Was the 1990's really the last era for kino entertainment?

I'm so old.

>90s
>The best decade for music
lol, music died in the 90s thanks to corporate bands like Pearl Jam, Creed, Nickelback.

>>211565173 (OP)
90s entertainment was just a bunch of edgy slop

>>211565876
lol zoomer

>>211565776
Golden age of electronic music.

>>211565909
Sorry, unc. You look very serious in your fedora, sunglasses, leather trench coat, and fingerless gloves.

>>211565776
>Pearl jam
>literally went to war and circumvented Ticketmaster for upcharging ridiculous fees and monopolizing ticket sales
>corporate

Grunge bands were the furthest thing from corporate you could possibly get in the music industry. Literally the antithesis of corporate as a reaction to fake, corporate hair bands you are a moron

>>211565776
>music died in the 90s thanks to corporate bands
No, that was the 80's. 90's bands took off because of the indy scene, and the indy scene took off because people were sick and tired of corporate hair metal band #836 being shoved down their throats on Mtv and the corporate monopolized radio stations. They called it "alternative" music exactly because 90's bands offered an alternative to the corporate mandated formulaic bullshit that took over the 80's.

Regardless, the 70's was the apex of music in the U.S., and the west.

>>211566255
This anon knows.

the world ended after 9/11

>>211566475
9/11 was a satanic ritual

>>211566475
Shit changes. Sometimes for the better, sometimes not.

Jesus Christ how horrifying

>>211566475
9/11 started the decline

The 2008 Recession coupled with the emergence of smartphones was the final nail in the coffin

>>211565776
you may as well call the sex pistols corporate, that is how stupid you sound calling a grunge band corporate.

>>211565173 (OP)
no, boomers who were born in the 90s just say that to feel important

>>211565173 (OP)
Interesting to be listening to Tool while seeing this thread.

I'm impressed how accurate it is.

i found a portable tv in the garage, it has a giant ass antenna, looks like pic related

>Interesting to be listening to cringecore while seeing this thread

>>211567204
why did the jews killed analog tv again?

>>211567204
Analog broadcasts stopped a long time ago. You'll need a converter box and some sort of input for the TV to watch anything. If the TV has no inputs it's basically trash, although I guess you could look into modding one in.

>>211566656
The world still seemed real until about 2012.

I was born in 88 but I have no nostalgia for the 90s, probably because I had a major head injury in 2001 and forgot a lot of shit.

>>211565173 (OP)
>lewinsky
kek

>>211566255
>Grunge bands were the furthest thing from corporate you could possibly get

>>211566956
>that is how stupid you sound calling a grunge band corporate.

t. rubes

>See a movie.
>Talk about the movie with friends.
>See a show.
>Talk about the show with friends.
>Recommend stuff to each other.

>Now it isn't this movie vs that movie or this show vs that show.
>Now it is streaming show vs movie vs podcast vs videogame vs doomscrolling on social media.
>Every one is too stressed, divided and watching junk or comfort food.
>People form parasocial relationships with online commentators just to get a tiny sense of how it felt to talk about media with your friends.
>And these commentators regurgitate that same opinions back to people.
>People either blindly enjoy something because the viral trend told them to and they can't articulate why they liked it.
>Or people blindly hate something because culture war narrative told them to.

>>211565173 (OP)
No, it was the 2000s

>>211565776
>Creed, Nickelback.
didn't get big until the 00s, you fucking zoomer

>>211565173 (OP)
Movie rental stores were just as bad as streaming services but worse because they had a limited number of dvds or vhs tapes. The same kind of licensing shit existed back then so you’d end up having go from blockbuster to your shitty local rental franchise if you wanted a specific film and god forbid if you needed an indie or foreign film because usually no one fucking had it

>>211566475
Americans deserved 9/11

>>211567385
Its insane to even look at our current world

No cultural zeitgeist, no major music scene, movies are just copy and pasted while AI has blurred the lines of what is real and what isn't
This really feels like we're in the epitome of soullessness

>>211566956
Is this bait? Pistols were marketed by suits

>>211565173 (OP)
all the windows boxes and software around the imac is a nice touch

>>211568093
>t.

>>211567695
>and god forbid if you needed an indie or foreign film because usually no one fucking had it
Based, 99% of that shit isn't worth watching

>>211568093
he's literally me

>>211567385
That's because the Mayans were right and the old reality ended in 2012.

