Thread 211859060 - /tv/ [Archived: 1152 hours ago]

Anonymous
6/23/2025, 6:59:05 AM No.211859060
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BRAVO SNYDER!
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 7:03:53 AM No.211859214
>>211859060 (OP)
This wasn’t Snyder, after the man of steel debacle the studio forced Snyder to “marvelize” the dialogue so people wouldn’t think his Superman was a bitchy mopey pussy. It didn’t work.
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 7:04:58 AM No.211859241
SAVE.
MARTHA.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 7:06:59 AM No.211859299
Snyderverse will going to be restored this July. Screencap this.
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 7:07:55 AM No.211859326
The movie is referencing the fact that both of them are known for fucking Wonder Woman.
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 7:10:33 AM No.211859406
>>211859214
It just dawned on me right now that it's called Man of Steel not just because it is inspired by John Byrne's Man of Steel but because Batman had a huge hit with The Dark Knight and the entire focus was "gritty Superman."
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 7:11:48 AM No.211859438
>>211859299
>It really is just jeets coping
I thought that was a meme
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 7:12:59 AM No.211859474
>>211859326
so close! that's not WW in the image, that's just Gal Gadot!
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 7:13:16 AM No.211859483
>>211859299
kek
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 7:14:58 AM No.211859540
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>>211859060 (OP)
I thought it was funny
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 7:18:03 AM No.211859648
>>211859060 (OP)
it didnt make sense since Batman already met her and sent those emails
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 7:20:35 AM No.211859758
>>211859299
Very likely with the way Superman is tracking to be the next box office disappointment.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 7:22:21 AM No.211859842
>>211859060 (OP)
this is probably the only quip in all dc flicks I found actually funny
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 7:23:23 AM No.211859885
>>211859648
He thought she might be alien, like Superman, because of the super-powers. Stupid.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 7:24:07 AM No.211859900
>>211859299
It is pretty odd that Snyder has been very quiet and has nothing publicly scheduled or planned. It's like he knows something we don't.
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 7:25:20 AM No.211859936
>>211859900
It's almost like no studio wants to work with him now, even netflix is done with his talentless ass after both Army and Rebel Moon failed.
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 7:27:31 AM No.211860030
>>211859060 (OP)
how could Batman possibly think WW was with him? He met her and is the one that sent her a fucking email. obviously she's with you, batman.
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 7:28:31 AM No.211860068
>>211859406
how was that not always obvious? it's nothing like Byrne's run. It was obviously just an attempt to cash in on TDK's success with a similar naming scheme. They even had Nolan's name plastered on it as producer
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 7:29:44 AM No.211860122
>>211859648
>>211860030
He didn't recognize her in her secret identity costume
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 7:30:42 AM No.211860166
>>211859900
>>211859936
He's doing a cop movie for Netflix, an UFC movie about some random fighter rising up through the ranks, and adapting SNK game called Fatal Fury.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 7:32:30 AM No.211860246
>>211860030
He is talking about the bitch showing up with superpowers. Superpowers = kryptonian.
>>211860068
>how was that not always obvious? it's nothing like Byrne's run.
If you ignore the closing shit taken from World of Krypton, the birthing matrix taken from the mini, the execution of the kryptonians, Clark travelling the world, Lois being a red head, and so on.
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 7:32:45 AM No.211860255
>>211859540
You’re an autistic manchild with the intelligence and taste of a 15 year old.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 7:34:20 AM No.211860311
>>211860068
They adapted the "They all wanted a piece of me" bit from the mini. Otherwise, yeah. Would've been great if the first Batman/Superman meeting was "There is a bomb on someone in Metropolis. If you touch me, it goes off instantly," and then they team up and slowly trust each other but Snyder decided he wanted to film the TDKR fight.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 7:34:50 AM No.211860325
>>211860246
the birthing matrix is nothing like Byrne's other than the name. Byrne's birthing matrix had Superman slowly being created and born on Earth so as to make him not an immigrant, while in MoS he's explicitly born from natural conception on Krypton. Byrne's tone was far lighter than MoS, and Byrne's Superman explicitly didn't even care about his Kryptonian heritage. He was basically just a Kansas boy who happened to have powers, while MoS is super obsessed with it and is a constant messiah allegory.
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 7:36:27 AM No.211860412
>>211860325
That's because it mix Byrne's run with other run, but most of the shit from Byrne's run is there. There are bits from Morrison, Waid, and so on.
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 7:38:52 AM No.211860526
>>211860412
But it's nothing like most of those runs other than superficial references. One would be hard pressed to say MoS is "based on Byrne's run" because it has the birthing matrix despite it being completely different, or any other run of Superman for that matter.
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 7:42:00 AM No.211860670
>>211860526
The birthing matrix works differently, but Krypton being a barren and sterile place instead of the awesome window of our possible future, the kryptonians being all made by design and cold people instead of being all just and moral (aside from the criminals), and so on all came from Byrne.
You're focusing on one aspect but ignore the plethora of shit from his run that is in the movie, like the Black Zero.
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 7:46:06 AM No.211860839
>>211860670
It doesn't just "work differently" it serves an entirely different function in the narrative. The birthing matrix for Byrne was just a way for Superman to technically be born on Earth, because he wanted Superman to be a human first, and a superhero second. That's it. In MoS this is completely disregarded, and it's just a macguffin for Zod to go after, who also did not exist in Byrne's run because it was a big DC mandate that Superman be the only Kryptonian in the universe at the time.
>You're focusing on one aspect but ignore the plethora of shit from his run that is in the movie, like the Black Zero.
No, I'm not. The main core of Byrne's run is that Superman is Clark Kent first. He's a human boy from Kansas that happens to have powers. Him being an alien is incidental if anything. This is nothing like Man of Steel, where Superman is heavily invested in his Kryptonian heritage, and even doesn't even see the world as worth saving in BvS until he finds his love for it through Lois or some shit. He even says the S symbol doesn't matter because "it's from his world and his world is gone". This is completely incompatible with Byrne's Superman, who saw Earth as his world first and barely gave a shit about Krypton.
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 7:48:51 AM No.211860938
>>211860839
>and even doesn't even see the world as worth saving in BvS
I see, i am talking to a moron.
He said that because he felt guilty about the Metropolis incident and felt that maybe his involvement in situations maybe caused more problems. It was a moment of fragility.
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 7:50:45 AM No.211861024
>>211860938
It's not about it being a moment of fragility or not, it's about the entire separate worldviews the characters have. Byren's Superman would never say that, fragile or no because he just fundamentally did not view Krypton as his world. The only home he ever cared about was Earth. It would make as much sense as Batman saying Earth isn't his world. Snyder's Superman is much more tied to Krypton, and I don't even think there's anything wrong with that in a vacuum but it's absolutely not an adaption of Byrne's work other than superficial references.
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 7:52:29 AM No.211861111
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>>211860325
This. And Byrnes was completely against other Kryptonian survives so Zoe and his goons would’ve never been villains. He would’ve used The Eradicator which basically who Zod was in MOS. Trying to turn Earth into Krypton. The Eradicator is the one that uses the World Engine thing
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 7:53:04 AM No.211861124
>>211859326
Bruce has never fucked her lmao
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 7:54:48 AM No.211861193
>>211861024
Zack Snyder's Superman literally said that Krypton had its chance because he agreed with Jor-El that the planet, with its society and its inhabitants, as they were designed, was flawed to the core and would never result in something good. That's literally the philosophy behind those words.

