Fraiser's apartment is unsurpassed as far as sitcom apartments go
>view so amazing it's literally impossible in real life
>timeless decor

i recently watched the first 6 seasons for the first time and loved it. should i watch the rest?

>>211843869 (OP)
tossed sallads and scrambled eggs

looks awful
like everybody's first Sims house after cheats

>a bunch of dirty buildings
>amazing viewy

>>211843946
Yes but there will be a steep decline in writing quality. It never gets terrible outside a few episodes, but there's noticeably less effort put in. Many episodes kinda fizzle out without proper resolution or payoff.

>>211844232
I lost interest when Niles & Daphne hook up.

>>211844304
That's when the writing falls off because there's no more tension. The rest of the series is worth watching but the funniest episodes are over.

>>211844232
It's weird how inconsistently written characters like Martin are. He's either an intelligent former detective who laughs at Frasier's naïvety or he's a literal retard who falls for TV advertizements

>>211844184
>literal dirt
>amazing viewy

i used to have an apartment with the real version of the frasier view

>>211849049
Did you leave your blinds open or were you ever scared someone would be spying on you from any of those myriad other windows?

>>211843869 (OP)
>three bedrooms
>they all have ensuite bathrooms
>still has a powder room for guests
This is the best part.

>>211843869 (OP)
I always thought the view made it feel oddly claustrophobic, despite the apartment being quite spacious. It's just a wall of buildings outside.

>>211843869 (OP)
what is that thing attached to the chair

>>211843869 (OP)
>Fraiser's apartment is unsurpassed

WRONG

>>211843946
Without hesitation, yes. It gets worse, but there are still some great episodes woven in. There is positively no need to watch nu-Frasier, however.

>>211849560
Condos for wealthy people do tend to be nicer than apartments for service workers. One of the biggest differences you don't see in shows is the difference in noise isolation. This is both due to layout (bedrooms don't share walls with neighbor's livingrooms) and construction materials/techniques.

>>211849688
It's the ottoman, flipped upside down so it's padding and the chair's padding are touching.

It looks uncomfortable and like there's tons of stuff that's useless for anything except collecting dust. For me it's the utilitarian seinfeld lair

>>211843869 (OP)
>goon chair right next to the window
a true man of culture

>>211849993

>>211843869 (OP)
>>211850099
does no one ever mention how unrealistic it is for all these people to afford apartments in big cities?

>random faggot talk show host
might as well be a manager at a mcdonalds
>amateur comedian
ain't no fucking way you're getting a nice city apartment.

>>211849949
>that 60s step down sitting area bullshit thing
I FUCKING HATE THAT SHIT
you figure enough maids would have fallen over and sued enough for everybody to get rid of those faggot stepdowns

>>211850354
New York in the 90s was a lot cheaper. There were still whole neighborhoods that were really cheap and run down that are now really fancy

>>211849330
At those heights, all them apartments have huge white telescopes to voyeur with.

>>211850354
Frasier was also a therapist, and his dad probably got a severance or something

Cozy set. Good lighting too.

>>211850354
On top of child support payments, since Lilith had Freddy.

>>211850354
seinfeld, larry david and the irl kramer all lived in such nyc apartments before the show happened, so obviously it is realistic.

Is this accurate, is Freddy some 'INTP' in the new show?
https://www.personality-database.com/profile?pid=2&cid=2&sub_cat_id=75

Which network is buying the new show?

>>211850354
Jerry and Kramer's building was based on the apartment building Larry David and Kenny Kramer lived in that was heavily subsidized by the National Endowment for the Arts. IIRC, Larry David's rent was something like $35/month (no, there's not a missing zero). New York is full of these type of situations that are amazing if you're able to get into them.

>>211850354
George's apartment seems more realistic to me

>>211850354
The 90s were a completely different time bro

>>211850354
jerry is canonically well off and his apartment is like 800 sq ft not a gigantic loft like friends

>>211850676
In the late 70s, you could get a brownstone for $20k. Probably would cost $10 million now.

