Something For the Dads edition

Even the BBC itself is taking the piss out of the state of Doctor Who.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0beJsOvRZX0

Is it canceled yet?

>>211502089
They'll still renew it thoughbeit.

Doctor Who peaked here.

>>211502399
Not officially, but it's on an indefinite hiatus (and that's a good thing)

>>211502667
Doctor Who peaked with Eccleston.

>>211502667
Doctor Who peaked here.

>>211503711
>shortest serving Doctor
>takes the weight of a cancelled show on his back
>builds it back up to a viable brand again
>refuses to elaborate
>leaves
We never knew what we lost with Chad Eccleston.

>>211501984 (OP)
Too bad about the accent though.

>>211504328
That's not even her real voice.

Eleven was my Doctor. Watching his period of the show at a formative time in my life changed me. It made me believe that I, as a nerdy skinny autistic kid, could be a hero. Here was this eccentric person, irreverent and empathetic and out of step with social norms, but he was loved by his friends and capable of affecting great change. Matt Smith was the man who taught me not to fade into the background and I will always be grateful to him for that.

>>211501984 (OP)
What does "andies" refer to?

>>211502667
>spent his life moping around going into fetal position whenever someone called him "Doctor"
>more geriatric than firsty
I would be ashamed of that part of my life too, desu.

>>211504372
Well, modern Doctor Who says that if you're not gay enough then you're not good enough, sorry

>>211504497
Andeez nuts

>>211504372
I love Matt Smith for this exact reason. His Doctor contributed to my own personality as cringe as it sounds. I don't know what kid would want to be like that Zesty Nigga thoughbeit.

>>211504369
I know

>>211502089
You can tell they didn't actually watch any of the new series because the guy doing the voice has got Gatwa muddled up with Cummings doing his Mr Ring-a-ding voice.

>>211502667
i thought this was going to be Doctor Nasty

>>211505265
No, they definitely watched it because they called out Kate calling everyone the Doctor's children.

>According to the source the Series 2 finale was set to introduce a new Time Lord villain known only as The Villain before major disruption behind the scenes including the collapse of the Disney deal, forced last minute rewrites. A former Academy classmate of the Doctor, Master, and Rani. Supposedly a shy, kind hearted student, The Villain was bullied relentlessly. The Doctor was his only friend, until the young Master manipulated him into turning away. Rejected and obsessed, and trying to be like the Doctor, The Villain spent centuries following the Doctor across time and space, trying to prove he was just as good as him, or a better nemesis than the Master. Early drafts suggested major changes to the Time War arc, where it would be revealed that the entire Time War was started by The Villain in order to get the Doctor's attention.
The character was intended as a metaphor for homophobia and internalised rejection. He was flamboyant, unstable, and terrifying. Louie Spence was reportedly in talks to play the role. One concept had him having a Meep as a pet, similar to Blofeld and the iconic White Cat. Another concept was forcing UNIT to dance to "Tragedy" in order to survive.
But when it became clear that Ncuti Gatwa would exit after Series 2, the long arc was scrapped. The Mrs Flood storyline, originally connected to The Boss mentioned throughout was heavily rewritten. In the rush to give Ncuti a suitable exit, The Rani (previously planned for Series 3) was brought forward as a last-minute replacement, reportedly at Gatwa’s own request.

>>211502089
The sketch isn't funny. But the people outraged at a straight white man pretending to be a gay black man are.

>>211506162
Of course it isn't, but the fact that it's a show on the BBC itself roasting RTD's shitfest is what makes it good.

>>211506414
normies are like 5 years behind the zeitgeist so this getting produced was really white pilling, you'd have never see them do a sketch like this about Jodie during her era

>Mogs Pertwee, Davison and Colin Baker in multi-Doctor episodes
How did he do it?

>>211506059
That sounds cringe and the Villain sounds like he wouldn't add anything.

>>211506414
That's like taking the Extras parody seriously.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J63HrYEFAbI

Mad props!

>>211506540
To be fair, this was just taking the piss out of the cheap monsters, which is a well-known long-standing point of mockery. The Dead Ringers sketch was literally saying "it's poorly written shit", which is a lot worse

>>211506503
>Has most of his stories wiped
Thanks BBC!

>>211506705
Marco Polo has just been rediscovered so shut yer face.

>>211506729
I wish

>>211506705
Ian Levine has just restored all of them with AI.

>>211506779
I'd rather have the animated versions.

>>211506779
I have seen Ian's AI stuff and it's awful.

>>211506540
even for a short sketch Tennant is giving it his all.

Rewatched Jodie's first episode. It's shit

>>211503711
Gay scene.

Mad props!

>>211506059
>the Villain
Bit cringe.
We know what started the Time War. It was Genesis of the Daleks. We saw it.

>>211506482
>Normies are just now entering their "redpill" phase, like I did in 2012(?)
You know I'm happy for them, but I can't help but cringe a little bit. They're going to be Pepe-posting next...