>>211566475
The Raimi Spider-Man movies came out after 9/11 so no it didn't.

>>211567464
dont ever comment about gen x topics ever again you broccoli headed fucktard. Everything about gen x was wrestling control of culture away from corporations and keeping it organic and real and you stupid fucks became the most hedonistic materialistic fucksticks to ever walk th face of the earth

Any time some retard gets excited for a remake or adaptation nowadays it's because of what happened in the late 90s/early 2000s. It's taken over 20 years for the good will created Spider-man, LotR trilogy, Pirates trilogy, Matrix, and a couple others made people think anything was possible and any adaptation would be made with the same level care from everyone involved. It took 20+ years to kill the optimism these films brought.

>>211567464
>he fell for the corpo propaganda trying to coopt grunge to ruin their reputations by association and distract from the horseshit they engaged in for the latter half of the 20th century
imagine

>>211565173 (OP)
>Last decade before the future
The 90s WAS the future.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pO2vLRrMWc

>>211567695
>search for a movie on jewflix
Nothing related even shows up
>look in horror section at blockbuster
Dozens of flicks, joints, films, and movies to choose from.

>>211567507
>Hey have you seen Action Show?
>No, but I've been meaning to. Have you seen Romantic Comedy Show?
>I've only seen the first episode. Don't spoil it. Have you seen Horror Show?
>Dude, I heard that was good. Can't wait to see it. I hear it's like Spooky Show.
>My girlfriend watched Spooky Show but I haven't seen it yet.
>Dude, you have to watch Spooky Show. It's from the creator of Serial Killer Show.
>Bro, Serial Killer Show was crazy.
>I know, man. Such a good show.
Talking about TV is absolutely mindnumbing nowadays. Part of the reason I still watch sports is because it's the only serialized entertainment where you can still have an interesting conversation about what is going on in it. I deeply miss when shows were cultural phenomenons and you'd watch and episode and be excited to talk to your friends about it the next day.

>>211567204
I remember buying one of these thinking it had porn

>>211567779
You're going to need to be edgier than that here.

>>211567695
>limited number
Streaming services have choice paralysis, TOO MUCH CONTENT, which often leads people to stick into their comfort zones harder! Simultaneously a lot of that content feels samey which drives people towards apathy.

Having a limited amount of choice meant that if I felt like watching a horror movie I would have a selection avaliable and could take a chance on something and be surprised.

You don't understand the psychology of this at all. Sometimes too much of something is a bad thing because you'd never risk watching something and finding a gem or a so bad its good film on a whim. Streaming drives you towards apathy in a way that renting a random movie doesn't.

>>211565776
If this is bait it's magnificent
If it's not you're an enormous faggot and retard

>>211568294
The Mayans didn't say the world would end in 2012. They said the 13th baktun would end in 2012. It just so happened that the Higgs boson was discovered that year and opened a black hole which sucked us into a different dimension.

>>211568683
Zoomers will never understand the feeling of renting a movie you've never heard of and willing it to be good as you watch it because you can't switch to anything else. Appreciation is a learned skill.

I was thinking this while watching Ocean's Eleven yesterday, but up until like 2007-2010ish the world felt like it was still on the same trajectory as it had been.
Like comparing an early 90s movie to an early 00s you can see the changes and they make sense, it felt natural.
Then in the 2010s it feels like we went completely off fucking track and the days of old feel like they took place on a different planet

>>211568305
t. zoomer "remembers" the 90s

>>211565173 (OP)
Maybe it's cause I was born in 1991 but this shit is making me cringe.
It's left in the past for a reason.

>>211568516
>I deeply miss when shows were cultural phenomenons and you'd watch and episode and be excited to talk to your friends about it the next day.
I am convinced that the only reason something like the MCU became so big around Infinity War/Endgame is because people just wanted an excuse to talk about something again and have a cultural moment. So many shows that have become big or viral based on social media trends have been like that. People went crazy for Tiger King over the pandemic. People went crazy for Wednesday because she did a dance that went viral. Some people now are so desperate to connect with others over stuff.

>>211565173 (OP)

Smart phones destroyed the world. Everyone I knew turned into a retard once they started carrying the internet around in their pocket.

