Andor broke Kathleen Kennedy's mind

>>211443608 (OP)
We need 6 or 7 more Skywalker movies with epic girl boss Rey Starwars in them

did i skip timelines? I thought she 2as fired?

>>211443608 (OP)
Disney and Kathleen Kennedy ruined Star Wars.

>>211443608 (OP)
what does she even mean by that?

>"fuck you and the source-material"

>>211443608 (OP)
Just give Star Wars to Denis Villennue already.

>>211443715
Most original Star Wars related take.

>>211443608 (OP)
so she's reached the conclusion the rest of us reached after episode 1, nice

>>211443715
Lucas did that himself...first with the special edition. after that, the prequel; they could have been masterpieces if he had not ruined them by directing and screenwriting them, should have been only the producer and ideas guy. Then he himself sold it to disney..So I blame Lucas

>>211443608 (OP)
Finally, they can make mature Star Wars that has nothing to do with Star Wars, so I don't have to feel embarrassed about being an adult Star Wars fan.

>>211443608 (OP)
oblivion npc lookin ass

I refuse to watch Andor because Star Wars isn't Star Wars without the space battles, the aliens, the wizards and laser swords. All we have wanted for years is a well-writen and acted Star Wars.not a well-written and acted show about the 8th most interesting character from Rogue One, which wasn't a good movie and only looks good compared to dogshit like Ashoka.

>>211444332
>Lucas didn't want to direct them
>everyone he asked said no
>they were too afraid to touch SW
>he does it himself
>it's somehow his fault
Lay off the RLM kool-aid.

>>211444332
No, Disney and Kathleen Kennedy robbed Star Wars.

>>211444603
>Lay off the RLM kool-aid.
Rent free

>KK actually makes good decisions that benefit the SW brand
>Chuds:NOOOOOOOOO

>>211443608 (OP)
SW was popular worldwide, and a new movie was an event in itself. Since Disney it's been reduced to streaming shows that BARELY reach above cancellation numbers.

What she described is what you guys said you wanted 100 times

>>211444562
Andor is not a movie. It's a TV show. It doesn't need all that stuff but it has almost everything that makes star wars great.

>>211444332
>SQUAWK reddit letter media reddit letter media SQUAWK

>>211444724
except an open-ended story. Andor has great quality, but we all know how the story ends, and what comes after.

>>211444740
Hating Lucas and the prequels is older than you are

>>211443715
I have the feeling that ultra-arrogant power-Jew Iger had a part to play as well.

>>211444724
I tuned into my buddies streaming it for a few minutes and there were like office people drinking coffee in doctor who style clothing in a set that looks like it's mashed together from a warehouse of generic props. it didn't look like star wars at all and all it took for me to have zero interest in ever watching andor was those few minutes.

picrel, this is what I was seeing when I tuned in. actual doctor who-tier shite

I watched an episode and a half of andor and I just do not give a fuck about star wars and couldn't take it. Might be a great show, no idea, but I'm done with star wars permanently.

>>211444780
I agree, it was something only a few sweaty gen Xers had a hate boner for. RLM brainwashed a bunch of younger people with a funny video later on. you can check the archives here to see that there was no particular prequel hate among younger audiences before reddit made their meme video and that episode III was actually a very common pick for favorite star wars movie.

>>211444562
The only bad thing about Andor is Andor

>GEORGE LUCAS RAPED OUR CHILDHOODS
>Wishes death on Jake Loyd and Jar Jar's actor
>A-at least the sequels aren't as bad as the prequels, shut up you just hate Rey you sexist incel
>I FUCKING LOVE ANDOR AND MANDALORIAN
The average Gen X-yr, and millennial star wars fans.

