked things up.

>>211438266
It was infuriating they chose this fugly ass chick to play her, the comic version was 5x hotter and worthy of drilling for oil. Knowing what we know now about hardcore feminism in entertainment, of was very likely done on purpose.

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