>>211565173 (OP)
>the past is entirely defined by its pop culture and consumptive elements
No.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYbe-35_BaA

>>211568516
>Part of the reason I still watch sports is because it's the only serialized entertainment where you can still have an interesting conversation about what is going on in it.
And unfortunately it's going into the shitter too. That was the last bit of modern broadcasting I watched and now that's about to end. Idk what I'll do, just watch youtube I guess

>>211568828
Writers strikes and #metoo around that time were huge in removing all the experienced veterans who actually knew how to make a movie. These "social" movements were nothing but a cynical ploy to replace the industry with ideologically driven useful idiots who could be paid less and wouldn't push back against the studio with their fame and influence.

>>211567507
>>211568516
Last time I was able to enjoy this communion level of discussion was with Succession. My friends love Severance too but I didn't care for it so I was out of that conversation.

This has nothing to do with media quality being worse (it isn't) and everything to do with Netflix'a gay binge model taking over. If a show releases a season all at once, it's guaranteed to ruin discussion.

>>211568683
I really wonder what the choice is between the number of titles on any given streaming service vs. the number of titles in an average movie store

Seems like they'd be about even, there was a lot of dogshit available to rent in stores back then

>>211568999
Older writers were journey men who cut their teeth in many different mediums because writing didn't pay well. They had to fight tooth and nail for what they got. Writers used to be kings of television and directors kings of movies.

The new generation tend to be college educated who have only ever written for online stuff who allow themselves to be paid less and less just for the privilege of being part of something. They love pop culture but also despise it and see it beneath them. (But they are too dumb for actual culture.) They write on the level of fanfic but think they are creating deep and meaningful works too. And often they produce ugly work. They aren't even good propagandists because often their work is so ugly it has the opposite effect to what they originally intended. They can't form basic stories or characters sometimes. And studios have loved moving to the showrunner/executive producer format making writers and directors but cogs in the machine even more.

>>211568896
That's kind of the point of media. The shared experience is most of the reason to watch it. Somewhere along the way this was lost and it was turned into a consumptive act rather than a social one. It think this is why shows that released weekly recently have done better. Watching something like Lost now makes no sense. The whole point was to watch week to week, talk to people about it, speculate, etc. Without that element, especially with how trash media has gotten, you are just consuming slop to pass the time until you die.

>>211568896
I'm sure all the think tanks that decide all our cultural trends have a term for it, but for a while now we've been in the mode where the product is really the narrative around the thing rather than the thing itself. A lot of the woke garbage is produced literally just for people to call it woke garbage, because that is still viewership and engagement. I think most entertainment products basically have their narratives and counter-narratives fully built in before they're released, and executives just sit back and watch people say the exact things they expected them to online.

>>211568977
I knowingly put up with a ton of garbage just for the feeling of being part of an ongoing narrative. I only watch football now because it's only 18 games a season, as oppose to the deluge of blandness that is basketball and baseball. But putting up with the infiltration of sports gambling is becoming close to insufferable

>>211569032
>Seems like they'd be about even, there was a lot of dogshit available to rent in stores back then
Depends on the store, how it was formatted and what was avaliable. I think it still pales in comparison to streaming. And even then, even if there was a similar number of things, I think the perception and psychology are far different. In a store you have a limited amount of time, on a streaming service you can doom scroll over and over. On a streaming service you can stop and start.

Streaming devalues entertainment, not just financially but also in how we see and respond to it. Don't like a streaming movie? Watch something else. That lowers the bar in terms of how much you might tolerate a movie which in turn limits what you enjoy making it feel narrower despite the amount of content.

I'm always fascinated by how even similar looking things (the amount of movies on offer say) are actually vastly different experiences that can fundamentally change how people experience things.

>>211568910
Yep, Steve Jobs was the antichrist

>>211569032
I feel like Blockbuster had more. All the new to video releases were in one place and it had a lot of weird random garbage, too. Netflix is like 99% weird random garbage.

>>211569266
>The shared experience is most of the reason to watch it.
Well yeah, no shit. People nowadays are so desperate for the shared experience of media that they have turned to parasocial relationships with Youtubers to get the same fix as talking shit with people. And some people are so deformed all they have is endlessly complaining about it and not even experiencing anything anymore.

>>211569274
>and executives just sit back and watch people say the exact things they expected them to online.
So many executives are so disconnected they really don't understand this shit or online narratives because they just think people will moan regardless of what they do. A lot of that "fuck the fans" mentality is like that, because they think the fans will always complain.

