>Gobleki Tepe
>Therefore, all science and history is fake

>>211575799 (OP)
The ironic part is that Gobekli Tepe actually hurts this retard’s argument. It’s primitive as shit.

GO DIBBLE!
GO DIBBLE!

>>211575799 (OP)
All the real shit is probably under the Persian gulf

>>211576058
It's hilarious how much he makes Rogan seethe

>>211575799 (OP)
Problem?

gobekli tepe is unironically one of the greatest historic discoveries in the last century and it proves civilization is older than we though at the very least, probably goes back 12k BC, earliest buildings were around then or maybe even older, early agriculture aswell

why do rightoid chuds feel the need to jump on literally every grift that claims to "BTFO the mainstream libs" ?

>>211575836
>It’s primitive as shit.
To an extent but it's still more impressive than some stuff that we found thousands of years later. I mean honestly I've never even watched anything by this guy but Tepe alone is bizarre because the current standard is a bunch of random nomads just built that and only hung out there every so often. Like all historical narrative is tied to what they can dig out of the ground

>>211577395
graham hancocks theory has nothing to do with right vs left its just a theory that big archaeology disagrees with and refuses to even give the time of day, you made it political cause you're obsessed

>>211575799 (OP)
>"NAZI INCEL CHUDDDDSSSS HUMANS CAME FROM AFRICA AND NO CIVILIZATION EXISTED BEFORE EGYPT AND SUMARIA!!!"
>gobekli tepi and hominine skulls found in europe dated before african ones

>>211577441
you are beyond delusional if you believe that, this particular grift is solely occupied by rightoids, just as literally every other one that gets promoted on jose rogan
these retards jump on LITERALLY ANYTHING that makes them feel smarter than the mainstream libs

>>211575799 (OP)
The science is settled, now shut up

>>211577556
Why do leftists claim to be progressive when they're the most dogmatic, close-minded people in the world? A hundred years ago, Egypt was considered the oldest civilization. Then we discovered Sumer and that added a whole extra chapter to history. Why are you so adverse to that happening again? This anti-intellectualism is downright communistic

>>211577556
numerous people like hancocks theories from all walks of life and his critics are all over aswell including on 4chan's largely conservative base, youre stuck on your chud boogeyman theory and you're connecting everything you can to it

>>211575799 (OP)
>oh whats that? you haven't searched every inch of the earth? well then it's entirely possible that telepathic superhuman giants from atlantis built the pyramids.
Checkmate, Dribble.

>>211578017
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purity_spiral

>>211578017
>people discovered archeological evidence and thus changed their views
>some grifter tells you ATLANTIS WAS REAL BRO with 0 evidence
>look bro its basically the same thing
maybe i should buy his books and it becomes real in my mind too?

>>211577556
Why do leftshits need to politicize everything into "woke vs. LITERAL NAZIS"?
Woke is literally a mind-virus.

>>211578366
>seething this hard because someone called-out your eternal presentism

>>211578436
>called-out
uhh ranjesh?

>>211575836
>It’s primitive as shit.
Compared to WHAT? The entire point is that it's less primitive than anything dated to the same time-period.

>>211578370
im not a leftist, ive been called a "nazi" for like 25 years, i just distanced myself from the popular rightoid sphere because it got infested with brownoids, zoomers and other subhumans post trump, and now its jumping on the train of anti-intellectualism and willing to just eat up any fucking grifter's bullshit for the sole reason to "own le libs"

>>211578464
Why are retards on this site so endlessly obsessed with Indians?

>look at gerbinkle tinkle they got the zodiac! and the constellations! incredible knowledge!
>uh those are just carvings of animals and stars, how do they represent the zodiac, which changed between cultures and time periods up until like the classical period? those stars don't appear to be anything, nor are they arranged in any astronomically significant way
>I'm being silenced!!!!!!!!!!!

>>211577395
Majority of them finds out what the mainstream is precisely in these threads. Archeology, prehistory and ancient civilizations are not so popular subjects I think. For example, my dad is pretty lib, but he loves paleocontact things.

