Now that it's been 17 years and the dust has settled can we agree Borat was a terrible movie.

Why didn't we see it then?

It was hip to be a holier than thou lefty then, and see flyover as beneath them. His caricature of them must've helped obama

>>211706372 (OP)
>Why didn't we see it then?
Because you were 10 at the time and didn't know any better. Just like everyone else who liked that trash. It's the same reason the Borat enjoying demo all felt like Cohen "fell off" as time went on despite him doing the same schtick for the following two decades and Bruno legitimately being a far superior execution of the concept. It's not that Borat or any of Cohen's movies aged poorly, you just grew up.

>>211706372 (OP)
Anyone who unironically uses the term “mean spirited” as a critique of something is such a tremendously insufferable faggot. Borat is still just as fun and funny but more so now in a ‘you had to be there’ sense wherein I can see it not translating well to the hyper-sensitive zoomer audience that finds every reason to take offense at everything and says unbelievably gay shit like “comedy that punches down is problematic”

>>211706623
Oi vey

>>211706372 (OP)
It was zionist propaganda, Cohen is now going to interviews crying about muh antisemitism or something

borat was more about the hype and buildup than the movie, the movie was blah

Real talk: Ali G in Da House is his best movie

>>211706372 (OP)
I did. I always hated sacha baron cohens works. All of them are just deceitful and malicious

>>211706372 (OP)
I thought he was funny until someone made a jew joke and he just lost it. He exposed himself as someone who can dish it but can't take it.

>>211706731
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_CgTl2idcI
So actually good though. Why did people not like this?

>>211706731
>>211707184
without the prank gimmick he’s just doing the jewish version of madea comedies

>>211707524
how so?

>>211707629
corny humor, silly costumes, wacky voice

>>211707644
it's probably funnier if you've actually met these people.

Don't care what whiney pussy gen z fags think. Borat funny, Ali G funny, racist jokes funny, sexism funny, punching down HILARIOUS. Period. End of story. Over and out. Fin.

>>211706825
>>211707524
>>211706693
Yes Ivan we know you made this to cry about him being jewish.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbaGry1F_VU

Unironically agree. I was really tired of the joke by the time the sweet old people give him a room for a night and he's just being a nuisance.

>>211707887
No I think borat and ali g show is funny, when he’s not acting like that to real people it’s corny

>>211706589
He did Bruno and I think everyone saw him for the weird rat faggot he is in real life to even be that faggy and annoying and unfunny in a movie

Borat was actually pretty funny, but manipulative and disingenuous in its "message"

>>211706639
I don’t think you actually understand the whole concept behind the jew memes do you kek

>>211706372 (OP)
>conservative comedians "actually making fun of people is le bad"
we've gone full circle on "punching down"

>>211707887

White people are le bad.
Riveting stuff, Cohen.

>>211708190
What Sasha does is basically slander, tbf
He goes out of his way to "prove people are bigoted" by being incredibly gross and offensive around them, and getting them to react.

>>211708250
woah, hasidim but i dont believe them

>>211706478
You brain is fucken broken
The whole point of Borat is to show how decent and patient US people are. Lots of places worldwide you'd get shot or stabbed acting like a turkey.
It pokes a hoke in the idea that Americans are hostile and violent. He was sleeping on the steps of a church and people just went about their days, not out of fear, but a general willingness to let people be.
Once again, angry/pol/cards miss the point because it involves humor and empathy. BORt is a panegyric to the USA.

>>211708563
okay, but he has literally said in the past that the point of the character is to bring people's racism to the surface.

>>211708364
>"NO YOU CANT MAKE FUN OF PEOPLE THATS SLANDER!"

This song lives in my head rent free

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb3IMTJjzfo

>>211708720
If I walked up to you in a Nazi uniform, said a load of strange uncomfortable things, stuck a camera in your face, waited for you to tell me to fuck off, and then put it on TV and told everyone you hate white people, I would have just produced a Sasha Baron Cohen joint.

>>211706372 (OP)
Borat was very funny
Borat 2 was awful

When you realize it's an Israeli pro-globalisf psyop it all makes a lot more sense but isn't funny at all.

Epstein files?