>>211851081
youre leaving out all the foundation work or asbestos abatement that was needed on top of the heroin addicts that waltz in and piss in the stairwell
the real estate wasnt cheap for no reason

>>211843869 (OP)
those are some ugly ass table legs

>>211849993
Frasier having the base of the Ottoman sticking up in the air like that seems out of character. Perhaps Daphne was washing the floors

>>211850354
>does no one ever mention how unrealistic it is for all these people to afford apartments in big cities?
There's always an in universe explanation for it, usually relayed either in the pilot or in the first handful of episodes. The only one I can remember off the top of my head though is the explanation for Friends. Ross and Monica inherited those two apartments from their grandmother and they're rent controlled units so they cost a fraction of the going market rate for the sqftage in that location and are therefore affordable for a handful of 20somethings working deadend jobs splitting the cost.

Also in Frasier's case this was early 90s Seattle. The king county tech boom was just barely hitting at the time and housing demand hadn't gone to the moon yet so property back then was a lot more affordable than you might think.

>>211851010
>“Miracle on 42nd Street” — Alice Elliott’s documentary, premiering Saturday at the DOC NYC Film Festival — makes the convincing case that it was Manhattan Plaza, the hulking, federally subsidized apartment complex that stretches from Ninth to 10th avenues between 42nd and 43rd streets. Since opening in June 1977, its 1,689 apartments have been home to New Yorkers struggling to make a living in the performing arts — actors, singers, stagehands, musicians and comedians.
>That year, David traded his roach-infested railroad apartment for a Manhattan Plaza studio — “paying $57 a month,” he says in the documentary. Samuel L. Jackson worked as a doorman in the building’s early years while auditioning for plays at the Negro Ensemble Company. A struggling Terrence Howard (Lucious Lyon in “Empire”) practiced lines with fellow Manhattan Plaza resident Giancarlo Esposito, who was about to get his big break in Spike Lee’s 1989 film “Do the Right Thing.” And in 1993, Alicia Keys wrote her first song at Manhattan Plaza, after being given a piano by a neighbor.
If the federal government didn't cover most of the cost of rent, we would not have shows like Seinfeld, the movies of Spike Lee, the acting of Samuel L. Jackson, or the music of Alicia Keys. Seems like a bargain to me.

>>211851081
My parents bought a 1 family attached house in deep Brooklyn for 80k in 1990, they're looking at selling it for 1.1 million

Where can I watch Frasier?

Also how is the view impossible? I know nothing of Seattle

>>211851474
My parents thought they made out like bandits having bought a house in a middle class part of suburban LA for $350k in the mid 90s, which they sold for $1.5m in 2018. Now it's valued at $2.5m. If they just waited a bit longer for the zero interest rate money printer to crank up, they would have been a million richer. Crazy how much wealth one can get from timing rather than from creating anything.

>>211851519
>Also how is the view impossible?
His building would have to be sitting in the middle of Elliott Bay to have that view. Think the writers had fun with that fact by naming his building Elliott Bay Towers.

>>211843946
No. The show can only be enjoyed if you take it in its entirety. You need to start over at season 1 and then continue through the whole show.

>>211850099
>Off centre light fixture
>stools next to counter with no overhang
>the shallowest fridge in the world
>grey on grey on grey

>>211851858
There is nothing that doesn't suggest that Frasier isn't set in a slightly different world where this is the case and there is a tower there and the technology/means to build it.

>>211844304
when fraiser decide to label his producer incompetent so he can break doctor patient confidentiality. niles has a womanizer patient and Fraiser trys to warn ros. it was scary how quickly a doctor can make you into a thing, turned me off quick.

>>211850354
george had to move in with his parents and jerry was a professional comic that went on tv

>>211843869 (OP)
in real life you would live in a filthy hovel with paper bags taped together as improptu curtains, a mattress on the floor, and you keep a gun in the nightstand in case LaQuavius decides to break in and rob you

>>211851519
check the US library of congress might have been submitted as a culture stone and preserved.

>>211852255
I'm sorry about your sorry dirt shit poor existence, anon.