>>211505265
I don't know if Jon Culshaw can do impressions of any of the Doctors apart from 4, definitely not 10
https://youtu.be/35uYgSYXtfA

>>211507359
Retroactive.

>>211506540
Ricky Gervais kind of gets Doctor Who better than RTD does, if I'm honest.

>>211507527
Mad props!

>>211506540
I want lady sailor companion for real.

ANDIES.

>>211507497
We pretty much see throughout the original series that every time the Doctor interacts with the Daleks he contributes a little bit to building their empire.
He teaches them that there are worlds beyond theirs to conquer, he inspires them to create time travel, he bombs the fuck out of Skaro which surely pissed them the hell off.
We know how the time war started.

>>211507527
I say this unironically: the ONLY NewWho writer who gets what Doctor Who is supposed to be like is Gareth Roberts.
He even said Matt Smith is the best Doctor, and I agree with it.

It's a shame he got cancelled over the transgender comments. He would've been a pretty good showrunner.

>>211507649
RTD would absolutely retcon it with a mad timelord character who became evil because he was pushed away by the master (toxic masculinity) for being gay. RTD created the time war anyway. so he could do what he wants

Could The Chase retroactively be part of the Time War?
>Daleks using time travel
>Daleks using stolen Time Lord tech
>Daleks specifically going after The Doctor
>Trying to erase The Doctor from history by taking out his earliest incarnation

>>211507728
>the transgender comments.
What did he say?

>>211507471
His Brigadier is okay.

>>211507908
Called me a tranny :(

>>211507908
On 3 September 2017, Roberts posted on his Twitter account,
"I [love] how trannies choose names like Munroe, Paris and Chelsea. It's never Julie or Bev is it?" Later that same day he wrote "It's almost like a clueless gayboy's idea of a glamorous lady. But of course it's definitely not that."

>>211507832
Mad props!

>>211507880
It actually makes sense that those Daleks are from a much later time. I don't think we see them actively using time travel again in any of the later stories. If it was near the end of the war, it would also explain why they didn't keep sending Daleks to wipe him out at different points in his life.

Maybe that's too much theory crafting, and you should just take the episodes as they were made though.

>>211508182
This bit you're doing is a little bit funny, but not *very* funny. I will say.

>>211506059
Sounds cringe and silly. This show is at its best when it's just The Twilight Zone in space and each episode is self-contained.
> Doctor and companion goes to *place*
> Strange/creepy things are happening
> Have to solve the thing

I am so SICK of muh Gallifrey and muh Time War I DON'T CARE. Both of these things were at their best when they were just briefly alluded to, like when the Doctor describes Gallifrey to Martha in Gridlock(?). What is this obsession with the Doctor's past? I don't want to see more member berries, I don't give a fuck about the return of """""""iconic""""""" villains like floogle boogles or the ooga boogas that were in one episode 90 years ago I DONT CARE STOP DWELLING IN THE PAST ITS BORING.

>>211507471
>a show doing a Doctor Who parody but the main bit is that the guy playing the Doctor can't do impressions of any of them and keeps changing which Doctor he's parodying

>>211508257
Yeah, kind of.
And I'm a sucker for the Gallifrey fanwank in the Wilderness years and stuff, but at this point, stop it.
I don't want to know more about the Doctor's backstory. They have already done quite enough damage.
I don't want to know that Susan's mother was flipping the Master or something. Stop.

>>211508168
What's wrong with his comment? Just pointing out names people use.

>>211508184
>I don't think we see them actively using time travel again in any of the later stories
The Dalek's Master Plan, Evil of the Daleks, Day of the Daleks, Resurrection of the Daleks and Remembrance of the Daleks all have them using time travel.

>>211506844
He's apparently started redoing them

>>211508220
I found it very funny at first and keep finding it hilarious like the first time. Incredulity increases humour.

>>211502667
Heaven Sent, the best Doctor episode that STILL had a retarded amount of Clara in it
Seriously, fuck Clara
Talk about outstaying your welcome

>>211505496
Which they could have just gotten from an Indian YouTube video. Where do you think that the people who troll on the internet but don't watch the show get their info or strawmen? Everything is a repost of a repost.

>>211508500
Correct. HS is overrated dogshit in the pigslop of Series 9. PigSHIT frankly.

>>211508322
I think his Baker is pretty good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEGaHn8NIg4

>>211501984 (OP)
Imagine Vestra and Jenny carrying out an extremely thorough sexual examination of Clara and Amy.

>>211508404
Oh well. Guess you're a bigger NERD than I am.

>>211508536
Mad props!

>>211506059
>He was flamboyant, unstable, and terrifying. Louie Spence was reportedly in talks to play the role.
That is fucking hilarious

>>211508580
Evil of the Daleks, I always thought they'd just been sent back or trapped in time, like in Daleks in Manhattan. Day of the Daleks, they're just linked between two specific times like the Master in The Sound of Drums. Remembrance I don't remember using time travel, or Master Plan really. Resurrection maybe with the time trap corridor thing if that counts.