>>211578472
Exactly. Which proves there was no “advanced civilization” at the time.

>it's proof of an advanced civilization because uhhhhh they left some rocks behind

>Egyptians couldn't have figured out how to use skilled laborers to build the pyramids, they were taught by an ancient civilization who figured out how to use skilled laborers to build the pyramids

Gobleki Tepe still only moves the needle back like 2000 years

Why does mister dibble make these threads?

>>211579431
flint is quite literally an old-school fedora wearing redditor, he would never even dare to open this website

>>211575799 (OP)
>30 years working on this shit
>still has no theory
>hasn't progressed beyond hypothesis
lol.
lmao.
>>211577441
He has no theory.
That's why scientists don't give him the time of day. He has brought nothing to the table for them to work with.

Hancock thinks every politician should have to take 10 ayahuasca trips before running for office kek I'm not joking he said it on one of his JRE podcasts with Randall Carlson I think

>>211579431
Guaranteed replies

>>211575799 (OP)
Yes

>>211575799 (OP)
>did i fucking stutter?

>the aztecs........... found a way to atlantis

>>211575799 (OP)
>Therefore, all science and history is fake
and gay? yes, yes it is.

>>211575799 (OP)
Uh they just used to stretch out their babies skulls my dude!

>>211577437
yes, but their art skills were basic tier

>YOUNGER DRY ASS PERIOD

>>211575799 (OP)
personally I think all science as "current working theory" but do not throw out any hypothesis; in the end it is me who choose what ot use; did not get vaxed

>>211575799 (OP)
For me it’s normal geological formations that he says are an ancient 100k year old preserved road underwater

>>211583327
same, that's how science is supposed to operate
it should be open minded, curious, use logic to evaluate claims and evidence
there should be no dogma or entrenched ideas, that is when it becomes a belief system like religion with white lab coats instead of white robes

>graham sissies immediately paint his only opposition as a disheveled, fedora-wearing redditor
>ignores chad Rossi, who visits sites to explain everything
>has a colonial house that he restores with his trad wife
>is young indiana jones
>btfos cryptoarcheology

academics in all fields have been captured by faggotry for decades and are proven wrong and retarded time and time again. why should archaeology be any different?

>>211585471
>time and time again
name 3

>>211585638
race and iq
nutrition
the holocaust

>>211575799 (OP)
he is correct but also a coward.
Archeology is the way it is because it all hinges on "society" and science being hardcoded to the out of africa theory.

EVERYONE in science knows that out of africa is fake, they know niggers, asians and white people evolved at different times in different places. they found complex animal statues as parting gifts in central european graves that are dated 40 000+ B.C. they know caucasians are not from africa

Why does it always have to be aliens or advanced prehistoric hypercivilisations?
Can't some people just accept that humans are pretty inventive and able to achieve impressive feats? History and archeology is interesting enough without aliens.

>>211577556
>this particular grift is solely occupied by rightoids
This is because the mainstream is incredibly narrow minded and bizarrely dogmatic about stuff that you wouldn't even think should be political yet they make it so and say that anyone who disagrees with their analysis of archeology or radio frequencies or whatever is a far right nazi russian shill.

Dibbles father was one of the main nazis who was employed by the U.S. to destroy history. He was an archaeologist of the old world, not up to date with contemprorary science like Graham. That's where Flint went wrong imo. He just didn't have enough up to date expert knowledge as Graham and resorted to ad hominems.

>>211585747
>theyre being dogmatic
>by dismissing some grifter who claims that atlantis was real and atlanteans taught the entire globe agriculture and construction
>his evidence you might ask? well some of those rocks under water kind of look manmade haha
>also, have archeologists looked everywhere on the planet to prove that atlantis wasnt real?
yeah this fucking religious cult of archeology is keeping a free thinker down

>unfortunately, everything we excavate that can be dated to the paleolithic only reveals primitive stone tools
>DID YOU DIG EVERYWHERE?

