Why is alcoholism so often romanticized or even glorified in media?

jews

>>211754104 (OP)
because it's awesome

>>211754178
Give it time. None of us really like it. The lack of sleep is unbearable.

There's something empowering about self destruction. You'd know that if you got to a point where you lost hope in your path and decided to get fucked up all the time and see where it leads

>>211754358
How can alcoholism possibly cause a lack of sleep? I find myself falling asleep almost as soon as I'm done with work.

>>211754384
What's the power though? Seems like you're just making your already bad situation worse?

>>211756804
My butthole tolerates pain when i drink (don't ask me how I figured that out)

match it up with 12 step AA programs weaving in + out of public convo. Alcoholism is normalized too, a generational thing when things are privately medicated away

>>211754104 (OP)
lots of writers are alcoholics. Cause sitting around drinking and writing can work out for them. Also, being an alcoholic is pretty fun.

>>211756803
You clearly haven't been drinking frequently for long enough

Drinking is stupid like smoking you just get rebound anxiety and sleeplessness until you are dependent on it to keep you going but your always miserable in between drinks

jews own the media and are behind the alcohol trade

>>211759402
>You clearly haven't been drinking frequently for long enough
I'm trying brother.

>>211754104 (OP)

I'm honestly having a hard time thinking of ashow or movie that romanticizes it. I'm not talking about guzzle-a-drink-because-of-awkwardness-or-misery like your pic, I'm talking about drinking first thing in the morning every day to stop the shakes and stay alive.

>>211754104 (OP)
It's realistic to paint the good and the bad. Some people are bumbling fuck up alchies while some people wear it well

>>211756803

You may be unconscious or sleepy but you're not getting healthy, uninterrupted deep sleep. In time, it will make you psychotic.

Alcoholism is for people who don't have a personality

>>211756803
It actually fucks with your normal sleep cycle. Instead of your brain flushing out all the chemicals it's supposed to while you sleep it just filters the booze, you're not actually sleeping your just sedated. It'll catch up with you the more you drink. You're probably sleeping for a little bit after it wears off. Wait till you're so drunk it takes 15 hours to have a bac of zero. You'll "rest" those 15 hours but you won't get any sleep.

>>211760672
I think churchill was pretty famous for having a big personality

is this the new thread?

>>211760782
Churchill was responsible for killing 50 million Europeans and destroying the most powerful empire in human history. I'd drink myself to death too.

>>211761074
>Churchill was responsible for killing 50 million Europeans
hitler has that grand honor, let's not get it confused.

>>211754104 (OP)
Acohol brands that fund most movies just like sigaret companies does

Pushing drugs is lucrative.

>>211761188
>Declares war on Germany despite multiple reassurances that Britain would be considered an ally
>Had a well-documented, almost psychotic hatred throughout his life
>Transferred most of Britain's wealth to America in exchange for... nothing
>Paved the road for decolonization and mass migration into Britain
>Fed 1.2 million British men into a meat grinder for nothing
>Essentially annihilated Britain's aristocracy during WWI, finished the job in WWII

No one did more to destroy the British Empire than Churchill

>>211756803
It's a heavy alcoholic thing, you wouldn't get it

>>211761417
*psychotic hatred of Germans

>>211759770
Thanks for the insightful analysis. If only alcoholics were privy to this revelation, things would be different

>>211756804
why do you care, some people like drinking. are you the fun police or what faggot?

>>211756803
your body recognizes the sedative effects of alcohol, and boosts your blood sugar when drinking to counter it
if you drink often enough it becomes an issue because your body constantly thinks it needs to boost, even if you've been sober for a few days
in rehab/detox facilities people often don't sleep the first few nights
>>211760411
fear and loathing

>>211761552
NTA, but I consistently press alcoholics with a similar line of questioning because, in every instance I've ever seen, they ultimately respond defensively like you just did, unable to provide a real justification.

>>211761417
>nooooo you're supposed to let poor hitler just invade all those territories without repercussions HE DINDU NUFFIN HE A GOOD BAVARIAN BOI!!!!!!!!!!!
wehraboos: being dumber than a tree stump for almost 90 years

>>211761774
I notice you didn't actually refute anything I said

>>211756804
>What's the power though?
The power of giving up

>>211754104 (OP)
It’s an easy plot device for shenanigans and drama.