>>211569266
I mean... That is a flaw of Lost, though. The show has good drama and acting, but ultimately 90% of its appeal is in mystery box shit that has basically no satisfying resolutions stretched out across sitcom level seasons. That show was a pioneer in some ways but it has aged horribly.

A friend of mine started watching Sopranos last year and he fucking loves it. That show holds up way better.

>>211569030
Sucesion was so fucking good
Not only was it good to follow along, but it ended perfectly without dragging on too much
Masterpiece, I pity the /tv/ posters that missed out on watching that with us week to week

>>211569472
>its aged horribly
Some things are absolutely fine being a product of their time. Lost was crafted as a purely social show and there is nothing wrong with that. The idea that the only good media is timeless media you can enjoy entirely privately is bullshit.

>>211569694
I mean, I was disappointed halfway through it at the time already. It was all smoke and mirrors to me. I got good discussions out of it when I thought it was gonna be great overall and there are some brilliant moments in it that still stick to mind, but there's no rule that a show can't be a good social show and a good show that holds up at the same time. Lost's failing is that it could only do one part of it. Sopranos, The Wire, Breaking Bad, Succession. These shows achieved both.

>>211569030
The way make a binge show work is to have a dedicated watch party with your social group. But I shouldn't have to form a blood pact to enjoy something. Weekly release is so much better. Within a few weeks people realize if a show is good or not and you then have a little bit of time to catch up and join the watch bandwagon. And then you have a dedicated time it releases on so you know when to be ready each week to shoot the shit over it.

>>211569472
>but ultimately 90% of its appeal is in mystery box shit that has basically no satisfying resolutions stretched out across sitcom level seasons.
I liked the characters and realised the show wasn't going to answer the questions well pretty early on. But still liked going back to hang out with the characters.

Part of me thinks that consumerism has driven the idea that what you watch needs to mean something so hard that people can't just chill out and enjoy a show like a hang out. Nah it is life and death, viral show you must give 200% of your self for, it must matter, everything must be answered and please everyone or else! It sets ridiculously high expectations that will never be met.

>>211569835
And it's incredibly hard to achieve both. So hard everyone lists the same handful of shows each time and I don't agree with half of them.

>>211569835
Also, another example of a good social show that fell apart is Game of Thrones. People like to talk about the last season, but it was already only working as a social show by the third or fourth season.

>>211569854
Yeah, basically. I just hope I get another Succession within the decade. Felt so good to talk to my friends and with /tv/ about it week to week.

>>211565776
I was thinking this might be the gayest band pic of all time, but they're all pretty gay really.

>>211569900
Sure, I get what you're saying.
Ultimately, I think the conclusion we can both agree on is that more shows need to tell the binge model to fuck off. Even if those shows are only 6/10s, they'll be a more enjoyable and novel experience than 8/10s with the binge model

Zoomers will never understand what it was like getting to go to blockbuster. We had one right around the corner from where I lived, didn't even need to drive there, my friends and I rode our bikes to blockbuster to get N64 and PS1 games and whatever new VHS was out to watch on the weekend, some candy and popcorn too. We rented Aliens over and over again, that was one of my favorite movies to watch with my friends.

I still have gamecube games I bought from blockbuster too, they used to have a large bin they kept near the front of the store, by the time the 6th gen consoles were coming out they put most of the N64 games in there for discount prices, I picked up Mario Party 2, Mario Tennis, Mario Kart, Goldeneye and many more games through that bin.

The only thing that sucked is my gamecube games came in generic blockbuster cases since you didn't get the original ones when you bought the used ones from there. Pic related metroid prime. So many great movies and games I would have never otherwise played I played because of Blockbuster.

>>211568305
Gen X just bought into manufactured anti-corporatism. lmao.
Millennials in the late 90's through early 00's internet era were the ones who finally did manage to "do it for themselves", until it all got fucking bulldozed.
People need to start making webcomics again.

>>211565876
You know nothing.

Something is COMFY in renting a movie friday night, calling in a pizza over the phone, messaging your friends on AIM before setting your away message, watching new things on TV because you had no choice other than what's on, waking up Saturday to cartoons before going outside to play and ride around.

You can do that stuff now, but back then, it was all we had.

>>211570061
I'm not even sure if the binge model is more profitable. It seems like they have to pump out new shows constantly and through them onto the heap. Meanwhile, with a seasonal weekly show, you have 12 weeks blocked out. I'm not sure how to convert to compare to old school TV though. Netflix is not quite blockbuster and not quite cable television. I wonder how many weekly airing shows they'd have to produced each season to make it work. Maybe that's half the reason they just irregularly plop some more slop onto the heap; they don't have to think about actually programming that way.

