I have a question. I HATE Dr. Who, I tried watching the new stuff with Tennant and thought the stories were absolute dogshit and couldn't finish them. They had decent ideas and then would ruin them with something ridiculous, the one I remember was something about an alien invasion over London but it ended up with a load of pigmen running around or something as stupid. My question is, I like old sci-fi and I wondered if the older stuff is better quality or more enjoyable than the current stuff. Would I like it?

Each episode is fucking three hours long. There are like eighty of them.

>>211603519
It says each episode is 25 minutes long.

>>211603498 (OP)
Hit or miss. There are some gems like Genesis of the Daleks and The Ribos Operation.

>>211603638
Story wise, how close would they be to say ST:TOS for example?

>>211603556
I think that anon is confused. Each story is multi-part in the classic series, most are 4 to 6 episodes, so about 2-3 hours total.

>>211603709
Ask the master.

>>211603709
That's probably the closest analogue, exploring interesting sci-fi concepts with a small budget and some cheesiness.

I forgot Tomb of the Cybermen which is also one of the best. The costumes look a bit silly but it's really suspensful and eerie, classic sci fi about a lost race that became machines.

>>211604085
I dont mind the low budget look as long as the stories are good.

>>211604154
Then I'd watch the highlights since some are very good but there are stinkers to avoid.

I'd recommend:
Tomb of the Cybermen
Spearhead From Space
Inferno
The Time Warrior
Genesis of the Daleks
City of Death
The Robots of Death
Kinda
The Caves of Androzani
Survival (last clasic Who episode)
Also, The Three Doctors is fun and the first multi-Doctor crossover, but not the best story.

>>211604932
Forgot The Ribos Operation!

>>211603498 (OP)

Listen, even at it´s best Doctor Who´s always a hit and a miss. Some stories are good and some are cringe as fuck. This is true for both old who and nu who (up to Peter Capaldi. After his run is a consistent unwatchable miss. It´s been like that for 10 years now)

People like to romanticize old who but 1st, 4th and maybe 6th are pretty much the only good memorable ones, and even that´s debatable. I mean, you really have to suspend your disbelief and accept Daleks are the most scary nazi shit in the whole universe or ride along with Omega being the Sauron equivalent of the timelords or think the Valeyard plot of taking the Doctor to court is super smart and evil and exiting.

There is at least one Doctor that spends his whole run on earth due to budget... i mean, because he was punished by the timelords for whatever. (can´t for the life of me remember what the excuse was though i seem to recall he considers his sentence served once he regenerates. New man and all that)

And 8th is unwatchable but that was expected considering it ´s a movie made by Americans. They never seem to get the Doctor right. In any case, don´t expect much. You are probably better off watching old twilight zone stuff or something like that.

Or maybe just check out which episodes from both old and nu who are worth watching and skip the bad ones. There is somewhat of a general consensus for the most part. Like, most people would agree stuff like The empty child, Blink, the girl in the fireplace are worth checking out. It´s probably also true for stuff like genesis of the daleks but again, you have to buy into the daleks for that.

>>211603498 (OP)
>I watched Disney NuWars slop and it was shit. is original Star Wars good?
>I watched (((Kurtzmann))) NuTrek slop and it was shit. is original Star Trek good?
why is Doctor Who the only sci-fi franchise where nufaggotry is not only tolerated but is actually the norm, even on 4chan?

>>211605985
>but 1st, 4th and maybe 6th are pretty much the only good memorable ones
What? 2nd, 3rd, and 5th Doctor are great. I really like 7th Doctor but he's more divisive.

>>211605985
>accept Daleks are the most scary nazi shit in the whole universe
They're mini tanks that shoot instakill beams. They should be scary.
>think the Valeyard plot of taking the Doctor to court is super smart and evil and exiting.
They were being meta as the show was on the verge of cancelation at the time.
>he was punished by the timelords for whatever
For stealing the TARDIS and interfering with time.
>that was expected considering it ´s a movie made by Americans
We get it, you're still sore from the L we gave you. Get over it.
>They never seem to get the Doctor right
We have. Just wasn't called Doctor Who.

