Thread 211461800 - /tv/ [Archived: 1404 hours ago]

Anonymous
6/14/2025, 11:21:40 PM No.211461800
Star-Wars-Return-Of-The-Jedi-Luke-Skywalker-Darth-Vader-600x338
I don't understand why people criticize Return of The Jedi so much.
The Ewoks are fun, Jabba's Palace is amazing, and the throne room scenes are pure kino.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 12:21:17 AM No.211464146
>>211461800 (OP)
Jabba is so fucking based, he might be my favorite sw creation
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 12:26:30 AM No.211464434
The speeder bike chase is so fucking cool.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 12:27:00 AM No.211464456
I love ROTJ but there's 2 issues that hold it back for me
>the Leia bikini thing is pretty stupid
>the luke/Leia sibling twist would be fine if not for the kiss in esb
Other than that it's fantastic
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 12:27:03 AM No.211464460
>>211461800 (OP)
The harmless bat lightsabers that just knock people over mostly.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 12:29:50 AM No.211464595
>>211461800 (OP)
You can know someone has shit taste if they hate RotJ and the prequels.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 12:30:20 AM No.211464616
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>>211464146
did you know one of the guys inside was smoking a cigar the whole time and blowing it up a tube for his pipe smoke
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 12:30:40 AM No.211464637
>>211461800 (OP)
2/3 of the plot is filler. Luke's story is kino, yeah, but the palace thing was a last minute addition and it shows, and the Ewok campaign side story DLC shit is awful.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 12:31:36 AM No.211464671
>>211461800 (OP)
It has the best space battle scenes of the entire franchise.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 12:31:50 AM No.211464683
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>>211461800 (OP)
Image how hard palpable-tein was in this scene.
For a Sith that must be the best porno, watching son and father fight.
For us it would like grooming and convincing an adult daughter and her mom, you are fucking both, to Lez out for the first time in front of us for a 3way pregame.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 12:32:25 AM No.211464701
>>211461800 (OP)
The stuff in Jabba's Palace is okay, but the Ewoks taking down the Imperial Elites is fucking dumb, and Han has nothing to do. Should've killed him off in TESB.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 12:34:02 AM No.211464794
>>211461800 (OP)

It's basically Lucas rushing things up because he got tired of Star Wars, his pet dream project, Skywalker Ranch (deluxe Film Studio for independent filmakers) becoming a nightmare, and the whole divorce thing. There was no reason to end the trilogy there and had no plan in doing so.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 12:34:45 AM No.211464820
>>211461800 (OP)
Throne room scenes are the greatest SW moments.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 12:34:45 AM No.211464822
>>211464701
>Should've killed him off in TESB.
That was the original idea, they had hired him for 2 movies only.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 12:34:50 AM No.211464829
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It's good because of this guy
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 12:35:27 AM No.211464864
>>211464456

Leia being Luke's sister is a retcon.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 12:37:33 AM No.211464977
>>211461800 (OP)
it's not as good as ESB
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 12:38:50 AM No.211465031
>>211464829
>characters you are slowly becoming
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 12:40:45 AM No.211465109
>>211465031
>slowly
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 12:42:26 AM No.211465181
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>>211461800 (OP)
>YEEEEEEEE-HAAAAAA
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 12:43:50 AM No.211465248
>>211465031
>ugly
>small
>beer belly
>laughs to himself
>eats like shit
>works for a fat sleazy cunt
>no gf
Damn he's literally me
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 12:43:55 AM No.211465252
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>>211464829
Ooda ohhhhhhh AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You can't unhear it now.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 12:45:32 AM No.211465325
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>>211465181
Jajajaja
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 12:45:38 AM No.211465331
>>211464829
Ayo is that my nigga, Salacious B. Crumb????
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 12:47:45 AM No.211465427
>Rise of Skywalker is relentlessly mocked for 'somehow Palpatine returned'
>People just give ROTJ a pass for 'somehow the Death Star returned'
Andor makes this even more hilarious in retrospect because it shows just how massive a fucking undertaking it wad for the Empire to build one Death Star
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 12:50:34 AM No.211465541
Throne room is probably the peak of the entire OT and Jabba's Palace is the most aesthetic sequence in all of star wars. Contrarians are desperate for it to be perceived as worse than episode 3 or whatever but its every bit as good as 4
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 12:51:00 AM No.211465560
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>>211465427

Yep. Although in its defence, it helps they didn't need to hide it and figure out how it would work a second time.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 12:52:36 AM No.211465627
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>>211465427
This guy watched Andor lmao
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 12:54:27 AM No.211465703
>>211465427
The difference was that in RotJ none of the characters drew attention to it (never mind outright stating it so bluntly and matter-of-factly as to verge on parody).
