Controlled Opposition Edition
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>>211644663 (OP)Who is Nigel's favourite Doctor Who?
>>211644725Pertwee obviously
>>211645048>Fake tough man who is actually secretly a supporter of left wing policies Sounds about right
>Cool voice
>Undefeated
>Will tell you you're above average and have excellent skills of deduction if you're good enough
>Sontar HA
>>211645377not *very* funny, is it?
>>211645301>farage>actually secretly a supporter of left wing policiesthe fuck are you talking about
he's a thatcherite neo-lib
let me guess, you think importing millions of cheap laborers ISN'T a neo-lib policy?
>>211646506He does big finish audios though, how's that going to work?
Although I agree I can see other woke figures (ecclescunt) refusing to work with him over wrongthink.
>>211646701Big Finish already has a history of erasing actors for wrongthink. But really, it all depends on whether there's any actual backlash to the Dead Ringers skit beyond a few tossers on reddit and GallifreyBase crying about how Culshaw used the word "woke" or the fact he's doing an impression of a black man
>>211647074To be fair even as someone who disagrees with every progressive political agenda when I hear the word "woke" I immediately think it's some hackneyed grifter or out of touch boomer speaking. It is a deeply unserious word and shouldn't ever be used as if the topic was important. They always pronounce it with a fucking glottal stop before it like it's a new concept when the term has existed for years at this point and is on every hour long video essay by an annoying virgin going.
>>211644663 (OP)this guy is still around? idk uk politics at all but i thought he brought along the brexit situation and then dipped
>>211645906it's also a left-wing policy
>>211647541he's currently ahead in the polls to be next PM
>>211647356Largely true desu, it's a buzzword and not even a useful one. Like people calling things "toxic" or "problematic", it's just a blanket term to say you don't like something.
But the Dead Ringers sketch only used the word once, in amidst actual criticism of the cringey, unearned emotional mawkishness (or whatever the line was) that permeates RTD2. Redditors only focus on Culshaw saying woke because it's an easy gotcha for them.
>>211647681Get back to work, Nige
>>211647541He did, but then he ran out of money and had to start making cameos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbWYObXSj34
Then people finally got sick of the Tories so he saw his opportunity to re-enter politics.
Looks like the glowniggers are prepping him for rule as well, because he's already started removing people from the party with actually right-wing views, like this fella.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hitmTXYq97c
>>211647681This is so exciting!
>>211645906meaningless distinction.
>>211644725Farage is a fan of Big Finish and says that you can't really appreciate Colin Baker until you listen to his audios
>>211647356Woke is when it's done for political reasons at the expense of the story and characters. Having black people in something doesn't make things woke. Making a big deal about them being black and hating on rando white people for just existing is woke.
Drama on Doctor Who Twitter
https://x.com/TharriesYT/status/1935385870741520405?t=teSqCKTh9XTGTK6HptY86g&s=19
>>211647356it's a euphemism. Normies are still too scared to just call things anti-white, or misandrist.
>>211644663 (OP)I wish Ruby would 73 Yards him.
>>211648341Alright, I'll take you to... Rwanda.
What the fuck is this
https://tardis.wiki/wiki/Liar,_Liar_(comic_story)
>>211645906He's a Blairite. He's supportive of the Blairite consensus. He doesn't even support deporting illegal immigrants anymore.
It is pretty much impossible to be a successful politician in this country if you're not a Blairite, otherwise the civil service and media will destroy you. Farage has realises that and has decided he values getting invited to fancy dinners more than actually fixing the country.
>>211648946Following the links, this is a comic story based off of a franchise a tranny wrote. Basically a tranny wrote the Nick Tredor series, which licensed Doctor Who characters for a story, Tekker and Krennos. Because of this, someone (probably the tranny to advertise), put his stories and comic into the wiki.
>>211648946Go over to the author's own page and prepare to be totally surprised by what he looks like.
I love how they'll put up pages for objective fanfiction like this, but 90% of the articles for Big Finish audios don't even have a basic plot synopsis.
>>211649020Blairism, Thatcherism, it's all the same.
>>211648946>>211649131Another classic case of lenient writer estates giving away character rights to anyone who asks.
Tardis Wiki covers anything that features a character that originated in Doctor Who canon, so if you ask a writer estate for their rights then use their character in a fanfic or even some MS Paint slop, you can get it on the wiki.
