why can english people do such good american accents but absolutely zero americans are able to do a believable english / uk accent?

>>211771936 (OP)
Depp's from some Kentucky backwoods but he pulls off English sailor Jack Sparrow pretty well.
I've also heard Brits doing some really shitty American accents. The biggest example is the obviously English fat people they had posing as Americans in In Bruges.

>>211771936 (OP)
because american accents are the default way of speaking english

>>211771936 (OP)
you just have to be specific
pick a person and mimic their exact accent
that's the key
if you go generic it always sounds fake

>>211772082
>English sailor Jack Sparrow pretty well.
No he doesnt. His accent is not even english its more american but with some english elongated words like when he says savvy.
Its like english catchprases.
>>211771936 (OP)
FYI this giy is irish not english.
I think the real answer OP though is skill. Just UK has a better and more definied theatre and drama schools so things like elocution lessons, accents etc are taught well in the UK.
Funny as I expect the aussies also come to UK to learn accents as they also do accents well and better than USA actors.
Good example is russel crowe dropping his kiwi/aus accent or cate blanchet in aviator doing the burger trans atlantic "fake accent"
Also jodie coomer is really great at accents as she is a proper scouser, its amazing she is even able to get rid of that accent as it is so think. She must have put a good effort into it.
Saying that though brad pitt did a great irish traveller accent in snatch, even if not accurate its really good so again, skill.

>>211772132
did you skip all of your history classes?

>>211772430
I have heard burger retards here go on massive tirades about how american accents is how british actually spoke centuries ago and the modern british accent (despite their being many) is a modern evolution and the USA accent is actually how british accents sounded.
They are that delusional.

>>211772430
Prove to me that the Medieval English had the same accent they do today

>>211772082
The bitch cop from season 3 of reacher does the wirst American accent ever

>>211772082
>he pulls off English sailor Jack Sparrow pretty well.
Depp doesn't really change his accent at all in the Pirate movies, he just slurs his words as if he's drunk (he probably WAS drunk during most of the filming)

>>211772697
This. Hugh Laurie as House was also awful. It's more that Americans don't have an ear for their own accents, than anyone else being better.

>>211772810
>Hugh Laurie as House was also awful.
he can't be that bad, a lot of people I know who watched it didn't know he was British

>>211772697
Jonny lee miller in dexter and sophie turner in x-men are two really prominent examples in my mind of truly awful attempts at american accents.

Americans evolved past talking like those UKapes

>>211771936 (OP)
Because English people are the original Americans.
Also, all the of the actors who portray Spinal Tap do incredible English accents as well as Gillian Anderson

>>211772406
>Irish not English

Either way he’s still British

All you have to do to sound American is kind of talk through your nose, and sound a bit retarded. Anyone can do it.
>well howdy there lil pardna!
See?

Emma Stone’s was passable, not great, in that Yoghurt Lanthimos movie

>>211773049
Ohho! They're gonna be upset about that one!

>>211773063
Record a message on vocaroo and post it then faggot

Sean Astin and Brad Dourif did pretty good Englishy accents in Lord of the Rings, and Renée Zellweger is excellent in the Bridget Jones movies

>>211771936 (OP)
british people dream of being Americans but for Americans it is indignant to even pretend to be non-American.

>>211771936 (OP)
Americans don't have accents, so learning to impersonate speaking with one is difficult, while for british people sounding American is as simple as turning their accent off.

Yeah, I guess it’s hard for us dumb American hicks to pick up on the subtle nuances of

>OI GUVNA, ‘AVE YA GOT A LOICENSE FER THAT BO'OHW'O'O'ER? WELL AT LEAST OUR SKEWELS A'RUNT SHEW'IN GALLERIES CUNT INNIT

>>211773124
no, there are people sleeping in the next room

>>211773302
Pussy

>>211773302
>faggy anon doesn't want to wake up his mummy

>>211773230
no one says that

spike and wesley from buffy/angel

>>211771936 (OP)

>>211773230
i say that

>>211771936 (OP)
I refuse to believe this actor has a good American accent, what's this from

>>211772082
We prefer "Kenfucky," thank you

>is actually Australian.

>>211771936 (OP)
I know you said actors but the voice actor in Oblivion and other games Craig Sechler who does the voice of the male elves does a very good accent-it's some kind of south English accent.

Keith Szarabajka does a good cockney kind of accent too.
Likewise Spike in Buffy is not bad.

>>211773230
Why don't americans understand banter? You fucks think being as obnoxious as possible is some sort of social grace. Play the game properly you faggot.