>>211708754
THROW THE JEW DOWN THE WELL
>SO MY COUNTRY CAN BE FREE

My wife fucking loves that song

>>211706372 (OP)
All those Sasha Baran Cohen movies exist to mock and humiliate people he percieves as enemies of jews.
>Ali G (British Pakistanis)
>Borat (Cossacks)
>Borat 2 (Red state americans)
>Bruno (Austrians)
They're a kind of ethno-narcissitic propoganda where all his 'enemies' are evil and retarded

>>211706623
>jew makes fun of, lies to, harrasses and swindles everyone he meets

>oey gevalt goyim it was just a joke

kill yourself my dude.

>>211708693
the point of the character is to allow him to be racist and get away with it.

It must blow zoom zooms minds that all the old comedies back in the day that said faggot, nigger, homo, that made fun of race, trannies were actually made by liberals. But it wasn't done with malaice and that's where the disconnect comes from

>>211708190
>im going to prove these white people are bigots
>by taking advantage of their tolerance and social psychology and tricking them into racism because ive convienced them thats what they need to temporarily do to get along with me
>i will further embolden them by telling them out right lies about my country and then, after getting them drunk, tricking them into singing a song that is self incriminating thats also a metaphor for what im literally doing but nobody is allowed to call me out on it because im the good guy and they are the bad guy


throw the jew down the well is amazing. Jews would poison the wells of their enemies by throwing dead bodies into the well to contaminate it and spread disesase. To throw a jew down the well is to become the jew, doing the activity the jews claim they didnt do/didnt happen. No anti-semite would ever poison their own water supply by dumping a dead body, jewish or otherwise, into their own water supply.

>on my board there is problem

>>211709661
And that problem is the troon

>>211706372 (OP)
It was a good act, to be fair.
Act as a lesser, subservient, there to learn, a naif, throw enough rope out and let the right wing Americans hang themselves.
It also brought out the best in them, they were seen trying to buddy up and accept him and draw him into the fold.
Like a Louis Theroux doc, but less subtle.
It worked for a while, and Peter Baynham can write gold, but Baron Cohen's shtick was wearing thin even towards the end of the 11'oclock show. They did well to wring what they got out of it afterwards, but I agree, they missed their stop.

>>211706372 (OP)
>>211708693
I always thought the funny thing about his movies were the outrageous things his characters did and that people acted extremely patiently and nice to him.

People usually treated Bruno and Borat with kindness and they had to go extreme for people to get mad with them.

How did he expect people in the crowd in the OJ talk show skit? Did he expect the crowd to be OK with the shit he did?

>>211706372 (OP)
Blue check mark is an invalid opinion.

>>211706372 (OP)

>>211706372 (OP)
The point of the movie was
>look at these Americans! welcoming in an EEEEVVVVILLLL antisemite racist into their number! They must be racist as well!
But the reality is
>Americans are nice, welcoming, and don't ask questions even when they should

>>211706372 (OP)
Jew mocks non Jews, the movie

>>211710280
so what?

>>211707524
LMAO

>>211707817
>I'm not going to think about the topic of discussion and instead declare myself superior

>>211708563
I'm pretty sure you're the only one who's ever interpreted it like that

>>211710280
More like mocks Arab, but calls him a Kazakstani, because there's enough wiggle room there that you could say he was a white guy, if people called the movie racist.

He did the same thing with Ali G. The character's full name is Allister Graham, which means there's ambiguity as to whether he's a Pakistani, or a wigger.

>>211710985
That wasn't the only person he mocked. What a pointless, pedantic post.

>>211707184
>>211707908
I really should rewatch Ali G, it has been years.

>>211711165
Where did I say that?
Borat is broadly supposed to come off as a strange foreign guy from the middle east. The fact that Kazahkstan is in eastern Europe, but is a country no one really knows anything about, was the get out of jail free card.

>>211710280
I laughed pretty hard at this part
>Dont touch me with your Jew venom!

>>211711324
99% of kazakhstan is in asia.

it wasn't terrible but it was really overrated. I didn't bother watching the sequel. Ali G is by far the best thing he's done

>>211711422
Some of them are basically Russians. It's vague and ambiguous enough that you can make fun of them, without being called outright racist. That's the gambit.

>>211707184
It's white people saying the "n-word". I'm sorry, but this is super not okay, and a gets a mighty YIKES from me.

>>211708563
>The whole point of Borat is to show how decent and patient US people are.
Why would a Jew want to do that?

>>211711642
Bilbo, of all people...