>>211444710
Star Wars is dead, Jim

>>211444704
Come on now, you know that's not what's happening. What's happening is she's spinning Andor as justification for sharting out whatever the next ACKolyte will be. She's crafting a narrative in which audiences didn't show up for ACKolyte because they just hadn't recognised that that Star Wars iS fOr AdULtS tOo, not because it was a pile of vapid girlboss-feminism garbage liked only by activists and fujos, and so really what the brand needs is MORE things like ACKolyte.

>Disney release bad Star Wars product
Fucking Kathleen Kennedy probably wrote and directed everything the bitch
>Disney release ok Star Wars product
Thank god they kept Kathleen Kennedy imprisoned in a box for this!

>>211444824
>Is that... a guy drinking coffee? AAAAAH LUCASMAN SAVE ME!!
>Is that even canon? What does wookiepedia have to say about this??

>>211443704
She's not going anywhere. If she's survived to this point then nothing can dislodge her. Doesn't matter, Star Wars is dead and beyond revival.

NOW THIS IS CINEMA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHH4epgObDs

>>211444740
>>211444603
>>211444846
>>211444978
Please stop derailing the thread and go back to your subreddit.

>>211443704
two more weeks

>>211443608 (OP)
Isn't that what Acolyte and Ahsoka are about?

>>211444824
>NO MEMBERBERRIES?
>SHIT LOOKS DIFFERENT ON ONE PLANET IN A GALAXY WITH MILLIONS OF PLANETS?
>AHHHHH, SAVE ME FILONI!

>>211443608 (OP)
What is this insane, demented cunt even talking about?

>>211443608 (OP)
What a fucking genius eh, it had to get to the point where Disney had the population of an entire galaxy down to 25 people.

>>211443608 (OP)
Is she talking about AI?
The series with greg and that other stormtrooper was nice

>>211443608 (OP)
So basically the EU. That's what that is.

>>211444903
Gonk.

>>211443608 (OP)
Andor is the exact kind of leftyslop she likes.

>>211444824
>Ummmm excuse me where are the lightsabers? where is R2D2?

>>211443608 (OP)
what does a producer like her even do?

Kathleen Kennedy finally realized how to make Star Wars profitable by not making Star Wars, even though that what she's been doing all along

>>211443608 (OP)
maybe she understands now.

Stop copying GL's style from 1-6. Those have an epic, theatrical and legend-like storytelling. Only GL can do that.

STOP THINKING YOU CAN ADD "EPISODES" TO GL'S SAGA
Stop explaining core origins like the force and Yoda, etc
Stop undermining characters from 1-6
Stop recontextualizing

Take after Gilroy and tell your story through a "lens".

A hero from history can be given a epic and exaggerated death but in reality, they died from a random arrow fired from some bloke halfway across the battlefield.

Both instances have their place, Lucas with the former, Gilroy-esque with the latter.

As an OG Star Wars fan who was alive when it was just the original trilogy and enjoyed some of the extended universe stuff I gotta hand it to them, Rogue One and Andor really feel like the only worthy modern Star Wars works, and they're definitely the only ones outside of the drier Zahn novels that felt like they were for adults instead of kids and autistic manchildren.

>>211444562
>Star Wars isn't Star Wars without the space battles, the aliens, the wizards and laser swords
the two most redundant things in Star Wars in 2025 are
>the force
>Jedi
There are 10,000 stories that can be told in this fascinating universe yet fucking nerds like you throw their toys out of the pram if they focus on anything other than the most hackneyed tropes which were already being parodied over 30 years ago.

>>211443608 (OP)
This is just the EU with extra steps

>>211444332
the prequels have issues and the lame CG characters added in later editions of the original trilogy are lame too, but the disney star wars movies is such a downgrade they literally killed it

>>211444332
Don't you have a retirement home to go to, grandpa?

>>211446726
>rogue one
>for adults
lmao

>>211447010
Of course, but they are just disney product, so why care? The prequel actually had potential, could have been masterpiece in the hand of competent filmmakers.

>>211447046
>so why care?
I don't actively care, but I saw the thread and wanted to discuss. We are on a forum, you know?

