>first movie
>atheist guy is retarded and the antagonist of the story. He was wrong about everything.
>third movie
>atheist guy is a wholesome good boy and is right about everything
So, what is the message here?

Bump

that despite what fedoras say, christians don't hate atheists, but atheists sure do hate christians

>>211538229 (OP)
I thought the first movie had a Christian who pretended to be an Atheist though.

>>211540513
>christians don't hate atheists
Tell that to the christians in my country

Protestants are so bad at cinema it's unreal.

>>211540513
The first movie ends with the atheist being murdered and all the Christians celebrating
They don't even try to catch the driver.

>>211540704
This is what you anglo retards get.
Following the most retarded and cucked sect of all.

Should have picked cathloticism

>>211540604
what's your country?

>>211540513
>When I am weaker than you, I ask you for freedom because that is according to your principles; when I am stronger than you, I take away your freedom because that is according to my principles.
this perfectly describes the average atheist's treatment towards Christianity.

>>211541026
Still better than thinking a dude in Rome is some infallible authority.

>>211538229 (OP)
Libs bought out the franchise.

>>211541198
ah yes, all the christian persecution in the form of "don't teach that stupid shit to my children"
>b-b-b-but gays and trannies!
don't teach that stupid shit to my children either.

>>211541427
>learning about christianity bad
>brainwashing your kids into being atheists and not letting them decide on their own good
but of course, if the roles were reversed you'd scream about child abuse

>>211541507
>its brainwashing to NOT tell kids something

anon.

>>211541591
>brainwashing is only what I say it is
If I don't talk to my kids about the outside world and keep them in my house at all times, I'm not brainwashing them, sayeth the smart atheist

>>211541591
>You should NOT tell your kids blacks are dangerous cause it's brainwashing.

>>211541507
No one has ever been brainwashed into atheism and, in fact, only became so precisely by learning about christianity.
It's impossible not to realize the blatant mythology of the Bible if you have a first world education. Cope and seethe.

>>211542179
The retardation that is evolution is only taught in academia for a lack of alternative for creationism.

>>211541969
Brainwashing is an active process. Not telling someone something is not an active process. You can’t brainwash someone by not telling them things, by not talking to them, etc.

>>211542214
>genetics don't real. I have the greentext to prove it.

>>211542214
The pic makes perfect sense

>>211542214
… bro I don’t think that’s the image you meant to post.

>>211542306
Just like atheism.

>>211542179
>No one has ever been brainwashed into atheism
99.99% of hollyweird entertainment is catered towards atheists.

>man is made of dust and woman out of his rib and a snake fooled them into destroying paradise
>if you don't believe this then you're gay cringe tranny reddit libtard
>here's a smug picture of my waifu
We've been doing this shit for a fucking decade now. Tradcels are more cancerous than fedoras ever were.

>>211542276
not telling people stuff can absolutely brainwash them. If, for example, I don't tell my kids that people who don't believe in God exist, they will form the belief that absolutely everyone is a theist in some way.
I hope you're baiting, but I'm afraid you're not.

>>211542179
>Cope and seethe.
Atheists can't say "dilate" lol you fucking cuck

>>211542552
No it isn't. What even makes you say this, that a character doesn't literally look into the camera and cite John 3:16?

>>211542570
>The supernatural is not real cause it's not natural.
It's not truth but preferences at the end of the day.

>>211542570
>it's another "If you don't believe in Creationism you aren't a real Christian!" moment

Reminder that most adult atheists became so because they believed the memes that atheism makes you smarter

atheism is globohomo pop culture caused by consumerism.

>>211542649
Anon, the Bible literally states these things. Your cognitive dissonance is not my fault.

>>211542580
Brainwashing is forcing others to accept ideas they either currently do not hold or are opposed to ideas they currently hold. You never telling your hypothetical children about atheism could lead to your conclusion or lead to the conclusion that you’re a moron who honestly didn’t know atheists existed or that atheism is a new thing.

That said, this is a curious discussion considering christians insist everyone worships something because they can’t comprehend not worshiping something.

>>211542763
The Bible also states no one is as perfect as Jesus and will always fail to behave like a proper Christian should
In either case, I am covered.

>>211542782
>Brainwashing is forcing others to accept ideas they either currently do not hold or are opposed to ideas they currently hold.
which is literally what atheist parents do to kids, thanks for agreeing with me

>>211542914
So all the people who never heard about Jesus were brainwashed? Great argument.

>parents raising their children with their own values is brainwashing
Am I on reddit? I think you've lost the plot.

>>211542887
>the Bible says it’s okay to pick and choose which parts of the Bible to take literally, figuratively, or just outright ignore

A sane person would see this as the Bible admitting it’s bullshit.

>>211543015
There’s a difference between raising your children with your values and telling them scientists worship Satan and hate Jesus and that’s why they say dinosaurs weren’t in the garden of Eden 6000 years ago

>>211543083
atheists do hate God though, why else would you identify as an atheist? I'm sure there isn't a single atheist who hasn't heard of agnosticism.

>>211543007
When the parents actively avoid to even mention Jesus or explain the religion because they hate Christianity? Yeah, that's brainwashing alright.

>>211543040
Atheists are definitely not sane. I've talked to way more atheists that believed in lizardfolk aliens and ancient greek astronauts than christians who believed in such things

>>211543083
That was in reply to even arguing atheists raising atheist kids is a bad thing

He's right you know

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xmvybqkXjI

>>211543040
The standard of what's sane and ridiculous is laid by Christianity.
What's supposed to be insane for atheists? I mean, they believe anything could be, flying sphagetti monster, unicorns, leprechauns adinfinitum.

>>211543015
this nigga hasn't seen what communist parents do to their kids lmaoo

>>211540513
Probably because atheists start out as Christians.

The CIA hates Jesus Christ.
https://x.com/iluminatibot/status/1912211921895403891

>>211543348
But you literally said that atheist parents make atheist kids and that's a good thing and definitely not brainwashing

>>211543327
What do communists have to do with this conversation? Also, yes, should communists not have the right to raise their children how they see fit or should outside forces be allowed to intervene in families?