Regardless of whatever message it was trying to tell, I just found the pranks to be amusing. Never watched the sequel, because everything I heard made it sound like it came across less as a comedy and more as a hitpiece.

>>211708563
embarassing ameritard cope

>the libtard golem turning against its master
You love to see it.

>>211708563
This is some next level cope, what the fuck

>>211706372 (OP)
It's some of the most destructive awful Jewish slop ever made.

>>211708563
Um sweaty, this is NOT media literate.

((Sacha)) Is so deep in the closet, he's finding baby pictures. Every movie he is in has some form of gay sex in it. Bruno, Borat, Ali G - even movies he has a guest role in has him engaging in some form of faggotry (Talladega Nights).

Bruno was one of the most uncomfortable experiences I've ever had in theaters. It was a gay romance movie disguised as a comedy. It's hard to believe he thinks its funny at this point, I think the guy is a faggot and just enjoys doing his part of normalizing sodomy to the general audience.

His filmmaking psychology intersects with the old trope of "guy that claims he watches porn for the plot". Sacha claims he's making a comedy, but in all reality, it's just an excuse for him to be a queer.

>>211712591
What actual evidence is there that he's gay

>>211709867
he's a fucking rat, the point of his movies is the same as all the other fucking rats, "everyone who isn't a rat is less than human, why aren't you laughing?"

>>211712591
>Every movie he is in has some form of gay sex in it
It's all part of the American trolling.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCONlU6dil0

>>211712728
My nigger, literally watch any of the movies I gave examples of. No straight man in his adult years should be that comfortable with pretending to have gay sex or making out with dudes.

>>211709032
I was so in love with isla when she was on home and away. Dropped immediately when I found out she married this cunt. Disgusting.

>>211706589
I was 18 and tons of people older than me were quoting it at work. I was one of the last ones to see it just so I could be in on the joke.

>>211712919
>I...I was just pretending to make-out with Will Ferrell hahaha.

>>211712591
I saw it in theaters opening day with my mom. The little dude with the magnum of champagne up his ass had us laughing.

>>211706372 (OP)
>Why is this subversive jew pretending to be an arab mocking Christians

>>211706372 (OP)
>Nooooo!! How dare you make fun of le heckin amerishart-erinos??
>Only we can make of everyone else!!! Reeeeeeeee
Americunts are so pathetic. LMFAO

>>211706372 (OP)
Borat 2 is better

>>211708563
Don't you people have Iranian children to blow up?

best scene of all time is when he's fighting his fat manager naked.

>>211717198
Of all time. Apocalypse Now, Saving Private Ryan, No Country for Old Men, all TRASH compared to Sacha Baren Cohen fighting a fat guy.

>>211715424
The Eye-rainians do a good job of that themselves.

Other than the rodeo guy and arguably the frat dudes I don’t recall anyone coming off bad in Borat

it's a fine movie until the lame ending with the fake kidnapping attempt

>>211706372 (OP)
This. It was mean spirited, Satanic, and globalist.

>>211706372 (OP)
Goloshchyokin, a Jewish Bolshevik, starved millions of Kazakh people to death.

Borat is an intensely evil movie, akin to making a film about a retarded poor Palestinian man for a Jewish audience. Cohen's father founded hillel UK, an open borders for Europe Jewish organisation that takes millions from soros and the Rothschild family.

>>211718945
Sabotaged Ron Paul's run, I think? Tried humiliating Trump's lawyer too lmao

>>211719146
You will never get this! You will never get this!

>>211707887
everybody hates your ilk, not just vatniks.

>>211719283
That’s the sequel

>>211706623
mean spirited post

>>211706372 (OP)
Once you know about Jews and understand that he's trying to make Arabs look bad while simultaneously making white Americans look racist, it does ruin it a bit. That being said, I still think it's funny.

>>211706372 (OP)
Some faggot with an anime avatar "doesn't approve". lol

>>211706478
>>211708563
Both partly correct.
The point of the movie was for the kike acting and producing it to make money by showing how dumb and terrible anti-semitic eastern europeans are and how dumb and terrible Christian flyovers are and how smart and clever and funny and offbeat and in touch he was.
It didn't just age poorly, it was 95% non-humor at the time and you were all retarded for being obsessed with it, even as kids.

>>211708364
Wow, I never thought I'd see anyone on this website be on that side of the argument. Strange times we're living in.

>>211707887
At this point I think the Ivan schizo posters are really just dishonest (You) farmers.