>>211603498 (OP)
The thing is Classic is not really homogenous, and something like the Fourth Doctor era itself can be broken-up itself into at least 3 sub-eras. It would help to know what sort of thing you do like and can tolerate. I say tolerate because something like the First and Second Doctor may feel padded-out and they are very much televised stage plays. Additionally, with the first two Doctors you have serials that are either missing or partially missing - and as much as I may think The Evil of the Daleks is best Dalek serial I do not think recommending a 7-part serial in which only one part has survived and the rest you have to watch through lacklustre animation is really good advice. Honestly may just be worth looking at IMDB and seeing what is highly rated and what sounds interesting to you.

>>211605985
The TVM was written and produced by Englishmen. only the director was American and he did a wonderful job

>>211603498 (OP)
The Romans
The Tomb of the Cybermen
The Time Warrior
Pyramids of Mars
The Talons of Weng-Chiang
City of Death

They all have positive reputations and should be relatively accessible. There are other serials that are great, but they require probably some more familiarity to understand or get full enjoyment out of - though despite me saying that much of Classic is standalone. Both Spearhead from Space (first 3rd story) and Robot (first 4th story) are also good jumping on points. May also just be worth you watching the first serial The Unearthly Child (or at least the very first episode). It may not be for you and I do not think this is the best thing to actually try to get into Classic wit, but the first three serials (Unearthly Child, The Dead Planet, and The Edge of Destruction) do form something of a arc for the Doctor.

>>211604932
>Genesis of the Daleks
This is controversial on my part and I do not want to derail the discussion to be about Genesis, but I consider it overrated and, what is pertinent to OP, I am unsure how much he will get out of it without having familiarity with the Daleks.
>The Caves of Androzani
Good story, but I question if a regeneration story is the best thing to recommend to OP.

>>211607099
>Both Spearhead from Space (first 3rd story) and Robot (first 4th story)
Terror of the Autons and Time Warrior work too. Ark in Space, Deadly Assassin, Face of Evil and Ribos Operation work as well.

>>211603556
Each story is comprised of 3-5 half hour episodes. There are no single-episode stories. What you end up getting is what feels like a single very drawn out episode of TV that lasts 2-3+ hours. Each serial is like watching a movie where nothing was cut for time, the pacing is atrocious.

>>211605985
>There is at least one Doctor that spends his whole run on earth due to budget... i mean, because he was punished by the timelords for whatever. (can´t for the life of me remember what the excuse was though i seem to recall he considers his sentence served once he regenerates. New man and all that)
As you say in-universe the reason is exile and the meta-reason is budgetary, but as a character the Doctor never agreed with his sentence. The Third Doctor was trying to escape from Earth throughout his era, yet had the knowledge how to work the TARDIS and a key component of it taken from him by the Time Lords at the end of The War Games and only restored towards the later end of his run in The Three Doctors. Post-Three Doctors the show began to move away from Earth stories.

>>211603498 (OP)
If I had to recommend an entire season, if that is the way you may want to do it, then S13.

>>211607239
>Ark in Space
Depends if you are saying to watch onwards from there. Ark is followed by The Sontaran Experiment which is an okay serial and effectively a length of a Nu episode combined, however hardly a great second outing. Even if we were to say Genesis of the Daleks is great, which you can contest in itself and in terms of being a third story to watch, that would be followed by Revenge of the Cybermen. Besides, if you are starting at Ark you may as well just start with the predecessor Robot.
>The Deadly Assassin
Fine serial, but to me it is like how recommending Blink is a bad idea to recommend someone for them to get into Nu. Neither are reflective of a typical, as much as there is, Doctor Who story.

>>211603498 (OP)
>My question is, I like old sci-fi and I wondered if the older stuff is better quality
Anon, Doctor Who is for children.
Why are Americans still watching this? Besides the drastic dip in quality, aren't you all adults?

>>211603638
>The Ribos Operation.
I have nothing against The Ribos Operation but, I have never seen anyone hold it on the same level as Genesis.

>>211603498 (OP)
When I see threads like this part of me suspects OP has seen Classic and just wants a thread about Classic Doctor Who.

>>211603498 (OP)
Old Doctor Who is okay but I'd personally recommend Blake's 7 over it if you haven't watched that one yet. It was created by one of the head writers from Doctor Who but has a more interesting narrative and characters

>>211607099
>The Talons of Weng-Chiang
Jago and Litefoot got their own series in Big Finish.

New Who always felt like woke garbage.

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>>211607099
Weng has a fucking cultural warning on it now.

