Why would humans evolve full gills to breath underwater before even evolving kidneys that allow them to drink seawater? Even whales and dolphins never evolved gills, while dehydration from lack of freshwater would kill people constantly.

They don't drink seawater either

OP drinks sea men

There's a reason that movie wasn't well received anon

fuck you i liked it

>>211831865
From their penis hahaha get it?

Kelvin plz, no more rewrites. Just get in the damn boat and piss on the plant!

>>211831837
In the world the film defines, people are drinking their own piss and constantly struggling to stay hydrated. While Costner's gills give him very little advantage over anyone else, he can dive a little deeper and longer, but people aren't suffering from a fish shortage they are suffering from a water shortage.

The first hour of this movie is very good desu

>>211831717 (OP)
This movie has unexplained water monsters.

I liked this movie and I don't care what any of you say

>>211834412
fish aren't monsters, go outside sometime

>>211832165
I heard that the book or something implied his gills weren't a mutation

>>211831717 (OP)
in order for human brain to receive enough oxygen to function his gills would have to bigger than his entire body

>>211834880
Depends on how much oxygen the blood can absorb and where it goes

>>211831717 (OP)
Good point op.
Can anyone explain to me why this movie has such a bad reputation? I watched it numerous times and I always come a way with the idea that it is a really good and original take on the post apocalyptic genre

>>211835146
It didn't make any money, therefore bad

>>211831717 (OP)
it's a mutation. it doesn't follow any kind of logic.
mutations are generally neutral or slightly harmful.

if it's beneficial they have a reproductive advantage so the mutation is spread through the population.

there are all sorts of mutations in the human genome like Down's Syndrome

>>211831717 (OP)
There is a comic about Water World that explains Kevin Costner was actually a genetic experiment from an underwater pre-disaster lab.

>>211835238
basically and it really wasn't by the fault of anyone. one of the sets was destroyed in storm and sank, there were some production problems and that put 75 million extra on the budget.

if that didn't happen it would have made money. Another thing that hurt its domestic box office was that the critics completely shit all over it. back then people actually gave those people the time of day and their opinions mattered.

>>211831717 (OP)
Not only that, but...
>Nobody had a submarine
>Where did the seemingly endless supply of cigarettes come from?
>People can turn oil to gas, but can't make seawater drinkable
>Nobody thought to make enough rope to drudge shit up from the water

>>211832165
>not wanting to fuck Costner in the gill slits

>>211835646
>critics completely shit all over it
Yeah, it's a bit dumb, but so was Robin Hood & that made a fortune

>>211835146
>Can anyone explain to me why this movie has such a bad reputation?
Its one of those movies that has the same story as others in Hollywood. The budget. Hollywood hates when a movie comes along that has a budget much larger than the norm. They hate the idea of that higher budget becoming the new normal. So when a film does that they will create a unified campaign against a film hoping it fails. That way it will discourage anyone else from trying to make something so monetarily extravagant again. Its an open secret they do this. They will coordinate with critics to give it bad reviews. They will hire pundits to shit talk it on television shows. Waterworld was one of those films. Its budget at the time was egregious. So collectively the industry wanted to sink it, no pun intended. You can probably find a list of films Hollywood has intentionally gone after because of budgets they didn't want becoming normal. Offhand I can think of Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within which they also went after for the same reason. It was a foreign company devoting a massive amount of money to a 3D animated film. They did not want someone setting a new standard in that arena

>>211835820
>Where did the seemingly endless supply of cigarettes come from

The barge they were literally living on was transporting food goods and cigarettes.
Smokers had both
1. Basic necessity
2. Chemical addiction
to build an army and eventually made a somewhat sustainable ecosystem of raiding other people.
Until the barge ran low on fuel.

>>211835914
Cutthroat Island

>>211831717 (OP)
The icecaps are all fresh water. The salinity would've greatly decreased.

>>211831717 (OP)
You're in control of your evolution? How'd you manage that?

>>211835914
They sure don't do it anymore. 300+ million dollar budgets are the norm now and the movies are abysmal. Worse than 30-40 million dollar movies decades ago. Then they get mad when the movies don't make 2.5 times the budget and blame the audience for not turning out to pay almost a billion dollars to make a profit

>>211835914
>Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within which they also went after for the same reason.
I'll give you a reason, it sucked! Also, while it was innovative for the time, the animation was still in the uncanny valley territory.
I agree with you on most everything else, but it's strange how in the last 15 years budget over runs have become the norm for blockbusters. I know that's because they're way more corporate made than they used to be, but you'd think with their revenue streams in rentals and video sales almost completely gone, they'd try to rein their costs in more than they have. I mean 300 million for a fucking ant man movie? 270 million for fucking snow white? What the fuck are these retards thinking?