What is worse is that they also have to cover any characters that originate in that fanfic by extension, since that fanfic would be a Doctor Who canon work. So you end up with Tardis Wiki having pages for shit that has nothing to do with Doctor Who
>>211649801Tracing it to the source, it looks like Steve Lyons let this tranny have the licence to Paul Darrow from Timelash
Why Lyons has that licence specifically makes about as much sense as why these stupid pages are on the wiki in the first place.
GREENIS ANDIES WAR
WHO WILL WIN
VOTE
>>211648345That would be a good definition, but many things called woke do notsatisfy that criteria
>>211650436notsatisfy. Wow that's a good name. They should use it for a companion, team up with Petrol.
>>211650392It's not *very* funny, is it?
hahaha greenis ohmygod. I just got it LOL. Mad props!
>>211650653The guy below you and whoever's controlling the androids thinks it is.
Truly impressive how RTD has somehow left the show in a worse state than it was in three years ago under Chibs. A fumble for the ages.
>>211648946I'll do you one better
https://tardis.wiki/wiki/Persephone_Mini-Comic_(comic_story)
>>211650392Why doesn't this have a page on the wiki?
>>211649801I miss when the wiki wasn't as autistic and just used common sense to define valid and invalid sources
>>211650976Worldbuilding
The Grand Father has a moustache.
>>211651029When did it all go wrong? Cookieboy is to blame of course. Deciding LITERALLY EVERYTHING is equally valid makes this mess, a communistic failing philosophy. It can never go back. It never will.
>>211651141>When did it all go wrong?Timeless Child cemented the "nothing is canon" mentality
That was also around the time Tardis wiki became less strict with sources and started treating literal comic relief skits and the "daft dimension" comic as valid
>>211651266But there must have been admins stopping this sort of thing. Did they all leave? Maybe it was when the wiki split? fucks sake there's no way to stop it, random nonsense pages spreading like a cancer.
https://tardis.wiki/wiki/Billy%27s_Birthday!_(comic_story)
>>211651377>But there must have been admins stopping this sort of thing. Did they all leave?Admins actively take part in this, many of them write for Faction Paradox spin-offs
>Maybe it was when the wiki split?This has been happening for years before the wiki split
My favourite Doctor Who character is Billy Jacobsen-Bezecny
>>211651476All written by an atom.
Remember 2014? Let's make our own wiki again! Let's show the retardis data cunt how it's done! Come on everybody!
>buy rights to minor classic Who character for pennies
>Photoshop them into one of my holiday photos
>Now all my pics from my 2024 trip to Malta are canon and need to be added to the wiki
>>211651919How much more of this can happen before someone takes a stand?
>>211651747https://whogen.miraheze.org/wiki
>>211652138oh it sucks ne'er mind
>>211652023There's probably nothing that can be done
As the other anon says the pandora's box has been opened and reversing all of this would be a massive task
UK's old copyright laws are evidently a major source of the problem
Frankly they should not be covering anything where someone has just bought the rights to a classic who character outside the wilderness years, who the fuck considers the later BBV Liz Shaw shit canon other than Bill Baggs?
>>211652138https://whogen.miraheze.org/wiki/Judy_copypastas
https://whogen.miraheze.org/wiki/Worst_/who/_threads_ever
THE DOCTORS VIEW ON AUTISM:
You know, if there is anything I hate in the universe other then a Dalek, it's Bullies. I've met plenty of them in my life time. even on my home world of Gallifrey we had our own Bullies.
One thing about bullies, they pick on the weak, the lonely, the vulnerable, and if there is anything I hate even more about bullies, it's those who pick on those who suffer with various conditions that can affect an individuals life, such as Autism, a condition that affects the human brain. It causes human's to suffer with learning differculties, makes them seem odd to people, makes them behave in all sorts of ways, makes it differcult for them to socialize with family and friends, makes it hard for them to understand things, such as recognizing other peoples feelings and their own emotions, makes life for them differcult in being not very independant compared to those who don't suffer with Autism.
>>211652712>One thing about bullies, they pick on the weak, the lonely, the vulnerableThe Doctor stands for Incel Rights.
>>211652712>makes life for them differcult>differcultwhat is the doctor's view on spastics like you?
>>211651141>CookieboyI notice he likes to have images from non-Doctor Who stuff as the main on articles whenever he can. iirc the page for mirror's first image is from that one Thunderbirds episode, there's also others from that one X-Men episode and the Disney Time shit. I really do not get the Thunderbirds/X-Men thing, surely it would be all or nothing.
>>211652950There's okay as long as there's a story after this where the Weeping Angels or some alien attacks Sarah and Lily. There is something like that in the story, right?