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 12:58:29 AM No.211465867
>>211461800 (OP)
It's definitely the weakest of the trilogy but still a great film
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 12:58:31 AM No.211465868
>>211461800 (OP)
>two of the three main characters stand around in front of a door doing nothing for 1/4th of the movie
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 1:02:17 AM No.211466023
>>211465427
Andor has no relevance to RotJ. They started building another station at some point just like laying down keels. Emperor uses it to swat the Rebels down and get a non robo apprentice. Hubris causes it all to backfire.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 1:02:58 AM No.211466053
>>211465703

Revenge of the Sith is the one that began with the implication that it took 20 years to build it.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 1:03:59 AM No.211466096
WE STAND HERE AMIDST MY KALKITE, NOT YOURS!
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 1:14:44 AM No.211466559
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A man denied his Kalkite
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 1:22:30 AM No.211466888
>>211464829
Salacious Crumb has to be the best Star Wars name
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 1:23:39 AM No.211466932
>>211461800 (OP)
/thread
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 1:29:11 AM No.211467164
Leia being lukes sister feels very desperate, like "last movie had a huge family twist, oh god we gotta have one too"
but overall yeah it's kinography naturally
I don't even mind the stupid fucking ewoks anymore. Having dumb stupid cute shit is part of star wars too even if it was never the part I gravitated towards
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 1:30:11 AM No.211467217
>>211465867
It's better than New Hope
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 1:31:12 AM No.211467262
>>211465427
>it's a massive undertaking to get the kyber crysal and all the bullshit needed to make the deathstar
>but then they did it and now they have it
non-issue
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 1:32:57 AM No.211467335
>>211467217
Nah, I think ANH is the best of the trilogy
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 1:33:02 AM No.211467341
>>211461800 (OP)
The Ewok sections drag like crazy. Other than that it's decent.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 1:35:22 AM No.211467444
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>>211465541
Gonk.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 1:36:20 AM No.211467483
1 w4DxUy0PMoqeq25UXfyL0g@2x why are you gay
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>>211464456
>the Leia bikini thing is pretty stupid
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 1:39:30 AM No.211467631
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>>211467444
Gonk.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 1:42:43 AM No.211467764
>>211467217
4 is boring
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 2:41:11 AM No.211470167
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>"They just came out of the TREE'S, man!"
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 2:42:12 AM No.211470211
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 2:55:35 AM No.211470860
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>>211470167
>>211470211
Ewok hunt on Battlefront 2 really helps give you a sense of how dangerous they can be.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 2:57:43 AM No.211470955
>>211461800 (OP)
George "Retard" Lucas felt a need to add Darth Vader screaming NOOOOOOO in the climax. What a hack idiot.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 3:06:22 AM No.211471336
>>211461800 (OP)
the middle of the movie sucks even if you like the ewoks. Harrison Ford began the long part of his career where he visibly didn't give a shit half the time for an excuse plot to give him and leia something to do. Fucking around in front of a big door set doing high school play tier skits for 30 minutes of the movie is awful
if you were an adult watching it for the first time the sister retcon would make your eyes roll out of your skull it's such a cheap script contrivance

that said it paid off the esoteric religious stuff well, jabba's palace was the absolute example of dumb fun with one of the greatest puppets in movie history, and the rest of the movie gave people what they wanted in the end so everyone forgave it
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 3:07:06 AM No.211471355
>>211461800 (OP)
>I like Jabbaโ€™s palace but it goes on for way too long
>The Ewoks are stupid care bear shit
>Muh second bigger Death Star
>Revealing Luke & Leia are siblings, the worst twist in the entirety of the series
Itโ€™s the weakest of the originals by far, the ending is amazing though & Sheev is an all time villain performance
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 3:08:37 AM No.211471406
>>211471336
*and the alec guiness ghost exposition is absolute prequel tier garbage, holy fuck does that suck away mysticism from the force at 1000 psi
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 3:10:56 AM No.211471486
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>>211461800 (OP)
>The Ewoks are fun, Jabba's Palace is amazing, and the throne room scenes are pure kino.
