Why can't we have an Imperial kino? - /tv/ (#211638990) [Archived: 1288 hours ago]

Anonymous
6/18/2025, 6:03:22 PM No.211638990
They took this from us
They took this from us
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At this point I don't even care if they lose in the end. Just make them badass, fast/agile, strong and honorable, if they lose, make them do a last "TENNO HEIKA BANZAI!"

Make the "rebels" (Senate's forces) cool too and show each other respect and admiration.

Why can't we have a Star Wars that's about WAR?
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 6:08:17 PM No.211639135
>>211638990 (OP)
Filmmakers would be accused of promoting Nazism as that's what the Empire has always been based upon. The only way it'd work is if you made it a comedy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HO70-Rk3jE
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 6:10:27 PM No.211639202
The original trilogy came out 50 million years ago and retards still can't understand that per George himself the Empire is a cartoon villain and is not supposed to be humanized in any way shape or form
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 6:11:53 PM No.211639238
>>211638990 (OP)
The closest we ever got was in Mando S2 when the empire saves the convoy. It was kino af and brought a tear to my eye.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 6:12:25 PM No.211639257
>>211639202
yet he could humanize literal clones
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 6:12:54 PM No.211639273
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>>211638990 (OP)
Asteroid Troopers. hardcore troopers. and you thought Snowtroopers were hardcore
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 6:15:40 PM No.211639354
>>211639135
>war-comedy Imperial kino
I'm in.

The thing is, despite the Empire having some III Reich's influence, according to Lucas himself, the Empire was more like Britain under Victoria or USA under Nixon, not fascistic but authoritarian.

The Empire being fascist became canon under Disney.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 6:15:44 PM No.211639357
>>211639257
In some cartoon for 6-year-olds that came out almost a decade after they were introduced
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 6:17:03 PM No.211639394
>>211639354
What???

>"When I wrote it [Star Wars], it was during the Vietnam War, and Nixon was trying to become a dictator. I said to myself, 'How do democracies get turned into dictatorships?' The Empire is a dictatorship, a fascist dictatorship."
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 6:18:19 PM No.211639437
>>211639273
The fuck is that? They look absolutely retarded.

>>211639202
Dude, Lucas said his franchise should not be stagnated, the whole thing behind KOTOR and Prequels was to constantly innovate.

>>211639257
This, idiotic af.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 6:22:13 PM No.211639573
>>211639394
Yeah, but latter changed that.

>Legends (former pre-Disney canon and EU)
>Empire, humanocentric authoritarian empire
>aka, Space Britain

>Canon (Disney)
>Empire, fascist dictatorship / stratocracy
>aka, Space Italy / Germany
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 6:22:45 PM No.211639592
Remnant Troopers
Remnant Troopers
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Disney can't into war stories
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 6:24:22 PM No.211639646
>>211639357
They were humanised in the EU books long before that shitty cartoon ruined everything
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 6:48:43 PM No.211640520
>>211639592
>SEEEE SEEEEE THEY'RE THE REMNANTS BECAUSE SOME PARTS OF THE ARMOR NO LONGER EXIST + DIRTINESS
>behold the last loyal soldiers of the Emperor
I swear, even the greedy bastards of Games Workshop do a better job with the concept.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 7:00:08 PM No.211640921
>>211639202
Star Wars is a meta-meta-meta take on mythology, among other primary factors. It's all humanized.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 7:08:25 PM No.211641207
>>211640921
I don't care, I just want a galactic-scale total war.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 7:09:08 PM No.211641229
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 8:01:29 PM No.211643145
We need Sheev and Vader kino

Someone young and younger playing young Sheev

Then Vader does normal Empire things
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 8:06:25 PM No.211643302
>>211639357
wrong
go rewatch episode 2 and 3, until order 66, they're humanized good guys
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 8:26:32 PM No.211644034
>>211639573
Bro he said that shit in 2005. What are you talking about? Disney had absolutely nothing to do with Lucas calling the Empire fascist
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 8:31:32 PM No.211644223
>>211638990 (OP)
Because you wouldn't watch it.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 8:44:17 PM No.211644710
>>211639257
This. Ironically, the droids were humanized too.

>>211644223
Yes I would. As long as the lead is guaranteed to NOT defect to the rebels or the New Republic at the end, or by the second act.