>>211652712USE AN APOSTROPHE OR FUCK OFF
I love this sinister nigga like you wouldn't believe.
>>211654290The public considers him to be the third worst Doctor.
>>211654608The public are niggers.
>>211654676At least people think he's better than Baker C. and Jodie.
I want to suck on Martha's chocolate clit.
>>211654676Racism is bad.
>>211655164So is sucking cock, but you're going all out.
I never got the "4th doctor epic dark gothic horror" meme, I watched talons of Weng Chiang and it seemed like an average story. Nothing really very horror about it.
>>211655248How do you know?
>>211655296>Racism is bad.That was the giveaway. Faggot.
>>211655459The Doctor doesn't like racism, so neither should you.
>>211655459Racism is extremely bad, you should be executed for your hate crimes.
>>211655459What channel do you think this show is on, needle dick?
>>211655577The Big Broadcasting Channel?
>>211647356Not even lmao its woke and it fucking sucks
they did the same thing to my little pony for God's sake
>>211654608All of the people who didn't watch it in the late 80's had very strong opinions on McCoy.
>>211655667It used to be so straight and based to watch my little pony before the 'woke got to it.
Why is Ncuti's arse so fucking big jesus
>>211652315Haha I'm just learning about all this
It's funny and scary to see copyright blow up like a bomb like this hahaha
>>211655780Just like the people who haven't watched Classic but have heard him being the epic chessmaster on Big Finish.
>>211655933le epic Chessmaster was a VNAs thing. Big Finish tends to be more true to his TV characterisation.
>>211652315>>211655860I don't understand what part of copyright law makes this canon.
>>211648468>Davis stops watching NunuWho "for Sammy's sanity">Goes insane anywayReject Doctor Who
Embrace Thunderbirds
>>211655811Because he's a homosexual black man.
>>211655811He's a black. It's why they're so rapeable. Their plump asses and girlish shrieks make it easier to pretend.
>>211657348If RTD had Gatwa doing high kicks and saying 'Yas, Queen!', you would think he'd have wrote his Doctor twerking at some point
>>211657522He would twerk the Daleks away.
>>211656712>character debuts in 80s classic who serial>decades later, rights to character are randomly given away>person who now has legal right to use the character uses them in some webcomic with their own OCs>tardis wiki considers it canon because it has a who character>person then makes another webcomic with an OC that debuted in the previous comic>tardis wiki considers said OC to be a doctor who character because they debuted in a doctor who canon work, and therefore OC now has the same status as a classic who characterIt's a very retarded interpretation
>>211656712The multiverse as a concept exists to keep retards from thinking all of it counts. Different worlds, different rules. It was used both as narrative cleanup and nostalgia.
>>211657854>>tardis wiki considers it canon because it has a who characterThis is the step I'm missing. By this logic a fix with Sontarons is canon.
Why'd the Doctor never go back for Sarah?
>>211658158They have four rules for considering whether something is valid
https://tardis.wiki/wiki/Tardis:Valid_sources
>Only works of fiction count.>A work of fiction which isn't commercially licensed by all of the relevant copyright holders doesn't count.>A work of fiction must be officially released to be valid.>If a work of fiction was intended to be set outside the DWU, then it's probably not allowed. But a community discussion will likely be needed to make a final determination.So Fix with Sontarans isn't valid because the out of universe Savile bits fail the first and fourth points, but a random webcomic someone made can easily pass (there's an edit from the blu-ray collection that removes Savile that the wiki does consider canon though https://tardis.wiki/wiki/A_Fix_with_Sontarans_(home_video)
>>211658665>>A work of fiction which isn't commercially licensed by all of the relevant copyright holders doesn't count.But the BBC licence to Doctor Who itself doesn't count?
>>211658981No because they don't own the licence to everything from Doctor Who because of old copyright rules
The Daleks may be from Doctor Who but the BBC can't just produce something with them without the blessing from the Nation estate
>>211659085But it's the Doctor who wiki, not the every IP that ever appeared on the show Doctor Who wiki. Unless the article was directly in or mentioned on Doctor Who or any show given licence to use the Doctor Who brand it shouldn't be on the wiki.