>>211447023
Yes, but they have internet there and I'll just keep complaining about the prequel

>>211443608 (OP)
word slop

>>211444710
Too little, too late

>>211447059
I meant more in general way, not you specifically. Why people care so much about hating a disney product

>>211443608 (OP)
Filoni is COOKED. Glup Shittos are out. Gilroy saved Star Wars.

>>211446726
Rogue One is shit, my man. I don't know what people get out of that movie.
Name the full cast of characters, right now.

>>211447078
>they have internet there
Grim

>>211447116
oh lol my bad I get your point.

>>211443608 (OP)
How does the final boss karen get in charge of one of the biggest franchise in the world anyway? I’ve never understood how this woman got to where she is and how she manages to stay there despite all the failures

>>211447176
gives good head

>>211447219
Man she looks like a fuckign monster, those are not the eyes of a human, it looks like the souless eyes of a shark

>>211447157
The cute bunny, the robot, andor calrissian, blind asian, big asian, sandnig, Mads, Forest, abomination Tarkin, Cool Vader

>>211444824
>I didn't see this before as a kid? wtf? none of this reminds me of anything! SAVE ME GEORGE

have women ever improved anything

>>211447480
They improved sex, with men sex was no good

>>211444824
>erm excuse me it's not real Star Wars unless Glup Shitto is headbutting lightsabers

>>211447176
Blackmail material that dwarfes the epstein files.

>>211447343
shark sucky sucky

Lucas ruined Star Wars, all the good parts were contributions from other, more talented people like Marcia Lucas, Gary Kurtz, Timothy Zahn, or Tony Gilroy. People will celebrate when Lucas finally dies.

>>211447697
he just went too far in a few places

>>211447697
Don't forget Ralph McQuarrie and John Williams. They are more than 50% the reason Star Wars was so great

>>211447810
He should go too far into a fucking bullet

>>211447697
Mike was right when he called George “the luckiest hack in Hollywood”.

>>211447157
Sure. I mean, not giving specific names because Star Wars names may as well be Chinese and I'm playing this honest but you have TV's Cassian Andor, K the Droid, Nondescript Girl, Blind Ip Man, Mongolian Barbecue, pilot no one cared about, Krennic, Saw, CGI Grand Moff Tarkin, and Mads Mikkelsen.
It's not like I'm saying the film is making it into the Criterion Collection or whatever. It's passable. It's still a popcorn flick, but it's still not as bad as any other Star Wars film released after 1983.

>>211447697
Don’t forget Kasdan and Kershner, the sole reason Empire is actually a masterpiece especially when compared to Puke-as’ intended sequel Splinter of the Mind’s Eye.

It’s funny how the worst parts of Star Wars are also the most identifiable parts. Drop the stupid space wizard samurai shit, the retarded rubber mask ayy lmao’s, the self indulgent dogfights and suddenly it’s kino but people complain that it doesn’t feel like Star Wars.

>>211447157
Well there's Rogue One... and Rogue Two, and, uh, I assume Rogue Three

>>211447697
How hasn’t George been sued into oblivion at this point? It’s well documented how Star Wars was actually made by multiple other people and yet he still gets sole credit for it.

>>211448269
Well in the case of Marcia since made the “Special” editions he actually replaced her contributions so she doesn’t get credit or more importantly royalties from that. George is a total scumbag and I’m surprised he hasn’t been outed as a sex pest.

>>211448184
>people complain that it doesn’t feel like Star Wars
That's what was good about Andor really, it told a human story using Star Wars as a backdrop rather than a Star Wars story using humanity as a backdrop. It wasn't one for Star Wars fans, but Star Wars fans are just sci-fi Marvel fans.

>>211446612
still waiting for one of you SW maniacs to explain why george had to sell and how he's not at fault or how he couldn't possibly predict that disney would cheese something up...

he's mega-rich. he claims he had another 3 episodes ready to go. so why sell?