If you didn't like newer who then you likely won't enjoy the classic who's.
I'm a lot like you where I can latch on to older stuff and take it more seriously, but Who was honestly boring up until the 9th doctors saga.

>>211607197
>Caves
especially when it leads into a ripe piece of dog shit like Twin Dilemma

Thanks for all the recs Anons, I'll check them out and see how nice get on with them.

>>211607341
There are a handful of 2-episode serials, like Black Orchid and The King’s Demons.

>>211608892
Best thing to do may be to just dart around different Doctors. Anons can give you recommendations of what are generally held up as accessible and well-regarded, but there is plenty of less generic answers that are good and you may easily enjoy more. There is a core essence to the character and show sure, however different Doctors and eras have different approaches and focuses. As some anons have already said, much of the Third Doctor is on Earth and he is with the military. Second Doctor is known for 'base under siege' stories. Doctor Who is effectively an anthology show with a main character that can filter through genres, though rarely is it hard sci-fi if that is what you are looking for.

Genesis of The Daleks
Supremacy of The Daleks
Death of The Daleks
Return of The Daleks
Die Daleks Die
Revenge of The Daleks
Rebirth of The Daleks
Planet of The Daleks
War of The Daleks
Dalek Extinction

>Doctor Who
>From Skaro with Love
>Sonicfinger
>Timeball
>You Only Live Thirteen Times
>On Rassilon's Secret Service
>Time Crystals Are Forever
>Regenerate and Let Die
>The Man with the Golden Screwdriver
>The Time Lord Who Loved Me
>Kill the Moon
>Spoilers
>Cyberpussy
>A View to the Time Vortex
>The Deadly Assassin
>Licence to Time Travel
>The Eye of Harmony
>Tomorrow Is Wibbly-Wobbly
>The Universe Is Not Enough
>Regenerate Another Day
>Casino Midnight
>E-Space of Solace
>Spyfall
>The Silence
>No Time to Regenerate

>>211609400
>Cyberpussy
This one is real.

Depends to what degree you enjoy incredibly low budget productions, because that's what it was.
The old series is kind of less campy in a strange way. They generally were just trying to make something good (and often failing), as opposed to setting out to make a show that's stupid and kitschy. It's like the difference between actual classic Batman comics, and Adam West Batman.

>>211609631
Cast in point: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDPBIBNE940
The tone of stuff like this is very much like they're trying their hardest to do Hammer Horror on a super low budget. What's laughable about it is laughable due to limitations. It's not supposed to be a joke.

>>211609774
>The tone of stuff like this is very much like they're trying their hardest to do Hammer Horror on a super low budget.
Really says how low the budget was given that Hammer itself was low budget.

>>211605985
>doesn't like Troughton
He steals the show in every one of the anniversary specials. He was the best of them, if anything.

>>211608500
They should have went with that TV spin-off that got discussed in the 70s.

>>211609580
She shoplifts and them tries to return the stuff for money.

>>211603498 (OP)
The older series were just as wacky but more low budget
They would do multiple episodes as sagas as opposed to modern who being one or maybe two if it's a special occasion.
If you hated Tennant's who you're probably really hate stuff like Tom Baker or later into the 80s Who where they were struggling to keep the show on air.

>>211610907
Tom Baker can be pretty serious depending on the episode. There's zanier stuff (like the Douglass Adams episodes), but there's also Talons of Weng Chiang or The Brain of Morbius.

>>211603836
Based Harlan

>>211611180
And to be fair even City of Death isn't really a zany episode. It's good some good comedic lines in it, but the plot is actually a really cool sci-fi conundrum.

>>211607341
has there been any serious fan effort to re-edit the old stuff at all? it doesn't need to be quite as fast paced as NuWho but there was no need for some of these stories to be 8 parts. the later McCoy years where they cut it down was so nice, the pacing was just right for the stories they were telling.

>>211613899
the official BBC colourised episodes are also re-edited.
There's only two of them though, and you have to sit through some needless references to new Doctors in The War Games.

>>211614652
The music is shit also, both in what they use and the volume.

>>211614684
Tbf most of Classic Who's music is shit up until Dudley Simpson was fired

>>211605985
8th Doctors movie is kino.

>>211608555
Smith era wasn't woke.

>>211615741
Not woke, but very simpy.