>>211543441
NTA but there is a difference between ideology and religion.

>>211543441
communists raise their kids with their own values and the kids end up becoming as fucking retarded as their parents lmao
communism, like faggotry and atheism, are literally parasitic entities

>>211543243
>no you see, it's the atheists that aren't same
anon, the sheer notion that without any fucking evidence to support it, you can interpret the Bible LITERALLY by itself requires you to either actively abandon the reasoning center of your brain, or mental illness.

And you can't be a Christian without accepting the Bible to be literal, unless you are one of those pussyfooting third way christcucks who realize that they can't defend their beliefs so it's "all le mystery bro" sophism.

What day did Jesus die on, anon? What month was he born in?

>>211543580
*anon

Has 4chan retardation really reached the point where I have to pretend God's Not Dead is kino because trannies or reddit or something?

>>211543632
You can just have authentic opinions and not worry, newfriend. This is an anonymous board. The God's Not Dead cinematic universe is just propaganda nonsense, propped up by Christian billionaires.

>>211543632
4chin is as reddit as they come outside of /pol/.

>>211543580
>he thinks that just because he doesn't believe in God he's sane
>he thinks that atheists can't be irrational
>he thinks that atheists don't do and believe things based on their feelings
grow up, seriously

>>211543757
>he thinks that just because he doesn't believe in God he's sane
correct, faggot. The claim by its nature, isn't very sane. Its just your chosen pet deity that would get you committed if it was ghouls, or goblins or ghosts.

>>211543829
I must have struck a nerve there

>>211543757
>believing in Biblical literalism
>telling anyone else to grow up
Bait, right?

>>211543901
No? I'm just explaining to you how silly you people always come off. Nobody should ever take you seriously in a public forum yet here we are, with microplastics in drinking water and the lowest average IQ in the West.

>>211543829
But isn't too wishful to believe is something we can't ever know to be true? That God doesn't exist?
(Children who believes in Santa are less wishful than that, you know?)

>>211543944
I don't know why we have to explain this for hundreds of fucking years now, but you don't "believe" something to NOT exist.

>>211541026
Martin Luther left the Catholic Church because he didn’t like that you pagan worshippers would put dead popes on mock trials and desecrate the bodies and simultaneously gatekeep the Bible from the common folk

>>211543983
Do you also not believe that God either exists or doesn't?

>>211543902
see
>>211542649

>>211543942
>with microplastics in drinking water and the lowest average IQ in the West.
You can thank the reigning atheistic culture for that. Thanks Dawkins, Carlin and Hitchens!

>>211544047
I believe you have never produced evidence that your deity exists so I don't expend mental space to entertain that it does. Because the way you are supposed to make sense of the world is to test it for predictable outcomes, this isn't hard.

I don't BELIEVE God(s) do or do not exists, I know you haven't produced the evidence needed to clear the bar. This has to be spoonfed to you every fucking time.

>>211544114
>You can thank the reigning atheistic culture for that.
Why?

>>211544114
Do you mean the Christian hypercapitalists who run Big Pharma? You seem confused.

>>211544154
This nigger is /his/ troll who just plays word games.

>Christianity and theism in general are rapidly going extinct in the West but also theists have formed all-powerful cabals that control every facet of Western society to freely brainwash legions of people and persecute atheism which has to fight a guerilla war of ideas to even stay relevant
The Atheist's Paradox

>>211544159
>>211544202
hahaha I called it >>211544229

>Why?
Science has stated that microplastics are completely good for you and IQ is racist as a concept towards minorities living up to white standards

>>211543199
Can’t hate what doesn’t exist. Christians do exist though, but they’re much less annoying than they used to be. Worst thing they’re doing now is supporting Israel because jews convinced them Israel being a single country will bring back Jesus

>>211544229
>atheism is going extinct among whites
>the cabal of theists are jews
>who are actively trying to displace the west with brown religious hordes
Not much of a paradox you got there.

>>211544154
Asking for evidence of the creator of evidence is also as retarded as saying
>I don't believe you are alive and I don't believe you are dead.
>I don't believe it's head and I don't believe it's tails.
>I don't believe it's odd and I don't believe it's even.
Belief and disbeliefs are two sides of the same coin.
I don't how you weasels manage to get away with this chicanery for hundreds of years.

>>211543326
Where’s sanity mentioned in the Bible?

>>211544339
Well that's one way to prove God I guess.
But why else would you supposedly believe that God does not exist aside from hate?

>>211544309
>Science has stated that microplastics are completely good for you
Nobody has ever fucking said this you deranged psychopath

>>211544229
You have one of the biggest lobbyist groups in the US, in what universe are you "rapidly going extinct"?

>>211544309
You literally wouldn't know what micro microplastics are of it wasn't for scientists discovering the adverse effect it's having on the world. Or were those the good christian scientists?

>>211544042
Actually it was down to how the clergy just made up whatever they needed to be in the Bible because only they could read it.

>>211544204
Lacktheism is the word game.

>>211544387
>evidence isn't a transitive property and you can't ask for evidence because....well because I said so! That's why! Now believe it implicitly and stop making fun of me
you are mentally unwell.

>>211544433
Aside from the horrendously massive lack of evidence? For literal thousands of years?

You wouldn't handwave anything else in your life like that...

>>211544534
Intelligent design is evidence, what's even your response to that anyways?

>>211544433
>But why else would you supposedly believe that God does not exist aside from hate?

The lack of evidence.

>>211544387
Christfags are mentally ill.

>>211544576
>>211544595
Of course. Like clockwork.

>>211544531
>if you spew gibberish at people they stop talking to you

>>211544387
>>211544531
>posting your own twitter musing as gotchas on an anonymous image board

>>211544640
It's a simple question brah, do you believe that God does not exist? Yes or No?

>>211544588
Intelligent design just moves God’s role in the universe from literally creating it all in seven days 6000 years ago to a steadily receding point in the now extremely distant past. It’s god of the gaps.