>>211659305Okay but you see the problem with this is that by limiting it to that, you exclude a good chunk of the wilderness years stuff like Downtime, and that 2009 Australian K9 spin off, and the Dalekmania stuff
>>211659779Let them have pages but specifically define them as non-canon.
i just spiffed to an african lady, and i feel positively refreshed.
https://tardis.wiki/wiki/Loss_(comic)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOS9zYgkHPY > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIjUSzpYcuA
what happens if a time lady is pregnant and regenerates into a man
>>211662376The foetus simply reabsorbs into the body, as it is part of the female body and by no means a living being in it's own right.
>>211662376They don't get pregnant.
>>211662376They regenerate in to the baby, which busts forth from the stomach a-la Alien, and rapidly grows in to an adult timelord.
>>211663217And then says "Welp, that just happened."
>>211655811Whoa, ass ahoy.
>>211655811i thought he got a bbl
>>211662376maybe their physiology makes it so they will still turn into a woman until the baby is born, also what would happen if a timelord impregnated themselves so that theyre both the mom and dad
William Henry Hartnell
Patrick George Troughton
John Devon Roland Pertwee
Thomas Stewart Baker
Peter Malcolm Gordon Moffett
Colin Charles Baker
Percy James Patrick Kent-Smith
Paul John McGann
John Vincent Hurt
Christopher Eccleston
David John McDonald
Matthew Robert Smith
Peter Dougan Capaldi
Jodie Auckland Whittaker
Joanna Lisa Martin
Mizero Ncuti Gatwa
>>211665279>Christopher Ecclestontoo fucking right in are house you were lucky enough to get one name
>>211665394Chris Topher Eccleston
workin class fru and fru me
love me poofs, love me troons
ate russel ate the bbc
What genre should Who take on now? What's hot?
>>211670643hard racism. Old style.
>>211649020>It is pretty much impossible to be a successful politician in this country if you're not a BlairiteNot if you have a pair of balls, which Reform seem not to possess. Reform are moving to the center-left for no good reason. They won't be rewarded for it. The media and civil service are always going to hate them no matter what, so they might as well move to the Right. Most of the public are to the Right of them on immigration.
>>211670643A24 style yummy slow burn horror-inos
>>211670643Go full skibidi rot and make an Doctor Who series of 1-minute self-contained TikToks.
>>211673352>Reform are moving to the center-left for no good reasonIt's because they want to appeal to working-class Labour voters, which means promising bennies and nationalisation galore, and according to the polls it's working.
Kemi Badenoch is terrible at politics and the death of the centuries-old Tory Party but she's 100% right when she says that Reform's platform is closer to Corbynism than Conservatism.
>>211673634I meant moving to the left on immigration, race, and Islam. They don't need to, and they were doing fine in the polls beforehand when everyone assumed they were Right-Wing on those issues. It's like they're trying to chase the endorsement of the Guardian.
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>>211673705You will enjoy the plantation and your political class won't help
>>211647804>based? based on what?/tv/ memes have been uttered by the future UK PM
>>211644663 (OP)>Claims he used to watch Doctor Who before the BBC ruined it by making it WOKE.The second story in the whole series was a "Fascists bad" episode. So he has only ever watched An Unearthly Child.
Cookieboy is the savour of Doctor Who. Without him, the show would be over.
>>211675976Barely. It's about radiation and static electricity.
>>211644663 (OP)>Word on Gallifrey Base is that RTD has stepped down as showrunner Bbbbbbbased
>>211676229I hope we are getting the Kerblam guy, so the show can die for good.
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>>211676115And yet, it is what he, as someone who models himself on Moseley, would certainly term "WOKE" because it dares to criticise or lampoon them.
>>211675976>Fascists badFascism can be either left or right. You have those on the right who either want less government or dictatorships, and those on the left who want big government or anarchy. Shit's more complex than just left and right.
American fan. I have been loving S1 of the reboot, thanks to my love of Matt from the Leftovers. E8 is absolute kino, fitting for the church setting. He's incapable of being kino in this setting.
>>211676707*NOT being kino in this setting
>>211676707>rebootRevival. It continues from the old, rather than start from scratch.
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>>211676760Sure, but Christopher Eccleston is still my fav.
>>211675976Fascists are traditionally socialists and communist, as the with Nazi party, China, Mussolini and Russia, (and the UK currently) you ignorant faggot. You have no idea about history or politics or how it relates to fucking doctor who.
>>211675976The Daleks is about how a race of passive blond haired blue eyed ubermenschen learn how to become warriors and crush a race of snivelling scheming mutated untermenschen
>>211676707Kino Eccleston
If Doctor Who was indian he would be called Doctor_______
>>211677469struck off for sexual harassment
When I went for my morning jog around Cardiff Bay I saw Jo Martin in the back of a car heading down Glass Avenue from the roundabout. Seeing as Bad Wolf Studios is the only thing that way, she must have been doing something Doctor Who related.