>>211575799 (OP)
this man and his santa looking buddy got absolutely destroyed by a contrarian on Joe Rogan asking the most simplest questions on Grahams line of thought, proposals and theories. Graham spergs like an autist just accusing everyone of not being able to accept his framing of archeology. Absolute grifter

>>211577348
>12k BC
thats not that long ago

>>211585720
>caucasians arent from africa
thats just as much of an ass pull as out of Africa theory. You don't know that. Likely, china holds the key to whether proto europeans traversed north Africa, Asia etc. Id wager China has pyramids confirming it

>>211586139
>a fraction of a percent is representative

what the FUCK is Gobekli Tepe??? can someone answer me?

>>211576058
This guy is based for absolutely mind-breaking both Hancock and Rogan. They are both seething and lying about that debate to this day.

>>211586178
... because out of africa says that 40 000 years ago the first neanderthals migrated to central europe while actual found artifacts are already older than that and the skeletons are modern day caucasians and not neanderthals
one of these famous graves is the lion human from Lonetal (Löwenmensch) whose age is minimum 40k b.c and maximum 75k b.c.

thats 35 THOUSAND years earlier than out of africa. and everyone in science knows this

>>211586251
thats bc its a hominid war that continues to this day, mankind has always been two warring hominids. One is obfuscating truth

>>211586200
>there was a global, megalithic supercivilizion
>we can't find it, even though we can find something as small as a flint arrowhead

>>211586282
it does give credence the cataclysm theory, that mankind is very old, but we've had multiple cataclysms, most recent being a flood 11-12k years ago. Some say it can be predicted with pole shifts, Abrahamics will say God promised not to do it again. But the circumstantial evidence remains, we may be a lot older then presumed

>>211586276
or, and hear me out on this one, its literally that simple:
they are all cowards and are afraid of being racist and "letting the nazis/chuds win by agreeing with them"

>>211575799 (OP)
>Graham Hancock makes normie cucks like me seethe
>therefore I spam strawmans of his work on 4chan

Why do rightcels seethe that science can only make definitive claims about what we have evidence for and can't just accept speculation as fact?
>but academicucks were wrong before!
And they were PROVEN wrong, you gorilla nigger.

>>211586250
>They are both seething and lying about that debate to this day.
Not sure who that is but the skeptics are the real liars and it has been proven time and again, by Hancock on his YouTube channel among others.

>>211575836
>>211577437
>>211583271
>>211578472
>>211578917
Reminder that only 10% of Gobekli Tepe has been excavated and mainstream institutions are actively working against people who would want to excavate more of it.

>>211586315
no ive gone down this route of phrenology and the race research of the 20s and 30s. Its jews and an amalgamation of elite beliefs of original races and origins. What you're inching towards, whether you realize it or not is Aryan reproduction from electricity, as schizo as it sounds, that's where you'll end up

>>211585720
>they found complex animal statues as parting gifts in central european graves that are dated 40 000+ B.C. they know caucasians are not from africa
They’re called Neanderthals

>>211586397
More lies from the out of Africa hoax.

>>211586372
I am neither talking about phrenology nor "aryans".

saying that white people didn't evolve in africa and migrate to europe 40k years ago is just "nazi" coded.

>>211586397
the corpses on Liontal and others are not Neandeethals. they are Homo Sapiens Sapiens

>>211575799 (OP)
yes, cope and seethe tranny

>>211586370
The trees were planted precisely to fight soil erosion damaging the site, and we already know enough about Globeki Tepi that we don't have to literally excavate every inch around the site. What do you think the conspiracy here is, that they're hiding the star gate just to the left of the stone age settlement?

>>211577556
projection of these levels is generally a sign of mental illness

you are a clueless mouth breather. probably failed out of middle school. keep your trap closed

>>211586460
well im at loss for what a white person is then in your theory. The underlying belief is the current races on earth are not the original races except Aryans (maybe another I forget the shit). Point is, if you're willing to go a route and trace that race to be untouched to today, you will effectually end up a nazi, and not in the meme term, the literal esoteric origin of man term. So again, you really cant dance around this topic without entering the race research that was prominent in the 30s

uh oh melty

>>211586484
>we already know enough, goy. The science is settled, shut it down.