>>211508580
No, I've just watched the show.

>>211508659
Mad props!

>>211508638
>Remembrance I don't remember using time travel
How do you think they got to 1963?

>>211508703
They were already there? Technically travelling from Skaro to Earth and arriving while humans are around at all like this must require or be a kind of time travel.

>>211508659
I saw em like 12 years ago, chap. Give me a chance.

>>211508736
Chap with wings? There, there.

>>211508703
I mean, we don't actually know when Skaro is circa Genesis of the Daleks. That could have been the first century, from our perspective.

>>211508810
Peel knows.

>>211508810
Destiny and Resurrection show future humans with a post-Genesis Davros.

>>211508638
Nigger you what? Victoria's dad and the other guy made a time travel machine in a cabinet full of mirrors and static electricity. Daleks came though with another time travel machine, then used the cabinet to teleport to 60's earth and bring through their machine. Based dizzy daleks proceeded to blow up the dalek commander. Also, on that version of Skaro, we don't see any of the native humanoids.

Now that I think about it, did they ever explain HOW the daleks retook Skaro after being utterly BTFO'd by first & co?

>>211508894
How far post Genesis? Wasn't he "dead" for hundreds of years?

>>211508957
Mad props!

>>211507880
i wouldn't agree, it was just targeting the Doctor for revenge as part of a personal feud, the action wasn't really set against Gallifrey or the Time Lords at all.

>>211508988
The point is, Davros in Remembrance is clearly after Resurrection and Revelation. Therefore, the Daleks used time travel in that story.

>>211508810
It's the 16th century according to Tardis Wiki

>>211509008
Obviously not because those concepts didn't exist at the time (The Doctor is written as a human in The Chase). But like Genesis of the Daleks and Resurrection of the Daleks, you can retroactively fit it into the Time War if you squint.

>>211509096
> The Doctor is written as a human in The Chase
Source?

>>211508409
probably using the new google video thing everyone's using for these fake tiktoks, right? the quality on it is actually really good, i think it would be fine for these old episodes.

tiktok > doctor who

4:20 - 9:23
https://youtu.be/VmhVfNcVbqQ?si=hiDCxXXZ615FMigq

>>211509347
Meant for >>211509118

>>211502667
Doctor Who died here, fucking Pandoras Box

>>211507359
Fuck off RTD, the daleks were never a threat to the time Lords in classic

>>211509347
Doesn't mean he isn't still a Time Lord. Unused dialogue too.

Andies.

>>211509677
They were getting there.
Althought, to be honest, I don't really buy how they were ever a threat to the Time Lords. You're telling me when their backs were against the war, the Time Lords couldn't just erase the Daleks in a snap?
The time war as a concept is kind of really dumb. Should have been a Time Lord civil war which expanded to incorporate other races, if anything.

>>211510376
Correct.

>>211510376
you just kind of have to accept it's purely because they're the most popular monster from the show. although i guess in a pretentious way you could look at it like nuclear arms, how initially only a select few had them but now most first world nations have their own arsenal.

>>211507527
That sketch was parodying RTD though.

>>211510376
Although I guess Gallifrey as we see it depicted throughout the original series is going through obvious cultural decline.
They were basically a people with the potential to wield great power, but completely incompetent leadership. Somehow Sontarans managed to invade Gallifrey at one point.

>>211510917
If anything, Peter Davison, which I'm guessing Ricky half remembered from childhood.
You've got the woman in a uniform like Tegan, and the "sodium chloride" bit, which I think was an Adric quote.

>>211511150
Four to Doomsday but I highly doubt Gervais was really thinking of that specifically; probably Merchant moreso.

>>211511150
It did the Slitheen weakness except instead of vinegar it was salt.

>>211511463
Mad props!

>>211511571
*throws you into the time vortex

>>211511601
Missed the last asterisk. Should've used magic potion!

>>211511571
The point is that it was obviously nu-Who, even that kind of scene with DT clutching his ears was done a couple of times in the show, just not by something like a silly slug monster.

>>211511651
Partners in Crime, which was afterwards. When else? The Runaway Bride, but he's the only one not doing it. A bit in The Age of Steel but again he's not doing it. Evolution of the Daleks but he's not doing it.

>>211511646
You can't *handle* my potions...

>>211511723
Mad props!

>>211511747
My potions would kill a DRAGON...

>>211511780
A dragon lives forever, but not so little boys...

>>211511700
Even if he wasn't the one doing it in the show, it was enough of a recurring thing on the show where mostly everyone was clutching their ears that you can pick up on it and include it in a parody.

>>211511889
Mad apropos!

FUCK whoever made the HD versions 4% slow. FUCK THEM FOREVER

andies

>>211502667
Doctor who should have ended after season 9 and really all of season 8 should be deleted.

>>211512331
Pigshit.

>>211512331
agreed

>>211508500
Preach

Guys? When is Immigrant coming back? When can I talk to Cloister again? And lym? I miss them...