>>211544629
Yes, the lack of evidence for your canonically hands off creator deity that may or may not have done something to create the universe longer and longer ago every day will always be mentioned when you ask why people do not believe in your skydaddy.

>>211544386
>>211544475
keep proving me right lmao
I guess atheism is winning until it's not until it does again depending on the argument

>>211544696
You're playing word games out of common vernacular. You're an extreme midwit.

>>211544787
Just gonna double down now?

"Anti-Christian bias" has always meant "Anything that offends the sensibilities of American evangelical Protestants or implies that they don't have a divine right to dominate all aspects of everyone's lives."

>>211544588
Intelligent design is your excuse for Evolution because for some fuckall reason you cant just accept evolution as a biological fact.

>>211544445
>>211544500
The same atheists that believed microbes spontaneously came into existence and computers wouldn't be used anywhere else apart from universities or how men can really turn into women

>>211544832
No, I will remain at this state until something changes that. Like information, evidence, or even a compelling argument. But I can make better arguments for the existence of your god than you. That doesn’t mean I believe your god exists.

lmao just look up the synopsis of each of these films, it's pure victim complex shit.

>>211544787
I guess deists are retards now according to the average atheist (Einstein was a deist, for example)

>>211544881
Nothing to do with microplastics. Are you an actual retard?

>>211544629
>the greatest argument against me is just "clockwork"
Ok I guess?

>>211544905
Well neither your fallacy or the evidence is going anywhere either.

>>211544875
Biological facts came to be through God. God's existence and evolution are not mutually exclusive.

>>211544938
>trannyism
>nothing to do with microplastics

One of the ways to test someone's internal bias is to ask them if they could accept if their opinion was proved 100% unequivocally wrong. Like ask a tranny if they would be able to change their beliefs if science 100% proved that they were just mentally ill. Or ask a Bible thumper if God himself showed up & told them that gays were okay would they change. If a person retreats into denial over a purely rhetorical contrast to their beliefs then they aren't worth talking to.

>>211544806
How did I prove you right? How can Christianity be "going extinct" when it has the biggest lobbyist group?

>>211544875
It’s more of yet another christian word game where only conscious entities can “create” structure, skipping the part where structure is an interpretation/description.

>>211544960
Well at least you consistently believe in things that didn’t happen.

>>211544905
Anon, as you keep you keep using the word "believe", he's going to hone in on it out of context, ignoring everything else in your post.

>>211542306
No it doesn't, caterpillars don't have children

>>211545032
Uh huh.

>>211544983
because you claimed CHristianity is dying worldwide

>>211545035
And he looks like an idiot, which I believe is amusing.

>>211544921
Yeah but Einstein didn't believe in the bible and its god.

>>211545107
He definitely believed in a higher power, though. Atheists don't believe such a thing exists or can exist. objectively. Ergo, atheists believe Einstein is as retarded as the hickiest Alabama Bible thumper

>>211544576
you say that I can't prove that God exists
but you can't prove that science exists

>>211545168
I don't think he's retard, I just think he's wrong. Not every disagreement is a fight. Goddamn, get off the internet.

>>211545168
You throwing in with einstein doesn’t make anyone think he’s stupid.

>>211545168
>He definitely believed in a higher power
So do I but i'm "atheist" to human made gods like Allah and Yahweh

This quote still shakes an atheist to his core.
>N-no! My beliefs don't rely on faith! Only those idiots that believe in magic sky daddy do that!

>>211545355
God can be proven simply because it's true.
On the other hand, even proving God doesn't exist would have to require God as anything else, it's a funny dilemma.

>>211545168
>He definitely believed in a higher power, though.
This is as irrelevant as having a favourite color. He's functionally an atheist unless he's trying to reach some kind of spiritual gnosis. Otherwise, it's just fanciful musing about mysteries beyond human knowledge. Who the fuck cares?

>>211545355
We can disprove the god of the bible/quran. You believe in a higher power? Fine. There could be something. You believe in Yahweh? Then show me the bible is more than silly, man made stories.

>>211545355
I take dinosaurs having chubby cheeks and feathers on "faith" because lacking hard evidence and the self-admitted educated guesswork of archeologists. I don't take god on "faith" because there's literally zero evidence for him. And what god exactly are we talking? Christian monotheism, I assume. Fuck /r/atheism for the smug reddit atheist plague, now we've got tradcath larper faggots who still goon to loli hentai.

>>211545355>>211542214
Bruh you’re posting from your pro-atheist folder, not the pro-Christian folder.

>>211545355
Even assuming God or some sort of deity exists, there are enough of differing religions that many of them must be wrong, and there must be a reason why people would go and believe something wrong, and that reason is usually pretty practical. Just imagine, for a moment, that you don't have germ theory yet or the capacity to identify parasites, and you can't give a good, objective answer to why people who eat pork in your region tend to become sickly and live shorter lives, you just know that you've been around a long time and seen a trend that you think you should communicate to your people so they won't be sick so often. How are you going to get them to stop when you don't understand the root cause yourself, and they can just point to Dave, the guy who cooks his food extra well, and go "well Dave eats tons of pork and he's perfectly healthy, surely it's fine?"

The only way to do it is to appeal to an authority that's above proof.

>>211545355
The bible itself is all you need. An infallible book, written by God himself, that immediately starts off with two distinct creation stories, has far more than ten commandments, most of which aren't good moral teachings, and that has been edited and reedited so many times over its entire history, full of plagiarized ideas from cooler regional religions, depicting a slap fight between many different sources trying to keep their particular version of the fanfic propaganda in line.

>>211545224
>>211545240
>>211545302
>>211545506
>EVERYONE THAT BELIEVES IN A GOD IS A RETARDED APE
>But plenty of famous smart people believe in some deity or higher power
>WELL I DON'T HAAAATE THEM BUUUUUT....
lmao

>>211544531
I think I understand this gobbledygook. You’re insisting atheism is belief that your god doesn’t exist. When it’s just the lack of a belief that your god does exist.

>>211545091
No I didn't you illiterate retard, there are other posters here.