That got me thinking... In order to not breach any agreement with Disney, the next "Doctor Who" episode will be made with them (or Amazon if they outbid, Disney as it sounds like they are trying to), but that Doesn't leave enough time to Film a "Doctor Who" Christmas Special with Billie Piper as the Doctor.
However, if they "create" a new Whoniverse spinoff paid for by BBC money, this is not in breach of anything and can function as the Christmas special on the BBC.
This Christmas we could be getting a Fugitive Doctor special instead of a Doctor Who special.
Makes sence how everyone is hinting that Piper won't be the next Doctor we see now, because she will make her proper debut next series but we have the Fugitive Doctor and Karvanista for Christmas.
>>211676995You really think Mosley was somehow not a fascist? Where did you learn that? The "University of Life"? Did you get a degree from there in it-stands-to-reason-ology from there? Clown.
>>211647804Don't forget appointing a Muslim chairman he only just met a few months prior after he donated 200k to the party.
>>211676229>Word on Gallifrey BaseThey may as well say "this is on our wishlist."
>>211677577That might be a good idea. Since we have an unknown amount of Doctors before Hartnell now, they could reboot the show as "Doctor who: Unchained" where he/she goes around the universe kicking ass and taking names, with a pinch of political intrigue.
>>211678891>That might be a good ideaMy ass it is.
>>211664484Business idea: Seth MacFarlane as new showrunner
>>211648345To me itโs when the casting feels unnatural. Some people just donโt visually match the characters theyโre supposed to be playing, not even because of their race but because they donโt physically embody any of the necessary traits. It starts to feel like theyโre included purely to tick a diversity box
>>211678829Itโs a fairly safe bet that heโs going imo.
> The showโs future is uncertain and it may be on ice for a few years. > Disney has almost surely checked out, which is embarrassing professionally for him. > Even if the BBC did decide to green light a few more specials on their own, heโd have to take a big pay cut. > Heโs already moved on to Channel 4 to do a new drama about gays.
Never liked the outfit they had for 8. Should've leaned more into him being the most conventionally handsome Doctor and gave him something more stylish and cool.
Why would Doctor Who do this
>>211681256What the fuck is this AIslop font?
>>211647356>>211647740You're actually leftists fyi
>>211680034The Orville was good so I'd be for it.
>>211680034>>211681347Americans are banned from being showrunner
They could have the best man to fix the franchise with J. Michael Straczynski but because he's a yank they're refusing to allow it
RTD especially has a seething hatred of Americans writing for Doctor Who
>>211680068Disney has distanced itself from marketing Who and they have their own financial troubles. But to be fair they never really marketed the show in the first place. Doctor Who was a C-List property at best. All their focus was on Marvel, Star Wars, and their live action remakes.
>>211677827Wow what a intelligent person u r
>>211681580Post clips of the 1990 season, intern
It was teased in magazines for fuck's sake
>>211681684>Disney has distanced itself from marketing Who and they have their own financial troubles. But to be fair they never really marketed the show in the first place. Doctor Who was a C-List property at best. All their focus was on Marvel, Star Wars, and their live action remakes.And yet, it still became their 5th most popular show and most popular among under 25s, not bad going from zero effort on their part and costing a fraction of shit nobody watched like Secret War, Echo, True Lies etc.. Considering they get Gold for peanuts compared to their own stuff and D+ is usually hurting for new original content, its highly unlikely Disney are looking to cancel the deal and they're probably waiting on how The War Between does to decide on if they want longer series or more spin offs with whatever extra investment they put in.
>>211681977They should just say yes now, otherwise we get these long gaps of nothing.
>>211676995>Fascists are traditionally socialists and communist, as the with Nazi party, China, Mussolini and Russia, (and the UK currently) you ignorant faggot. You have no idea about history or politics or how it relates to fucking doctor who.Nigel, of course would have nothing to do with Fascism, or Russians.
He certainly wouldn't have been "Knighted" in a ceremony organised by a Russian news channel that makes a mockery of our deceased Queen.
>>211681977There was a leak recently on Discord that showed Disney bought the show under the assumption it would be more adult focused, like the Capaldi era. RTD's insistence that Disney had no involvement in the creative process was true, because he was actively ignoring their input about tone and demographics. In hindsight their doubts were reasonable but he forged ahead with his kiddie-coded woke slop and we all know how that turned out.
