Aaahhh, "A Song of Ice and Fire". Thrilling book series. Shame George RR Martin wasn't a faster writer.

Have you ever heard the tragedy of Darth Gurm the Gluttonous?

FINISH THE BOOKS BEFORE I PISS MESELF

>it’s not a finished series. It’s a trick, a shadow on the wall. And sometimes, a fat man can leave a very large shadow

>>211784120 (OP)
Sanderson will finish it kek

>>211785432
I would rather Gurm just left some outline so we know what happens, generally.

>>211784120 (OP)
kek

>>211785504
fat fuck said he will tell no one and leave no notes

>>211785504
you already know what happes. The shows ending is the true intended ending

>>211785570
What an asshole. I mean, outline would probably not tell what happens to some minor houses and characters anyway, and I frankly care more about that.
>>211785591
Well, I like the idea of Bran being a king. Immortal wizard king or something like that.
But not the way show did it.

>>211785591
that's hwy he will never finish it, the show ending was his ending and he is upset people didn't like it

>>211785686
I think some of the show ideas could be salvaged, but if written and done properly.

I wonder what the attitude to GRRM is like in some timeline where he had finished the books or in which the show did not go the way it did. I suppose for the books it depends on what he does - may just be that the timeline where he did finish them everyone says they are shit and he rushed them.

>>211785742
people rated his books as some of the best fantasy of all time before the show ending, no one does now. in a timeline where he didn't fuck up he is at the top with tolkien.

>>211785767
That is assuming there is not a massive drop in quality with the last 2 books. GRRM has lost interest in finishing the series and is barely if at all working on it sure, but part of that is probably down to having found it too difficult to finish. A GRRM that just goes fuck it and puts something out to complete the series so he can move on does not seem like it would have the same standard there.

>>211784120 (OP)
>"Thrilling"
Anon fell for the marketing ploy

>>211785432
probably the most philosophically opposite man of george you can find.

>>211785929
Jordan was pretty opposite of Sanderson, but it worked

ANY BOY WHORE WITH A LAPTOP COULD WRITE THREE WINDS OF WINTERS

>>211785686
not really, its because its too much work and he is a fat old richman. He can't untangle Danny from her plot and move her to Westeros, his world is too big now and he is a hack. It would take him at least 5 more books and he knows it.

>>211786375
so do 5 more boos then, readers won't complain, just do them regularly

>>211786465
Do you know how many diners meals would that fat fuck have to miss in order to write 5 books? Why would you write something when you earn money by doing nothing? It's what differentiates a hack from an artist. The artist is plagued by his creation, literally obsessed and suffering to complete it. Would get drunk, take drugs, shrroms, anything just to get inspired . He would stop eating and sleeping cause all he needs is to express his creativity. It's what compels him and gives him dopamine. He would seclude and exclude friends from his life just so he could create.

GRRM is not that.

Preston Jacobs will give us WOW

>>211785742
shupposhe*

>>211784120 (OP)

>>211785570
he's so petty its hilarious

>>211785929
Hence why he actually finishes books

>>211785570
He already told several people though. Like the two authors James S.A. Corey who worked for him and he told them what happens. They know where he's going with it. They're more sci-fi writers but could easily finish this shit series for him.

>>211786465
>Fat Fuck can't write 2 books
>He should write then!
Subhuman post

>>211787700

>>211788526
Everyone knows were he's going with it, it was shown in one of the most watched tv seasons of all time
>but but but I didn't like it!
Irrelevant. You know how it ends.

>>211785504
He doesn't have plans, he has an ending that is irrelevant to the majority of characters, so there are many plotlines to resolve and none of them matter to Bran's story

>Wins award he desperately wanted, causing him to abandon the series
The woman is like an infinite seethe generator

>>211785570

In the 00's he would always taunt fans by saying his assistant would destroy his notes if he died. But I imagine HBO put the kibosh on that as part of the deal to adapt it.