>>211761743
The power is taking control over at least one aspect of your life that isn't entirely shit and enjoying it despite everyone in your life giving you shit for it. I'm done doing literally everything for other people, this is something I like and I'm doing it. Lots of alcoholics are codependent wrecks, this allows them some comfort while alone and therapeutic value of being independent. Not exactly healthy but it's a big deal for some.

>>211754384
And that's why Leaving Las Vegas is a comfort movie

>>211754104 (OP)
It's the most socially accepted drug, but also one of the worst in terms of abuse potential. There's a reason so few movies feature psychedelics.

>>211754122
>>211759798
>the jews are the reason I drink alcohol
>no I won't stop
lol just stop, no jew is gonna burst in and put a gun to your head. Goys have no agency or self-responsibility

>>211756803
College fag weekend drinker detected

>>211764647
who are you quoting
maybe examine your own bad faith and need to defend certain types and your perspective will vastly shift

>>211764647
The plural of 'goy' is 'goyim,' ranjeet. You are also a goy by definition.

>self-responsibility
Spend another five hours on Duolingo English before you post here again.

>>211754358
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cD9x1xTSjw

>>211764647
They always promote things that lead to societal apocalypse

>>211765052
just don't drink

>>211764757
sorry I don't speak hebe. I don't even agree goys are mindless animals like you claim.

>>211754104 (OP)
It's primal. Very good chance most of us were conceived in a drunken act.

>>211765211
You clearly don't speak English either.

>>211754104 (OP)

Jews delight in tricking the goys into destroying themselves.

>>211768082
why don't goys just not drink alcohol or eat fast food or etc. Are they stupid?

I'm too old to smoke weed now. Should I pick up smoking or drinking?

>>211768301
It’s not stupidity, it’s conditioning. when destructive habits are marketed nonstop from childhood, and entire systems profit from keeping people hooked, blaming the individual is just deflection. you’re blaming the fish for being caught instead of questioning who’s casting the nets.

>>211768537
seems to me if you drink booze and don't stop because a jew said so you're pretty stupid ngl. Just don't drink it lmao.

Goys have no agency or ability to calculate long-term effects for their actions I guess. Comparing goys to fish to stupid fish is pretty fitting I suppose given they're this dumb.

>>211768609
yeah your strawman defense mechanism tendencies and racism are noted and predictable

>>211761733
Thank. shit i knew my sleep issues were alcohol related.

Because things like heartbreak, things that are legitimately romantic, can lead directly to alcoholism.

>>211768609

Maybe get into your bunker the next round of missiles are coming.

>>211761743
why does anyone owe you justification, ur nobody. ur lucky you get any replies at all

>>211768537
why do goys ride motorcycles or use the internet, did the jews make them do that too? fucking retard

>>211754104 (OP)
Honestly being an alcoholic is fun... until it isn't

>>211770019
it's funny how much incels portray themselves to have 0 agency in the world because they're basically making very convincing arguments that if jews did indeed run the world, they seem to be the correct ones to do so because everyone else is literally too stupid to do so

>>211770178
I don't even get his argument. People do things they like because jews told them to?
Does he know how many fucking jews drink alcohol?

>>211754122
Now that weed is legalized in leaf land its almost a comedy how many stores there are, like you wouldn't want to travel more than a block to get shitfaced drunk and high, so theres a weed store with a liquor store next to it on almost every corner.

>>211770178
>>211770282

The jewish mind operates this way. You're not capable of self-reflection. If you transgress against a goy, then it's the goys fault for allowing himself to be transgressed upon. It's why you're featured in European myth as vampires unable to see their reflection.

>>211770565
you sound like a jew with this pilpul, address the arguments sir

>>211770742

It's fascinating how much of an intellectual blind spot that lack of accountability is.

>>211761842
because the very first point is bullshit since hitler broke the non-aggression pact he had with russians so you know what his "assurances" are worth

>>211761424
The acid reflux alone is enough to ruin your passed out power down

>>211770811
did the jews tell you to write this? (are the jews in the room with us now?)

>>211754122
/thread

>>211771481
The same Russians who had been massing troops on the border for months?