>>211586484
>soil erosion damaging the site
Just excavate it and there won't be any.
>we already know enough about Globeki Tepi that we don't have to literally excavate every inch around the site
We don't know what we haven't seen.
>What do you think the conspiracy here is
That they're trying their hardest to downplay the complexity and size of the site, planting trees and letting the majority of people think what's been excavated is all there is. It's a generational coverup to avoid hard questions about how fucked the mainstream archeology timeline really is.

>>211586557
They know it was a complex area that was used a place to stay that was made by nomadic people. There's carved out living spaces near by.

>>211586602
>"nomads" that built permanent stone housing
Do you see why they want to keep it covered up yet?

>>211577395
These are the same women who would shit on Hollywood for being a corrupting force on women.

>>211577556
kek you're mindbroken

brownoids cant stop seething because the irrefutable proof is finally coming out that aryans created ever advanced civilization on this planet since the beginning of time (which isnt a surprise to white people as if you look at the world today, why would the past be any different). everywhere we go they follow until we decade it has become a shithole and move on, followed quickly by decay and ruin (see south africa for the most recent example). If whites had simply walled themselves off fromt he rest of the world, everywhere but the white areas would still be in the stone age while whites were walking on the moon

>>211585657
>race and iq
>nutritio
>the holocaust
What is wrong with those?

>>211586637
Makes sense if you're gonna be living in an area for the season with your flock of grazing animals. There's no evidence of agriculture going on in the region at that time.

>>211576058
He looks like he fucks kids

>>211586637
covered what up

>>211586694
Nomads don't build permanent housing, they use things that can be moved with them.
>There's no evidence of agriculture going on in the region at that time.
There's no evidence of agriculture going on in the topsoil that buried the site, but they keep refusing to excavate more of the site and dig further down.

>>211586680
>see south africa for the most recent example
(see egypt and india for ancient examples)

>>211586715
Why they want to keep 90% of Gobekli Tepe covered up instead of excavating it and showing the world evidence that obviously contradicts the idea that it was built by roving nomads, such as permanent stone housing.

>>211586765
and what's the big bomb shell here
that there were agrarian societies earlier than noted before?
so what

wake up sheeple

>>211586680
>the irrefutable proof is finally coming out that aryans created ever advanced civilization on this planet since the beginning of time
as the Nazis always knew and were destroyed for exposing (along with exposing jewish power and schemes and attempting to destroy their banking empire)

>>211586783
>that there were agrarian societies earlier than noted before?
Yes.
>so what
Ask the archeologists, they're the ones who fight tooth and nail against the idea as if it were religious heresy.

>>211586744
>Nomads don't build permanent housing
They lived in an area full or hills and rock so building outcrops to live in wouldn't out of the ordinary. There's many sites all over the Europe of people making carved out underground dwellings for people to live in.

>>211586823
youve never read Helen, imposter

>>211586765
>such as permanent stone housing
You can be nomadic and build permanent structures to live in especially if they're carved right into the land itself. If you move around a place full or hills and rock like Turkey, why not created multiple places for people to live in while following your herd?

>>211586923
bitch I am bodhi mantra, the only reason any of you fools here know anything about any of this shit is because I have been spoonfeeding it to your for the last decade,

dibblesisters…

>>211583280
LOL

>>211575799 (OP)
Unironically true and the reason he will be remembered as a Galileo of the 21st century. It's obvious humanity is much older than modern science and history says and that we've been through previous civilization cycles before.

>>211586836
>>211586935
Show me some examples of people we know for a fact to be nomadic who built permanent stone housing.

>>211586954
based af

>>211585882
>>211585747
lol yup that right there...

gotta'love rightoids. they bitch and moan about the jew libs holding back white supremacy and then... suddenly... "WHY DO YOU GUYS MAKE EVERYTHING POLITICAL"

lol. whole reason this nobody is known is 'cause of joe rogan. joe rogan is 100% pure mainstream jew politics

can't have your cake and eat it too.

