Continued from the other thread.
PS: These are things known for decades people pointed out. However star wars fanboys wil continue to cope or humiliate themselves by trying to defend this shit.

>>211449530 (OP)
Star Wars fanboys are mentally ill.
>wtf have people been watching
Something else.

These are like 3 movies who are literally generic action. Nothing of value is in them if you contrast it to real SF.

While the plot holes in the OT are not as bad as in the later movies they still exist.
PHYSICS VIOLATION:
>Worms in space! And we can go out into outer space (asteroid) with nothing to protect our eyes or skin from hard vacuum!

Movie destroys its own logic:
>Before the holdo maneuver
>The rebels magically have a magic energy canon who literally can disable a entire star destroyer rendering the existence of the entire imperial fleet of super heavy ships literally pointless
>Simply keep on shooting them with magic EMP plasma balls and you can destroy the empire in no time.
>The rebels never use this magic canon again or think about making more of them.

>Empire violating all logic and physics the empire somehow needs to land walkers on the surface instead of doing orbital bombardment.
>Walkers who are trivial to take out.

Do we continue?

Star Wars owns this board and website and thus, it owns your ass.
Deal with it.

>>211485956 (OP)

And the cope:
>>211463253
>>>Empire violating all logic and physics the empire somehow needs to land walkers on the surface instead of doing orbital bombardment.
>
>The Rebels had anti-orbital strike defenses in the form of forcefields and an Ion Cannon, that's why the Imps deployed the walkers to take those out.

COPE this is simply absurd nonsense. There is no way a planet is some magic fortress like star wars like to pretend planets are extremely vulnerable to bombardment. and once you have taken out the ships in orbit the planet either surrenders or gets bombarded.

>forcefields
Made up nonsense star wars fanboys love to pretend there are forcefields in SW however there are none or what is is very questionable.

>forcefields
Who are such a joke that slow moving walkers can simple penetrate them however not orbital bombardment.

If you want to dig up a movie made 19 years after the OT in 1999 remember that is also absurd and why star wars will forever be FANTASY (this is a dirty word) not SF.

Somehow in a futuristic world with robots and also guided missiles the other side can not develop a robotic missile who slows down to crawling speed (see Elon rockets + The expanse) and after it penetrates this bullshitium field is speeds up. This entire franchise is retarded cope.

> Ion Cannon
Ah yes the magic EMP snot throwers... who despite flying slower then an arrow can hit a star destroyer in orbit, and the star destroyer is disabled..... And the rebels never think of weaponizing this magic EMP or this technology literally making the empires super heavy fleet literally absurd and something that will be destroyed in no time..... bullshit is because George quickly made a bootleg Flash Gordon movie like all the facts show. Daily reminder that the action in Flash Gordon takes place on 1 (ONE) Planet.

Simply admit that all of this

1/2

>>211485977
Star Shit is a dead franchise and only Yidsney shills prop it up though.

>>211485983
2/2

>deployed the walkers to take those out.
Question what are the effects of magic EMP on the walkers? And why did the rebels never shoot them? If you say they are immune the question arises why the FUCKEN STAR DESTROYERS are not immune and if they can not be made immune because shit you pull out of your ass then the empire should not use them. This is a line of thinking you can not win. And you clowns think the holdo maneuver is some shocking pothole.

The truth is that star wars was always nonsense and whatever hot shit George puled out of his own as to make a dumb action movie. The internal logic of the OT makes no sense whatsoever on all levels. To see far more realistic SF see the expanse.

>>211486063
>>211463493

>They are able to survive "outside" with only oxygen masks because the inside of the worm has an atmosphere.

I will side step deeply questionable evolution and biology and concentrate on this impossible nonsense.

Look the star wars fanboy in full display to defend the silly fantasy of star wars he needs to literally pretend the movie does not do what it actually does.

>They are able to survive "outside" with only oxygen masks because the inside of the worm has an atmosphere.
When was the last time you watched this movie? Like serious question star wars fanboys always defend star wars and literally never watch star wars.

Because this is fucken impossible!

>They are able to survive "outside" with only oxygen masks because the inside of the worm
Only according to everyone in that scene they do not know they are inside a worm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That is the whole idea!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111ONEONEONE
They go outside think this is some asteroid and only then realize it is a worm.

So either in the star wars FANTASY people can exist in hard vacuum only with gas masks or this scene did not happen CLOWN_EMOJI. Pick your poison.

>>211486030
You know nearly every movie has flaws. Especially if it is SF the potential to fuck up is very great.
It be OK if star wars fanboys admitted this of their own OT.

However what makes this literally insane is that they pretend like the OT is some secret religious relic and like not watching it is heresy or some shit. Look at the previous thread:

>>211449530
>wtf have people been watching

Star wars fanboys are a very strange breed.

Star Wars is the arcade racing game of sci-fi logic. It ain't a simulation nor pretends to be, it just wants to be fun with its rules, even if they make no sense in reality.