The clever part of this scam called religion is that the believers can bullshit their way through everything by saying stuff like "we're not meant to understand God", or "it's not for us to know as we're only human" or some shit. That's what makes it such a perfect scam. Cover all your bases. And with each major revision, cover even more and more.

>>211546169
Thanks for quoting the guy in the room with you.

>>211545198
I can though?

>>211542580
No, dude. I read like three of your posts and that’s enough to confirm that you are actually retarded.

>>211546245
>atheist can't suffer humorous banter but is fine with calling the other guy christcuck pedophile retard

>>211546319
case in point

>>211545355
Charles Darwin on the Ichneumon wasp, the insect that made him lose faith in God
>I own that I cannot see as plainly as others do, and as I should wish to do, evidence of design and beneficence on all sides of us. There seems to me too much misery in the world. I cannot persuade myself that a beneficent and omnipotent God would have designedly created the Ichneumonidae with the express intention of their feeding within the living bodies of Caterpillars, or that a cat should play with mice

I'm not going to read this thread I'm going to just remain ignorant and trust that God is repeatedly BTFOing atheists again and again. Because he is.

>>211546363
That guy you’re quoting sure talks strange.

>>211546427
>I'm not going to read
You and most American Protestants, apparently. lmao

>>211546418

>>211546418
atheist when nature is beautiful, interesting and wholesome
>YOU DON'T NEED A FUCKING GOD TO ENJOY ALL THIS. NATURE FINDS A WAY WITHOUT GOD
atheist when nature is icky, amoral and unwholesome
>HOW COULD A GOD CREATE ALL THIS FUCKING SUFFERING??

Pick one and stick with it

>>211544531
>Literally ‘Do your parents know you’re gay?’-tier questions

>>211546418
>>211546545
Isn't the fact that insects feel no pain a good thing, though? What's the matter if it parasitical organisms kill other organisms who feel no pain?

>>211546220
Also all the "evidences" come from some 2000 yo writings or cult member saying so, because.

>>211546554
That is one side though. The only time an atheist thinks about your god is when you start gibbering about him.

>>211540513
>atheists sure do hate christians
Are these the athiests that don't believe in God but know he promised jews isreal?

>>211546554
That’s not atheism, retard. That’s Gnosticism, the SUPERIOR belief, christcuck.

>>211538229 (OP)
>he kept watching when the first one is perfect conservative cringe
The best part is the band. There's video where they dress up like Nazis, but for christ.

>>211546554
lmao, as if religious people don't do the same bullshit. Almost every picture or video of nature and animals has some people always praising god.

>>211546665
Or when he wants to complain about some cosmic imbalance that made his life miserable. For a being that definitely doesn't exist, atheists sure love to heap blame on it. Talk about schizo behavior

>>211546194
>He did the meme.

>>211546674
Gnosticism is a belief system that states there is a realm of pure ideas and the ideas are sentient and once two of them interacted and created a combination of those two ideas which was expelled for not being a pure idea and that incest baby created physical reality to trap the essence of pure ideas in flesh.

>>211543632
4chan was invaded by rightoid christcucks in 2016

>since the beginning of human sentience all people on Earth have perceived the existence of God
>starting a couple hundred years ago some people rejected this ancient truth
>hurr durr I don't have to prove God doesn't exist my position is the default because I said so
So this is the power of infallible atheist logic

>>211540513
are Christians allowed to hate anyone?

>>211546738
religious people are on the average more world-knowing and wise than atheists and understand that this life can be enjoyed but is also temporal and its bad sides have to be endured
meanwhile atheists act like histrionic children. Things go their way? LIFE IS BEAUTIFUL BRO. Things don't? FUCK THIS LIFE I WANT TO KILL MYSELF

>>211546838
Devils, demons and sins are fair game.

>>211546757
A belief is a thing unto itself, that a person can have or not have. Atheism is a lack of a belief in (you)r god.

>>211543199
Religion cucks have to believe that any non religious person is a hardcore atheist obsessed by jesus

>>211546632
>Isn't the fact that insects feel no pain a good thing, though
Why do people assume this? For decades, people thought human babies couldn’t feel pain. No, they actually can, it’s just nobody remembers anything that happens to them as a baby. Same with fish and insects. They can feel pain, but they cannot vocalize it like most other animals. Literally a “I have no mouth and I must scream”. But no one thinks twice to smash a roach, because bugs are disgusting.

>>211546914
> Devils, demons and sins

Where are those mentioned in the Bible again?

>>211546936
seeing as how we have daily christian hate threads on 4chan, I'd say they are correct
they even have a dedicated anti-christian (not anti-religion, of course) board on cripple chan lmao

>>211546793
Yes, physical reality is a prison, and ergo inherently a disgusting realm.

>>211544047
This is just an update of “atheism is a religion,” except without as simple a rebuttal as “atheism is a religion like not collecting stamps is a hobby.”

I can't wait for atheists to die and realize God and the afterlife is real. Enjoy Hell!

>>211546963
because insects have no pain receptors. they can feel something is wrong with their body but literally can feel no pain about it.

>>211547018
> we have daily christian hate threads on 4chan

>>211547064
So you embraced religion so you could revel in the imagined suffering of people you’ll never meet.

Religion is good for people like you.

>>211547097
yeah. care to prove otherwise?
we even have a resident larpagan that blows up in anger about "christcucks" in every LotR thread he sees

>>211547018
That's on pol and they're legit retarded as in "getting gibs for being legally retarded"
I just don't think about religion unless some dweebs try to impress me which some early civilisation factoids mounted as facts.
There's no need for god unless you're afraid of dying and/or need an easy answer for every damn thing
Just have a negroni

>>211546869
Hold a child's severed head above her slaughtered family, stand proud as the blood of innocents pool to your shins and sing your accomplishment to the heavens in the name of your god. If you can do that without being smote, then you have proven there is no god worthy of worship.

>>211547183
I think you’re fixated on certain subjects and focus on them more than other people.