its what gives soul to the original trilogy
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 3:11:20 AM No.211471493
>>211464456
>>the Leia bikini thing is pretty stupid
You think Jabba was getting off when she was choking him.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 3:12:08 AM No.211471529
>>211471355
Jabbaโ€™s palace doesnโ€™t overstay its welcome any longer than Luke on Dagobah does in ESB. Iโ€™ve never gotten people who hated that stuff. They spent two movies establishing that Han owed Jabba debts, why wouldnโ€™t it get enough time?
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 3:12:51 AM No.211471563
>>211471493
she didnt know the neck folds of a Hutt are its genitals
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 3:14:42 AM No.211471635
>>211471493
ywn have a coked up Carrie Fisher in her lingerie strangle you
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 3:14:46 AM No.211471640
>>211465427
The Death Star being rebuilt is a bit silly, but itโ€™s mostly nullified by a few things:
1) Palpatine leaked the plans on purpose to draw the rebel fleet and leadership into an ambush
2) He sent the most elite unit of Stormtroopers the Empire has to intercept the Rebel infiltration team
3) He trapped the Rebel fleet between a shield thatโ€™ll immediately obliterate them upon contact and a massive imperial armada
4) Just in case: the Emperor utilized battle mediation to keep the tide of battle in his favor (and for those who say this is EU shit, itโ€™s clear the Emperorโ€™s influence is doing something, since imperial morale crumbles the second he dies).
5) Luke, the person who destroyed the Death Star last time, is preoccupied fighting his father.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 3:17:38 AM No.211471787
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>>211461800 (OP)
Because even to this day it has yet to turn a profit
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 3:18:21 AM No.211471814
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>>211461800 (OP)
>The Ewoks are fun
the movie feels like a parody whenever they're on screen
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 3:19:52 AM No.211471882
>>211471640
I don't usually shit on the nu death star because it's balanced between it being disappointing that they didn't think up a new cool sci-fi special effect thing and the realism that a big industrial empire really would just rebuild another big war machine if they lost one.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 3:38:16 AM No.211472629
>>211470955
Yep. I can stomach every other retarded, unnecessary addition he made over the years, but this one literally ruins the most important scene in all of SW.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 3:49:14 AM No.211473073
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>>211465427
Don't forgot the part where it was also far larger and partially constructed to the point of being fully functional in four years where the first one took closer to twenty to get operational.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 3:52:09 AM No.211473185
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>>211465560
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 4:23:38 AM No.211474422
>>211473073
>it was also far larger
>partially constructed to the point of being fully functional in four years
Neither of these are stated in the movie.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 4:40:47 AM No.211475120
>>211474422
That's what happens when you speed read the opening crawl.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 5:04:32 AM No.211476064
>>211471814
they fucked those guys up holy tamoly
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 5:36:50 AM No.211477244
>>211461800 (OP)
The Ewoks didn't belong in a Star Wars movie.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 5:47:01 AM No.211477661
>>211464456
>>the Leia bikini thing is pretty stupid
you gay ass faggot. Begone, the bikini was kino.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 5:53:03 AM No.211477849
Jabba's Palace is great but it doesn't really work as part of the movie. They bring back Han and that's about it. I think in an ideal time line they could've done something like released it with Indiana Jones as an extra presentation. Then give the rest of RotJ more time to actually flesh out the ewoks and give Han and Leia more stuff to do in the final battle rather than sit in front of a door.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 6:47:14 AM No.211479676
>>211464456
>>the Leia bikini thing is pretty stupid
bruh are you serious?
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 6:48:32 AM No.211479713
The Ewoks are super gay, it's insulting to the viewer to end your movie trilogy with a children's song sung by tiny bear people
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 6:50:31 AM No.211479777
>>211464683
holy shit
jerk off before posting here please
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 6:55:06 AM No.211479907
>>211470955
>>211472629
Yeah, I agree. George Lucas' additions to all of the OT are complete dogshit.