>>211754104 (OP)
never understood alcoholism
Cannabis>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>alcohol

Jews pushing big alcohol

>>211771726

>I lost the argument quick I better accuse the other guy of mental illness to save face

>>211764315
>getting truthnuked in a druk thread
It's friday again huh

Wine has the "class" bullshit image, the French need you to buy that dogshit so they dont go bankrupt
Beer has the "manly" marketing association due to beer companies paying to advertise their shit during football games post-WWII

>>211764315

Unironically the solution is anti semitism. Reject the propaganda they have subjected you to.

>>211772078
For me it's both at the same time. The cleanest, best pleasure.

>>211772078
A good beer or two pairs well with food. I don't do spirits though.

>>211754104 (OP)
Except for very peripheral stuff such as Bond's Martinis I don't think cinema or the arts in general usually make an apology of alcohol. Most movies where alcoholism is a subject portray it as awful

>>211772078
Not for me. If I smoke weed I lose all agency and want to kms. For me, its cocaine>psychedelics>alcohol>>>>>>>> weed

>>211773466
Of course. But even if they throw in a negative message at the end, they still spend more time on positive/relatable depictions, which is all anyone remembers.

>>211756803
When you're chasing complete drunkeness until 3am and then you spend the next 2 hours in the bathroom throwing up. Then you wake up 3 hours later dehydrated with a headache.

>>211754104 (OP)
Because it's the more fun addiction until it isn't

>>211754104 (OP)
alcoholic and other druggies reproduce in a similar manner to fags by spreading their own filth to others through molestation except it's a molesting of the mind

>>211775752
>If I smoke weed I lose all agency and want to kms
weak

I want to be an alcoholic. I used to drink a 6pack every night. Never affected my life negatively. My issue? I have 2 small children. I never have the free time to just get hammered.

>>211778630
The beauty of alcoholism is that you sacrifice time for other things for alcohol instead.

>>211754358
>be me
>no alcohol, no smoking, no drugs, not fat, decent diet, lift
>still feel like shit
I wish had one of the usual vices that I could at least use as a "I know I will feel better if I stop doing [x]"

Is this the thread?

because when you're an addict you get an overdeveloped sense of ego while also being sensitive to criticism (perhaps in secret, but you have a coping strategy by nature).

>mrn

Ive been sober for a year now, and hate every waking second of my life.

>>211779156
Why not smoke weed and avoid the booze. Like at least its something.

>>211754104 (OP)
Because they get paid to. Alcohol is a shit drug, nobody would touch it without it having god tier marketing and everything else being made illegal. The slightest amount of weed creates a better feeling.

>>211779213
Because weed doesnt make me drunk. It makes my brain race even more

Why isn't female pedophilia glorified tho?

>>211778630
>alcoholism
>6-pack of beer daily
>hammered

a lot of people are not alcoholics, thats why. a whole lot of people just drink regularly. but teetotalers call everyone alcoholics.

there's also a massive difference between being drunk, and being drunk drunk.

>>211778630
you could have a cocktail a night lol. thats a 6 packs worth probably. i really don't recommend beer for older men anyway because we get fat easily as it is.

>>211761417
Shitler never signed a treaty or agreement with another nation that he didn't break. Not once!

I have absolutely atrocious mental health genes but have fucking titanium physical genes

great aunt on Dad's side drank a 1l bottle of vodka since the 80s. rough shape but still alive

Mum is severe anorexic and barely eaten anything for the past 20+ years but still looks 40 at 61

Her mum was an alcholic chainsmoker and lived happily until 80

Her Dad was a WW2 bomber pilot at 19, then commercial pilot, was involved in like 5 plane crashes. lived til 90

>>211758781
the real question is how you put that knowledge to use

>>211779335
>alcoholic to the point of liver hepatitis (not yet cirrhosis)
>get sober for four years
>relapse
>have ONE double G&T
>feel it

people aren't kidding, holy shit. i could actually feel the alcohol 'hit'. also, beer does taste of alcohol. even the nicer ones.

in a weird way i'm glad i relapsed. bothers my not-quite-five-years perfect streak OCD, but alcohol really is a shit drug. it doesn't even taste nice.