>>211850354
>why doesn't anybody ever mention [thing that has been discussed to death for 30 years]
Are you fucking retarded? Frasier is a successful psychiatrist who had his own private practice for years, and so is Lilith, so his alimony would be low since she has a high salary as well. A Harvard-educated private practice doctor could easily afford that apartment in the 90s. He's also a local celebrity with an absolute shark of an agent regularly getting him 20% raises. Also
>jerry's apartment
>nice
>that episode where george does the i dream of jeannie thing ("your lobby door's broken again")
>that episode where elaine is gonna move into the same building ("the rent is only $400 a month")
>that episode where jerry gets robbed when kramer leaves the door open
Jerry's building is a fucking dump, easily the worst of the major sitcom apartments.

>>211852063
It is known that he's a time traveler, so that is possible.

>>211843869 (OP)
Niles' apartment literally had three floors, Frasierfags btfo

>>211852715
Yes, look at who else lives in the building. Kramer somehow just falls into money as needed but Newman is a mail carrier. My step-mother was one, and while it's not exactly poverty wages, it's not all that great money either. Job security and benefits are the main attractions, not salary.

>>211850488
Step downs are max comfy. My uncle had a 3 step step down into a circular seating area. Like one round couch. It was super comfy for hangouts and conversations.

>>211851519
>Where can I watch Frasier?
Just pirate it, there's a popular and highly-seeded full series torrent on cloudtorrent.

>>211851354
If they did that today it wouldn’t be the same. We would just get more of the modern slop we get, but paying for the shitty artists living too.

>>211853568
Three steps is enough to make it a separate area. With just one step, it's called a Van Dyke, after the Dick Van Dyke Show, whose titular character was constantly tripping on the single step. Freshmen architectural students are told to not use them, even if they're a good way of visually breaking up large open spaces.

>>211853521
People never got that he wasn't exactly playing Successful Seinfeld. Basically everything after their pilot on the show gets cancelled is Jerry Seinfeld saying "let's see how shitty things can get for an unsuccessful comedian with loser friends." It's not supposed to be Let's Look in On The Richest Comedian Alive who has the #1 show on television. He's playing a role. I like to think Seinfeld was playing his real life before their chance at the TV show on the TV show, but who knows. If I was going to reboot Seinfeld I would have him be wealthy and successful. Not like Curb because that show was improv and shot differently. It would be a reboot with the studio audience and same kind of structure as the original. He and George are rich because their show Jerry was picked up after they got out of jail. I don't know what you do with Kramer and Elaine but I think it would make for an interesting show.

>>211854007
>He's playing a role.
But it's just not funny. It's like making a show where Gordon Ramsay was suddenly a shitty, struggling cook. How is that funny? That's just gloating about how great you are IRL, and wouldn't it be funny if you weren't so great?

>>211854070
>a show where Gordon Ramsay was suddenly a shitty, struggling cook
I would watch this

>>211854070
Humor is subjective I find Seinfeld very funny for the record. But he's not meant to be the funniest on the show, Kramer George and Elaine are the stars and he's just the setup guy. He never pretends to be a great actor.

>>211853748
those are the original stepdowns in usonian houses where the steps are right where they need to be and they dont span across half the room

>>211854378
You'd watch a show where the whole premise is Gordon Ramsay cooks shit like sushi, that he is wholly untrained for. That would be interesting. Watching a character played by Gordon Ramsay who is just a struggling chef wouldn't be interesting at all, he's not a good actor, and neither is Seinfeld.

>>211854462
Seinfeld's bad acting is overblown. His one flaw is he breaks character and smiles when there's a funny line, other than that he's fine. His Kramer impression in the Kenny Rogers one is way better than Michael Richards' Seinfeld impression for example.

>>211843869 (OP)
The couch is a bit dated.

>>211855041
>Seinfeld's bad acting is overblown
How is it overblown when it's the thing everybody new to the show comments on? Jerry just sucks as an actor. The show was carried by the supporting cast and from being from a time before actually smart and funny TV writing.

Property, a non-productive asset that does fuck all and yet is still a necessity being a wealth generating vehicle is the most retarded fucking thing ever

>>211849949
this was a plot point in an episode where some rock musician moved into the floor above him and Frasier complained about the noise all episode long

>>211855344
>asset that does fuck all
it fucking breaksdown
you have to constantly repair it

>>211855344
>Property, a non-productive asset that does fuck all
Property used to be what people grew their food on. The concept of property, as in, a box that you live in, rather than a usable plot of land that you can use to sustain your family, is a 20th century development after people got corralled into cities to work in Jewish factories.