>>211448370
because of Mike Stoklasa

>>211448416
Based Mike saving Star Wars once again.

If the goal is to be praised by critics and political andys then yeah Gilroy-esque shit is the way to go. Otherwise it's a total dead-end. There's no future there.

>>211448459
You lost, Shittonigger.

Reminder that George’s sequels would’ve been hot fucking garbage with Honey I Shrunk the Kids Bullshit and Darth Maul still being alive. JJ may be creatively bankrupt but at least he’s not a hack and the sequels being successful would eventually lead to Andor being made. Lucas’s sequels would have destroyed the brand even more than the prequels did.

>>211448584
This

>>211447697
TRVKE

I really like how Andor led to people turning on George again, the prequelfags got to push too much bullshit after the sequels come out.

>>211447176
Same reason any cunt or nigger is in a positon of power. Boomers handed it to them.

You can't have the "future" of Star Wars because it was a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away.

>>211443726
"You can shoehorn your retarded politics and gross misrepresentation of reality into star wars and act like you are helping"

>>211443704
She's never getting fired. She's worked under Spielberg since the 70's. She 100% has dirt on everyone.

>>211443608 (OP)
>we are going to keep milking this shitty franchise until disney realizes how much money they are losing

>>211448309
>George is a total scumbag and I’m surprised he hasn’t been outed as a sex pest.
Carrie Fisher being casting couch'd for Star Wars is a known thing that she even joked about

>>211443704
too many execs grabbed her ass back in the day, she's untouchable now

>>211449280
George is such a peace of shit especially since he divorced Marcia and cut her out of everything over a perceived “affair”.

>>211448493
I'm not the one whose show has to be grouped per 3 episodes just to get it to chart and spin it as a success. Dead end.

>>211449526
You’re so mad lmao

>>211448584
>>211448660
The Prequel Merchandise Made BILLIONS!!!

Go suck Disney's rat peenor somewhere else!!!!

>>211449280
>Women has no agency, they're like children

>>211449475
>I'm a retarded cuxk

>>211449568
>It made more money so it’s better
Jew

>>211449642
Disney's merchandise bankrupted Toys R Us!!!!!!

>>211450557
Toys R Us went bankrupt because of Mitt Romney.

>>211450597
Having a tonne of Rey toys that ended up.in bargain bins and eventually land fill sure as he'll didn't help.

>>211443704
This I remember her leaving wtf

>>211446726
>I gotta hand it to them, Rogue One and Andor really feel like the only worthy modern Star Wars works, and they're definitely the only ones outside of the drier Zahn novels that felt like they were for adults instead of kids and autistic manchildren.

>>211451277
>This nigger still lives in a world where he believes shit on the internet
You better smarten up

>>211443704
chud bros.... is our propaganda and hate campaign not working??????

Andor was a legitimately good show, but I felt like if it wasn't going to actually BE Star Wars, why set it in the Universe? Being in the Star Wars universe constrained where the plot could go and boxed them in. It would havs worked better in its own Sci-fi universe.

>>211443704
It's hilarious how KK haters and Qanon have so much in common.

>>211443704
People made entire YouTube careers out of baiting her retirement because her work is so bad, it's actually insane.

>>211446771
>There are 10,000 stories that can be told in this fascinating universe

And yet Disney can't tell one ;^)

Stop trying to reinvent the fucking wheel and make a space samurai film.

>>211444824
>this never happened
>nice try Gareth Edwards

Andor was probably the best TV series to come out in past 10 years, easy.

No it doesn't have giant space slop battles Gareth, its about the "gravel of the empire".

The little people behind the scenes. Its kino (exception of eps 2-3 of season 2) and looks absolutely incredible the entire time. All the money spent is on the screen.

