Jimmy and Kim - /tv/ (#211550755) [Archived: 1289 hours ago]

Anonymous
6/16/2025, 9:58:46 PM No.211550755
Saul
Saul
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At the risk of being way too late for the party (I just finished BCS), I'm confused by people's attitudes on Kim. I don't really think she's the best or the worst person. She seems simultaneously sympathetic (towards Jimmy) and self-absorbed (enough) that she gets driven to do most of the horrible things she did without regard for final consequences. Sure, she becomes more of the instigator later on, but I think it's the result of her hitting a sort of critical mass of how Jimmy has rubbed off on her. The whole Howard plotline just felt like a fixation that she couldn't let go of and couldn't see where it would lead, but not one motivated by malice. Does that make her evil?
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 10:17:34 PM No.211551639
>>211550755 (OP)
BCS was overall garbage, not the actors, they did a great job, but the script was ass.
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 10:23:12 PM No.211551934
>>211551639
Did you think Breaking Bad's was better or worse?
I think the character writing was exemplary. I think that I'd forego criticizing any other writing issues in favor of seeing them purely as a vehicle for developing Jimmy and Kim.
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 10:27:36 PM No.211552166
>>211551934
Breaking Bad suffered from similar problems, script was ass the longer it went on but the good actors were carrying it somewhat.
also BCS was held back by this whole prequel shit.
the show would been better if it started out after Breaking Bad and was about Saul trying to pull his ass out of this whole walther white mess.
that would have a lot more potential.
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 10:29:22 PM No.211552256
>>211550755 (OP)
Kim is the best written female character because she embodies the fact that women love transgression more than anything else. The scene where she jumps Jimmy's bones after they prank Howard is the most truthful scene ever put to film.
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 10:30:47 PM No.211552325
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>does going out of her way to destroy an innocent man's life purely for fun, causing his wife to leave him and eventually getting him murdered make her evil?
Uh yeah. It does.
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 10:37:04 PM No.211552604
>>211552325
Yes, even if Howard hadn't happened to get killed by Lalo at the precise moment he had, I think most people should have recognized how that level of sabotage could drive a person to suicide, which is where I thought it was going. I don't think Kim ever took the time to consider how their actions were putting him on that path though. Didn't she genuinely believe sabotaging Sandpiper was for the greater good and that the defamation would just be a means to an end? Or was that just pretense?
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 10:46:00 PM No.211553110
>>211552166
Yeah the prequels pose an interesting narrative problem. I spent all of BCS thinking I had seen Lalo in BB and so assumed he wasn't going to die yet (I don't know where I got that idea from, probably because I knew he had been mentioned). Although knowing Kim wasn't in BB also added suspense because I thought she would certainly die. All in all I thought the show did well at avoiding some of the traditional prequel pitfalls, although my retardation certainly helped
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 10:51:10 PM No.211553364
>>211552256
I just didn't believe the character they had written would go as far as they did in their actions

I don't believe a middle aged lawyer lady would go down this tawdry romance with Jimmy and would deal with the cartel and sabotage Howard like that

Sort of like the end of the series when Saul tears up his sentencing agreement by going on a tangent about how everything bad that happened was his fault and gets 80 years in ADX Florence I understood what they were trying to do with the themes and narrative I just simply did not believe the character they had written would have done that
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 10:59:59 PM No.211553736
>>211553364
That's fair. Kim is supposed to be an extraordinarily bright and successful lady which I think should imbue a degree of foresight. I can understand how one might blow off steam through some of the earlier pranks, but not in the form of fraud and harassment in the way that it was engineered. She is simultaneously brilliant, impulsive, evil, and clueless at times. That inconsistency is probably what provides depth or the illusion thereof.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 11:04:36 PM No.211553954
kettlesneed
kettlesneed
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were they autistic?