>>211853568
I want to bring back conversation pits

>>211844184
How much would this cost?

>>211843869 (OP)
No ceilings

>>211851354
i guess we also wouldn't have the same lazy variations of Gustavo Fring

>>211843869 (OP)
>a stormy night in a sky lofted apartment viewing the skyline
I miss it, now I live in the gay ass suburbs

>>211855729
i think that was also a throw away gag in one episode, where some guest commented on how high his ceilings were instead of the view or something normal.

>>211855344
>>211855682
>agrarian socialists aka commies struggle to understand the world.
Whats not productive about property? Its a place to sleep, cook, rest and you own it, so you can tell people to get out

>>211851303
That thing costs 7 thousand dollars, she better put up the base if she's going to swing a mop around

>>211856147
It's from the last episode, Frasier has it like that so he can move it into position after Marty's chair is finally removed.
>same shirt
>phone and glass visible on the table
t. Frasier scholar.

>>211856031
>Its a place to sleep, cook, rest and you own it
Contrary to popular Jewish belief, ownership is not productive. Land can grow things, a box is just a structure you live in. Obviously if you have a workshop or something that's also a productive use of your land but that's not what 90% of people use their property for these days.

>>211850099
>there's tons of stuff that's useless for anything except collecting dust
It's called SOVL, something modern interior design doesn't have.

>>211850354
The big sets are merely a consequence of needing a lot of room for the actors and cameras to move around.

>>211850354
>ain't no fucking way you're getting a nice city apartment.
Anon the simple reality is that back in the 90s, yes, you absolutely fucking could. Housing had not yet turned into a vehicle for Jewish investment firms to make money off of so the price of housing in any place in the country was actually in line with what you would earn in that same area. Watch those TV shows and realize that that used to be an accepted normal. Realize what was taken from you.

>>211849049
So the building was floating in the middle of Elliot Bay?

>>211857729
>its da jooooos

>>211857547
really ironic an antsemitic nazi is pushing communism but not really.
You cant grow wheat in a city apartment you autistic tard

>>211857815
>its da jooooos
Call it whatever you want, it's the bankers and investment firms anon, don't be a useful idiot.

>>211857852
>property was historically a place you could feed your family off of
>huh but it's not NOW you Nazi retard! You can't grow CROPS in a CITY!
Stunning display of logic and reasoning.

>>211857815
yes

>>211849907
Given Niles' success and Maris' wealth, I always assumed they owned a house on Mercer Island or one of the wealthier neighborhoods. In the 90s Seattle was still very much a "upper middle class own houses" kind of city.

>>211843869 (OP)
>>timeless decor
It aged quite noticeably. Seinfeld's flat is more timeless.

>>211843976
As a child I really thought he just meant eggs with a side of salad...

>>211857815
Yes

Has anyone found a way to remove laugh tracks?

>>211858577
Thats what it means

>>211855724
Depending on where it is it could either be insanely expensive, or surprisingly cheap.

There are European and Asian countries where properties like this are surprisingly affordable, but the trade off is always that you are generally 1 hour drive from the nearest town, the road access to your property is sketchy at best. Those two realities mean ANY trip away from the house is either going to have to be a day trip or cost you an afternoon at minimum.

These properties are amazing if that is the sort of life you want to live, but unless you are an artist that requires solitude to 'do your work' or whatever then you could never live at one of these places full time.

>>211850099
That Seinfeld lair would be a nightmare. There's no room for anything, the stove doesnt even have a range hood so every nook and cranny would have grease in it over time just from cooking. And it would fill up with junk so fast in that tiny space it would become a cluttered hell.

>>211851341
The tech boom had hit but was centered mostly in the East Side so you had a ton of what were old farmhouses in Bellevue and Redmond getting parceled off into McMansion housing developments. Seattle was seeing a housing increase at the time due to Californians fleeing north and overpaying for houses, which is why there was so much negative sentiment towards California in the late 80s and early 90s.

