>but is willing to defend vito being gay
lol

Mafia shit is so boring. I want a mafia show where everyone is borderline retarded and unlikeable and all of the hits are messy fuckups that end up biting the crime group in the ass from a legal standpoint, just like real life

>>211609484
That was pretty much the sopranos

>>211609369 (OP)
He was a good earner.

>>211609701
No it wasn't. Sopranos glorified this shit to no end. I want a show that totally humiliates these people.

Vito had kids and earned money. Tony was being pragmatic. Look how long took him to whack Ralph.

>>211609843
what the hell are you talking about? you seriously think showcasing all their stupid decisions was glorifying them?

>>211609843
Did we watch the same show?

>>211609484
The cops were never a threat in the sopranos when Livia died and Matush did 911

>>211609484
>>211609701
>>211609843
>>211609948
Sopranos let them get away with shit like way too public hits and stuff like that, but the ultimate tone and messaging was that these guys are all half retarded and doomed to death or jail time for trifling levels of success and only for bigger guys, movers and shakers. A lot of them just scraped by or barely lived "middle class" lives. While always looking over their shoulders and selling their souls for it.

And constantly shown to be incapable of doing even an 8 hour day's honest work.

>>211609369 (OP)
How is being racist as bad as murdering, stealing and cheating again?

>>211609369 (OP)
He barely defends him

>>211609369 (OP)
Tony didn't have strong moral convictions about gay shit. He's a pragmatist not a moralist (far from it except with easy and universal moralist shit like "dude I fuckin hate kiddy diddlers"). He doesn't want his son to be gay and thinks being a fag is gross but if it's not treading on him, or better yet could make him money, what the fuck does he care.

And yes he's a racist but he's not an ideological racist, he just prefers his own but outright works with multiple other races out of pragmatism/quid pro quo. If him and a black guy can make money together he doesn't give a fuck he's a nigger.

>>211609369 (OP)
He didn't give a shit about Vito, but his crew was falling apart at this point and his gambling was getting worse and worse so losing his best earner hit hard. Also Tony fucking HATED Phil and capitulating to him in any capacity made Tony seethe

>>211612542
>his gambling was getting worse and worse
This was introduced after the Vito storyline

>>211609369 (OP)
>greedy man forgets his moral scruples when there's money to be made
yeah how inconsistent with his character

A mole on her ass?

funny how these homophobic guidos have more homosexual experience than most men thanks to their time in the joint

>>211609369 (OP)
Vito was a good earner and Tony cared more about that than his homosexuality
If you owned a car dealership and your top salesman was gay, would you care what he does off hours? Or would you be happy with the money he's putting in your bank account?

>>211609369 (OP)
yeah i didn't like that they went to the "suddenly best earner" well again after ralphie

>>211612869
YOU GET A PASH FOR THAT

>funny how "african americans" are like the gayest race in America to the point they're constantly raping each other in prison and even have their own cultural slang for closet faggots like "downlow" while also being the most homophobic race around

>>211612869
You get a pass for that

>>211612869
You get a pass for that.

>>211609369 (OP)
It's his best earner, he's gambling, he hates phil, he also knows phil is in the closet so its especially stupid to him but he can't say anything.

>Bada bing bada boo oy vey salami and gorlami

>>211609369 (OP)
I don't see how that's contradictory, they're all sins.

I bet it gets complicated, when you're taking it up your fag ass

>>211609843
I know we meme about media literacy but you unironically lack it

the thing with tony is deep down he gave zero fuck about muh morals, muh code, any of that mafia bullshit, beyond what makes him money. oh he knew to "conform" enough to keep the boys in line, but deep down he didn't care.
its part of his deterioration in the final season where he clearly stops giving a fuck. like telling carlo maybe he should suck some cock so he earned more

>>211609369 (OP)
He was the one making him the most money of all captains.

>>211609843
paulie suffocated an old lady for a what amounts to pocket change
junior ends up toothless and senile in a psych ward
chrissy gets clean then has all his "friends" laugh at him and tell him his daughter is gonna be a cheap whore because he won't have a drink
how the fuck is that glorifying the life

He’s a good earner, and it was just a little joke, AND he was on blood pressure medication. Frankly you would have to be a closeted homo yourself not to let this one slide.

>>211609369 (OP)
I love how you threw "racist" in there, as if that's somehow equivalent to murder and theft.

>>211609369 (OP)
Vito was a good earner. A real come from behind kinda guy.

>>211609369 (OP)

>>211615052
we really are just a bunch of monkeys

>>211615204
apes*

>>211615361
apes are monkeys

>>211615529

>>211615204
they're acting to fool low IQ zoomers.

>>211615141
Still one of the best /tv/ webms of all time, thanks for the chuckle, Anon.
I'll add my personal favourite Sopranos meme.

>>211609369 (OP)
lol are you retarded. he just had survived a gut shot and he was contemplating giving second chances due to that. fucking retard