I'm glad I got to see the unaltered trilogy on VHS as a child.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 6:58:11 AM No.211479997
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>>211461800 (OP)
yah the throne room is goated fr, but wtf did the emperor have to tempt luke with? nigga never sought power unlike bitch ass anakin. bro was well-adjusted all things considered.
weakens the sequence a bit ngl
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:01:34 AM No.211480102
Ewoks are a pay off to the "Size Matters Not" stuff.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:02:51 AM No.211480143
>>211479997
>t wtf did the emperor have to tempt luke with? nigga never sought power unlike bitch ass anakin. bro was well-adjusted all things considered.
>weakens the sequence a bit ngl
this strengthens the sequence because it shows how pure hearted Luke is.
also, he tempted him with revenge
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:04:31 AM No.211480199
>>211471640
>(and for those who say this is EU shit, itโ€™s clear the Emperorโ€™s influence is doing something, since imperial morale crumbles the second he dies)
Or maybe they just saw their space station with hundreds of thousands of people on it that's also the seat of their government (who's signing the paychecks? now) blow the fuck up in the sky
>>211477849
100% correct, the disconnect between Jabba's and the rest of the movie is jarring as hell. It's a great sequence, it just feels sorta tacked on.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:04:42 AM No.211480205
>the Leia bikini thing is pretty stupid
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:04:51 AM No.211480214
>>211461800 (OP)
>The Ewoks are fun
I guess, but they're a whole race of baby furballs. Feels infantile rather than the fun campiness of the rest of the OT, and they take out stormtroopers with sticks which is pure slapstick. It just doesn't fit with the space battles and scenes with the Emperor.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:07:48 AM No.211480311
>>211471882
The cool new special effect was having ships fly into the Death Star to destroy it
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:10:12 AM No.211480397
>>211465325
>yfw this guy was a race traitor because Sullust was a pro-Empire world
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:11:36 AM No.211480450
>>211480214
This. Suddenly the war against the Empire turns into some H.R. Puffinstuff shit, and Han and Leia are left standing around being impressed by how great the teddy bears are.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:14:00 AM No.211480539
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>>211480214
>>211480450
bro, it's a kid's movie
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:31:16 AM No.211481061
>>211461800 (OP)
the Empire getting beaten by Ewoks is kind of retarded but the rest is kino
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:34:20 AM No.211481153
I loved the space battle. As children My friends and I would make little pillow and cardboard cockpits and we would play it out all the time. That shit was so kino.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:54:42 AM No.211481793
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>>211461800 (OP)
It's just the anti-Lucas circlejerk, they think Lucas had too much involvement in this one therefore it's the "worst" of the OT.
They suck of ESB for the same reasoning, they think Lucas had the least involvement there, so it's magically the best one, ignoring the fact that the story, the characters were all done by Lucas and he was the one who saved the production disaster Gary Kurtz caused.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:56:25 AM No.211481858
>>211464456
>the Leia bikini thing is pretty stupid
happy pride month bro
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:56:42 AM No.211481865
>>211461800 (OP)
Would it actually have been perfect if the indigenous race were tougher looking instead of teddy bears?
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 8:00:37 AM No.211482004
>>211481865
partially (the original plan was to have wookies) but I also think another problem is they made them way to backwards in terms of tech, everybody knows the excuse of it being based of muh vietcong, but the thing is your average cong had shit like AKs and explosives, most of them weren't cavemen tier, and in this case its even worse since one side are literal elite space troops with lasers
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 8:51:48 AM No.211483365
>>211480102
they were supposed to be the veitnamese during the vietnam war, defeating the larger stronger US(empire)
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 8:59:00 AM No.211483541
>>211477849
>Indiana Jones + Palace double feature
I can see it. Open Raiders with a long classic credit intro with an overture, finish with a quick THE END, fade to black, and just slam right into the prologue crawl with the Star Wars theme blaring. Would've been insane if people didn't know it was coming.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 9:01:03 AM No.211483596
>>211461800 (OP)
People generally like Phantom Menace and RotJ, it's just that they have one nitpick like Ewoks or Jar Jar and that ends up taking up so much of the discussion.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 9:04:56 AM No.211483701
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>>211481865
It would have been sick if it was a society of predators.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 9:13:27 AM No.211483895
>>211479997
to me the thing the emperor was tempting Luke with was that the rebellion was doomed due to the entire thing being a trap so he may as well join the darkside for having nothing left.