>>211568516
I heard this exact conversation in the airport recently. I think it ended with "Did you watch Dexter?" "I did watch Dexter" "Cool"

Maybe it's cause I was born in 1991 but I just do not miss renting games at all. Hell, I don't miss when the games I could play were at the whims of my parents.

The only thing I sort of miss is when I bought a game and I'd be reading its manual on the way back home. Games don't even have proper manuals nowadays. On every other aspect, I think zoomers have it better than us.

>>211568516
>>211570276
I asked my colleagues, who were busy mid-listing shows, why they liked something and the question genuinely stumped them. It wasn't a trick question. I feel like some people are terrified to say why they liked something.

>>211570242
>be lil jimmy
>it's a bro's birthday
>a bunch of us go to his house for a sleepover
>everyone brings an N64 controller
>the dad forces us to go outside, touch grass, and play sports for a couple hours
>sun starting to go down
>takes us to blockbuster
>it's basically a candy shop but for media
>rent a vidya and a movie
>get home and order pizza
>watch the movie
>then go and play vidya for hours until kids pass out at like 3am

>>211566255
Then why did ticket master grow so large and integrate into live nation? Grunge bands all sold out eventually

>>211570245
Netflix is just kind of this really odd ideological company. I'm not referring to culture war shit here. I mean they have an ideology of how stuff works and they stick by it and influence everything else.

The main Netflix guy didn't like going to the cinema and watched stuff at home. Cinema has dropped as a result.

He hated having to wait for episodes week to week. Binge became a thing. Serialized content is sparser than ever.

He just kind of created his utopia and forced us to live on it. Which I respect to some extent, but I think shit is by and large less soulful nowadays even if the theotetical quality is better.

>>211570411
The answer is usually they didn't even think about if they liked it at all let alone why they liked it.

>>211570304
>The only thing I sort of miss is when I bought a game and I'd be reading its manual on the way back home. Games don't even have proper manuals nowadays.

I remember getting stuff like Simcity that had pretty thick manuals and getting hyped on the ride home then suffering through the installation process and praying it actually installed and ran correctly. Added some drama and suspense, and when you couldn't play the game you could still read about it.

>>211570411
You watch the new thing to "keep up", not because it's good.
I've had this conversation with my dad, and he will basically say "no, it's not any good, but it's the new season!".

>>211569274
>But putting up with the infiltration of sports gambling is becoming close to insufferable
QRD, anon? I've never been much of a sports guy other than for soccer during Euro and World Cup to represent my country, but I heard about this before in passing and I'm curious how it managed to affect people's enjoyment in watching sports.

>>211570478
Sounds like he's basically like Musk but we don't see him tweet 24/7 so we don't get that further insight into how weird he is and just have to infer with his business choices. I bet there is a surprisingly high number of successful businessmen who make their decisions in a similar manner and we are just left with the consequences and because we don't experience things otherwise we don't know to question them like we can do with streaming practices.

>>211570163
millenials are literally the most retarded generation to ever exist in the history of humanity. Get real you coping retard.

>>211570439
Lobbying. It's not hard to understand. Those guys tried to do something nice for fans the way Fugazi did and asked the government to apply anti-trust law to entertainment ticket sales. The government did the opposite with dereg.

I just hate how streaming shows have completely unsatisfying editing and each individual episode feels like nothing. Because a 6-8 episode limited series began life as a 2 hour film screenplay stretched out beyond all recognition. And then to top it off a show will get 1-3 seasons before being cancelled anyway, even if you do like it. Sometimes it feels like the unsatisfying nature of media is almost an attempt to get you uncomfortably hooked like some addict because there is always new thing.

>>211570700
Sports betting was legalized in a bunch of states and has started to completely consume sports coverage. From the advertisements that air, to the talking head sports shows that are just about betting, to just how sports are talked about through the lens of betting terms. It's all gambla all the time.

>>211570870
What's the worst examples you can think of that, though? As an Yuro that hasn't been affected by this, I can't picture anything too harsh.

>>211570771
zoomer moment

>>211565173 (OP)
Funny to see how people's childhoods are now themed costumes. I was there, but barely old enough to see this old world die right in front of me.