>>211682482>and we all know how that turned out.>>211681977>And yet, it still became their 5th most popular show and most popular among under 25s, not bad going from zero effort on their part and costing a fraction of shit nobody watched like Secret War, Echo, True Lies etc..Pretty much better than Disney expected then.
>>211682605Your gimmick isn't getting over brother
>>211681738Are you in the wrong thread or something?
>>211682482>12 era>A.D.U.L.T.Do anons really
>>211680205Here's one intended for Shada.
>>211682702They were hoping for something along the lines of Stranger Things.
>>211682482>like the Capaldi eraSo the leak is totally fake then. Disney weren't looking for the show to be like Capaldi.
>>211677577RTD did this before with the first Sarah Jane Adventures, broadcasting the first episode a a Christmas/new years special.
It gives a good opportunity to give older Doctors new stories, especially considering that RTD said Bi-regeneration has happened retrospectively with all the Doctors now.
It would be like a Doctor Who version of Pokemon Chronicles and they could make adaptations of popular Big Finish stories.
>>211676246It will be Juno Dawson.
>wtf why am I standing behind a wog, a groomer and a foid?
>>211645353Chris Ryan > Dan Starkey
>>211683567Sensorites are coming back in the Christmas special with Jo Martin
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>>211683617Hope so. The Sensorites > almost every other story.
WHEN OH WHEN OH WHEN
will the Slitheen return?
None of Doctor Who is...
... funny.
... scary.
... clever.
... witty.
... exciting.
... interesting.
... worth any thought.
None of Doctor Who is good.
>>211683841Rumoured to be in the Paradise Towers sequel "Death in Paradise Towers" where the 16th Doctor meets Petrol for the first time.
>>211672555This, he sinks the Windrush and makes sure none survive
>>211683951Source. Oh, you don't actually have a source, do you?
>>211684050It was on a discord, so it must be true.
>>211684119Discord, it was a leak, just like the one that showed Disney bought the show under the assumption it would be more adult focused, like the Capaldi era.
>>211684174what discord? dm me 2 :)
>>211684174My sources say that Disney are now demanding for Capaldi to come back.
Smith announcement tomorrow 7pm.
>>211683132>they could make adaptations of popular Big Finish stories.Everyone's old as shit, bro. Fuck that.
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RIP Tom Baker
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"It must have been a bot of a shik."
im crying bros
>>211684251Just do them with new Doctors. Is the Fifth Doctor required for Spare Parts?
>>211684272FUCK OFF. They've done genesis of the cybercunts like four times. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.
oh my god 4chan is so awesome i can call people retards and they can do nothing about it.
>>211684341it's too much power for one man to wield
wtf subtitles misspelt raxicorcofallapatorious
>>211684251Baker 2, Davidson and both Withnail and I could all still be convincing. The Classic series had mainly the assistants as the legmen doing all the running around, anyway.
>>211684390>DavidsonKill yourself.
>>211684259>it's realim crying
>>211684405I agree he's called Moffett.
it's the end. but the moment has been prepared for.
>>211684824oh hahahahaha purpliss! rare and funny!
>>211676707i came at it from the other end so it was really weird to watch the Leftovers and get to see Doctor Who's cock
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Even as a staunch RTD fanboy, I have to admit this looks like shit.
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Even as a staunch RTD fanboy, I have to admit this looks like shit.
>>211685855unlimitedricepudding
>>211685474The last ever frame of NuWho
>>211685252Does that image make Traitors UK canon to the whonivese?
>>211683544lmao we really are in the era of "force unpopular incarnations into every piece of merch and shove Tom in to give it an air of legitimacy"
>>211683544kek she looks lost and drunk
>>211687154The most popular nu-Who Doctor, the most popular Classic Doctor and the black Doctor and female Doctor hits all of the demographics. When there are more female and black Doctors in the future it'll probably not end up only being Ncuti and Jodie.
>>211683544> Tennant Donโt you think he looks tired?
>>211686823NuWho ended about 2 series ago, we are in volume 3 now, do keep up.
>>211688174That was a plot point about his Doctor THOUGH. It was on purpose.
In the UK, Who was unfathomably massive in the 00s. The show was a cultural event that the whole nation was watching at the time, and Tennant was universally beloved. Tennant was everywhere. I remember gigantic displays of Doctor Who toys in every shop. Like Robot Wars or Big Brother, the British public doesn't remember it now.