>>211547190
>Just have a negroni
isn't that what the atheist that killed himself over a whore did? Maybe he should have taken up religion after all

>>211547064
>Suddenly Matthew 5:44 doesn’t apply because they made you feel bad
Typical “Christian” behavior lol

>>211547244
nice fantasy, fedora boy. You think about killing babies to prove is not real often?

>>211547244
What if those people like… sucked or something?

>>211546927
>>211547058
Do you even believe what you say?

>>211547268
Why? Live in suffering and accept it as a godsend just because some dude sold you an afterlife? Lmao I'll have the second negroni

>>211547244
Why would you need to be a pagan to do that, the "Christian" (Jewish) God is fine with genocide.

>>211547383
mature people tend to solve their problems instead of killing themselves
if an atheist thinks it logical to kill himself over a woman, then he deserves ridicule

>>211547501
>ummm they are all fake christians or something

As much as people say atheists believe in nothing and nothing matters, I think those believers claiming it, actually believe in nothing. Because if you take away a god commanding them, presumably they don't have any values they would uphold, just a life based in fear or doing what someone above them says.

>>211547529
>heh actually we just have satanist jewish homosexuals in the church.

>>211547501
guys I was a christian a moment ago but pictures of christians doing bad things made me an atheist
tomorrow I will apply for a course on biogenetics.

>>211547522
But didn't Jesus let himself be crucified to save all of us for our sins or whatever? Isn't it borderline suicidal?

>>211547363
I am stating facts to refute your silly word game, yes.

>>211547501

>>211547363
>There is no God. I hold no belief in things that don’t exist

>>211547548
Atheists live lives based on chemical reactions and are no better than animals

>>211547660
Jesus is woke now.

>>211547660
>sacrificing yourself for the grace of humanity is the exact same as killing yourself over your wife that cucked you with a boy 20 years younger than you after you paid him a couple of thousand dollars to leave your wife alone (he didn't)

>>211547501
>God doesn't exist because... look at this guy in Wisconsin!
Atheists are pathetic. Always pretending to be beings of pure logic but this is always where they go first.

>>211547724
How are you living a life in any significant way more than an atheist? You're shitposting on 4chan on a Monday. Your life enriched by the spirit of God doesn't ammount to much.

>>211547757
That's because Jesus is just an excuse for their actions, not the reason for them. "I like God, so I have a get out of jail free card forever!"

>>211547783
>the grace of humanity
Yeah that ended up just fine huh

>>211547724
>If you don’t believe in God, what’s stopping you from going out and murdering someone?
This is something a Christcuck will actually ask you if you say you are an atheist. Like what the fuck? What an insane leap of logic.

>>211547717
So you don't. Got it. Wait...

>>211547802
>anyway, god is real because you wear an unfashionable hat

>>211547927
>There is no Santa. I don’t believe in him
OH MY GOD GUYS!!!! SANTA IS REAL!!!1!!!!111!!!!

>>211540513
tell that to the poster on /his/ who curses all atheists to hell every time he runs out of arguments

>>211547939

>>211547893
It’s because Christianity claims it invented right and wrong.

>>211548022
See: >>211548043
>>211548044
I don't they they believe you can invent what's right and wrong though.

>>211547873
I didn't claim I was? Why are you putting words in my mouth?
What's with atheists claiming you either are Jesus or a heathen? All humans are sinners by definition. If you consider me posting on 4chan sinful behavior it shows more about your understanding of Christianity than me

>>211547893
>What an insane leap of logic.
probably just a coincidence that the first explicitly atheist societies like revolutionary France, communist China, and the USSR immediately started mass murdering people when they seized power

>>211548037
It's infinitely retarded to risk eternal damnation so atheists do deserve hell unequivocally for hating God enough to be infinitely stupid.

>>211547893
>>211548044
>>211548103
>strawmanning this hard and this blatantly
lol

>>211548188
THOSE WEREN'T TRUE ATHEISTS AND IF THEY WERE THOSE CHRISTIANS THEY MURDERED BY THE HUNDREDS IN PUBLIC WERE REALLY ASKING FOR IT

>>211548188
>first explicitly atheist societies
Yeah, retards who shitpost on 4chan and work dead-end jobs and say they’re atheist most likely aren’t part of any atheist societies like that, retard.

>>211548186
Christians literally argue like jews.

>>211548188
>radical regime changes are violent
Yeah. TND

>>211548243
>Christian morality
>Ignores that Buddhist morality came before
Hmmm, curious.

Fagtheist sharts lost.

>>211548227
atheists are full of hate, eh?

>>211548243
What Christian morality? Timothy saying widows of a certain age should be refused charity? Europeans shaped christianity. The West has literally never followed the semeric autism of the gospels.

>>211548550
>Says the guy who posted a wojack
We know who really lost here.

Seeing God's Not Dead 2 at its midnight release in Chicago was probably the funniest movie theater experience I've ever had. It was literally just me and a few drunk friends and some old Mexican couple who probably thought the theater would be empty way at the top getting frisky

I like Jesus and everything but these movies suck ass. You know what's a good Christian movie? Of Gods and Men.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhQzn2gVGjQ

>>211548689
It's because they are made by superficial Christians.

>>211546427
What day did Jesus die on?

Christfags get the rope

>>211546554
The point with your second greentext is ways to showcase how hypocritical YOU are, anon. When we use your logic against you, almost beat for beat, God can only be explained as a callous, unfeeling or downright insane/evil force in the world.

When atheists bring up the "icky" and amoral cruelty of nature, it's to make you look fucking stupid for defending it as God's divine will because either he's not omnipotent in the world, or he's actively a champion for suffering.

You can't prove Go-ACK!!!

>>211548689
Why can catholics produce kino while other christian movies suck? Every good one I can think of was written or directed by a catholic.

>>211548937

>>211549110
Because the definition of “humble” changed from “have I done enough” to “it is not my place to do.”

>>211540931
Wait really? That's hilarious

God's not dead, he's surely alive!