>>211708799
I do believe you would wear a Nazi uniform.

>>211722647
There's no "side" here. That's literally what he does, and has admitted to doing in the past.

Literally his defense at the time was that Borat wasn't a racist stereotype, because the point of the movie was to expose racism, not endorse it. I remember him saying this stuff.

>>211710461
People here are schizo conspiratards who think Jews are bad. They will always make sure and point out when an actor has Jewish blood. They think it means that actor rules the world and gets extra money for being a Jew.

lol, a lot of ignorance migrated here over the last decade.

>>211706372 (OP)
It was a movie for high school boys brag about having watched to pretend to have adult humour because they didn't know any better.

>>211722753
Literally?

>>211722796
yes

normally, a critical thread about a showbiz jew and the seething malice that he expresses towards other ethnic groups would get jidf spammed to hell and eventually deleted. But I think some Israeli center that was running those operations got bombed. You have the Iranians to thank for this

>>211722811
Well now I take you seriously. Without that word added into your post twice I'd have just disregarded the opinion entirely.

>>211722843

>>211722864
>>>reddit

>>211708250
Are these part of a skit. Why are there so many webms of hasidic jews doing absolutely bizarre things like this?

>>211722864
>I cannot address any of the arguments you make so I will instead focus on one word in your post and mock that

>>211722779
I think you made all that up in your head because you don't really understand the critiques of jewish power

>>211722879
OK, here's an example of an average thread that's critical of Sacha Baron Cohen
https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/211485648/#211486094

Borat was a funny movie
>muh mean spirited
Fuck off you soft faggots

Id say its a case of "you had to be there" but I didn't really get the appeal back then, people would just quote it constantly and I finally watched it and it was ok but I didnt get the hype

>>211706372 (OP)
God Zoomers are such whiny faggots. Will they never stop bitching about movies from the 90s/00s offending them in some way?

>>211723033
That's not the argument. Ren and Stimpy is "mean spirited". Borat is essentially a hateful work of slander. The whole point is to shine a light on real people who exist in the world out there, and try to make them look bad through misrepresentation.

>>211706372 (OP)
It really is funny how it shows how fucking nice white Americans are.

>>211722918
It's ridiculous bullshit. Even if there were any truth to it it wouldn't involve the average Jewish person. You're brainwashed. And what's sadder is that you care so much and instead of celebrating movies you come here with your crazy paranoid lies. Television and films is just the way you spread your hatred. But that's really what you're here for. You're here to discuss your Nazi poltard topics.

>>211723260
It's not misrepresentation. And what dog do you even have in this fight? Did your distant removed cousin have to answer for some "Southern hospitality" faux pas or something? lol

This is retarded. This whole thread.

>Borat should be reappraised and deemed offensive, but not for reasons you'd have ever dreamed of; because Borat is 'hatefully slandering' good Christian Whites through manipulation.

LOLOL

>>211722918
There are no legitimate critiques, its all schizophrenic nonsense
Try having an argument about literally anything on /pol/ and you will get a barrage of people calling you a kike

>>211706478
He did good then. You see what our country has been turned into by flyover voters

>>211723658
this

>>211719146
You'll be in prison one day soon. Don't forget that.

>>211723687
>>211723658
Nice try rabbi

>>211723640
>what dog do I have in this fight
The man has spent his entire career spreading the same message: ordinary people are terrible and racist.
You figure out what dog I have in this fight.

>>211723531
why should I listen to you? You can't even articulate what exactly people critical of jewish power are saying? Everything you've said up until now consists of straw-mans and ad hominem psychoanalytical projection - calling me brainwashed, paranoid, a hater. You're also doing a NAXALT (Not All X Are Like That), which is a basic bitch cope from 2015 that dismisses the reality on the ground for some meaningless, non-political, non-social abstract

>>211723260
who fucking cares, it's funny

>>211723768
Sasha Baron Cohen is directly responsible for every rape that happened because police were afraid of "looking racist". That's all I'm going to say to that.

>>211723753
>you're doing a heckin [acronym I just made up to sound cool] my guy!

How come he never went into Muslim or black areas and acted stupid?

>>211723803
No, Muslims are responsible for that. But you think Muslims are based, don't you? Most /pol/tards seem to these days.

>>211723531
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/SRRiOOSYHQ4

>>211723863
You'll never get it. You need a considerably higher IQ.