>>211689811https://www.reddit.com/r/gallifrey/comments/1lbxl76/how_big_was_doctor_who_in_20082009_compared_to_now/
This is one of the worst shows for an episode I have ever seen. Very disappoint!
Reddit is a lot better than 4chan.
>>211689398>mfw I see a non-trans child in my vicinity
>>211690079nobody knew doctor who in the states before smith
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>>211690241
ohmygod Greenis! LOL. Mad props!
>>211687154>how do we reach the kids?>pictures of Tom baker, from 50 years agoI mean, it might work. They'd probably like him more than the last two.
>>211689811Eastenders is still huge.
>>211690241I heard that deep in the convention circles there were always who fans
>>211689398>certain "fans": BRING TENNANT BACK BRING TENNANT BACK BRING TENNANT BACK>they bring tennant back>it's thisthat will never fail to make me piss my pants laughing
>>211690422i just find it funnier because they way they USED to do this was with Tennant and 10, but now 14 is gay and no one likes him so they have to break out the emergency Tom Baker likeness.
>>211690477I think they have completely salted the earth, as far as young boys are concerned. It very much is "that thing your weird lesbian aunt likes" now.
Imagine the intensity of that echo chamber at Bad Wolf, that no one saw this coming.
>>211690649the same thing happened to Star Wars. i've heard more than one anecdote of middle school teachers overhearing boys in their class talk about how they think Star Wars is a girl's franchise. and it's no surprise when every story is about how men are either incompetent or evil and need women to teach them how to x.
>>211690814It's also why they all just want to be black. Only black people are allowed to be masculine on TV.
Day four of infiltrating r/Gallifrey
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>>211691420>Only black people are allowed to be masculine on TV.you have a very interesting idea of what masculinity is
>>211691538What's your Masterplan?
>>211675976>being against ww2 germany is the same as a gay black doctor, indian companion, and trans rights storylineswhen will you let this meme die
>>211689811>tennant and who were everywhere>source: i was in a toyshopidk anon could it not just be that you were a child and your perception was skewed by that?
>>211690649Making the Doctor a woman for absolutely no other reason than โitโs about time!โ (even going as far as to make this a tagline for S11) essentially killed the show by alienating a core demographic. Those viewers arenโt coming back, because theyโve doubled down for long enough that perceptions about the show have stuck.
>>211696643don't forget that the "it's about time" tagline was premiered in a digital ad where Jodie "breaks" a CGI glass ceiling.
>>211696643>alienating a core demographicThe "core demographic" were tumblr tweens who it didn't alienate one bit.
The people who stopped watching were the normal families who had watched it during Tennant and to a lesser degree Smith.
The revived show has had some decent episodes (Boom, 73 Yards) but it has consistently aired absolute shit as the first episode which had normal people turn off.
Tennant's first episode was "remember the meep's pronouns!/male presenting timelord could never understand", Ncuti's was a fucking gay musical, his first real episode was about babies and farting spaceships. Those were supposed to be jumping on points for normal people and instead it just scared them away harder.
Compare it to S1 where the first episode was a chavette's alarm going off even though she'd already been sacked from her job so there was no need to get up. That was relatable. That was kitchen sink. NORMAL FUCKING PEOPLE could watch that in a way they can't watch a gay nigger at a song contest.
What does "a male presenting" timelord even mean? I try to keep up with the various meme gender ideologies but I don't understand it. Wouldn't presenting as male mean he himself was not male? You wouldn't say "human presenting", because that's just what we are.
>>211696994>The "core demographic" were tumblr tweens who it didn't alienate one bitIt did though. They wanted a boyfriend Doctor Who not a sterile friend who happens to be a girl (it's why Ncuti didn't work either). It's always why so many of them appreciate Capaldi now, because they are older and can picture him as their boyfriend now
>>211697056Presenting as a man means that you're identifying as a man.
>>211697400So in this scenario a FtM would also be too stupid to understand?
>>211697056it's just more evasive language created to skirt around biology. A woman and a troon are both "female presenting", even if one of them isn't.
>>211697400I thought it just meant you looked like one?
Who is the GOAT Classic Doctor Who?
>>211697460FtM would also be male presenting, I think.
>>211697500I think it's meant to be that you're specifically trying to look a man or woman but I imagine unless you're doing drag it's mostly to do with what you identify as unless you're hiding if you're a tranny.
>>211697140Fair enough. Jodie still could have been their bitchy stacey bossgirl instead of quirk chungus cbeebies presenter.