>Year of our Krasko, 2025
>Still no Innsmouth inspired Sea Devils story involving Sea Devils taking over a quant little fishing village to worship a sea god.
I tire.

>>211503711
>HE SAID FANTASTIC AGAIN AAHHHHHH!
I hate this, even though he was the best doctor by far.

>>211512936
should have been "fandabidozi"

>>211501984 (OP)

I would have watched the Vastra/ Jenny show just as i watched Torchwood. Such a shame those BBC suits couldn´t see the appeal.

>>211512969
Mad props!

>>211513368
More the issue is the make-up they'd need for each recording session. Least Big Finish gave the Paternoster Gang two seasons

>>211513384
I'm gonna finger you're gonk hole.

>>211512936
I loved him saying fantastic all the time. Eccleston made it sound so genuine every time. Every "catch phrase" from Tennant onward are forced bullshit, though.

>>211512969
>Rose, before I go, there's something I need to tell you: Mickey's black.

>>211514037
Got a bit much I thought, especially when accompanied with a gormless smile and a pause. It was multiple times an episode. Like Tennant gritting his teeth like he's taking a big shit, or Smith spinning in circles and almost falling over, Capaldi goggling and leering at everyone...just too much of it.

Capaldi > Smith > Eccleston

>>211514218
>It was multiple times an episode
proofs?

>>211510376
The YIH and Faction paradox portray what an actual Time War could be like instead of NuWhos Doctor Pew but you have to read them

>>211515706
I'll get around to it, Larry. Alright!

>>211501984 (OP)
post more of her

/who/ I won't give you the satisfaction of dying

>>211502629
>thoughbeit

>>211519652
it do be true, thoughever

I'm going to say this again.
The episode where the Doctor meets the TARDIS ( as in, the TARDIS is a woman ), was intensely sad.

>>211501984 (OP)

>>211519906
Why is she blinking so much?

>>211519906
>....art?
gets me every time.

>>211509677
one of the 9000 subplots from Resurrection had the Daleks clone the Doctor, Tegan, and Turlough and program them to assassinate the ruling council of the Time Lords so they were trying to set up something

>>211519743
We had to pretend we liked it at the time because it was Neil Gaiman, but now we can all admit it was a bit wank, because it was Neil Gaiman.

>>211521182
how many Doctor Who fangirls do you think Amanda found for him to fuck after that one aired

>>211506695
it's 100% a shot at peter kay

>>211521405
the era of slightly more pretentious comedians seething about Peter Kay was a little cringe, in retrospect.
He's funny, alright? Get over it.

SEX WITH SILURIAN WOMEN

>>211522779
total silurian rape

>>211503711
this part was pretty cool, if it was the last time seeing this doctor i wouldve been satisfied

I still don't understand why anyone thought that removing Bellinda's agency and forcing a kid onto her character without her consent was a good idea.

With better writing, Bellinda could have been a great character

>>211508505
cope

>>211503711
Doctor Who peaked here actually

>>211524522
She was a non-character so who cares.

>>211524522
all RTD cared about was having the woke flex of being the showrunner with the first all non-white TARDIS

>>211520000
Uncontrolled horniness.

>>211509962
>Unused dialogue too
My point was that was how Nation wrote The Doctor in the early days - as a human who built the TARDIS. This is why Doctor Who is human in the Dalek films. In fact, he wasn't the only one as most pieces of extra media portrayed him as a human.

>>211514218
>>211512936
Same. I watched in 2005 and I hated his performance except occasionally when he was being serious
>FANTASTIC
was fucking shit

>>211509347
The pilot had him explicitly from earth in the 30th century

>>211506059
>The Villain
I preferred this when it was called The Enemy and the great big time war was called the War in Heaven

>>211508257
>Both of these things were at their best when they were just briefly alluded to
Yeah like even in the EDAs themselves where the Time War dogshit started, it was just faintly alluded to, until the final book of that arc where they went all out.
Even JNT would have blushed at all the memberberry slop that RTD2 has been doing

>>211515706
I liked that the big boss of Faction Paradox was named Grandfather Paradox, and the way his true identity was resolved
Lawrence Miles did nothing wrong

>>211529121
Watch >>211509347
It's pretty inconsitent in the early days, but a lot of writers definitely wrote him as a human

>>211508500
> Seeiously, Fuck Clara.

I would fuck Clara very, very seriously.

Hell is Moffat and Clara forever

>>211504372
The thing that endears me most to Smith is the fact he went into the role knowing nothing about Doctor Who and the moment he started doing research he became a fan who read all the obscure texts and wrote his own rehearsal scripts to get better in-character. He cared.

>>211506059
A huge opportunity was missed not making the Toymaker an alternate rival to the Doctor, who contrasts with him by being a higher-level entity who represents what would had happen to the Time Lords if they shed their corporeal forms the way Rassilon was trying to and the way the Q in Star Trek did.
He could solve all the Doctor's problems forever or cause him never-ending problems, but is invested in the paradox of someone having all the tools to get to his level yet refusing to, even as it means suffering from hardship and severely reduced agency, in a being who purports to treasure their freedom and the freedom of all other sentient.