In '96 my parents bought an average sized house in Montlake for $170k because renting the extra rooms made it cheaper than paying for dorm rooms for three kids at the UW.

The housing prices went insane after Amazon decided to put their HQ in the middle of the city rather than in exurbs like Microsoft and Boeing did. Nowadays even a shithole like Rainier Valley is $600k+ for homes.

>>211844184
What sitcom is this apartment from?

>>211855470
FLESH IS BURNING
DUN NA NA NA NA NA

>>211852715
One disappointment is we never saw Frasier interact with local celebrities. Would have been cool to see Pat Cashman at the radio station or Bulldog have a rivalry with Tony Ventrella.

>>211850488
>>211853568
I hate them, but they probably did them on the show so the soundstage could have depth. It means they can film scenes further into the apartment without the couch setup blocking the cameras.

>>211855470
What's funny is that's a rich condo owner trope. They do that one "the neighbors are loud" episode, and it's never a problem again. Even going back to Diff'rent Strokes, it's been a requirement for the setting.

>>211857729
>>211857547
>211855682
>211858379

>>211855344
If you want property to go down in price, people need to stop having kids and suddenly be comfortable living in empty cornfields.

>>211856147
We had a replica when I was a kid but I assume Frasier would insist on the real thing.

>>211858750
The tradeoff in Washington state is that it turns out the small creek on one side of the property means over half the acreage is considered wetlands and you aren't even allowed to build a shed on it.

>>211859263
Martin comes out of retirement to team up with Speed Walker solve a series of Dick thefts. Pure Seattle kino!

Lmao hes so mad

>>211843869 (OP)
Do any anons live in a nice highrise? Is it nice or is there a reason why people live in houses/suburbs? Pic related is in the tallest building in my country and if I won the lottery I'd buy it.

My apartment, $1050 per month metro Detroit.

>>211860414

>>211860453

>>211843869 (OP)
>view so amazing it's literally impossible in real life
City slickers think a view of other apartments is good?

>>211844377
>a tsar is born
>they’re playing our song
>out with dad
>morning becomes entertainment
>the show must go off
And easily one of the top 10 episodes
>the doctor is out

All after season six.

>>211850354
>>211851010
So if you were a Jew in New York before... you could basically get housing for FREE?

>>211849560
a friend of mine lives in a pretty upscale place built in the 80's that has not only ensuites in every bathroom as well as one off the main hall for guests, but the kitchen and laundry area has its own entrance so the help doesn't disturb you when coming and going.

>>211860500
did fucking jrr tolkien make this map?

>>211862086
ben garrison

>>211859951
>Do any anons live in a nice highrise? Is it nice
It better fucking be for the prices they charge.

>driving thru rich part of town
>huh, that's a really nice apartment building
>Look it up
>Apartments cost as much as a house ($350k) and charge 3k a month for "maintenance"
I genuinely don't understand the use case.

>>211858883
Friends

>>211862898
in my country annual building/maintenance fees are usually similar to the annual property taxes

>>211843869 (OP)
>>211850099
What does /tv/ think of my apartment?

>>211859951
Dealing with the noise and smell of others constantly, at all times, gets exhausting.

>>211864133
Your toilet is concerning.

>>211852282
yes, email your local librarian and ask them to request the tape from the Library of Congress in DC. They are usually very fast and it should arrive in 3-7 days. Make sure to rewind the tapes when done, otherwise you will not be allowed to rent tapes in the future only DVDs and Bluerays.

>>211864133
is that asmongold on your tv?

>>211864235
In what way

>>211855344
How else are we going to have housing being built or maintained in this country?
Without the annually increasing profit incentive we'd all be living in the street.

>>211864345
No, it's Atrioc.

>>211864361
It is extremely elongated, like it's used by a reptiloid that needs room for their tail to move out of the way while in use.

>>211864133
Everything in your apartment looks Made in China aka cheap.

>>211864446
That's just the shitty wide-view lens.

>>211864502
We get a lot from IKEA, except for the sofa, the table behind the sofa and that desk cabinet next to the sofa. Maybe Swedes get their stuff from China.

>>211844184
Terrible. Imagine taking the bins out.