it was a long shot but if it fails to work then he can just have Luke killed like he tried to.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 9:14:05 AM No.211483911
Stop watching Starshit.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 9:17:48 AM No.211484022
>>211461800 (OP)
Jabba's Palace and the Throne Room are great but it's pretty slack in the middle where they're just sort of fucking around
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 9:20:24 AM No.211484099
The end battle was supposed to be over the capital world Hadd Abaddon. Endor was meant to be the forest moon used as a religious sanctuary, which is why the emperor called it the Sanctuary Moon
That's why the rebels won after blowing up the death star, it was meant to be a last ditch battle to seize the capital.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 9:21:31 AM No.211484127
>>211467164
The ewoks were fine, they were played pretty straight. Not made out to be stupid or goofy.
I think I remember reading Luke's sister was supposed to be a totally new character in a different part of the galaxy
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 9:23:47 AM No.211484188
>>211477849
I feel like the Ewok stuff was tacked on. Pure filler. Jabba felt substantial by contrast.
Where do they even go after leaving Jabba's palace? It's a blank for me all the way to the final battle.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 9:25:57 AM No.211484249
>>211465427
It makes perfect sense because the production lines were already in place.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 10:02:06 AM No.211485017
>>211464683
The Acolyte had a sith groomer plotline. We could have had corrupt sisterly love in Star Wars but you faggots called it woke and it never got another season.
Replies: >>211486853
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 10:19:00 AM No.211485338
>>211464456
Echuta
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 10:21:44 AM No.211485398
i think its great other than rehashing the death star and the Leia twist seems forced
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 10:26:18 AM No.211485486
>>211472629
what he did? what the fuck
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 10:40:49 AM No.211485768
>>211477849
Jedi needed less runtime not more
Replies: >>211486487
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 10:44:00 AM No.211485831
>>211480102
It's also the same thing as the ents from LOTR: good will have friends it doesn't know were there
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 10:47:33 AM No.211485904
RotJ issues:
Recycled Death Star
Lots of new ship models for a battle with more scale but there's no real order of battle and events are totally disjointed, poor storytelling
Ewok's low tech and claustrophobic (read no wide shots with lots of stuff in them) forest setting as cost saving is apparent, battle on Endor is less impressive than Hoth
Han has almost fucking nothing to do all film, 11th hour will he / won't he with Harrison Ford's availability benches a fan favorite character
Carrie Fisher without Kershner beating a decent performance out of her is pretty fucking bad
RotJ Strengths:
Bond opening sequence with Jabba really works
Throne Room is a worthy follow up to the duel in Cloud City and if you put on blinders to focus on this part as the real follow up to Empire, RotJ still works
Replies: >>211486400
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 10:57:10 AM No.211486054
>>211461800 (OP)
The middle drags out
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 11:00:35 AM No.211486117
>>211464456
Actually kill yourself faggot
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 11:06:10 AM No.211486196
>>211464456
nu/tv/ falls for the shittiest bait
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 11:07:28 AM No.211486219
>>211464701
>Han has nothing to do.
define having something to do
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 11:08:43 AM No.211486240
>>211464977
it has lower lows but also higher heights and that's why i prefer it
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 11:11:24 AM No.211486280
>>211465427
>mr president sir the germans found out about the manhattan project and blew up our test site. the prototypes are gone
>ah well then we'll stop pursuing the technology of the nuclear bomb. dang it!
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 11:13:48 AM No.211486312
>>211465427
>somehow
they show you the thing in the process of being built in the very first seconds of the movie
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 11:14:54 AM No.211486329
>>211465427
Anon obvuiously knows absolutely nothing about large construction projects, supply lines and military contractors.
Once you've got everything in place to build one, building a second one is simple as shit. not to mention by the time of RoTJ the Empire had swept away the last remnents of democracy so they didn't need to be remotely coy about it.
And why build just one when you can build two at twice the price?
Replies: >>211493487
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 11:15:41 AM No.211486344
>>211464456
Is this bait?
Kys regardless
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 11:17:20 AM No.211486365
>>211475120
>even more powerful
okay speed reader
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 11:19:46 AM No.211486400
>>211485904
>Han has almost fucking nothing to do all film,
define something to do
Replies: >>211486451
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 11:24:01 AM No.211486451
>>211486400
Something other than sitting in front of a door for 40 minutes.