>>211773230
brits btfo

>>211772519
That's true though. The deep south accent drifted less from what english sounded like back then.
Imagine being this insecure about simple linguistic facts.

>>211774053
>american bants with you
>W-why don't you understand banter! stop bullying me!
you're a bitch, harry

>>211774135
>The deep south accent drifted less from what english sounded like back then.
The modern southern american accent is heavily influenced by spanish and negroisms

I'm sorry but you're delusional

>>211772082
>Depp's
> he pulls off English sailor Jack Sparrow pretty well.
Not even remotely.

>>211774203
that's a lot of insecure cope

>>211774253
no not really. I'm welsh and have little to be insecure about regarding accents, just pointing out that americans believe some truly absurd things

>>211772810
If his american accent is fooling americans then doesn't that mean it's believable?

And to add to that I saw him on a talk show while the show was airing and he said whenever he visited home friends would comment that he was losing his british accent and sounded more american to them

>>211773063
>pardna
Let me stop you right there. You pronounce the r at the end. You can truncate the word to pardn'r but you're gonna pronounce that r so help me God.

>>211773049
You fucking cunt Irish not British

American English is just how it should be spoken.

>>211773188
>Americans don't have accents

>>211774490
honestly the modern californian dialect that most americans speak now is genuinely disgusting, that upward inflection is horrifying to listen to

>>211773154
This is the truth. English accents sound too feminine.

>>211773230
Shit you sound just like them.

Everyone watches American movies/tv, and only the British watch British movies/tv. The truth is they can do it better because they have more exposure to our accent than we do to theirs. It is just a consequence of being the cultural hegemon.

>>211774053
You faggots go straight for the throat every time and then get so butthurt whenever anyone says anything back.

>>211773828
>are actually Scottish and Irish

>>211774649
harry potter was a global phenomenon. you are staggeringly retarded.

>>211773715
This is the guy your gf tells you to worry about.

>>211774814
>You faggots go straight for the throat every time
we don't, our banter is very mild compared to continental europe who actually genuinely hate the america

>>211775056
That might be true. You all sound the same to me.

>>211772430
>admits he's history compared to the modern American
Damn, that's just depressing. Cheer up Sullivan, if you just ask for help with your arab problem we can come and bail you out again.
Or is that history too embarassing to bring up?

>>211774534
Every night before bed I pray that someone will nuke california.

>>211774649
>The truth is they can do it better because they have more exposure to our accent than we do to theirs.
We're not talking about people in the street, but professionals honing their craft. Hollywood actors have the money and resources to hire the best voice coaches in the world. You niggers will learn vulcan but won't invest the time to learn real accents

>>211774193
well at least our schools aren't shooting galleries...

>>211774464
Irish is just pope-worshipping brit in denial

>>211775358
Only the strong survive.

>>211775116
>we can come and bail you out again.
Is this the thing where you pretend you saved anything in WWII other than Japan and (West) Germany from getting raped by the Soviets?
Because the Battle of Britain was over more than a year before you got sneak attacked two years into a world war.

>>211774649
No, really. There's just not very much *to* the American accent. You speak through your nose, and you try to sound a little bit vacant, and say things like "hawt diggity dawg!", and "God bless this mess!".
That's all there is to it.

I like the Fargo accent

>>211775454
>say things like "hawt diggity dawg!", and "God bless this mess!"
I do be saying that.

Hugh Laurie is the only Brit to have done a convincing American accent. You guys think you're good at it, but you aren't. The big difference is Americans generally don't care if you sound weird, while you retards take it as a personal affront to everything that you are.

>>211775541
this is cope lol

>>211775541
I bet there's a ton of actors in US productions right now who you've watched loads of times and still don't realize they're brits

>>211775541
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gz2SX5dwO84
idk, I think he's done you

>>211775699
dey really do like dat lmao

>>211775672
As long as they have speaking roles I can spot them from a mile away.

>>211772430
history lmao, only the present matters and the USA is the pinnacle of english speaking societies and will be for centuries to come. the british are irrelevant and will become a part of india at the rate they're going

>>211771936 (OP)
>Americans doing an english accent
Isn't that basically what the mid-atlantic accent was?

>>211774959
You're mistaking our blueass state of Kenfucky with Alabama. Here we just fuck our cousins

>>211771936 (OP)
you people do shit southern accents

>>211776200
welllllll I don't know about all that "big city" stuff but welllll I'm a southern boy and we do things a little different around here

>>211772519
theres no extra "I" in aluminum you pretentious faggots

>>211776143
>Alabama
You're not far off. Funny story, in high school there was a kid from Kentucky and some other kids were calling him a yankee because he was from further north than us. He said "I literally grew up on a farm." and I'll never forget that. The kids that were saying it were like suburban upper class.