>>211850354
I spend more on cigarettes now than I.did on housing in the early 00's. Can't imagine how cheap the 90's were.

>>211864133
No carpet no comfy

>>211860414
I don't like that Americans calculate by the month. Do you all get paid per month or something?

>>211843869 (OP)
Everyone can blow up a wall-sized vista and wallpaper it

>>211843869 (OP)
The Eames chair alone is worth around $7000

>>211854867
Since I repetitively watch a webm of him fucking up a cheese sandwich, I guess I would watch that

>>211865098
a childhood friend had that in their house in the 90s and early aughts, i always liked it, i guess they'd be considered tacky nowadays

>>211865035
It depends on the job. Once a month isn't very common anymore. Most people get paid either twice a month (24 paychecks per year) or every other week (26 paychecks per year). The former is more common with salaried jobs and the latter with hourly jobs but that's not a hard rule. Places with low pay and high turnover often pay weekly. Amazon and a few others will even pay daily if you want.
Sometimes things like trash collection that are low cost are billed quarterly. Reoccurring bills like rent are typically monthly. Weekly rent is usually for corporate paid housing associated with employment or for very low end flop houses.

>>211856330
This ALWAYS BOTHERED ME.

Frasier didn't have the Eames there. He had the Wassily Chair in that position.

>>211864133
>>211864599
HK? IndoMalay? Taiwan? Getting strong Asian vibes here. Bedroom separated from dining area by sliding glass door and curtain is a hard no for me. Post close ups of your models if they're your own work tho

>tfw trannie jannies try to shadowban you and delete your posts because they're threatened by namefagging elemental Christian doctrine

>>211866710
Yeah that's true, in the first episode it was the Wassily. But he actually still has that chair in his room.

>>211843869 (OP)
>>view so amazing it's literally impossible in real life
there are many apartments in hong kong with that view, if you are on hong kong island and have a hill view instead of harbour view

>>211846658
that is what old men are like. experts in their field but lacking outside it.

>>211867533
You stupid fuck. He's saying that it's impossible for that specific view to exist from a building in Seattle.

>>211844184
Seattle actually does have really cool views, you can get mountains, ocean, and city skyline all in one bite in some places

>>211843869 (OP)
This room needs a plant.

>>211843869 (OP)
I want a view like this, but of pre 9/11 New York City with the Twin Towers, Statue of Liberty and other landmarks all in the same picture. Even if it means my fictional condo is technically in New Jersey.

>>211851154
damn this nigga hatin on the table legs

>>211858529

>>211861053
>So if you were a Jew in New York before... you could basically get housing for FREE?

>>211858577
I’m 40 and you just opened my eyes

>>211868556
A round tower library would be so sick to have. Like 15 feet of shelves and some windows all the way around with glass dome on top Some chairs and a booze globe in the center.

>>211850099
Why are there 9 different boxes of cereal in so many different cabinets and on the counter?

>>211858883
Heil Honey, I'm Home

>>211851729
Everything is fake now. I dont know if it can last, none of it makes any sense. Almost no one does anything of use, companies are moving numbers around on spreadsheets and calling it profit. 2008 f'd things up but covid made it even worse obviously. Everything seems like it could fail any day but it just keeps chugging crappily along getting worse.

>>211864375
Kick all foreigners out, exile all js and anyone that runs things like private equity firms (prob all js anyways) would be a start. Also send blacks back to Africa and huge parts of every city would be opened up to actually fix up for cheap for normal people and we wouldn't be spending like a trillion dollars on coddling and dealing with their consequences. Its not perfect but its a start.

>>211870322
Jerry likes cereal and wants variety.

>>211859951
Ive never lived but Ive visited people who live in them in and I came to the determination that unless you are rich enough to insulate yourself from the bullshit of living in a major city, suburbs are eternally more cozy.
t. chicagolander

>>211849907
>Jerod Butt

>>211868556
>TV in the bathroom

>>211849993
I've been wanting an Eames lounge chair for years. I'll likely just get a replica though, considering how ridiculously expensive they are.

>>211859341
>>211859341
Kinda interesting how the bot is triggered simply from the word 'Jewish' appearing in a post. Or maybe it needs to both be in a post and one that links to it.