Replies: >>211486891
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 11:24:56 AM No.211486464
>>211465560
>>211473185
If they didn't make the Death Star 2 bigger it would've been completed and thus protected from fighter sized ships entering it and blowing up it's reactor.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 11:26:07 AM No.211486487
>>211485768
It feels like that because after Jabba's palace the movie has to basically start again and now they try to fit a 120min movie into 90min. There's simply way too much going on for it flow properly, things basically need to happen quickly to the point where it has to rely on ass pulls like Chewie becoming retarded and wanting to snack on some raw meat he found on stick in the woods just to get the team to the Ewoks.

Remove Jabba's palace there's 30 minutes gone right away and there's more time to actually fit everything into the movie properly.
Replies: >>211487835
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 11:54:41 AM No.211486853
ashoka sabine vs shin_thumb.jpg
ashoka sabine vs shin_thumb.jpg
md5: beda72d43cbe2535e5cecf054d7a2e20๐Ÿ”
>>211485017
Isn't there are lesbian sith plotline in Ahsoka? This bitch and the other one
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 11:57:41 AM No.211486891
>>211486451
that you have to resort to hyperbole tells me you know you're wrong
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 1:06:19 PM No.211487835
>>211486487
I'd cut out most of the fleet shit
>but my general ackbar
Fuck him, he doesn't need to talk to the main characters that much
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 1:09:14 PM No.211487887
>>211461800 (OP)
Sorry but ROTJ is extremely flawed
>the plan to rescue Han is convoluted and makes no damn sense
>Boba Fett is killed in the most unsatisfactory way
>Han is pointless for most the film despite how hard the characters work to save him.
>the second death star is such a lazy rehash even if the space battle is fucking amazing
>Endor is poorly paced and takes up too much of the run time.
>The ewoks may be cute but they really aren't compelling enough to believe they could defeat the Empire
>Yoda and especially Ben are sort of shoehorned in just to reinforce that Vader is indeed Luke's dad rather than to give any sort of last words of wisdom.
>Endor is a rather visually monotonous environment and doesn't lend itself as well to the scifi setting as Tatoonie, Hoth, or cloud city.
>I really hate that fucking Yub Nub song. It was Jedi Rocks before Jedi Rocks
Now to be fair just about everything revolving around Luke redeeming Vader is fucking peak star wars. Those scenes alone are what elevate Return despite all of its numerous problems.
Replies: >>211488115 >>211488165
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 1:13:53 PM No.211487937
>>211464701
>The stuff in Jabba's Palace is okay
Luke's whole plan is entirely nonsensical.
Replies: >>211487982 >>211488362
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 1:17:25 PM No.211487982
>>211487937
It worked didn't it?
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 1:25:35 PM No.211488115
>>211487887
>movie is bad because Glup Shitto died in an unsatisfactory way
?
Replies: >>211488520
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 1:28:44 PM No.211488161
>>211461800 (OP)
>are fun
opinion discarded
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 1:28:52 PM No.211488165
>>211487887
>Boba Fett
I'm sick to death of hearing about this fucking mook
Fuck him
Replies: >>211488520
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 1:41:46 PM No.211488362
>>211487937
It makes more sense if you assume Leia and Han weren't supposed to be captured and Luke has to make up a new plan. The actual plan would be for him to show up and basically tell Jabba not to go after Solo again by offering him some cash and if that fails he's already planted the lightsabre on R2 and Chewie can be freed by Lando and those guys would wreck the palace.
Replies: >>211489227
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 1:45:50 PM No.211488426
>>211464595
>>211461800 (OP)
The Ewoks were cringe. They should have had an actual warrior race
Replies: >>211489213
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 1:47:55 PM No.211488455
>>211464456
the children are so fucking doomed
the feminists have beaten it into them that sex is bad
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 1:49:28 PM No.211488482
adam-zolnierek-ewok-4
adam-zolnierek-ewok-4
md5: c8b357242bc02fad7903aa9e02174498๐Ÿ”
If the Ewoks (like the Rebels) were based on the Vietcong, why not give them blasters?
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 1:51:52 PM No.211488520
>>211488115
>>211488165
Look, he is presented as a serious threat and is killed by complete accident by a blind guy. It is unsatisfactory in the context of the film and has nothing to do with Boba Fett just being a retarded fan favorite. It would have been as if the Rancor slipped on a banana peel and died.