It’s a fictional movie so I would get too hung-up on plot holes but it’s obvious that fully functioning gills could not possibly evolve within 500 years so my assumption was that the melting of the polar ice caps was initiated by, or resulted in, some nuclear exchange or meltdown(s). The increase in mutagenic material meant that there were more mutations occurring. Most would be deleterious but some might not be and Kevin Costner’s were almost surely the result of horizontal gene transfer with fish or amphibians. It could also be that there was a genetic modification program at the onset of the polar melt when they realized that terrestrial life was not going to continue. Kevin Costner might be a direct lineage of these people.

>>211831717 (OP)
His dad fucked a fish and out popped our kev.

Waterworld is an entertaining and fun movie and the only reason it got shit on was because the industry and media like to double down on slamming movies when they’re over budget and have issues. It’s bizarre because even before they’ve seen the product they like to set it up simply to knock it down. The average movie goer doesn’t give a shit about movie making politics yet when they hear all the reviewers and industry insiders shitting on it they’ll stay away or prematurely adopt an uninformed opinion based on this cultivated word-of-mouth. Sad!

>>211837778
They're tax scams now
>We lost x amount here so we can write off y amount there

>>211831717 (OP)
>year 2500
Humans are not gonna develop gills in 500ish years, that is nothing in terms of evolutionary timeline. For example modern humans have been around for 300,000 years.

>>211836019
Did they ever explain how they were growing tabacco?

>>211838184
Wrong. In the last 10 years along men can now become women and vice versa so what’s a pair of gills in 500 years?

>>211838238
Which part of transporting cigarettes did you not understand?

>>211838254
Nigga shut the fuck up, this a thread abiut waterworld. Take your tranny obsession autism somewhere else

>>211838238
Globally there are hundreds of billions of cigarettes produced daily. If a fraction survive they could easily supply the scant survivors for years to come. They’re condition would be terrible but the survivors wouldn’t care.

>>211838329
The part where cigarettes need tabacco, being that thats the whole point.

>>211838347
Doubt it it would last that long. At some point they be too ruined to use.

>>211838332
I’m an ally first of all and secondly I’m saying that in the last decade a male can now become a female validly so you don’t think we can evolve some gills in 500 years?

>Pepe!

>>211838396
>transporting
take or carry (people or goods) from one place to another by means of a vehicle, aircraft, or ship
>cigarettes
thin cylinders of finely cut tobacco rolled in paper for smoking
Do you understand now?

No one gives a shit if Waterworld isn't realistic. It's fun, entertainment like movies used to be. Mad Max but on water instead is a neat idea.

>>211831717 (OP)
oxygen molecules are smaller than sand and salt particles... anon.

>>211835646
Wouldn't insurance have compensated for that? Or did the nose people just pocket that money and blame the movie for the weather?

>>211838399
>I’m an ally first of all and secondly I’m saying that in the last decade a male can now become a female validly so you don’t think we can evolve some gills in 500 years?
If you were an ally you should know that trans people have been around since people have been around. There's ample evidence for it, and many cultures have gender groupings that go beyond just male and female. There's nothing unique about the last 500 years.

>>211838329
Yes, because they normally ship those things on oil tankers.

>>211839532
It probably covered the property damage but not other stuff, like paying everyone's wages while things were rebuilt

>>211839918
Yeah, sailors can't stop at the local 7-11 or something

>>211838846
Paper was supposed to be valuable, now you're just burning it? It needed to be pipes. The main villain could have taken bong hits from the skulls of his enemies.

>>211840546
1 They were ready-made smokes
2 They didn't give a shit

>>211840630
>just burn the money
The villain was proto-Joker all along. It's about sending a message.

Why did he do it?

>>211837778
They all want to be the next billion dollar earner. If they hit one it attracts a whole new crop of investors aka producers who will fund shit. That's the trick with Hollywood. Don't spend your own money, make a film with the money from someone else. If it hits you profit, if it fails you lose nothing and they can claim it as a loss on their taxes

>>211840546
Their whole thing was being unsustainable and taking luxuries by force using their limited oil.

>>211834437
anyone who says its bad is an idiot, this movie was sabotaged by the media. The only critique is that its a Road Warrior ripoff

>>211844154
>Road Warrior ripoff
Which is silly right? It's just a genre of movie. Apocalyptic scavenger needs to fend off a band of raiders to protect an outpost of survivors. Many movies use that premise since it's leads to entertaining stories

>>211832096
Huh?

>>211844220
They panned Prince of Thieves too & it made a huge profit, so they really went for Costner with this