>>211549760
That Christian morality at it's best

Ray Wise being the villain in the second movie because he was friends with the director or something is the funniest shit

>>211549760
Kind of, but not exactly. He gets run over by a car in a hit and run and is on the verge of death. The two pastors ask him if he wants to accept Jesus and he says yes, to which they celebrate just before he dies.

>>211550139
You’re not making it better

>>211550128
He was the best thing to come out of this whole series

>>211550006
lol

>>211550273
The soul is in the butt?

>>211550139
>>211550214
That's weird. It's like they cared more about him being converted or not than living or dying.

>>211550643
Yeah it's almost as if their ideology is insane.

>>211550643
>>211550819
Wow what a crazy death cult!
>meanwhile in atheistland

>>211551055
It always gets me that people will euthanize their pets because they don't want them to suffer, but then they freak out when a human decides they want to end their own life on their own terms instead of suffering a prolonged and painful death.

>>211551055
What is wrong with that?

>>211551324
Right, the pet doesn't even get to choose and is at the whim of the human's vibes and feelings yet this is okay.

>>211551055
Celebrating death is not the same as "i want go stay healthy and prevent dying"...one is literally a death cult. You are celebrating death lol

>>211551324
What a bizarre strawman to make.

>>211551055

>>211551709
no surprise that people like you that bought the lie that hospitals were completely overwhelmed over a year into Covid also believe that there couldn't possibly be any kind of higher power

>>211546972
In the middle

>>211543400
No I didn't.

>>211551966
There can be a high power, its just not a jew

>>211551966
>believe that there couldn't possibly be any kind of higher power

What you’re doing here is trying to broaden out your beliefs into forms that are harder to disagree with. This is how delusional people justify their beliefs to themselves and others.

>>211551685
I don't think you know what a strawman is.

>>211540513
Atheists hate their creators.
If you sowed shut the pussies of every christcuck in the west, atheists would go extinct before the christians. Jews even sooner.

>>211552258
>Atheists hate their creators.
yes, their parents

>>211552245
That's literally a strawman argument about literally nothing, nobody said about putting dogs down...

>>211552433
… yeah you don’t know what a strawman is

>>211552258
>sowed

>>211550643
Christianity textually says that the ones converted will LIVE in the afterlife. So no, they care more about him living than converting him, but converting him was the only way for him to keep living.

>>211552477
Are you pretending to be fucking retarded, anon? That's literally what a strawman is.

>>211552702
You’re confusing strawman and non-sequitur. Because you don’t know what a strawman is.

>>211551324
The problem is not people of sound mind with terminal illnesses at the end of their rope shortening their own lives by a few months to avoid suffering. The problem is that once these systems are instituted, hospitals start recommending it to just about fucking everyone. There was a court case where a family sued a hospital because a man went there with clinical depression and thoughts of suicide, so they just put him in the MAID program and fulfilled his wish. He wasn't old, he wasn't terminal, he was just depressed and needed help coping, but they just said, "Oh, you want to die? Here's the form for that!" and he was dead in a week. These programs are very quickly twisted into euthanasia programs that try to get as many people to sign up as possible in order to lower the number of patients and reduce overall cost of medical care. It's absolutely fucking evil.

>>211552837
Not sending people to prison for euthanizing the terminally ill who only have suffering in their future isn’t the same as wanting hospitals to hand out suicide pills.

>>211553087
You don't get to control how slippery the slope is, or where it leads. Like I said, the problem is not assisting terminal patients with ending needless suffering, the problem is what happens after such a system is put into place and how quickly it gets corrupted to horrifically evil ends. You imagine it being this wholesome arrangement that never goes wrong, but Canada's MAID system has literally proved what happens when assisted suicide becomes legalized. It's not pretty.

daily reminder that atheists are meanie poopy pants fart faces who make baby Jesus cry

I will start respecting atheists when they start being consistent and get around naked.

>>211540513
how come they only trash on Christians when they are anti-religion?

>>211546836
>since the beginning of human sentience all people on Earth have perceived the existence of God
>immediately starts his post with a lie
lol you can't even help yourselves, can you?

>>211552806
Please for the love of fucking imaginary Christ, Google "what is a strawman".

>>211553922
Say that to my face and I'll give you the most wholehearted peaceful beating.

>>211553344
Slippery slope is the assertion that a trend will continue on its own with no action by anyone. Everything that has been called a slippery slope has had hundreds/thousands of extremely motivated and well funded people actively pushing to the next landmark. This is why people laugh at you when you call something a slippery slope.

Going from “let’s not arrest doctors for ending intractable suffering” to “doctors pushing suicide pills” would require action, policy changes in multiple entities and new legal language. If people pushing for suicide pills to be pushed are found, just exposing them should be enough to back them off.

>>211553344
Member when that handicapped lady was asking for a ramp to her home and they instead offered to kill her

>>211554004
Tell you what? That Christ is imaginary or that you don't know what a strawman is you stupid cuck?

>>211542214
how true is the conspiracy theory that evolution was pushed by the british royal society? On the surface it makes sense enlightenment thinkers needed a theory to fill the vacuum that rejecting creationism left.

>>211553922
No, you. Where do you think anyone said anything about anyone else advocating for the euthanasia of animals?

>>211553800
Because burgers and eurocucks are afraid of muslims and jews.

>>211554145
Well considering the entire royal society establishment were Christians who thought Darwin was a quack...

>>211554004
condolences on your tiny and insignificant genitalia

>>211554168
>he's illiterate too
What a shock

>>211553800
Because it's still the biggest, most far reaching and relevant religion.

>>211554145
Nta 100%, same with most dinosaur information, not that they wholly didnt exist but theres tons of fake information and "excavation teams" letting themselves go into areas and extract all the rare earth minerals on the back of "we just found 4000 new species of mimus". The reality is that most of these "different species" are the same species at different ages and shit, and they likely arent millions and millions but thousands and thousands

>>211554116
No one sane thinks much of anything about Canadian hijinks beyond maybe as a cautionary tale. And even that’s a stretch as stories like that are just designed to make you not want universal healthcare to justify the greed of several industries.