>>211706372 (OP)
I saw it in theaters, most people walked out. There was only like a dozen people to begin with.

>>211723658
>its all schizophrenic nonsense
>It's ridiculous bullshit
>>211723708
>You'll be in prison one day soon
Lol, which one is it? Holocaust didn't happen btw.

How come no one ever wonders why he slandered Khazakhstan so badly? Filmed it in Romania with a bunch of gypsies in a shithole slum then said that's what Kazakhstan, a completely different country full of asian people looks like. Then he made them rabidly anti Jew and anti gypsy even though kazakhstan never even had those. Then it makes them out to be dumb, retarded, poor, covered in shit, etc. What the fuck was his problem?

>>211706372 (OP)
I didn't see it then. I haven't seen it now. I'll never have any interest in seeing it.

>>211709682
throw the troon down the well, it has a good ring to it

>>211723814
sorry, I didn't realize using an acronym automatically makes your entire argument incorrect.

>>211723720
No one thinks that but you. You're wrong about it and you're here spreading it anyway. You're racist.

>>211723753
You're wasting your life. Jewish people don't have anything over you or affect your life in any way. Pretty sad how you live.

>>211723889
I'm not watching youtube shorts, zoomer faggot schizo.

>>211706372 (OP)
i remember basedfacing in shock at le nazis singing the well song as a little kid
now i find those rednecks wholesome as fuck

>>211724318
>sad
>wasting your life
you know nothing about me. You just can't tackle the critiques of jewish power so you do psychoanalysis as if you know me personally - ON AN ANONYMOUS FUCKING IMAGEBOARD

>>211707184
Hey that’s the hobbit guy

>>211724318
>Own every corporation
>Own every financial institution
>Own every functional media apparatus
>Promote Feminism
>Promote Anti-White Ideology
>Promote Mass-migration
>Poison you with fluoride
>Poison you with mercury
>Poison you with GMOs
>Mock you and insult you all the while
Yeah, they're great. Nothing but love for the Chosen.

>>211724165
In his own words "because it's a country no one really knows anything about". Borat isn't really a Kazakh, he just had to be from somewhere that felt foreign and alien, without being one of those down there countries (because that would be skirting close to brownface).

>>211724288
Sasha is a considerably bigger racist that I'll ever be. I never produced a piece of work specifically to smear a group of people. I'd consider that below the belt.

>>211719283
The Ron Paul part was in Bruno

>>211724569
Jews are the most racist people on the planet. Their entire fucking religion teaches that everyone besides them is human cattle that existed to be sacrificed, exploited, and enslaved.

>>211706372 (OP)
Part of the joke of it is that Borat himself is a massive twat full of his own prejudices but seeing and meeting these nicer people actually change him and makes him a better person. The humour when he meets a leftie is seeing them trying to be nice and kind to him despite the fact he is a twat and they come off quite well.

But speaking about wells, the film also neatly highlights how dumb crowds can get, just joining in with stuff they might not agree with or feel that strongly about because they think it will make them part of the crowd. At the time the film was made few people really gave that much of a shit about transport yet they all sang about throwing it down a well. These were people who probably knew bus drivers or highway maintenance workers and yet here they are singing about throwing then down wells.

>>211723803
>every rape that happened because police were afraid of "looking racist"

It wasn't that they were afraid of looking racist its that most police are afraid of being targeted by organised criminal gangs and the other ones are too bone idle or lazy to tackle a massive operation like that. Its the same with drugs gangs and people traffickers, or are getting bribed to look the other way.

If they can find an excuse to kick something like that into the long grass they will. "oh, but people might say we're racist.", "The girls are retarded and working class, they probably like the attention and extra money." , "We would do something about the people smugglers, but the Tory government told us to only arrest the illegal migrants, not both because they fund the tory party."

Look at how bad that OCG got in Liverpool who were acting with impunity; literally gunning people down in the streets like it was America or some other shithole country. Then a little girl got killed when a hitman ran into her house and another hitman following him decided to just spray everywhere with bullets. Couldn't ignore them anymore then and they all got arrested.

Fuck all to do with racism, thats just a convenient excuse for why they the police didn't do their job, not least because not all the gangs or gang members are ethnics.

>>211722533
Kek. It's always some twitter troon with an anime profile pic. 10 bucks says it's some retarded beaner as well.