>>211779878
iktf. was always one of those people who could just eat whatever, never got sick or anything. i still look young and i'm slim despite never exercising or caring about diet much. lots of drugs.

i think the 'gotcha' is dementia. runs in both sides, parents definitely both have memory issues i just saw as a bit kooky, but they're a bit old-wives-tale when it comes to medical problems (even their OWN parents' actual Alzheimer's).

not looking forward to that tbqh.

>>211756803
pray you never find out

>>211779213
Weed sucks.

>>211771577
This is why I always have few cucumbers in the store.

>>211780510
man i don't even like thinking about DTs. a bad acid trip is something you can look back on later and laugh about. yes it was horrific at the time but it's over and you know what was going on. with DTs, maybe you were just in the process of dying. the spiders weren't real, but the sweat and seizures were.

>>211764647
it's just weird they make the media glamourising drinking, and own a big chunk of the alcohol industry at the same time

>>211754122

>>211770288
It’s almost like it’s some kind of addictive substance

>>211754104 (OP)
I'm 31 and now anything more than 2 beers gives me a hangover

I am not an alcoholic and I've never been an alcoholic but at one point I started to become sad and very stressed
I had watched a lot of television shows and movies which showed characters drinking with reckless abandon and I decided it'd be funny to do the same
I wasn't very wealthy at the time so what I did was buy 4 litre boxes of red wine and drink about 6-7 glasses each weeknight and 10+ on the weekends and rinse and repeat at whatever time I could get home after University
I remember drinking through 2 exam periods, mostly because I was incredibly sad, but I never went too far, generally staying at 3-4 glasses a night
Anyway I think media can be a bad influence and I don't drink alcohol anymore, I stopped during covid after I started HRT and stopped wanting the world to be annihilated in a nuclear war

>>211754104 (OP)
Because writers are self-destructive and self-loathing. Alcoholics are not happy people.

I need some professional alcoholics to give me a review/let me know how far down the rabbit hole I am:

>32 years old, 300lbs
>Only started drinking when I was 23, only started drinking heavy in the last 3 years
>I don't drink beer as it does nothing for me, I'm too fat to get drunk off beer
>Twice a week most weeks, I'll sit there with 700ml of whisky and just go through the bottle over the course of 6 hours
>I maintain a steady buzz throughout but don't do anything crazy, just sit and listen to music and shitpost
>By the time I reach the bottom, I'm too tired to stay awake and have no trouble falling asleep
>Hangover lasts until the evening the next day
Now I know this has to be bad for me, but how bad is it? How long would I have to live like this to kill my liver? I don't NEED a drink to get through the week, but it's fun and my life is very boring so I do it.

>>211770288
Briton here, what's the general 'culture' like when it comes to weed in Canada? is public/day smoking considered fine? what about around kids?

i guess it'll happen here at some point, eventually, but i can't see it being like California. maybe closer to Canada (in both weather and custom).

>>211783068
Not too bad yet but it's going to get much worse if you keep that up. Graduating from beer is not a good sign.

>>211783068
>32 years old, 300lb
Even if you are 6'7 tall this alone is game over and KYS-tier.

>>211783315
I'm a NEET and have donkey genetics, so far I have 0 health problems (that I'm aware of). I'm 6ft.

>>211783268
I see. Thanks.

>>211772905
yep, like clockwork

>>211783068
Honestly, being 300lbs at 6ft is the bigger problem.

Here's the thing though. At 32, you're starting to exit the age where you body will let you get away with shit. In your 20s, your body has an incredible capacity for self-repair, but this is rapidly fading. During the next couple of years, towards your mid 30s, you're going to hit the wall, health-wise. And when it hits, it'll hit all at once.

>>211770288
Yeah, the same is true here in America even though it's still illegal on a federal level. Even in states where it's only semi-legal there are weed shops everywhere.

>>211754122
>This
>>211764647
Nice strawman. I'm NTA but the thread isn't about "why are you an alcoholic?" The thread is about "why is alcoholism romanticized in media?" I can watch fictional alcoholics drink themselves to death without feeling the need to mimic their self destructive behavior, but it's just being intellectually dishonest to think there isn't something nefarious about how common it is for (((le certain group))) to always romanticize something so objectively negative to the public.