>>211586484
>they're hiding the star gate just to the left of the stone age settlement
yes

>>211575799 (OP)
Gobleki Tepe
>uh... Giga...
Therefore, all science and history is fake
>that's uh... not how science... uhh is supposed to work... I think... um...

>>211575799 (OP)
Bought a few of his books, fun reads so far. And fuck Flint Dribble, little weirdo is still emailing Joe Rogan to let him back on. Not in this life!

>bragging about getting grifted
lol

>>211586680
>aryans created ever advanced civilization on this planet since the beginning of time
this is also why they cry about "oppression" and say white nations "were built on black and brown bodies" (as the Utah shooter who is part of 50/50/1 calimed) which is true in a sense, but there is nothing malicious about it, browns simply cant compete with whites to reach the higher echelons of white societies relegating them to the status of laborers, which they undertstandibly resent

>>211586999
The Bedouins of Jordan used carved out dwellings during certain seasons along with the village of Maymand in Iran hosting a carved out dwelling used by herders during the winter months. It's almost like humans and living in an opening that goes deep into the hill or mountain has some connected history or something.

>>211577441
Hancocks theories aren't even his own. They're 19th century ideas from when Europeans empires were global and could for the first time actually compare cultural artifacts and stories between societies that either had never had any contact or hadn't for thousands of years. Turns out there's a lot of similarities and some people speculated it was from a shared cultural heritage in prehistory rather than independent development which is basically the only way modern archaeology and anthropology can explain similarities between New and Old World cultures given the level of separation. Hancocks theory has to do a million "yeah but what if" to work given modern data on migration and dated material findings. It's like the Lamarkian evolution theory of history, archeology, anthropology, etc.

>>211587154
>which they undertstandibly resen
but not enough to stay int heir shitholes obviously. They cant help but see the prosperity whites produce so must always follow us looking for gibs until destroy everything we built and we simply move on to another part of the world. One could say the totality of history for aryan peoples is simply constant movement to escape the brown hordes

>>211576058
king

>>211587046
it'd be pretty cool if all the Heaven stuff is real and we get invaded by Angels pre-Apocalypse

>>211575799 (OP)
>The Society for American Archaeology sent a long letter asking Netflix to either remove Hancock's show or reclassify it as Science Fiction.
>Netflix declined.
Get fucked retards.

>>211587200
>Most of the Bedouin tribes migrated from the Arabian Peninsula to what is Jordan today between the 14th and 18th centuries.
>Some Bedouin in Jordan are semi-nomads, they adopt a nomadic existence during part of the year but return to their lands and homes in time to practice agriculture.
Great example, anon. Semi-nomads who establish permanent housing specifically for practicing agriculture.

>>211576058
>>211587282
he looks like a physiological combo of Vaush and Paul Stamets

>>211576058
>>211587282
he looks like a physiognomical combo of Vaush and Paul Stamets

>>211587038

>>211586484
>already know enough about Globeki Tepi that we don't have to literally excavate every inch around the site
Are you high? This statement contradicts itself

>>211587297
No shit, Graham's son is the senior manager over those shows

What's even the point of obsessing over Gobekli? There are other structures found, with evidence of farming, about as old as that site. The difference is there's no evidence of farming found there yet and Graham is losing his mind over it

>>211587297
What are archeologists so afraid of?

>>211587740
Unfettered retardation

>>211587781
Why is it that science defenders always go on about how the evidence speaks for itself and everything can be proven or disproven, but then also live in constant terror of people questioning anything and not strictly adhering to whatever dogma has been established? Science is all about asking questions, isn't it? Scientists love to be disproven, don't they? It seems like they say one thing and do quite the opposite.

>>211587856
Imagine you were surrounded by the dumbest people in the world who were so intesnely confident about their incorrect beliefs even when you show them all the evidence and proof you can of their falsity.

>>211587952
>the dumbest people in the world who were so intesnely confident about their incorrect beliefs even when you show them all the evidence and proof you can of their falsity.
So... archeologists?