>>211570870
My favourite is how in the UK we get loads of gambling awareness adverts, gamble responsibly. Even though the industry knows it relies on addicts and whales, it presents this image of being loads of little small bets. Football teams connections with gambling companies has gone up massively as have the adverts.

>>211569030
based successionbro

>>211570950
Not him but I believe the only reason anyone talks about the WNBA is because of sports betting being legalized

>>211570133
Metroid Prime is still one of my favorite games of all time. I hope 4 isn't a disappointment.

>>211570991
lol
>>211568516
>are you watching [british crime procedural]?
>no im watching [british crime procedural]
>IT'S THE DUMBEST SHOW EVER AND THAT'S WHY I LOVE IT

>>211570771
You only like Gen Xers because they're your dad.

>>211570950
It's a little hard to explain since yuros just watch soccer and they just have adds on the field and uniforms and not a lot of natural breaks in gameplay itself. But imagine when watching a sport, any commercial break is half sports betting websites. The announcers bring up sports betting sponsors during a lull in the action. Almost like pop up styles ads for sports betting split screen style when the ball goes out of bounds and you are waiting to inbound it again. Then imagine you are really into sports, so you watch some talking heads on TV in a panel show and segments start becoming thinly veiled ads for online sports betting sites. "Oi m8 it looks like there is 2-1 odds for Mgunda to score a goal next match what do you think of that?" And so you say fuck it, I'm never watching a sports talk TV show, I'll just watch some true sports nerds on youtube breakdown the Xs and Os and now he starts every video with a 90 second add for sportsballbetting.com.

>>211565776
b-but we are fighting against the system dude!!

>>211571331
You're forgetting that these sport betting sites also track the FUCK out of you to make you more addicted to gambling

>>211570794
regulation is...le good

>>211565173 (OP)
I was born in the 80s and grew up in the 90s and I definitely don't remember people dressing as stupid as zoomers like to think. The style was definitely baggy, but zoomer girls are literally wearing circus tent pants thinking it's 90s fashion.

I'm a millennial (Though born in 93 so barely) and I think we should take responsibility for this shit even if only collectively
This remakeslop, nostalgiaslop and shit like Ready Player One is nearly entirely on us. We've done good things too, like give John Carpenter the respect he deserved and didn't get, or Blade Runner. But yeah. We have done a lot of damage. Capeshit is also nearly half our doing.

>>211571331
>The announcers bring up sports betting sponsors during a lull in the action.
>some talking heads on TV in a panel show and segments start becoming thinly veiled ads for online sports betting sites. "Oi m8 it looks like there is 2-1 odds for Mgunda to score a goal next match what do you think of that?"
Jesus Christ, that IS horrifying. Grim.

>>211571453
I read recently that those apps literally ban you if you start doing too well, too. What a fucking scam.

>>211571453
I've never partaken but yes I assume they are highly predatorial and addictive. There's a reason we used to protect people from becoming a victim to gambling addictions.

>>211571306
millennial are the reason this thread exists because you fucking morons destroyed all these franchises everyone is nostalgic about, you destroyed everything because you are the most worthless sack of shit, retarded generation to ever exist

>>211568683
Having to watch court TV and daytime talk shows reminds me to never be nostalgic for network tv.

>>211571643
Franchises can't be destroyed. The old movies are still there.

I have a different argument on why we're bad (I'm >>211571480). We don't want new shit and just want to keep recycling the same properties over and over. Whether those movies are good or not is irrelevant. That kind of endless memberberries iteration is the death of art.

>>211565173 (OP)
fashion since at least the 80s has been trash, I don't think anyone wants a comeback of 90s fashion, only 00s fashion is worse

>>211571576
>I read recently that those apps literally ban you if you start doing too well, too. What a fucking scam.
Any real casino can ban or "back you off" if you start doing too good as well. It is complete horseshit but even if they kick someone out or block them from the site, there's always a new bettor coming in the door

>>211571480
It's because of >>211568343
We were the first generation where special effects made it seem like anything was possible with adapting previously unadaptable works and the initial stuff done was done by people who where experts in their craft and gave a shit. And then somewhere along the line the quality crashed and soiboys forgot why they were excited for next product in the first place.

>>211571790
>I don't think anyone wants a comeback of 90s fashion
It was a mostly ugly period of fashion with a few highlights. I don't miss it

>>211571805
But at least with casinos you're there on a visit by visit basis. Feels way scummier for an ongoing website, if that makes sense.