HYPOTHETICAL:
>doctor who is fucked
>the bbc has the IP on lockdown
>so do the concept rights holders like the terry nation estate
>bbc is not getting a revival or any non-show media

in this situation, how would you create your own legally distinct version of doctor who, that fits the tone, genre, and core concepts of doctor who without actually being doctor who?

>>211531429
It also kind of sucks that Hartnell never got to play the Doctor's son like he wanted in the second season.
Most likely this would have also been Susan's father creating an interesting tension

>>211531729
Scrap the entire NuWho run
Recast the 8th doctor and film the EDAs

>still no word on the 65th anniversary

>>211502089
>wheelchair-bound
He can't say that, can he???

>>211531922
It'll be celebrated on the CBeebies show. The Doctor will have a big birthday cake and invite all his previous incarnations

>>211532037
i'd watch it. i already watch the Welsh fella telling me what jobs i could have in the TV industry when i grow up. i certainly wasn't above watching David Tennant's in-character Bedtime Stories episode.

this is an Original British Drama btw, it's not "for kids".

>>211531282
I have always suspected its a lie when an actor chosen to play the Doctor comes out and says he
>"No, honestly, I hadn't even heard of it before they offered me the role. Who is this ... Doctor...?"

I can imagine perhaps Christopher Eccleston, might have only been vaguely aware about Doctor Who when he was cast, but he'd have known of Tom Baker's scarf, the TARDIS, and Daleks at the very least. For Smith, who grew up during the RTD era when it was a huge pop culture thing that everyome watched, to then claim not to have seen an episode? No, thats obviously bull shit, he was just trying to sound all cool, just in case he had to distance himself from the role if it didn't work out.

Jodie claiming not to have seen it is obviously a lie too. You don't work with David Tennant and Chris Chibnall on a show where its probably the only thing the two of them are talking about and the only thing people are asking the two of them about without thinking "I might check out this Doctor Who thing for free on BBC iPlayer...." Just to find out what the big deal is.

At least Tennant and Capaldi were honest that they had seen and somewhat liked the show.

>>211532382
>I can imagine perhaps Christopher Eccleston, might have only been vaguely aware about Doctor Who when he was cast
i'm so used to actors waffling on about xyz being 'iconic' or whatever, but this interview seems pretty candid:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uD9IJqLMBo

>>211531729
I would rather just let it die.

remember when Dr Who would teach his assistants how to operate the TARDIS?

>>211532382
>who grew up during the RTD era
He would have been 22 or 23 by the time the show came back in 2005, he was definitely at a reasonable enough age to have not invested his time into Doctor Who when it came back.

>>211506540
Why is it that when they parody the Doctor in something and they even get David Tennant in to play or voice him, they just cheap out and get a random to be the assistant?

In this and Family Guy.

Seriously every single one of the actresses that played one of David Tennant's assistants would be cheaper than him, and each one of them desperate for work on shows like that to raise their profile more.

>>211532482
I would watch a show with the Paternoster Gang, at this point they're so much better than the main show.

>>211532537
Scheduling would be a concern, and you honestly don't need a real companion, just the Doctor.

>>211507471
Why is he playing David Morrissey's character, Jackson Lake, from the Christmas episode "the Next Doctor" when it would have made more sense to play the 10th Doctor?

>>211532638
glad the human one is ageing well, give them a series before it's too late.

Is there any reason why the Toymaker never got brought back in Classic? No story ideas? Not seen as interesting/popular enough? I think about Arc of Infinity and bringing back Omega (not even in a anniversary special again for what that is worth) and that seems to counter arguments that could be levelled against Toymaker not being brought back. Returning for the first time a powerful villain that has not been seen for years (10 years between Three Doctors and Arc) that a lot of the audience is either not going to remember or have watched. Plus, in Arc, not that this necessarily means much given multiple performers have played different roles in Doctor Who, Arc also has Michael Gough in it - though that is me presuming they would have got him again to play Toymaker.

>>211532638
Big assumption for you to make that any show with them will not just end up resembling the main show in terms of quality.

>>211532677
The only one of them that went on to be anything like "in demand" was Catherine Tate, and she was big before she joined the show.

I can just imagine them sitting by their phones ready for the call after Tennant told them he was going to be on extras, waiting for a call that never came. Much like how Jenna is feeling now after those numpties on Unleashed somehow completely forgot the second longest serving companion in NuWho even existed.

>>211501984 (OP)
Who is that? What is this?

>>211532382
>Jodie claiming not to have seen it is obviously a lie too.
Especially as she was just doing a shit Tennant impression

I've heard they used classic who clips in the recent seasons
Which episodes did they refer to? I'm not going to watch this slop looking for them.

>>211532537
They're all just generic "girl"
It's cheaper to have one of the existing VAs just do an english girl voice

>>211524522
you could take it as an allegory for politics, feminism gets thrown under the bus for LGBT+.