>>211785432

Sanderson's work is mid YA type fodder. He's only popular because autists like that he explains how the magic works and literally beats you over the head with the message of the story instead of trusting the reading to suss out obvious symbolism and themes.

>>211789112
Sandersons' Law of Magic explain perfectly why gurm cannot actually pull off any of the High Fantasy stuff he's been cockteasing for 30 years

>>211789591
>Sandersons' Law of Magic
What trite bullshit is that?

>>211789591

I'm honestly not sure how to feel about that.

Magic being mysterious and there being horrible side effects to breaking the laws of nature is cool.

But I can see the other side of the argument too. With any kind of special powers you have to give the reader/watcher a clear understanding of their limits. And then ideally the hero uses them in an unexpected way. So the reader/viewers thinks "wow, I should have thought of that" instead of being annoyed you just pulled a deus ex machina out of your ass.

>>211789112
Sure, but if asked, I know he could step up to the plate and emulate grrm's "adult" brutal style of storytelling. He's better at making his audience happy than grrm ever was

>>211789979
And that is exactly the problem with asoaif, which fed into the show too. Dragons go from bring invincible I win button to being one shotted by some random Dornish peasant. The Night King is completely invincible one second and is then effortlessly shanked in the next scene. The 'keeping things mysterious' approach really only works in Horror, because the protagonists are fucked anyway.

>>211790436
>The 'keeping things mysterious' approach really only works in Horror,
Nah. The reason why the Taken in Black Company (at least in the first ones) books were cool because they were mysterious, kind of crazy sometimes and you didn't know, not really, what they were capable, beyond that they are powerful.

>The famously opportunistic backstabber lord suddenly wants to rejoin the losing side of a war
>The guy with a skinned dude as his house's sigil is also up to no good

How did most people not see the Red Wedding coming from a mile away?

>>211791618
They weren't even losing, they could have just turtled up in the Riverlands and Lannisters couldn't do much. And if Vale joined in then it would have been even easier.
But desu, realistically I think they would have needed bigger support to assassinate/overthrow Robb. I would say there were too many Stark supporters, and only thing that sort of kind of counteracts this is that they thought that Bran and Rickon are dead, and realistically they (the boys) likely would have been a rallying banner for any important Northern lords soon after they escaped.

>>211784120 (OP)
Maybe some stories just aren't supposed to have an end. Maybe things just keep going on forever.

>>211790641
yo is that stuff good? it's on my reader. better than asoiaf?

>>211792898
I liked the first book a lot, and some of the others were ok too. Later ones have cool moments, but overall I didn't like them as much, as characters changed and so on.
It's different than GoT in style and focused on merc life, not court intrigue, but on the other hand it's also gritty and in some ways low magic, but not as low as GoT in many ways. Just don't expect Sanderson's magic systems, the narrator/protagonist merc is not some wizard and he doesn't know how that shit works most of the time.

"The more she shidded the more she farded. By morning the sphincter was torn and the anus prolapsed with the brown leak. It looked like the fallen flag of the Targaryen dynasty covered in blood and mud." - George R. R. Martin

>>211793335
bravo vince

>>211793335
Real problem is not the shart and fart lines, the real problem is Dany chapters.

>>211790036
I'm not an expert on Sanderson, but I've read enough to know this anon is right, he can do the more serious/brutal style if he wants, he just prefers not to in his own stuff.

>>211793266
that's fine, I dislike Sanderson's autistic magic systems

how does it compare (if at all) to Wheel of Time?

>>211793335
kek

>>211793542
I couldn't tell you, I dropped WoT on the first book, but I would say they are just different, WoT seems to lean more into epic fantasy, more Tolkien style, at least that was my impression. While Black Company is more gritty and down to earth, there is way less worldbuilding, it's more about characters and what's happening around the narrator.

>>211793656
ok sounds pretty good actually, I'll check the first one out

>>211793335
>Her cunt became the world