>>211571724
I think every medium falls into this. All the good creative stuff gets made and that after a certain time it peaks and all that is left is remixes and subversions of the old stuff. Thankfully the back catalog of novels, 4 minute music singles, and now kinos is long enough to last a lifetime that you don't need new stuff to come out for these mediums.

>>211565776
Sellout punk bands are more corporate than grunge and they are the one that being vocal about anti capitalism and such. All independent label.ended up being corposlop

>>211565776
do the evolution is a faggot video too btw

>>211571209
and I would have never played it if I didn't get it at blockbuster man. I hope prime 4 isn't bad either, I'm hoping they remaster echoes and corruption like they did with prime too eventually.

Why do zoomers obsess over Blockbuster, as if that was the only video store to ever exist?

>>211571918
I don't buy it, anon. Not for a second. We haven't run out of good stuff. Inspiraion is endless, our zeitgeist is way different and ready for different stuff. No. This is simply corporate greed making safe bets that prey on nostalgia and retards keep falling for it and funding it. Hopefully one day this shit will fully be over. It kind of feels like it's already getting there. The Indiana Jones sequel completely flopped. Marvel is struggling to get two successes in a row when a decade ago they'd have 10 easy successes in a row barely trying. When the pendulum shifts, I think movies will become much better than they have been lately. If you go look at the history of cinema, it has had some cycles similae to these already.

>>211572060
>implying you can have a generation obsess over a local one off video rental store

>>211572060
I liked Movie Gallery a lot more

More stuff in stock and cheaper

>>211572112
>If you go look at the history of cinema, it has had some cycles similae to these already.
I agree

You could make the argument that action movies from the mid 80s to the mid 90s were kind of the same deal, although they were arguably better in nearly every regard than modern slop

>>211572112
>cycles nonsense
Cinema hasn't been around that long. There's nothing that says it has to run forever and that there is no peak.

>>211571643
>all of the major corporations are run by people who are like 50, at an absolute minimum
When Millennials were given free reign to create, they created Newgrounds, 4chan, and early Youtube. That's what I consider to be the Millennial cultural expression, if anything.
Gen X just sat around watching TV and masturbating.

>>211571724
this is why I called that coping moron a coping moron. there isnt a single original thing millenials are known for having created and this moron is talking about "doing it ourselves" the funniest shit I have read here in a long time. Millenials never did jack shit

>>211565293
39 here but I just got a gf 8yrs younger than me and she's a smoke show. No kids and no tattoos. WAGMI bros! if I can do it, you can too. I've been here for so long (18yrs)and have been talking to at least some of you that long. Love you guys, drink plenty of water and stay physically active, life shouldn't be squandered. Go smash king

>>211572316
But muh zines

>>211572316
these are all Gen X products thoughbeit, Gen Y was the audience

>>211572426
Literally no. Half of the people making stuff back then were like 12.

>>211572476
make this fat dick jizz in your jizzaws faggot

>>211572426
>these are all Gen X products thoughbeit
You think people born in '65-'80 were the primary content producers on those sites? That's not the impression I ever got.

>>211573158
all the woke faggotry? yah me either

>>211573158
>a generation is 15 years
>people get married and have kids at age 15
Gen X is born '60-'79 and yes, they were the primary creators in the arts generally until maybe the mumblecore trope of which the younger half were a huge part.

>inb4 some fag links to Pew Research's generational cohort delineation which makes no fucking sense at all but you retards just take it on faith because you're too fucking stupid to think

>>211573273
>being this pedantic
I deliberately clipped the beginning of the generational window because I was expecting someone to bitch about the idea that genx could possibly start that early. I guess you're damned if you do and damned if you don't.

>>211565173 (OP)
I saw kids reminiscing about fucking 2012 the other day so it appears everyones childhood was the greatest time in human history

9/11 was the shit, I was in school, and the teacher brough that tv on a cart so we could watch the second plane crash live on fucking tv. we were all laughing and having fun, since we skipped a whole hour of class watching this stupid shit.

>>211565173 (OP)
I went to this, my girlfriend dragged me to it on her birthday. It was kinda fun and a cheap entry.

>>211565173 (OP)
what did the museum do? just buy out a goodwill?

>>211574129
>lcd tv
>1990s
You know what to do

>>211566956
that's the worst possible example...

