Soprano cucks BTFO

>>211430013 (OP)
I don't believe him desu. I'm sure he's watched it all but didn't want to answer any questions the interviewer might have had regarding it so just said he hadn't seen it to quash any potential questions early.

>>211430013 (OP)
Generational difference? David Chase is like the same age as him

of course he didn't like it. Chase made the mafia life look legitimately grimy and tacky, while Scorsese can't help but glamorize it.

Latter day mobsters were slovenly and foul-mouthed though. Basically any pretension toward upholding some kind of code was dropped by the time Sopranos was filmed, they were all just degenerate low-lives.

>>211430178
They were always that

>>211430013 (OP)
Erm... plonked

>the casual use of foul language around family is so based it's unrealistic

>>211430013 (OP)
It's one of the most honest depictions of the mafia, but it annoys Scorsese because he grew up admiring them like the stupid wop he is.

>>211430137
Agreed. Scorsese makes mobsters look bigger than life. Sopranos shows them as fallible thugs.

>>211430013 (OP)
So he's just like every other retard who only watched the pilot and never soldiered through to the meat of the show? Yes, the pilot is awkward and different. Yes, it gets better. Yes, Sopranos haters are mentally handicapped even with Scorsese who hasn't made a good film since the Aviator

Scorsese is old school and said once he saw that the family were swearing at the dinner table he knew he wouldn't be able to relate to this culture and dropped it. I don't know if he even got beyond the pilot, which is arguably the worst episode and blatantly ripping off Goodfellas. I get it.

I dislike both. The mafia isn't cool or interesting, just a bunch of retarded wop pieces of garbage.

>>211430013 (OP)
I would be pissed too if I saw the pilot and realized it was just a cheap knockoff of my film. He probably turned off the TV after that goofy car chase scene.

>>211431439
>soldiered through
If you weren't hooked by the pilot you're a faggot and a pleb. Sure the show evolved as it went on but people who criticise the pilot and season one, they should fucking die.

>>211431605
You're a pleb faggot. The mafia stuff is just the hook. The show is about the human condition.

>>211430013 (OP)
That little hack's last good movie was in 1991(Cape Fear) so fuck him and his opinion.

>>211432055
I get why NPCs wouldn't like the pilot though, it was made with 90s sensibilities in mind and they obviously didn't have the hindsight to know what a cultural touchstone it would turn into

>>211430013 (OP)
>gangsters are only foul mouthed thugs in the street and with their crew. at home they are perfect gentlemen who read their children bed time stories from the bible before rubbing their wives feet and listening to her problems.
marty needs to stfu or die already, he's a overrated hasbeen who hasn't made anything worth watching in over a decade.

>>211430104
They both come from an era where TV was seen as a lesser artform to film. Chase actually felt the same way, which is why he wanted to be a movie director first but could only get a break in television. And so he set out to make Sopranos more than just television, which is how it became the first "prestige" tv show.
Scorsese and Chase are both two sides of the same coin. It's just where Scorsese probably never outgrew his mentality about television, Chase set out to actively raise the bar of what television could be.

>>211433024
I watched the show as it originally aired and knew instantly that it was something special.

>>211432172
Everything is about the human condition you pretentious limp-wristed faggot.

I just watched the UHD of After Hours AMA

I have never understood the fascination with mafia/mobsters to the point of knowing their names and the families and who killed who, when, why, etc.
People who obsess over it, like Scorsese, have mental illness.

>>211433515
in their minds its not forgotten they feel as though a tooth were rotten behind their smile a tongue is slipping, buzzards cry when flesh is ripping

>>211433587
takes your meds martin

>>211433515
How is it different to anything else? someone who's interested in motorbikes or lotr lore or ancient history?

>>211434184
1. its boring and uninteresting
2. theyre criminals who contributed nothing to society

I'll tell you what it's like, it's like women's obsession with celebrity gossip and who is dating who. Who the fuck cares?

>>211434323
Different things interest different people you daft cunt.

>>211430013 (OP)
I don't know about the Mob of 90s and such, but Mob in earlier days had plenty of foul mouth degens in it. That the bosses larped as honest businessmen didn't mean their low ranking drug dealers, porn peddlers and car thiefs did.

>>211430013 (OP)
The fbi o algo released some tapes of real mobsters talking about how the sopranos were too realistic
Scorsese is a hack

>>211434323
>it's like women's obsession with celebrity gossip and who is dating who
that's exactly right kek

>>211434323
It's an easy goldmine of imitable content especially with NYC as the setting. Italian-American accents are funny. Though really, no one gives a fuck about real life Cosa Nostra anymore, especially not after the turn of the century... but gangs, violence, organized crime, gabagool, angry fat Italian men with anger problems... those things will always be entertaining.

the director of the irishman does not get an opinion on anything, i'm afraid. whenever his name comes up now i just think about deniro clearly breaking his hips with that terrible de-age effect on.

>>211434323
its interesting to cite contributing to society. ironically enough the mafia died around the same time any semblance of a nice society in the western world did. now its all third world.

>>211434855
I care, altough not for the turn of the century stuff, as you said. Murder Machine was a cool book. And when you look into Roy DeMeo you will stop idealizing the mob.

>>211434841
Lmao my dude what incredible insight haha it's not as if the show itself didn't poke fun at people who were in to the mafia drama on a tabloid level or anything haha xd

how was killers of the flower moon? i never saw it.

>>211434549
yeah, some people like to eat pasta and some people like to eat shit

>>211435087
And then there are people like you who love to eat cock.

>>211435148
>And then there are people like you who love to eat cock.
We don't talk about OP in this house.

>>211435034
one of the worst movies ever

>the sopranos: too based for scorsese

>>211434976
sopranos did yes, which is why guys like scorsese probably don't like it

scorsese IRL is exactly like those golf boomers that constantly asked tony about the various mafia killings

>Thinking you can judge an entire series based on one episode

>>211435915
he operates on a different wavelength