Replies: >>211495582 >>211495645 >>211496090
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 1:53:03 PM No.211488540
>>211466888
checked
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 2:29:59 PM No.211489213
>>211488426
They were a warrior race
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 2:31:02 PM No.211489227
>>211488362
Yeah this I can get. It's a series of backup plans. No one was planning to end up on the sand barge with leia in a slut outfit.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 3:22:10 PM No.211490090
I know that the idea of Leia being Luke's sister came from ROTJ, but I feel like ESB also establishes she was force-sensitive because it's implied Luke called out to her using the force
Replies: >>211490613
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 3:44:24 PM No.211490487
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I don't care about the ewoks, I just found the story to be stupid. The Throne Room is great, but the context is retarded, as is Darth Vader's redemption. Han Solo's inclusion in the film despite having nothing to do except... disable a shield generator that isn't located on/within the very thing it shields(???) is dumb as fuck.
It's half adventure serial which is awkward coming off of Empire Strikes Back, and midway through the main protagonist abandons it to continue the plot that could've already been concluded.
The entire story should've been, at most, two movies, and that's if "Star Wars" was written with the presumption of a Part Two, which it wasn't, so the whole overarching story becomes a tonal clusterfuck that doesn't flow properly.
Space Kikes: The Trilogy.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 3:46:04 PM No.211490513
>>211464456
There's quite literally no reason for Luke and Leia to be related. It serves no major purpose in the story and actually makes Vader look like a retard in retrospect.
J.J. Abrams was the perfect choice for TFA. George Lucas is the OG mystery box "writer".
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 3:50:51 PM No.211490613
>>211490090
You don't have to be force sensitive to have the force used on you. I mean, it's called The Force. You force it on people. Mindrape doesn't need midochlorian consent.
That being said: Empire Strikes Back is stupid as fuck in its own right, but not really for that.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 3:52:30 PM No.211490643
>>211479997
Did you even watch the movie in between tik tok seshes, zoom zoom? He told Luke everything was a trap, and all his friends were going to die while he sat hopelessly and watched. Palpy was trying to break him and make him give in to hatred and tap into the dark side so he could gauge how useful Anakin's progeny would be.
Replies: >>211490764
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 3:58:02 PM No.211490764
Steph Stamps
Steph Stamps
md5: d5f891494da035647a0a327541d41ae4๐Ÿ”
>>211490643
>Luke, I orchestrated you leaving the rebellion for no discernible reason so I could bait them into a trap consisting of nothing more than a standard counteroffensive, it was me Luke, I was behind it all, what's the next step in my master plan
Whoa, Palpatine really was behind it all, if "all" was fucking nothing.
Replies: >>211491860
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 4:07:15 PM No.211490989
>>211480539
kids didnโ€™t like ewoks
george is a retard
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 4:12:00 PM No.211491135
>>211461800 (OP)
If the Ewoks had been Wookies like it was originally supposed to be, the criticism for RoTJ would drop considerably.
But George wanted his toy sales.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 4:36:47 PM No.211491860
>>211490764
It would've worked if it wasn't for those pesky Ewoks and their talking Wookie.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 4:48:29 PM No.211492204
>>211461800 (OP)
I just donโ€™t like the second Death Star
I donโ€™t mind Ewoks but a planet of Wookiee would have been better
Replies: >>211492236
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 4:49:17 PM No.211492236
>>211492204
Just think of them as baby wookies.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 4:51:55 PM No.211492316
>>211467164
Leia being a Skywalker felt like an excuse as to why the hero didnโ€™t end up with the girl
They could have ended it with a more โ€œsearchersโ€ style ending where Luke just feels like he doesnโ€™t fit in with society anymore after every thing heโ€™s gone through but his character was never that dark
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 4:55:36 PM No.211492420
>>211461800 (OP)
Because the bandwagon.
Really the biggest problem with Jedi is once they get to endor and luke fucks off to find Vader Hand and leia have nothing to do, and during the big epic climax of the film it just keeps cutting back tot he two of them standing in front of a door mugging for the camera and spouting pointless dialogue to make it seem like they have some business in the plot.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 4:58:04 PM No.211492503
>>211465427
Everyone complained about it being ANOTHER death star.