>>211565776
thats was (((clinton))) and the 1996 telecommunications act

WHOA NOSTALGIA BLAST

>>211574186
I do: I tossed a full can of Surge at it on our way out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCiDuy4mrWU

>>211565776
Pearl Jam is good fuck off faggot.
>UP HERE IN MY TREEEE

>>211566498
yes, Samson pushing down the two pillars and all that

>>211566656
This is correct. There have been other inflection points in U.S. history but 9/11 and the Great Recession dropped the U.S. to lower than it ever has been and COVID and the response to it is a direct result of a more deranged and broken country which after COVID is now even MORE broken.

>>211574253
For me, it's josta

>>211566656
>>211567385
The real reason why the world of early 2000's and today feel so different. There was the thread the other day about old Comedy Central I decided to bing a bunch of old stand up shows. I realized there were no tranny jokes, since they basicly didn't exist in the early 2000's.

>>211575488
Sorry I ment to post this image

>>211565173 (OP)
>>211568093
Isn't liking stuff from the 90s considered "fascist" now? You're assumed to be a nazi chud if you like anything before 2015

>>211566255
Pearl Jam and most of the grunge bands used to be based in the 90s, but then they became sellouts like every other popular band

>>211573273
can literally point to a dozen creators I used to follow, and they are very much men who are around my age, and not in their 50's. Maybe a couple of the real old ones are on the younger side of Gen X. James Rolfe? that barely counts.

>>211575488
I grew up watching Just for Laughs Stand up on tv like all day after school as it was on ALL the fucking time. Stand up was actually good back then. It was cringey sure, like most of it was aimed at older people and couples who were conservative-light.

Patrice Oniel was on there at one point. So was Rich Voss. Colin Quinn, etc.

Montreal in the 90s and early 2000s was peak inoffensive but funny comedy. Canada had a really good vibe back then. Red Green show. This Hour has 22 Minutes. Kids in the Hall. Bob and Doug.

It all went to shit. When the Progs got a hold of Canada in like 2005, it was all killed. All of it. Montreal is a shell of it's former self. Comedy must be political or silent.

>>211572362
Right on, anon. Right on.

>>211565173 (OP)
Yeah, in the 80s corpos of all kinds started scaling topics and media down to a science, so then in the 90s people started to notice and ask why. That's when things started crumbling for independence and more variety.
We could have been NPCs way sooner if it wasn't for that 90s reset

>>211565776
Creed and Nickelback are fucking kino you idiot

>>211575915
Thanks bro, I hope things are going well in your life too.

>>211569030
>Succession
The last time /tv/ had somewhat intelligent discussions

I made $200 betting on the new CEO thanks to leaks, would have made more but the max bet was $50

>>211565173 (OP)
90s nostalgia just seem so lame and forced, always about unironically consuming product memberberries, which will be a thing for any generation. And then you watch one nostalgia video you instantly get recommended an onslaught of middle aged women talking about how crazy the 99s were because they had stuff like folders with cartoon characters on it

>>211576592
based fellow TomChad

>>211572362
good for bro, my life is at its best this year too and im 30, gonna have a kid soon

>>211576765
Congrats!

>>211571209
i dont know why but it reminds me of halo 4

>>211572060
Be real with yourself anon; do all those stuffy, hot, unventilated one-room video rental spots really deserve to be remembered? There was one in my town that only closed in 2017. The only good thing about those places was the large selection of horror VHS.

>>211565173 (OP)
>You now manually realize that the 90s are to 2025 what the 60s were to 1995. Millennials are now Austin Powers level of out of touch irrelevant boomer cringe.
>>211576630
All nostalgia is consoom product memberberries. There has been no real culture save for mass produced consumer culture since the 80s and arguably before.

>>211577735
>You now manually realize that the 90s are to 2025 what the 60s were to 1995
Not really, because in hindsight the 60s and 90s may as well have been the same decade compared to the pozzed shit we have now.

>>211565776
Grunge sucks balls and 80s metal was better but the whole grunge thing was meant to be anti-corporate and came about as a response to how corporate rock had become.

>>211572362
Wow, 8yrs younger? That's like 31 bro! Barely past that wall! Still fresh! What's her body count?

>>211568093

>>211565173 (OP)
Has anyone analysed Episode One as a specifically 90's movie, I guess I mean in a more sociological context?

>>211575567
No, it's considered lame. Glad I could clarify.

>>211577686
Some of them might have been small but not all of them were. And yes, I had much more memorable experiences with them.