>>211547058
cute, but the 'no positive claim' is cope by poptheists and it's not taken seriously by any field of philosophy. Claims have to be defended. There is no "default" position. Do you also think anarchists, nihilists, amoralists don't have to defend their claim?

>>211540931
>atheist gets what they deserve
Don't see the problem

>>211554284
Always defer to the opinion of a man who appends his clauses with "and shit."

>>211554284
Right. Fossils being evidence of intermediary species requires one to accept a priori that species change. Otherwise they are just evidence of an extinct species that looks similar to another.

>>211554084
>Going from “let’s not arrest doctors for ending intractable suffering” to “doctors pushing suicide pills” would require action, policy changes in multiple entities and new legal language.
Anon, I'm talking about the MAID program in Canada. This shit is already happening for real. The MAID program was designed to be a way for terminally ill patients to end their suffering, it required zero change in any policy or language for them to start pushing it on everyone they possibly could, the existence of a human euthanasia program is all that was needed to enable it.

>>211554532
You see these kinds of logical leaps all the time, like when people claim that our ape ancestors "left the trees because they saw berries growing on bushes and the snakes moving into the trees over time" like fucking pardon, how did you scientifically come to that conclusion?

>>211554394
>you should literally be killed by a car for your beliefs or non beliefs
Christian love folks.

>>211554658
Probably because they were apes that shit and their shit was fossilized, are you people really this dense?

>>211554261
>I misread something? No you are illiterate!

You made up a situation in your head to get mad at.

>>211554381
The inability to prove a negative is a very seriously taken philosophical edict.

>>211554690
Anybody hateful who claims to be religious is like this. They do it so they can dismiss any argument that they're in the wrong. Basically "God says it's ok to treat women/POC/queer people poorly, so I'm still a good person." It comes from this twisted belief that being a good person can become what you inherently ARE rather than what you DO. People want to feel they are better than others without putting in the effort. So instead find an easy target and say that all such examples of those with similar qualities are evil. If they are evil, then you are good. It's easier than true self-reflection and self-criticism.

>>211554835
Again, please, not for me but for yourself
..fucking Google "I'm a retard and what is a strawman?" And proceed to stop posting.

>>211554757
You found old deer shit and called it millions of years old

>>211554596
You’re talking about socialized healthcare having an incentive to reduce costs. Incentive means it isn’t a slippery slope.

>>211555029
Lol ok, what a cope that is. How stupid do you think scientists are?

These films would be better if they had even an ounce of decent theology.
Hinging your entire belief structure on "good thing happen therefore God is real" puts you one bad day away from falling out and misses that every singular breath you are given is more than youve earned.

>>211554993
I know what a strawman is. There isn’t a strawman in >>211551324. You misread it and felt you were being attacked because you’re naturally belligerent and confrontational.

>>211555230
Most Christians are far too stupid to understand any of the sciences. Why do you think their only "rebuttal" is "uhhh they made it all up just to trick me!"

>>211555294
My brother in stupid, imaginary, gay, throat goat Christ, that's a strawman...

>>211554658
Like I said it's not crazy to see how it all leads to a movement in the 1700s that was all about rejecting God. I don't even have a problem with the atheistic world view of evolution, but the model taught in schools is insanely miraculous in its explanations. The theory is accepted a priori and any objections are explained away with a story (no observable evidence) and a begging of the question, because well we're here so it must have happened somehow.
>>211554757
It's not that simple. A huge problem of evolution that even (honest) atheists must recognize is stuff like irreducible complexity. How does an organ evolve if it only has ANY utility in its final functional form, and any mutations toward that form would only be a detriment and thus have no reason to be selected for?
giving the cake millions of years in the oven is a dumb richard dawkins poptheist response that's just ingratiating, not real science.

>>211555354
And yet you can’t describe how. Some dude waxes a bit about how odd/inconsistently we treat death and you feel attacked

>>211555410
I can't with you anymore. I truly can't.

>>211555335
>They disagree with me becuz they dumb
What would you say if I told you that this is the argument of a stupid person with a less-functional brain?

>>211554284
>they likely arent millions and millions but thousands and thousands
Yes. Dinosaurs coexisted with ancient man.
https://mexicounexplained.com/ancient-dinosaur-figurines-acambaro/

>>211555371
> how it all leads to a movement in the 1700s that was all about rejecting God

You mean the height of the Spanish Inquisition?

>>211555429
You never could.

>>211555452
>>They disagree with me becuz they dumb
That's not at all what I said. Apparently we can add basic reading comprehension to the things you're incapable of.

>>211555218
Your overly strict and pedantic definition of "slippery slope" does not change anything about what I've said. Allow human euthanasia for one group you deem it merciful/just for, and you will end up with human euthanasia for everyone. We can watch it happen in real time right now in Canada.

>>211555371
>How does an organ evolve if it only has ANY utility in its final functional form

You have no examples of this.

>>211555568
You said:
Christians are dum
Dey dun git science like I....heard someone tell me once
And finally "yall muthafuckas lyin and gettin me pissed"
Nothing was missed

>>211555635
>your definition is pedantic
So is that dictionary definition pedantic too?

>>211553800
I trash jews literally every single day of my life.

>>211555679
I only described what this dipshit and others like him are doing >>211554284
Why are you chimping out, anon?

>>211555701
>continues to whine about definitions instead of discussing the point at hand
Holy shit, I'm done replying to you.

>>211555771
Because another anon called you on it for saying "dey dum I smart" to which you replied "I didnt say that" but you in fact, did, and are blaming someones lack of reading comprehension for reading words you 100% wrote

>>211555371
No evolutionary biologist says this, there's no "irreducible" problem with the fossil record, you idiots tend to hear the term evolution and assume it's a zero sum game of an organism changing in positive ways all the time. That's not how adaptation and mutation works, it's not a perfect system, it's reliant on the environment and the position the organism finds itself in, especially in locked food chains that force certain creatures to develop bizarre features.

With how complex biological evolution is for the dumbest reasons, makes your argument sound silly. It just always comes off as if you don't know what evolution says.