>>211532382
It is not like Smith was saying he was not aware of the show. As you say, in what I think non-Americans or people too young may not realise, Doctor Who was massive in the RTD1 era in the UK. With Smith he was born in 1982, so as a young kid would have been around in the era the show was collapsing in popularity and come the revival was not really in anyway part of the audience, however broad it was, to be swooped up in actually watching the show.

How did /who/ react to the spinoff announcement?

>>211532786
He was a one trick pony before RTD brought him back and expanded the character. Also, as his episodes were burned like Stookie Bill or taped over with episodes of Steptoe and Son there wasn't really the reference material there for people to go back to, either writers or viewers.

>>211532786
It's most likely they forgot he existed. He only appeared once 18 year ago and his serial is mostly lost. The Three Doctors was mostly like reran by the BBC a few times especially that year since it was the 20th anniversary.
>>211532935
Pyramids of Mars, and The Three Doctors

>>211532786
They were going to bring him back for Colin Baker's era in a story called 'The Nightmare Fair', it got turned into an ear story by Big Finish.
but Colin was sacked.

>>211533245
>Pyramids of Mars, and The Three Doctors
Neat. I'll youtube these

>>211532786
Aside from Daleks and Cybermen, none of the black and white monsters were brought back. I guess the colour crew wanted to do their own thing

>>211533443
The Ice Warriors were in black and white when they first appeared though reappear in colour. Though given they are not the villains your point still stands.

>>211532993
Broadly supportive, it will be some Hay Duggee level thing with memeable songs like this:
https://youtu.be/K05N2jqFHc8?si=TLIoH9pKPXwu6o4h

>>211501984 (OP)
>Something For the Dads
https://strawpoll.com/e7ZJG2AK5y3

1 Peri Brown (Nicola Bryant) 7.3% (227 votes)
2 Romana I (Mary Tamm) 7.26% (226 votes)
3 Nyssa (Sarah Sutton) 7.23% (225 votes)
4 Romana II (Lalla Ward) 7.1% (221 votes)
5 Amelia Pond (Karen Gillian) 7.07% (220 votes)
6 Clara Oswald (Jenna Coleman) 7.04% (219 votes)
7 Sarah Jane Smith (Elisabeth Sladen) 6.91% (215 votes)
8 Zoe Heriot (Wendy Padbury) 6.69% (208 votes)
9 Martha Jones (Freema Agyeman) 5.18% (161 votes)
10Tegan Jovanka (Janet Fielding) 4.95% (154 votes)

>>211532638
I wish they tried that Jago and Litefoot TV show they talked about maybe doing in the 1970s - and yes Briggs, I know about the audio dramas.

>Strax dies
>Somehow Strax returns as a butler to a lizard in Victorian England

>>211533498
Yeah true there were the Ice Warriors
I don't think they really took hold though

>>211532993
I think it's interesting. Might stick on the first episode to see what pre school Doctor Who is like with all of the edge sanded off. It'll be harmless so there's no point in getting annoyed about a show for tots, though it's a shame that it's not something for CBBC in the vein of SJA.

All you have to do is film the EDAs and everyone will be happy
You can even recast the Eighth Doctor as Timothy Chalemet and no one will mind

>>211533443
Seems like there should have been a Great Intelligence serial in the Third Doctor era. Although from what I remember that is something to do with the creators owning the rights not the BBC and there being a dispute of it.

What exactly is the spin-off they are doing?

>>211534712
What if they did the Eighth Doctor stories with the 16th Doctor? You get all of the good stories from the EDAs but it's done with someone who isn't McGann.
Would you accept that?

>>211524522
RTD doesn't care about women or minorities.

>>211534686
>though it's a shame that it's not something for CBBC in the vein of SJA.
What sort of show like SJA is even feasible? I do not see what companions are popular enough and have the person who portrayed them inclined to play the role again in some CBBC spin-off. Anything else seems like it just becomes some sort of UNIT show, that probably aims for a broader audience.

>>211531429
Q is SHIT

>>211513469
*your

>>211532638
Unfortunately Moffat thought people would be more interested in angsty teenage slop with characters no one saw before

>>211534930
Mad props!

>>211534756
They're looking to commission a 52 episode season of a cbeebies spin off that'll air between 2027 and 2029. Cbeebies is the BBC channel for small children so the pitch document is stating that villains need to be more bumbling and mischievous rather than wanting to kill everyone, and the Doctor shouldn't be going Timelord Victorious on villains. It'll just be 11 minute stories. Here's the pitch document.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/commissioning/news/doctor-who-preschool-animation-invitation-to-pitch-june-2025

>>211531729
>in this situation, how would you create your own legally distinct version of doctor who, that fits the tone, genre, and core concepts of doctor who without actually being doctor who?
I think the biggest hurdle would be coming up with a legally distinct version of regeneration. But there are a lot of other shows we can pull from to make a new Doctor Who. Star Trek, The Twilight Zone, Sliders, Quantum Leap, X-Files, Lost in Space, The Time Tunnel, Flash Gordon, Sapphire & Steel, etc. etc. It really depends on your preferences and favorite aspects of the show. I'd try to add as many of my fetishes as possible.