>>211587856
But none of the questions Hancock asks are new. He's part of a group of people that the general scientific community has dealt with regularly for over a century. Every so often theyre allowed to be in the spot light so other people can ask them questions to see if they've come up with anything new. It's almost always the same shit being repeated and the same "Why are you guys being so mean? I'm just asking questions?" as if they thought nobody would present any arguments or data that contradiction their claims or that this is somehow an unprovoked personal attack.

>>211587856
You can ask questions of educators and they will be glad to help. That’s not what this guy does, he tricks people. Plenty of people do that as a grift or it might even have a larger more insidious goal. If you genuinely believe archaeology is a cult but not Graham Hancock you’re just the exact casualty that they’re trying to prevent.

I don’t think scientists believe that evidence will fully convince everyone on earth of scientific truths, either.

>>211575799 (OP)
>you can't prove the ancients didn't use telepathy and chanting to build with megalithic stones
>therefore they did

>>211579415
6000. It's as far from Sumer as Sumer is from us.

>>211586209
An ancient site dating to 12k years ago found under an artifical hill in Turkey. It has stone statues, carvings, and artifacts that don't line up with the current accepted historical timeline.

>>211587996
No. They tend to update their worldview as new evidence is presented.

>>211586372
tell me about aryan reproduction from electricity

>>211588356
The current timeline includes Gobekli Tepe, thiug

>>211586169
Of course, it's not 200k ago, the problem is the 'scientific concensus' tp make even that small of a compromise given how probable it is all things considered

>>211588023
He's only in the spot light because Joe Rogan being more popular than him and being a retard who believes in conspiracy bullshit this guy spews and brings him on along with other idiots that would be nobodies without him.

>>211588359
Not until they're absolutely forced to, and even then they'll do things like refuse to excavate sites that could lead to contradicting evidence. The whole
>We update our worldview when there's evidence!
>We LOVE being proven wrong!
>IF ONLY the established paradigm were upended!
thing is just a bullshit smokescreen. They're hypocrites who shoot down evidence on the basis of it not conforming to preconceived ideas.

>>211588447
I have personally met historians who refuse to discuss Gobekli Tepe because, and I quote, "We just don't know enough". As if because we haven't found recipts it doesn't matter. Half of the dinosaurs we claim to have existed are from remnants of bones, not even complete ones, much less full skeletons. That's a facile argument.

>>211588359
Tell that to Zahi Hawass

>>211588520
It's not the first time some media personality has taken an interest in him or that he's gotten flack from people in the fields he's talking about. He's also not the first to make the claims about prehistoric global cultures and Atlantis. None of this is new.

>>211588447
The current timeline says, "Everything we already decided about human history and progress is true, but also nomadic cavemen with no concept of society or agriculture built Gobekli Tepe." Saying the current timeline "includes Gobekli Tepe" isn't exactly honest, because nothing has been reevaluated beyond "also Gobekli Tepe exists."

>>211588577
>I have personally met historians who refuse to discuss Gobekli Tepe because, and I quote, "We just don't know enough".
And at the same time, the people in charge of the site refuse to excavate more of it and try to learn enough.

>>211587093
grimstone with iron attributes

>>211588537
When I was young the Official Timeline was
>anatomically modern humans have existed for 200,000 years
>for 194,000 years they did fuck all besides hunting, gathering, and scattering across the world
>then suddenly 6,000 years ago four widely separated cultures all had the idea to do writing and agriculture and cities at the same time
>don’t ask why they just did okay
Göbleki Tepe is exactly the kind of bitchslap those jackasses needed and it still took them like 25 years to maybe kind of accept it. I’ve heard that science only truly advances one obituary at a time and that can’t be more true for archaeoniggers

>>211588662
It's almost like excavation would destroy the site since it's layered constructions on top of each other and people in charge would rather preserve the top layers.

>>211588717
Then why did they plant trees that are known to have extremely destructive root systems?