Its just tolerated better because at least they made a cool unique interesting prop to distinguish it from the original and it literally exists in the story to be bait to draw out the last of the rebel alliance.
Replies: >>211492745
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 5:06:00 PM No.211492745
1748980175647115
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>>211492503
Why didn't they just send out a gorillion probe droids again? Seems like it'd be more cost effective.
or just, you know, take your fleet of Star Destroyers and just orbital nuke any unalligned/suspected rebel planet.
Replies: >>211493080
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 5:16:49 PM No.211493080
>>211492745
I didn't write the script.
I'm telling you what happened in it.
In the original script for return of the jedi, back when it had wookies, the emperor wasn't building a new death star, he was building 50 new death stars that were around endor like a ring.
Replies: >>211493242
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 5:22:31 PM No.211493242
>>211493080
Yeah I know (it's you, Lawrence, you hack fraud) I'm just saying it's not really forgiveable. It's just as lazy as TFA. People don't forgive it for any other reason than nostalgia goggles. Nobody cares that it was a "new prop" they whipped up in a weekend or that it had relevance in the story, retarded as it were. I mean, the same applies to Starkiller Base.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 5:25:24 PM No.211493333
>>211464637
>the palace thing was a last minute addition
How so? The first day of filming ROTJ was a scene of them leaving Tatooine during a sandstorm (which didn't make the final cut)
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 5:30:17 PM No.211493487
>>211486329
>And why build just one when you can build two at twice the price
Kek. Based space cancer guy
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 5:43:55 PM No.211493880
>>211461800 (OP)
I wish Mike would take off the nostalgia goggles and do one last Plinkett review of ROTJ.

It has a lot of fucking issues. Death Star 2.0, Leia being Luke's sister, Ewoks beating the Empire finest, weaker effects than even ANH (really terrible backgrounds) dialogue was weaker than ANH/ESB etc.

Jabba's palace (even if the plan is wonky) and Luke/Vader really REALLY help save this movie from being prequel level bad.
ROTS is probably a bit better overall than ROTJ
Replies: >>211494773
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 6:08:56 PM No.211494768
>>211471355
>>211471529
The problem is they didn't think the next movie would wrap up the franchise when writing Han being frozen. Lucas originally wanted like 5-6 films.

So spending like 30% of the film on rescuing Han (who doesn't really do much in the end) is a pretty big flaw for the final film in the now trilogy.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 6:09:03 PM No.211494773
>>211493880
they did a commentary track
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 6:09:12 PM No.211494779
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>>211465325
>people shat on George for Japanese Aliens, Nigga Aliens, and Jew Aliens in Phantom Menace
>nobody noticed the Green Slave Dancer (black woman), small Hispanic Alien that speaks total gibberish, or African Teddybear Bushmen
Sasuga media literacy tards
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 6:09:26 PM No.211494788
How did the Empire make a second Death Star so quickly, in secret? There are several books and shows that break down the logistics of the first Death Star construction, but none touch on the second Death Star.
Replies: >>211495009
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 6:09:56 PM No.211494806
>>211465427
Boba going out like a bitch would be a complaint today similar to what happened to Phasma and Snoke. Nostalgia heals all wounds.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 6:10:12 PM No.211494813
>>211464616
Based
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 6:10:20 PM No.211494819
>>211472629
>>211479907
You can still get the VHS's in perfect quality for like $8 a pop. Its not too late to pull the trigger Anon
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 6:15:17 PM No.211495009
>>211494788
What makes you think it was done quickly? What makes you think construction of the second Death Star wasn't committed during the first one's run?
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 6:31:41 PM No.211495582
>>211488520
>It would have been as if the Rancor slipped on a banana peel and died

https://youtu.be/g81PoGKO0qA?t=384
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 6:33:41 PM No.211495645
>>211488520
It's like if Darth Maul had died because he just slipped and fell into the pit.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 6:48:35 PM No.211496090
>>211488520
It also makes lando look like a bumbling boob instead of a cool badass who ran with han solo.
Only thing I can think of is that he wanted a lighter tone where one of our protagonists doesn't just ice a guy when he gets the drop on him.
But then moments later we get leia in the slavekini graphically choking a giant muppet to death while another muppet eats the eyes out of threepio.