You just have shit taste. The new Transformers babby movie is coming out next year

>>211444824
>One mad autistic got blown the fuck out by this and replied five times

>>211452328
>Stop trying to reinvent the fucking wheel and make a space samurai film.
they can't, they aren't able to. the well has been too poisoned. Samurai films can't exist when the fiction is focused on women only. Tarantino tried and the result was good but that was Tarantino before he went to shit so..

>>211447697
I love how Tony Gilroy during filming Andor said he was going to just fucking ignore half the "cannon" from rebels / clone wars because it was stupid / tasteless.

Awesome. We need more big dicks like Tony pushing the Star Wars nerd around.

Its the nerds and toxic fandom that ruined Star Wars. Not Lucas.

>>211447697
>>211452477
...what if I were to tell you that you both were wrong?

>>211449535
More people played Star Wars Fortnite then watched Andor, and that was also considered an abysmal failure.

I wish we got a show focused more on space battles. Imagine a Master and Commander style show following a lone Star Destroyer in the Outer Rim during the Rebellion hunting down some ace pirates being funded by the Rebellion. An Imperial captain, alone with his crew far from the front, outmatched in a hostile sector, fighting for order as the tied of entropy tear the Empire down around him.

>>211452370
>gay show is the best thing in ten years

>>211452656
The modus oprerandi of Disney Wars is NO WAR. They permit battles and setpiece events so they can stage women power moments but in general you'll notice there is zero actual war in Disney Wars. War is bad. The only things that matter are feminism, fake spirituality and shame.

many many

Andor Season 2 is officially the moment Disney Wars overtook Lucas Wars.

>>211453180
This

>>211446546
Cast the young boys who are willing to suck on her yeast-infected fanny

>>211453180
The grim reality that toxic nerd retards won’t be able to accept is that Andor is even better than the supposed “two good movies” Star Wars and Empire. Oh sure they try, but they’re still mired down in Lucas’ childish storytelling, flat dialogue, faux 60’s spiritualist pablum, and corny puppets like Yoda. Andor is the first Star Wars property that actually feels like it was written and shot for adults.

>>211443608 (OP)
It really is sad how every time she opens her mouth, she's trying to look like she's in charge because she's out of her depth and failing. It's a cry for help at this point

>>211443608 (OP)
She will be gone in one more week!

>>211453319
Poisoned well. After you tossed the corpses of Mark Hamill and Harrison Ford in there, the water went putrid. Like Blue Milk.

>>211453180
>>211453226
>>211453319
kys troon freak

>>211443608 (OP)
Does this mean we could have an "alternative timeline" with Kyle Katarn?

>>211453319
no one will ever care. that's what happens when you poison a brand. the star wars name may as well be associated with irradiating infants at this point.

>>211444824
thanks for posting this and warning me

not gonna bother touching this tranny slop

>>211453564
We have Kyle Katarn at home, chud.

>>211453564
If we were to get alternate timeline movies or movies loosely based on the old games like Outcast and Jedi Academy, then that would be amazing. But I doubt it will happen in the next 10 years. Maybe 20, but not sooner. That would be too much of an admittance that their failed sequels were trash.

>>211443704
Yes all the rumor mills said she was going to leave then the Critical Drinkers cheered it on. However because she got offended by that she decided not to step down that is my take on it. She probably was but it got leaked and she got angry and stayed on as revenge.

>>211452370
If only they could make the first 3 episodes on both seasons go into the deleted scenes lol

The only thing that can save Star Wars is if they bring back the EU stories. We should be watching the end of the Vong trilogy right now, which new names playing the roles of the Solo twins, and Anakin. Mara Jade, etc...

>>211453819
>>211453981
Why the fuck would you want Disney anywhere near the EU? It's obvious they would butcher it, just let it be.

>>211454022
I mean if they give it to someone who has full control and doesn't butcher it. EU has fun stories to tell that would look nice on the big screen, instead of shitty fanfic tier novels.