LOOKING AT YOU, Battlefront 2.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 9:00:34 PM No.211645355
>>211643302
They have less than 10 lines of dialogue in the entirety of those two films

>>211644710
Both of you are just indicating that you don't know what humanized means. By your definitions every character in the Star wars movies are humanized, which is incorrect.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 9:02:00 PM No.211645397
>>211645355
The CIS army droids have moments where we see they have human like personalities, interactions and emotions.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 9:02:58 PM No.211645431
>>211638990 (OP)
because chuds would use it as propaganda
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 9:04:26 PM No.211645487
Check this out
https://youtu.be/PN_CP4SuoTU?si=Yq_gTkJBa4hye6dJ
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 9:07:16 PM No.211645597
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I want an Imperial show where it just shows a regular person enlisting and what its like being a soldier in a Galaxy wide Empire.

How some planets love you, others hate you. Sometimes, you deal with pirates, other times with rebels or dissidents. Just camaraderie amongst the troopers and everyone had their own different reasons to enlist. Things ramp up towards the end when more unrest is starting to happen across the galaxy due to the Empire overreaching.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 9:07:49 PM No.211645615
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>>211638990 (OP)
Wokes are children and can't into morally grey characters.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 9:08:10 PM No.211645632
>>211644710
You would not pay for a subscription to watch it or leave the house to see it in cinemas. So why lie.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 9:09:45 PM No.211645706
founding
founding
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>imperial assassin is called upon by a sith
>i need you to go kill this dude
>yes sir
>assassin gets tricked out in gear and heads out
>he sneaks in and kills the dude
>but he is found while escaping
>assassin has to kill his way out
>rebel scum dying left and right
>assassin is almost free
>a goddamn jedi shows up
>assassin flees, jedi chases him
>sith can feel assassin is coming back, he goes to greet him
>jedi corners assassin and kills him
>camera pans to show sith looking pissed at seeing his dead friend
>cliffhanger for sequel
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 9:10:10 PM No.211645732
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>>211645487
wtf are these gay things? a flying cockpit with no ship?
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 9:32:56 PM No.211646811
>>211645732
Those appear to be flying gay cock pits with no ship.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 9:46:56 PM No.211647441
>>211646811
those are IC-GACOCK-101s
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 10:25:26 PM No.211649062
>>211639135
>>211639354
Fuck no, comedy in itself is a red flag.
Make a pure jingoist kino about the New Republic invading Coruscant.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 10:27:56 PM No.211649164
>>211638990 (OP)
I want Star Wars to move on from Empire vs Rebellion crap.
Andor was already boring as shit with the retread to the beginning of the war.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 10:28:54 PM No.211649205
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>>211649164
>Andor was already boring as shit
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 10:31:21 PM No.211649323
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>>211649164
>I want Star Wars to move on from Empire vs Rebellion crap.
"We" let disney try that once already. It sucked.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 10:33:09 PM No.211649392
>>211649205
Yes, I'm exhausted of the Rebellion and the Empire, they are both lame as fuck, rebels dress like clown and Imperials are maybe the most incompetent villains in cinema.
The sequels being a retread of this doesn't help, amd then comes Andor going
>Empire vs Rebellion for the third time
Jesus christ, every other villain in Star Wars has been more menacing than those clowns.

>>211649323
Because Disney can't write for shit and is completely creatively bankrupt.
100.000 years and they focus on the same boring 20 years every time.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 10:35:24 PM No.211649488
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>>211649392
What kinds of stories should we see instead of imperials vs rebels then? I want to here a unique and kino idea from you.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 10:36:56 PM No.211649564
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>>211649392
I'd also like to point out how ridiculous it is when Disney tries to make Darth Vader "horrifying" when he has one of the dumbest designs ever and got his ass kicked everytime he faced another Jedi.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 10:41:51 PM No.211649775
>>211649488
Lucas' sequel trilogy idea was good, of the galaxy turning into a wild west, criminals taking over, and the NR and NJO being basically sheriffs.
Another one I'd like is the Star Wars equivalent of Silmarillion, of how the Celestials built the galaxy, all the infughting and wars caused by their descendants before going extinct.

The only story I'd like featuring the Empire is one showing the last days of the Imperial Remnant as the New Republic systematically hunts them down to the last stormtrooper.
No bledding heart bs, just pure stormtrooper genocide.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 10:45:31 PM No.211649922
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>>211649775
ok id watch those shows, thank you captain.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 10:46:43 PM No.211649963
>>211649922
>shows
Hell no, either movies or videogames. TV shows are the worst type of media, they are just movies with a shit ton of filler
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 10:47:40 PM No.211650002
GET-HER
GET-HER
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RAPE STATUS?!
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 11:50:46 PM No.211652510
>>211650002
Lamest rape scene ever, it's obvious it was just there for millennials to basedface and go
>damn, my kid cartoons are serious now