My point is they killed the show for the normal nuclear family demographic, which is the vast majority of the BBC licence fee payers.
>>211697618Troughton. No contest. Hartnell is fun to watch and endearing as hell but Troughton is on another fucking level. The show became Doctor Who as we know it under his tenure, he has the greatest Dalek and Cybermen stories ever made and Jamie. Victoria is as cute and naive as can be while Zoe makes my penis throb
>>211698184>the greatest Dalek and Cybermen stories ever madeThat's The Daleks and Tenth Planet.
Or genesis and world enough and time if you're talking later, but I presume you mean 60s who
>>211698262Power and Evil throw the original dalek story in the dump. Dr. Who and the Daleks is far more entertaining and bearable to watch than the original serial is. Tomb is way better than the Tenth Planet because they had a stroke of genius combining the Cybermen and Ancient Egypt.
>inb4 but le mondasian design
>>211698368>combining the Cybermen and Ancient Egyptqrd?
>>211698262Victory of the Daleks > Genesis of the Daleks
Rise of the Cybermen > The Tenth Planet
>>211698177Maybe if writing wasn't so anemic, it could've been better. I'd settle for Samantha Carter Doctor or something.
But nobody knows how to write competent women anymore.
>>211698146>>211698184>2 and 7It's weird that they've not done wacky but sneaky manlet impish Doctor again, when it clearly works
>>211698410>Tombs holding the 'Mummies'>Various chambers and puzzles to ward off intruders (in this case, meant to be solved by only the most intelligent so they can be suitable conversion candidates)>Mummies are awoken from their tombs ala some kind of King Tut curse>Explorers are threatened by the hulking beasts that they will become like them and be stuck in their tombs>Heroes must seal the awoken Mummies back into their tombs>The tomb doors are shut, preventing them from ever getting out
>>211698410>Egypt>TombFigure it out
>>211698496Tennant and Smith killed that idea forever unfortunately. Women would not accept such a Doctor ever again
>>211698368>>inb4 but le mondasian designHow is this not a valid argument?
The whole point of cybermen that separates them from generic robots is the fact they're augmented humans. The fact literally every story after Tenth Planet has had their design be generic robots shows how woefully they've been misused.
Tomb of the Cybermen > Prometheus
>>211648946Who si Cookieboy and why does he allow shitty unofficial fanfics on the wiki?
I never got with cybermen at what stage the general public would accept being converted into them. The whole idea presupposes people would at some point unanimously say they have a few spare parts so they may as well just fully upgrade now. It wouldn't happen like that.
>>211649020>Farage has realises that and has decided he values getting invited to fancy dinners more than actually fixing the country.Who can blame him. The country's a lost cause, might as well get busy noshing while the ship sinks.
>>211697618I love the first eight Doctors so I find it really fucking hard to decide.
>>211698772I'll give it to you that the Mondasian design is really good and the perfect visual representation of what the Cybermen are but aside from introducing them and the ideas behind them, they do very little Cybermen-ish things aside from saying that people are going to be made like them. How many other Who monsters took over a base and threatened to use whatever weapon of mass destruction was there for their own game?
At least with Tomb, which has the (far superior) Telosian design, you actually see Toberman have his arm replaced. The threat of conversion is far more prominent and apparent, the reason the Cybermen are in a tomb at all is because their race was dying and they are looking to survive.
>We are looking for the last surviving remains of the Cybermen.The captain literally states that's what they're there for. The Cybermen, even after augmenting themselves beyond their Mondasian conversions, are dying, and their tombs are their last resort.
>>211698889The idea is that with each upgrade you care less so you gradually ease into it until you don't have enough fleshy parts to care about fleshy parts. I think the original writers were afraid of pacemakers or something.
>>211673352The point of reform is to prevent an actual right wing party, the goal is to kick the can down the road. If the existing power structures do fail, it's fine, Farage is a puppet too. And light right-wing talking points might save him if it all kicks off.
Without Reform, you have the potential of a grassroots party without ties to Israel, which is the worst case scenario for the bankers.
>>211698772Mondasian is good for a specific kind of Cyberman origin, but the more robotic look is also suitable as something that Cybermen would upgrade to with time, or as something in a different origin like Lumic's Cybusmen being designed not as a last ditch hope by humanity, but as a last ditch hope by a tech billionaire who designed it like he designs his products.
>>211696994nope. Common misconception. The Tumblr fans were a very loud, very online sector of the fanbase. The "core" fanbase was young British boys, and adults who once were those boys. Always has been.