>>211447139
>Holding the person in the corporate structure responsible for all major decisions responsible for the consequences of those decisions?!?!!!!
>Preposterous! Nobody would do this if it were a man!
Funny how the things that succeed(R1, Mando S1, Andor at least critically) are all 1000% down to her, personal babies that she drove through, absolutely impossible with the wonderous Kathleen Kennedy at the helm of the franchise etc etc, but the far more numerous flops - some of which she very publicly DID claim personal responsibility for well before they came out - all just happened. Because of ghosts or racists or something. Yeah that's it: ghost racists made them fail.

Fuck it, I don't even care, let her take credit for everything, let her pretend Star Wars under her personal leadership didn't go from a global juggernaught beloved nigh universally to being such a failure of fandom, of cultural relevance, and of commerce that merch that kids used to physically fight each other in toystore aisles for after a film release now get discounted down to pennies and still end up in landfill. Let her believe and say whatever the fuck she likes as long as she just gives in and fucking retires(or drops dead, both are good). JUST LEAVE BITCH.

>>211443704
two more weeks

>>211448584
Reminder that there were at least five different versions of George's sequels he's referred to over the years and he was renowned for both changing his mind and spouting bizarre-ass bullshit like "Darth Icky" in utterly deadpan manner. You can suck mousecock all you like, odds are the REAL sequels would have been utter kinois and features maybe 10% of the mad shit he occasionally talked about when some journoshitter bugged him to talk about sequels for the five thousandth time in an interview about something else entirely.

>>211443726
Like the rest of Hollywood, she thinks that she can create infinite spin-offs of popular franchises that don't feature any of the characters that made those franchises popular in the first place.
Look for future shows featuring Luke Skywalker's chiropodist and Indiana Jones' lesbian great-aunt who lived in Poland.

>>211443608 (OP)
Sounds very logical. How is she mindbroken?

>>211445320
All she said was they can do more projects like Andor

>>211454547
Trying to make projects that connect to the Lucas movies caused the sequels and garbage like Kenobi. Andor and Mando are the most popular things they've made and have very limited connection to those movies

>>211443608 (OP)
this nigga lied to me

>>211453970
>the Critical Drinkers cheered it on
Scottish Plinkett is alright. Did he ever hookup with the elfjew at the daily wire or did he naaah it.

>>211454709
>Andor
Andor isn't popular at all.
The few people who watched it liked it.
Mandalorian likewise dropped off a cliff.

>>211444824
You got filtered by the best character in the series.

>>211443608 (OP)
Kino.
>>211443692
Yes.

>>211444903
This. Cassian Andor is the worst part of the show, and rebels too. It's the Empire and the spy shit where it shines

>>211447157
True, it's the worst kind of let's shoehorn in themes from OG movies, add a chick and make it lame and gay

>>211444824
>reeee where is my jar jar binks

>>211444845
I had this opinion and just finished S1. The final 3 episodes are worth getting through the first 3 episodes. Wasn’t expecting such kino.

>>211457530
Cassian is more of a Candíde type character that has things happen to him more than anything else. It’s hilarious when he gets arrested for ‘looking around’ at the beach. That’s straight out of Voltaire. The story around him is more interesting than the character himself other than the fact that he loves his momma. Him being a smuggler or a warrior doesn’t really bail him out of most situations.

>>211456875
Life as a bong is misery.

>>211452271
>be you
>be fat virgin
>make youtube channel
>belch into the microphone and cry ar starwars, and similar media created for children
>call it a career

>>211453752
Anon I actually liked Andor and Rogue One even though I was sad Katarn got axed.

>>211443704
she's gonna stay there till the day she dies, man

>>211443704
I dunno picrel dropped when 4chan was toasted and so it was never discussed on /tv/

>>211454380
Seek help.

>>211453970
>the rumor mills

Lies made up by clickbait grifters are not "the rumor mills." You're just being lied to. That's all. Get out of your echochamber.