>>211776200
y'all
bawss
hawwg

>>211774534
>that upward inflection
thats corporate faggot office accent
most people from california 40s-1990s either sound like Jeff bridges, a valley girl, or a Chicano gangster

>>211771936 (OP)
because english people just have to talk normal

>>211776237
aluminum isn't a word

Jason Issacs intro voiceover in the first Resident Evil movie is a pretty good American accent.

>>211775541
How do you feel about Rick in the Walking Dead?

I’ve never heard any actor, regardless of country, speak anything close to an authentic Boston accent, unless they’re from the area.

>>211774053
Sounds like limey can't handle bantz

>>211775358
Too busy stabbing and getting groomed

>>211775541
A Glaswegian actress who started her career in Kevin and Perry Go Large also fooled your entire nation.

>>211772697
does it come with saurkraut?

>>211771936 (OP)
It's funny because the whole Bri'ish accent is relatively a new creation due to recent globalization. Ironically Americans are genetically more close to the original Englishman than Brits you find today in the UK. A lot of historians have remarked that the US Southern dialect is much more closer to the traditional Anglo Saxon accent, unlike the multicultural diverse London accent accent found across England currently. That's because the population of the US South is much more related to the original Anglicans due to their homogeneous settling of the region, whereas England has become so diverse in its cultures, races and ethnicities in the modern era.

>>211778697
This woman didn't fool anyone. She has such a weird cadence when she speaks. I thought her character was supposed to be German or something.
>>211778434
His R's are off in his performance in twd. Overall it is pretty good, but it is clear that he is English.

>>211775699
He sounds Polish

>>211779055
You're trying too hard

>>211777873
https://youtu.be/-5Mvv2NwhA4?t=32
ya pretty spot on

>>211773897
I see what you're saying with the Oblivion voice actor. Much of the time, it is a quite serviceable southern English Received Pronunciation, but he does sometimes slip, particularly with the Trap-Bath Split, which is very common in southern regions of England, but not necessarily with everybody there speaking that way.

>>211778906
>muh ancestors
Ok, Ranjeet Gonzales.

>>211771936 (OP)
both brits and Australians pronounce merry, marry and Mary differently whereas for Americans two or even all are pronounced the same.
There's more memorisation of rules for british accents than American ones.
they also have different a sounds in words like bad and fast whereas these are the same in American english.

>>211778906
>the whole Bri'ish accent
Which one?

Some American actresses have managed to do English accents well, men, not so much.
>>211772082
I don't believe that accent exists anywhere in England.
It's Dick Van Dyke levels of terrible.

>>211771936 (OP)
English just turn off Received Pronunciation; Americans never learn it to begin with. The American is the true accent that English LARP to avoid using in public so they can mingle with their posh overlords, who also LARP to avoid sounding "low-born".

>>211772985
Gillian Anderson was raised bi-national though

>>211771936 (OP)
because the english accent isnt real and american is how you speak english

>>211772519
English spoken by Bongs is a gutter language to 99% of the world besides the dumbest Americans who get their news from Bonglander freaks

>>211774193
>>211774814
>>211778515
The point of banter is to engage in wit and gently push at someone to build rapport. You're supposed to engage in it back in the same way, not just be loud and blunt.
This is basic social education. Did you faggots get held back in kindergarten for not understanding this?
America: a country where acting like a retard is held as a point of pride.

>>211782172
Just admit you despise the Irish for exporting craic to the US to use against you.

>>211782172
So wit is saying America fat America dumb death to America?

Let me tell you an old English joke I learned while in London.
Yallahallah haaa habbibi drabbibi slamalamayaaaaah

You can tell the british are up because they're butthurt again about some more shit that they started.

>>211782339
You can tell mutts are seething because they stayed up all night to argue this shit while everyone else is having a laugh while making their morning brew

>>211782390
I stay up all night every night neet life is great until you lot wake up.

>>211774881
>Hollywood production
>"It's a British movie wah wah wah"
Imagine calling others retarded when you don't even know the difference.

>>211772082
Depp is quite the fan of British humour, he's probably an Anglophile too. For Jack Sparrow he's just doing a Keith Richards impression.

>>211782588
Harry potter is gay we should let them have this one.