>>211534967
And it is gonna be... A-a-a-a-awesome!

>>211532382
You can tell Jodie has never seen the show from her performance alone.

>>211534805
I don't think you need a previous companion to necessarily head the show. If you had to have previous characters back, I would probably play on SJA nostalgia and bring Clyde and Rani back as the mentor for a couple of new kids.

>>211535043
Problem?

>>211534930
You mean nobody wanted to watch wibbly-wobbly angsty-wanksty Grange Hill knock off?

>>211535213
>holy mother of kanye
this is definitely how teenagers of the 2010s talked especially when in mortal danger

>>211535287
Mad props!

Andies.

THE WAR CONTINUES

GREENIS V ANDIES
WHO WILL TRIUMPH?
CHOOSE A SIDE OR PERISH

Current standings:
G:A
31:24

Andies FOREVER

>>211534967
>RTD doubling down on pandering to the left

andies

The prophecy has spoken.

>>211534967
return of:
>Krotons
>Quarks
>Androgem (looking to steal puddings for themselves)
>and maybe meddling monk

btw I swear DW had an equivalent of the Star Trek Pakleds but I can't think of them, maybe I meant the Ogrons.

>>211534671
>strax revived somehow and put to work in the past on earth
>that girl who spent her entire life working for a place she hated just for the chance to meet the doctor is left dead and he didnt even remember her before OR after
bald white men cant stop winning

>>211535624
trek is shit

>>211535624
>Star Trek Pakleds but I can't think of them, maybe I meant the Ogrons.
Maybe. Ogrons have low intelligence, with the main distinction between them and Pakleds is Ogrons are more used as mercenaries.

>>211535676
Mad props!

>>211509677
They literally went out of their way to avert their creation which they never resorted to do for any other species (on screen).

>"We foresee a time where they have destroyed all other lifeforms and become the dominant creature in the universe"

>>211535793
Now the Doctor in bi-generating will become that which the Daleks were trying to prevent.

>>211535793
yeah but that's just because that's what the Daleks are, that IS the story of Genesis of the Daleks, sure.

there's an existential threat to all of existence every other week on Doctor Who. the Time Lords generally don't give a shit.

>>211535974
>every other week
Four parters are most common.

>>211535974
>there's an existential threat to all of existence every other week on Doctor Who. the Time Lords generally don't give a shit.
So the fact that the Time Lords DO give a shit about the Daleks in Classic means that they're a major threat to the Time Lords.

Obviously this would get in the way of the story they wanted to tell but, the Time Lords just seem retarded to me. Why not just materialise a bomb in Davros' laboratory to assassinate him? It is not like the Kaleds are going to know it is the Time Lords.

Fact is, the Daleks are the epitome of power creep in Who. They become more and more powerful the more other species fuck with them. Their creation was essentially like Davros opening pandora's box.

I do agree however that the show does a poor job at expressing this as they keep writing them as dumbass jobbers, especially in the Pertwee era where they get blown up with sticks. Series 1 managed to make them cool again, even if it didn't last.

>>211536026
but it's the exception, not the rule. and anon's original point was
>Fuck off RTD, the daleks were never a threat to the time Lords in classic
which is true.

Time War should have been with some other threat, not the little bauble-mutants. and even in Classic, the Time Lords should have remained how they were in The War Games.

>>211536162
Everyone knows it's only the original The Daleks, Genesis, Dalek and Parting of the Ways that keeps them a real threat. All other stories betray their power, their evil, their destiny and deny them their day.

>>211536162
in NuWho they can melt bullets with magic force fields, yet dialogue also repeatedly explains it's possible to shoot the eyestalk.
they're already metal tanks!

>yo dawg, i put a shield around your shield

If you are to get into the autistic and mindfuckery logic of it, can you even stop the development of the Daleks? It is not like there is seemingly an exact 'present time' in the setting and at some point the Daleks do get time travel - from a meta-perspective the Daleks are shown to have time travel/manipulation in the First Doctor era, so from a production perspective predating Genesis. Given that the Daleks have time travel it seems like they should be able to retroactively ensure their development.

>>211536202
>which is true.
The Time Lords stating that Daleks could wipe out all life means that they were a threat in Classic to the time lords if left alone. And the Doctor made the decision to not kill the Daleks in their cradle, making the Tine War inevitable.

>>211536329
No because going back to assist in their creation would result in a paradox destroying the universe.

>>211536372
Does stopping the Doctor count as assisting if from the Doctor's and Time Lords perspective the Daleks should have developed? If the Daleks cannot interfere in stopping the Doctor from alerting Dalek development then by the same measure the Time Lords should not be able to stop the Daleks from interfering in the development of the Time Lords.