>>211588636
That's not true. The current debate that sprung from Tepe revolves around worship/feasting being the catalyst for sendentarism. It was generally believed that agriculture and sedentary society gave rise to structured religious worship but it seems to be the other way around.

>>211588843
>that are known to have extremely destructive root systems?
are you really just mindlessly repeating what that faggot on twitter said? good lord man

>>211588843
To destroy the ancient spaceship hidden under there

>>211586370
Tell Musk to stop wasting money on rockets and brain chips and hire on all these history and sociology majors to excavate the site properly. Funding is a massive barrier.

>>211588843
Where are they planting trees?

British people are so dumb that they still can't accept that when they were still swamp creatures before the Romans arrived, there were people creating science, mathematics and architecture.

And many of them were BROWWWWWN. FUCK ANGLO WASP SCUM

>buncha rocks stacked on top of each other
HOLY SHIT ATLANTIS WAS REAL WE WERE COLONIZING MARS SUPPORT PALANTIR!

>>211588537
Well, it's understandable that some don't overturn their worldviews on a dime. They've built careers around certain ideas and probably have some emotional attachment to those beliefs. That's a lot of inertia. But, generally, once enough evidence has been presented they will modify their thinking. There are outliers, of course, but that goes both ways.

>read a post on twitter from literally who
>immediately believe everything because i want it to be true
how to identify a subhuman

>>211589013
That is not how academics function - that's how politicians function.

>>211589014
how to identify a gigachad

>>211588537
you obviously have no clue how academia works.
if there was any evidence of a watershed discovery about a pre-ice age civilization, literally nobody would try to bury it, they would throw money and manpower at the problem for bragging rights alone.
the "mainstream archaeologists" with 30 years careers under their belts wouldnt try to bury your paper and evidence, they would try to get their names on it and steal it away from you.
there are no emotional attachments to current theories, and the evidence and narrative around it shifts all the time, archaeologists disagree with eachother constantly. but a dispute about the exact dating of some pottery of the mississippi culture isnt as sexy as conjuring up some pre-ice age advanced civilization, real archaeology is slow and tedious and unlikely to get you any netflix and book deals

>>211588710
>anatomically modern humans have existed for 200,000 years
Even this has been pushed back in the last couple decades. Anatomically modern humans are known to have existed for 300,000 years, which makes the claim that they did literally nothing until less than 10,000 years ago even more absurd.

>>211589037
That's how humans function.

if you hate mainstream academia so much why do you care when they don't accept your theories?

>>211589171
>there are no emotional attachments to current theories

>>211577395
Not defending these embarassing bitches in the least but all sufes have to have their crazies. Lets see the lefty version of this lineup.

>>211589181
You just described science. You see it with history.
>in 1492 Colombus sailed the ocean blue proving the earth wasnt flat
>well, the Vikings were in America first
>also, it turns out most people didn't think the earth was flat, colombus thought there was no landmass between spain and india and miscalculated the size of the globe - which is why we call the carribean island the 'indies' as he legit thought he was in india
>and we can't ignore the maya, inca, etc who were already in the Americas
REVISIONIST HISTORY WOKE SHIT!!!

>>211589171
>there are no emotional attachments to current theories
Lmao. t. chemist

>>211589239
Because it's dangerous, it leads leaders to come into power who cut funding to things like cancer research because some asshole with brain worms thinks ivermectin and methylene blue can cure death.

>>211589275
I don't think you understood what point I was making.

>>211589255
Anecdotes aren't evidence.

>>211589365
>that doesn't count!

>>211589275
Columbus "discovered" the new world in that he reunited it with the rest of humanity who's vegetations and spices soon became used in every race and cultures cuisine in every country on every continent, so he still get the credit from anyone with a brain, obviously there were native civilizations but every other foreign entrance to america viking, or alleged chinese, malian, cartaginian, roman, irish, welsh japanese, australian aborigine or african doesn't matter as they had no meaningful effect neither in the americas or reintroducing it to the rest of the world

>>211589255
>>211589290
obviously archaeologists are still individuals with certain biases and opinions, but the institution of archaeology as such doesnt care about one theory or the other, it just follows evidence.

and I can guarantee you that hancock is a lot more emotionally attached to his own ideas than the average "mainstream archaeologist" he literally has to peddle this shit in order to make netflix deals that pay his rent. any tenured professor at an university doesnt really care what specific project they get funding for next year, as long as they have a job.