>>211555801
The point at hand is Canada proved why it’s a bad idea to categorically adopt a pro-euthanasia position at every level government and healthcare, and has begun reeling it back in due to all the negative press it has caused.

>>211555849
Buddy, I didn't say Christians are stupid because they believe in Jesus. I said most of them are stupid because they make stupid arguments, the proof of which I just linked to. So are you pretending to be retarded just to argue, or are you really this brain-dead?

>>211555525
You have to be baiting that you don't know what a strawman is.

>>211555948
Now youre just adding words to what I said to squirm out of it.

>>211555992
The sad thing I know you’re not trolling. You’re just stupid and confrontational. But that amuses me.

>>211556031
Bro, you can Google "what is a strawman".

>>211555992
How is >>211551324 attributing to another or (you) a misrepresented form of your argument that is easier to defeat, and then acting as if they defeated it?

>>211555888
Nah, youre just narrativizing a bunch of bullshit to handwaive having to make the connection.

>>211554965
I don't where this meme started from but yes, a negative can be proven. There is no logically contradictory about it.
It doesn't matter if it's a negative or what not, you have to prove your claims to be true. This is basic logic.

>>211556010
Genuinely brain-dead, got it.

>>211556139
Bud, biological evolution isn't just "things I observed", it's looking at genes, DNA...this has become flat earth tier denial.

>>211555465
No the enlightenment
>>211555640
There's dozens of examples. It's a well known paradox bro I'm not making shit up.
>>211555888
You don't understand how evolution works if you think it's that simple. Your romantic edgy story of millions of years of sacrifices doesn't answer the question. It's not about how much time and death it takes, it's a matter of the possibility of any speciation at all occurring. How does incremental mutations cause a creature with a 2 chamber heart to develop additional chambers, if an alteration in the 2 chamber heart would be a detrimental anatomical feature, or at best, extra energy expenditure for no benefit?

>>211556160
It started when we started basing decisions off evidence, law, etc, rather than feelings/whims. You can’t prove you weren’t someplace, but you can prove you were someplace else.

>>211547058

>>211556275
> There's dozens of examples.
List them. You won’t, because the first google result will be images and diagrams of existent prefunctional organs on various species.

>>211556290
If I prove I'm at X, that does prove I'm not in non-X.

>>211556304
Pretty funny, anon. But to be fair, some religious people actually do have a grasp of basic logic.

>>211556275
>an alteration in the 2 chamber heart would be a detrimental anatomical feature, or at best, extra energy expenditure for no benefit?
You didn't read anything I said...not every adaptation is some clairvoyant improvement, you can evolve shitty things too. You fundamentally don't understand how mutations over time work.

>>211556304
>not having a belief is the same as being dead

>>211556393
Not how it works. But trying to explain logic to the religious is pretty much impossible.

>>211556389
>because the first google result will be images and diagrams of existent prefunctional organs on various species
refer to my last post
>any objections are explained away with a story (no observable evidence) and a begging of the question, because well we're here so it must have happened somehow
you're the one telling a story of what happened billions of years ago without observing it. Functional organs today aren't evidence for your case bud.
>>211556421
>you can evolve shitty things too
and those die out most of the time right? that's the mechanism of survival of the fittest. Tell me how does any benefitial alteration happen when the incremental steps to get to it are "shitty"?

>>211556498
Oh boy, here come the materialists claiming ownership of the transcendental laws of logic.

>>211556498
If you say something CAN'T be, impossible, there has be something contradictory.
But there isn't anything contradictory about proving a negative.

>>211556583
There are literally dozens of examples of mutations that don't immediately benefit the organism, there's a term literally for "things that the organism no longer needs", the word is vestigial.

Its not evolutionarily advantageous for a whale to have fucking hip and leg bones anymore, but lo, they have legs still.

>>211556596
It has nothing to do with "ownership." It would be like saying 2+2 is 22 and claiming you're good at math. There's no point in arguing with a goofball that just makes up their own rules so they can "win."

>>211556940
So you believe in immutable transcendent objectivity?

>>211556620
Here's a thought exercise: Pick a mythological creature you don't believe exists, be it big foot or unicorns or aliens or whatever you so personally choose. Now, come up with proof of that creature's nonexistence.

>>211557009
*Jordan Peterson voice*
Well, I guess that would depend on what you mean by believe, and what you mean by in, and what you mean by so.

>>211554394
Not very Christian of you, larper.

>>211557310
>Knowledge can't be false.
>I know your x mythological creature doesn't exist.
>Your x mythological creature doesn't exit.

>>211557508
How do you know it doesn't exist? Prove it.

>>211556691
Well, rather, the whales who had long exterior legs were more likely to get them ripped off and die, and not pass on their genes.

>>211557582
Same way I know the universe exists and that I'm not the only in existence and that nature will be continue to be uniform.
>Prove it.
You're forgetting the first premise.
>>211543326

>>211540604
Okay so what country am I telling?

>>211557582
Don’t you get it? He’s already heard those arguments and doesn’t agree with them so they’re wrong. His mythological creature is totally different from other mythological creatures.

>>211557807
Gaytheists are so silly
>I know this because I see this

>>211557807
>my logic is completely circular thus I win

>>211557895
>I know this because my pastor told me this

>>211557962
>Nothing actual can be proven or known without an infallible source, God. (True)
>Things are known. (True)
>God exist. (True)
It's in the form of a syllogism, how is it circular?

>>211558156
Circular logic is when every bit requires every other bit to be true for the circle of logic to remain stable.

>>211558156
>Nothing actual can be proven or known without an infallible source, God. (True)
See? You started with your conclusion (an assumption).

>>211558156
I just successfully deciphered this and now I just see you as a deeply sad and scared individual in a world beyond his comprehension who made up an imaginary friend that has a handle on everything and he’s got your back.

>>211558537
It's a logical fact doe.

>>211558639
No, it isn’t. It’s a conclusion that requires at least two other conclusions to be true.

>>211558568

>>211558758
You’re welcome.

>>211558727
Are you confusing a logical fact with an actual fact? It would explain why you're an atheist to begin with.