Since we're talking daleks, what was their best design?

>>211536457
Bronze, although part of that may be the production quality of the prop. I think Nu should have transitioned away from the bronze colouring and tried presenting them with the same casing of the bronze though repainted in the silver with blue.

>>211536372
That's probably a less harmful paradox than erasing the Daleks considering how much of history would change without them. Assuming the Daleks kept their involvement a secret.

>>211536457
For me it is the Dalek Emperor in The Evil of the Daleks.

>>211536452
Perhaps the Daleks have attempted to prevent or alter the development of the Time Lords, leading to the two races' dislike of each other. Dalek-Time Lord hybrid is banned in the MMO battle of the Time War.

>>211536600
Looks a lot better than that of 1.13.

>>211536686
Always wondered what those little arms were for

>>211536707
Defence.

ANDIES FOR EVER AND EVER

>>211536329
If Fourth were to have prevented the development of the Daleks then does that mean First, Second and Third incarnations never encountered the Daleks? In that case is the Fourth Doctor incarnation, at least as he was in Genesis, even going to have come about? History seems like it must be rewritten by removing the Daleks - ranging from the personality of the Doctor, lives of his companions, individual planets, and intergalactic politics. Preventing the Daleks seems like it is some sort of grandfather paradox given how intertwined they are with the Doctor.

>>211536843
Time Lords have paradox machines built to sustain this contradiction. Risky still hence the Doctor was keen to alter their development, making them a force for good, rather than simply stopping them living.

>>211536346
if you're throwing later shit into the mix (the WRITERS didn't have time travel), wasn't Timothy Dalton's whole plan to wipe existence and then become beings of consciousness, somehow?

i guess he was insane, but it suggests they're not entirely wedded to this whole 'existing' thing.

>>211536913
Mad props!

>>211536924
they're called Millennium FX, casual.

>>211506503
Doctor Who works pretty well as a sneaky manlet. I wonder if they'll ever do it again

>>211536938
Mad props!

Andies.

>>211536913
The writers wouldn't have been thinking of RTD's time war, but the threat that they laid out wasn't resolved and some kind of conflict would surely have to happen, which was then followed up on later on in Resurrection and Remembrance.
>i guess he was insane, but it suggests they're not entirely wedded to this whole 'existing' thing.
I took that as desperation and being driven mad by the whole affair of the Time War. Before the War I doubt that they were thinking about trying to do that.

Greenis!

>>211537337
ohmygahahahgreenis i just got it. LOL. Mad props!

How long have you been on /who/? Me? Since 2018.

Greenis won. War's over, lads.

Andies won. War's over, lads.

Greenis won. War's over, lads.

Andies won. War's over, lads.

War's over, lads.

I will NEVER stand with the Andies. GREENIS FOREVER

g word SUCKS. FUCK OFF.
ANDIES is the BEST. Andies Andies Andies

Grandies.

Andiss!

Greenis is so, so much better. kin ell

Andies is the best invention of all time.

Another successful thread, lads.

>>211537975
Correct.

GREENIS

yeah, seriously Greenis is a lot better. greenis greenis greenis!

Greenis FOREVER
Greenis
Greenis!

Series 9 is pigshit!

Greenis is coming back, big time.

GREENIS
hahaha greenis is back baby! greenis!!

Two equal forces.
Greenis...

... and Andies.

Who will win?
CHOOSE A SIDE
- - THE WAR CONTINUES - -

Great thread lads.

let it die

And it seems, not a moment too soon.

>>211538369
Try again.

let it die

lads is Ncuti at the bottom of the Doctor rankings? It used to be Jodeh but at least i knew her character. Ncuti always seemed like he was still trying to introduce himself even at the very last episode.

>>211531729
Professor whom, he fights the evil alien Derricks with an Australian side kick from his "chaos hampering universal device", a spaceship affectionately called the CHUD

>>211539591
Ncuti > Tennant, thag much i know

>>211540043
Trenzalore

>>211539343

Timelords don't die, they regenerate

>>211540516
except when they dont

>>211540516
I refuse.

>>211541087
dangerous kino level from this response

>>211540516
Someone should have told that to Borusa before he went in search of Rassilon's immortality

>>211540367
Moffat shouldve done more with Trenzalore PTSD. Surely a 900 year long seige would leave scars comparable to the Time War.

>>211541333
nah he was just chillin'

>>211541333
It should have made the Doctor even less willing to stick to one place if anything was to come from it.

Moffat, with his army of should'ves and what-might-have-beens

>>211501984 (OP)
Hottest chick in the show

>>211541902
the hottest chick in the show would be a mix between Amy pond and Rose Tyler.

Like Rose Tyler but with red hair, taller, more elegant looking. And a more refined face but still with the Platonic ideal of what Rose Tyler's face is reaching for.

>>211541902
Bill is hotter.

>>211542117
Bill is black, actually.

>>211542154
Racism is bad.

>>211542192
Racism is good, actually.

>>211542673
Source?