>>211485956 (OP)
Sounds like genz brain rot. Go back to vidya

>>211486276
See: >>211486161

The problem is that star wars fanboys pretend like the OT are 9999% perfection or some shit.

>Star Wars is the arcade racing game of sci-fi logic
TO make a contrast a movie I have zero problems because of how absurd and how obviously it is a space fantasy age of sail in .... sky ocean (?) is treasure planet.

The movie also fixes the book who is cringe and the authors phobia of cripples.
>Watch out for the cyborg
Is better then
>Watch out for the man with 1 leg

Also captain flint getting explained in the 1 scene and not like 35 pages into the book is better so is Flint having some alien warp gate tech on a alien planet and not simply having treasure just because.

However Star Wars fanboys literally can not say
>This is absurd because it is space fantasy that makes no sense if you start thinking about it
Like they are unable to admit this.

>>211485956 (OP)
context is important. you're not old enough to remember how cool star wars used to be.

>>211486509
>you're not old enough
YES.

>not old enough to remember how cool star wars
Was it for 10 year old kids in 1979?
Can you explain why it was le good back in the day?

>Star Wars was always le bad!
Kill yourself reddit nigger.

>>211486564
there was nothing like it back in the day. maybe battlestar galactica or buck rogers or some shit. also you couldn't just watch stuff whenever wherever you had to catch reruns on the television or rent a VHS. culture wasn't as fractured either with a million things going on at once, was like a thing everybody kinda could talk about. it's easy to nitpick shit apart watching it a million times on youtube but that wasn't how it used to be

>>211485956 (OP)
Well that's just stupidly incorrect, the original trilogy was ALWAYS good.

didn't read the rest of that pointless waste of time. you sound like a sad miserable lonely zoomer who doesn't even have a friend to go to the movies with

>>211486161
Are these fanboys in the room with us now? Because all I see is paragraph after paragraph of shit I didn't read coming from (You)

>>211486719
>also you couldn't just watch stuff whenever wherever you had to catch reruns on the television or rent a VHS. culture wasn't as fractured either with a million things going on at once, was like a thing everybody kinda could talk about
I know how it was back in the day (90s) now explain how it was cool.

It was literally less important then Ghostbusters.

>it's easy to nitpick shit apart watching it a million times on youtube but that wasn't how it used to be
It was never anything interesting about it after the first viewing.

>Be me watch on 90s TV Gremlins 1 and 2
>Be me watch on 90s TV Star Trek movies
>Be me watch on 90s TV Back to the future trilogy
>Be me watch on 90s TV Terminator 1 and 2
>Be me watch on 90s TV Ghost Busters 1 and 2
>Be me watch on 90s TV Star wars OT

There was nothing special about it. It is generic.

>maybe battlestar galactica
Battlestar galactica is literally bootleg Star Wars!

>it a million times on youtube
!!! ????
You can watch Star Wars on youtube??? !!!


>it's easy to nitpick shit apart watching it a million times
Not to insult you however this looks like a you problem like your IQ is very low special boy. Because back in the day nerd culture was talking and often analyzing the logic of SF. WE used to talk on these subjects and someone noticed a problem.

Like the death star makes no sense whatsoever
>Yes we are the galactic empire!
>WE rule 1000 planets!
>WE build a death star to blow up a planet that has 0.000001% rebels on it
>We now only have 999 planets
>YEY We are le smart!

>it's easy to nitpick shit apart watching it a million times on
Is this projection? Because Star Wars fanboys are the ones who literally made a entire saga about how the last jedi is a cinematic disaster because 1 dagger vanishes in 1 scene that you only notice if you freeze frame every fucken frame of that fight!

>>211486719
>there was nothing like it back in the day.
Except star trek TOS on TV.... before starwars.....

>>211486963
>didn't read the rest of
>>211487226
>didn't read

You do not need to congratulate me on defeating you in a debate so hard. Like anon have some dignity!

>I don't read your augments!
>I am right!
>You are the zoomer!

>>211487493

>>211487507

>Calls Star Wars fans obsessive whiny retards
>Made this thread along with a previous one just seething on Star Wars and its fans

>>211487507
>one has multiple pages of explanation to justify the Deus Ex Machina
>"sOmEhOw pAlPaTiNe rEtUrNeD"

Correct. Lucas just plagiarised Kurosawa, Herbert, French comics and few more things.

star wars has always been a few very fun and interesting ideas marred by flawed execution and dubious morals

space knights who use laser swords are fucking cool
ww2 dogfighting and bombers in space are cool
smugglers and pirates in space are cool

there is a reverence towards the old films which i think is a bit silly and hypocritical though. why is yoda a puppet? to sell toys, why is there a beauty shot of 5 distinct looking bounty hunters? to sell toys. all of these films are the same anon take the damn nostalgia goggles off

>>211487777
Imagine defending this star wars shit.
Like imagine.

>"sOmEhOw pAlPaTiNe rEtUrNeD"
Imagine making this argument.

