This guy fucked me up, couldnt sleep for weeks

least ugly filipino

>>211688461
??

I love star trek, but I hate that there's actually gods in the series yet everything remains oddly atheistic
>Q
>Nagilum
>The fucking greek gods in TOS
>That old dude that lives with his made up old wife

>>211688430 (OP)
Truly one of the special effects of all time

>>211690029
It’s like a weird hierarchy of gods though. Like they have godlike powers within their purviews or whatever but it’s not clear that they’re not subordinate to something bigger. Could Q destroy the entire universe or make a new one from scratch? I don’t know

>>211690124
do you mean john de lancie Q or THE Q because we see plenty of times that "our Q" is very much beholden to a set of guidelines and even downright explicit rules and they punish him often

>>211688430 (OP)
Remember a 23rd century Federation AI was eventually able to wipe out this guy, the Q Continuum, and the species of the dude who committed insta-genocide, after ingesting training data from an old cybernetic meatball in space

>>211690234
Anything that happens in Voyager is not Q canon

>>211690124
>it’s not clear that they’re not subordinate to something bigger
how does that prevent them from being gods

>>211690463
what are you talking about, he LOSES his powers and becomes MORTAL in TNG because he kept fucking around

>>211690029
Nah the beyond human understanding beings are the best aliens in Star Trek. Nagilum is my favorite of them.

>>211690029
Every "god/God" they meet turns out to be a super-advanced alien that gets sad and goes away after they own him with facts and logic.

>>211690538
So?
Jesus got killed by like, a dude with a spear anon
That's not outside the purview of the god mythos

>>211690124
In TNG/VOY/DS9, Q's power is kind of limited. He was afraid of Guinan for some reason, so Q isn't *really* immortal, or else he wouldn't be afraid.
It isn't even apparent that Q has any control of time whatsoever (other than nuTrek Picard S2 bullshit that isn't canon.) In the S6E15: Tapestry, Q doesn't *really* alter time to send Picard back. Its really just some dream shit in Picard's head while he's dying. It isn't even apparent that it was really Q in Picard's head. Picard could have just been dreaming the whole fucking thing, even Q.
If anything, Q's only real power is the ability to move shit around and make *seemingly* real people/objects appear out of thin air. We see no powers other than that.

>>211690509
It depends on your definition of what constitutes a god or if there is a singular god that has dominion over the universe as a whole, and if that’s even the top of the heap. Demiurges and pleromas and what have you. Metaphysics is a cluster fuck

>>211690670
holy fucking shit you guys are morons

>>211690670
"so"? you asked "could Q destroy/remake the universe" you moron, that's my rebuttal - no, probably not, because he's beholden to rules. why did you think i was talking to you? jesus fucking christ

>>211688430 (OP)
Zorson?

>>211690538
I really wish that ep ended hinting that the depowerering and the Calamarain might have been all an act, just another test of Picard and the crew

>>211690700
>He was afraid of Guinan
That's what Guinanfags would want you to believe, and it's a lie that's repeated in trek thread (possibly by Guinan's shills)
If you watch the scene (Guinanfags don't want you to)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ed1Q8gLLvXc
You'll see that Q is not afraid of Guinan, but rather confronts her like Saint George confronting the Dragon, seeing past Guinan's illusions and even a moment before giving her a "departure" (final blow)
But sure sure, let's play the Guinanfags little recurring game of "Q was afraid!"

>>211690764
Your argument was "Q was made mortal!" and my Jesus analogy was a perfect counterargument for this direct line of quotes and replies. I don't care what you said to other people in other posts and how indirectly affect this reasoning, I'm adressing your words directly.
Get rekd nigger

>>211690991
He ran away when Sisko stood up to him. Is Q afraid of space negros?

>>211691080
Q actually relaxed, he got complacent having dealt with Picard.

>>211690991
You make a compelling argument. My point still stands that Q can't do much else besides just move shit around. He even offers to Picard to essentially 'move her off the ship' instead of vaporize her or something.

Erm, actually the longest a person can go without sleeping is eleven days, so I am disinclined to believe that you "didn't sleep for weeks"

>>211691137
At least he could turn his son into an amoeba, maybe that's the next step in movement-induced evolution after salamander

>>211690768
kek