>LE BRITS CAN DO GOOD AMERICAN ACCE-

*spends entire movie sounding like a retard inbred Brit trying his hardest to copy Kevin spacey in your way*

>>211771936 (OP)
Gillian Anderson, Donald Sutherland and Brad Dourif are decent at it.

Poor Bale gets confused the most.

ELLO POPPET
FRESHEN ME FACKIN FANNY

>>211771936 (OP)
>picture is of an irishman who cannot do an american accent
THREAD FAILED

>The bant kata. Through analysis of thousands of recorded banters, the Britbong has determined that the geometric distribution of americans in any banter is a statistically predictable element. The bant kata treats banter as a total weapon, each fluid statement representing a maximum own zone, inflicting maximum butthurt on the maximum number of americans while keeping the brit clear of the statistically traditional trajectories of reply comments. By the rote mastery of this art, your posting efficiency will rise by no less than 120%. The difference of a 63% increase to BTFO proficiency makes the master of the bant katas an adversary not to be taken lightly

>>211782958
Brits can’t bant tho. I met a Brit at a bar one time and he tried to “troll me” by joking about 9/11. I laughed with him and then I made a joke about mudshits raping all of the girls in Britain and Britain’s being too scared to do anything by about it and he got red in the face and started spitting all over himself he was so angry.

>>211783046
Nice fantasy, made me laugh though.

>>211782958
We have kindergartners with glock switches. Gun kata is useless against accuracy by volume.

>>211772132
This. Bongs hear american accent their whole childhood from movies.

>>211782958
heh.

>>211783272
To a bong this is a fantastic action movie. To an American, this is Tuesday.

>>211771936 (OP)
Bongs can only do regular american accent
Once they have to do southern or Boston accent it becomes laughable.

There are a lot of brits in that black mass movie and they all sound laughable

>>211783335
>Once they have to do southern or Boston accent it becomes laughable.
A British actress won 2 Oscars playing southerners.

>>211771936 (OP)
I think the dude who plays House does a terrible job at an american accent tbqhwy

>>211783404
>Had to go back nearly 80 years to find good southern accent
Also this bitch was indian
Lol

Jolie does a very good English accent. Still the best Lara too.

>>211783464
There might be others, but I doubt there's much call for British actors playing southern Americans. Daniel Craig in Logan Lucky is the only one that springs to mind.

because of something like this

>>211783335
New York and Boston yes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6E4TOHGO0Ms

>>211776932
Reality disagrees, pussy

>>211783266
other way round too all those fantasy movies and video games people grow up on, GOT skyrim baldurs gate 3 all british voices

>>211783514
Lol you mention Craig without mentioning his accent in knives out films
He sounds like a retard in those films

>>211783696
Haven't seen those films.

John Lithgow is the best Churchill I've seen.

>>211783514
An Aussie played an American in strike back and an American played a brit and I had no idea until after I finished it.

>>211771936 (OP)
There are a lot of British actors who do bad American accents. Hugh Laurie, for example, slipped up a lot despite his most iconic roles being American. If you listen carefully you will hear them fuck up. Andrew Garfield is another.

>>211783696
I feel like Rian made him talk that way. There’s no way he watched that and was like
>yeah you sound great

Question to the muricans: is Hugh Laurie's accent actually legit-sounding? To me it sounds like an exaggerated caricature, but the Americans on the internet swear up and down that they were absolutely convinced he's American himself. Same thing with Cumberbatch, his American is god-awful.

>>211783959
I never watched that show.

>>211783959
In the first season you can hear it noticeably slipping a few times but after that it sounds pretty convincing

>>211783659
Yeah but still 90% of media is american accent. Also Bong actors start learning it while dreaming of Hollywood.

>>211784009
It's not so much that I hear him slipping up, it's just that it sounds bizarre and geographically indeterminate. Maybe I just don't know enough about American dialects.

>>211782417
we've done you

>>211784054
I think they covered that by saying he was an Army brat and moved around a lot growing up

>>211783696
It's obvious that his Knives Out accent is meant to be dialed up like that

>>211783515
>thread full of americans thinking about the british
lol

>>211771936 (OP)
Because you're English and can't tell when an American accent is done badly

>>211772519
Look up Shakespeare "original pronunciation"

>>211784243
you all sound like foghorn leghorn to me

>>211783514
>but I doubt there's much call for British actors playing southern Americans.
You'd be surprised. Americans are even worse and doing southern accents than brits are.

>>211771936 (OP)
this nigga ruined that movie about a fat irish priest for me, I recognised him in the crowd at the beggining and immediately figured out that he's the killer (why else would he hide among basic bitch extras?)