>Whats that some pilot is not all knowing and explaining every detail in the movie?
>Cinematic DISASTER!

>"sOmEhOw
The movie says he used clones....
Imagine being a star wars fanboy!

>>one has multiple pages of explanation
Imagine wanting multiple minutes of additional information (because you where to retarded to understand or remember when the movie did say clones) in a 2h movie.

Let me make a prediction
A) The movie makes a 15 minute detailed explanation of how it works and all
>REEEE I am not retarded movie! This is bad stop explaining the obvious!
>This movie is a cinematic disaster!

C) The movie does not explain anything
>REEEE explain this to me movie! I need to know!
>This movie is a cinematic disaster!

Because B happened where the movie says he used clones. However 1 pilot guy not being a all knowing plot explanation device makes this a cinematic disaster.

You people are a joke!

Imagine posting this argument instead of pointing out other REAL problems in the movie like the how a ultra mega evil space wizard who can take down feats with his lightning somehow needs death star lasers on every one of his ships.

This is why star wars fanboys are so crazy.

damn star wars got someone really fucking butthurt lmao
take a whiff of this OP
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>>211487820
>Correct. Lucas just plagiarised Kurosawa, Herbert, French comics and few more things.
WHAT?

Star wars is LITERALLY bootleg Flash Gordon!
LITERALLY!

Not only are scenes lifted one by one and tropes lifted 1 by one Lukas LITERALLY planed to make a FLASH GORDON movie and was unable to get the rights owners to agree so he made his own Flash Gordon with some minor changes. And named it Star Wars!

>>211487929
I agree 90% with you however:
>why is yoda a puppet?
HUH? Because CGI did not exist in the 80s???
Because they did not want him to be played by a guy in makeup?

Picture related the only other option to make yoda if not a puppet.

>>211487587
>>Calls Star Wars fans obsessive
Show where I did this.
I wait.

Oh look it never happened!

>Made this thread
Because you retarded did shit up my feed with 2h long """"reviews""" who are pointless shit and 8h long live screams of reacting to nu-star wars who are all pointless shit!

>Made this thread
Because you retards also shit up /tv/ repeating your retarded opinions your retarded youtubers did give you!

>>211488097
I did say "and few more things"

>>211488208
>I did say "and few more things"
It is literally 90% Flash Gordon + 10% WW2 dogfights.

Do I need to list it all?

>>211485956 (OP)
See the truth: >>211487818

>>211488208
>>211488237
The only thing that I did not account for is the force however that is retarded shit so LITERALLY no one cares.

>>211488261
>Shapes exist!
Are Bees the jews of nature?
Is Jupiter the jew planet?

>>211485956 (OP)
you're confused, star wars was always fantasy primarily, it's literally about saving a princess while using magic - the force - it's not trying to be scifi, the setting is just alien

>>211488615
Once again the point is that star wars fanboys think the OT is like some religious experience or some shit.- it's not trying to be scifi,
>- it's not trying to be scifi,
Except FTL and planets and space travel.


Why did Lucas not make a fantasy like LOTR then?

>>211488180
there is a bit of a parallel for this in the first film, where jabba the hutt was originally played by a pretty good character actor called declan mulholland from doctor who. he was later replaced by a puppet and lucas told a self-serving story about how it was always his intention or something.
lucas likes puppets and digital characters for cost-cutting reasons

so it's a fantasy universe, but it uses sci-fi aesthetics. but there is no difference anywhere you go in starwars. it doesn't matter if they're on the desert planet or the ice planet. it just looks different in the movie. no one ever talks about logistics, transportation, food, new technology/old technology. heat and food are never mentioned. trade, travel, time all things taken for granted.

in star wars the bad guys just have big ships and you accept it. the good guys just magically acquire lightsabers and you accept it. what does vader do when he takes off the suit? it doesn't matter. in the luke deepfakes threads anon's were talking about luke is a mass murderer for killing innocents on the death star.
they're never shown though. because they don't exist. how does that overwhelming battle station work? it just does. you don't need to worry about it.

your view was a shared one back when standards for sci fi (like solaris) were higher. critics disliked how flippant and dumbed down star wars was.

>>211488718
Scifi focus on technological aspects and science of the world. Star Wars has never explained anything EVER, except if it has to do with the force which is fantasy. It’s primarily a fantasy but you could call it a sci-fi and no one would really care idk why you’re sperging over it

>>211488202
>still seething

>>211488718
> only medieval looking worlds are fantasy
> basedface.jpg

holy shit you're retarded

>>211489033
>Scifi focus on technological aspects and science of the world.
A gigantic planet killing space station is not technology.

Sci-fi is about strange rules and strange info
Fantasy is about special people, "chosen ones"
If Star Wars was sci-fi the rebels would have been worried about spaceship fuel and how to turn the Empire's technology against it.
In Star Wars giant conflicts are settled by a swordfight against the emperor over domination of magical powers.