>>211589458
you sound like someone passionate about pluto being a planet, lmao

>>211589458
>any tenured professor
well that's the problem, the only people who engage in these retarded internet arguments are people who don't know anything about the field to begin with.
it's braindead 4channers vs braindead redditors

>>211589458
The institution of archeology is just a collection of individuals with certain biases and opinions. They're generally not going to fund or support things that go against their preconceptions.

>>211589458
>he literally has to peddle this shit in order to make netflix deals
no, his son is literally an executive there and gives him his cushy deals

>>211588634
I know, but he's really gotten a lot more attention because of his exposure on Rogan. Same with the Weinstein brothers who also peddle bullshit.

>>211577395
Because they found that by just validating whatever (relatively popular) delusion exists out there, regardless of whether it leads to a coherent set of beliefs, it will allow them to attract new, rather large demographics that aren't traditionally part of the right wing electorate. The alt health community for example is a big one here.
>>211577441
Not in and of itself, but it's very compatible with right wing thinking (i.e. lost golden age etc.) and of course also has significant overlap with fascistoid theories from the 19th and 20th centuries (Thule society etc.)

>>211589556
>They're generally not going to fund or support things that go against their preconceptions.
wrong. if there was evidence for ANY kind of watershed discovery, even if its something absurd like a dinosaur technology civilization, people will look into it.

universities go the the prestige of discovery, individual archaeologists for bragging rights and career advancement, and countries themselves for patriotic pride, why the fuck would some notoriously nationalist middle eastern nation try to bury evidence that the oldest civiluzation in human history existed on their territory? this would literally be the dream of any government to blow egyptians, greeks and romans out of the water and go down in the history books.

the reason hancocks ideas dont gain any traction in the real academic world is because they are all conjecture and weak evidence, there is no grand conspiracy to silence him, nobody bothers with it because its laughable as soon as you go beyond netflix documentary standards

>>211589799
>the reason hancocks ideas dont gain any traction in the real academic world is because they are all conjecture and weak evidence, there is no grand conspiracy to silence him, nobody bothers with it because its laughable as soon as you go beyond netflix documentary standards
Basically all his stuff boils down to "this is MY interpretation of the data with nothing to back it up and THEY won't let me dig up areas in search of things to prove me right because they know I'm right and don't wanna admit it."

>>211589799
>if there was evidence for ANY kind of watershed discovery, even if its something absurd like a dinosaur technology civilization, people will look into it.
That's just patently untrue. You sound extremely naive.

>>211578917
Nothing, that's mainstream archaeologys claim, Graham Hancock says otherwise and Gobekli Tepe is evidence of Grahams claim

>YO PUNK! YOU WANNA GET TO THAT EXCAVATION SITE YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH ME

what do?

I really fucking hate schizo retard faggots who pretend to be interested in Archeology/history so they can justify believing in aliens. Pic related made be frothing with rage when I kept hearing about it.

>>211590001
People look into this shit all the time. Recently for example when Hancock and Carlson wanted a crater in Greenland to be dated because it might've helped their claim of it was in a specific time frame, the research was done without any real push back. The crater it still interesting and there's people who like doing shit like measure the effect ice caps have on geology and shit like that without any thought into shit like Atlantis or the younger dryas impact hypothesis and its implications if true.

>>211590156
I never hear from alien schizos other than seethers pointing at schizos saying everything everywhere in every country and continent was actually made by aliens and seethers without fail reply
>UGH these heckin nazi chuds love white people and say ONLY things built by brown and black people were built by aliens!!!!!

>>211590014
No it doesn't. All the temple shows is generational work done on it with newer sections showing less skill than previous. There's nothing showing a permanent settlement near it.