When he talked about the "S" he talked about it being a representation of Krypton, not of him. Reminder that Clark kept saving people throughout his life before he even donned the suit. Snyder's Superman was a hero not because of the costume or the name, but because he was just being himself. He could go on being a hero while remaining anonymous.
>>211861111
They mixed things here and there.
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 7:57:24 AM No.211861303
>>211861193
Yeah and Snyder's Superman was also heavily conflicted over his Kryptonian heritage. He refers to Krypton as "my world" many times. When explaining to Lois his symbol he says it stands for hope on "-my- world". It's not even a critique of Snyder's interpretation, there's many runs of Superman where he's like this, but Byrne's is not one of them. The core conceit of Byrne's run is that Superman is just a normal guy who happens to have powers who was born on Earth. He didn't even develop his powers until he grew up, again unlike Snyder and many other interpretations. Byrne's Superman is basically Spider-Man with a different powerset.

There's no way one can say that MoS is an adaption of Byrne's work with any sincerity.
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 7:58:48 AM No.211861347
>>211861303
>>211861193
even him killing Zod in MoS is supposed to be sad, because now Superman/Clark is the last of his kind and he got rid of his own species. Which again, would never be a theme in Byrne's work because his Superman sees himself as human, not Kryptonian.
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 8:01:20 AM No.211861424
>>211860670
John Byrne is probably the first one to really go for Clark Kent being the real persona, and Superman being what he becomes to help people (there's some aspects on that during the Bronze Age, but not as blatant).

I can't imagine how Byrne's Ma and Pa Kent could be more different from the Kents in the Snyder movie.
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 8:01:47 AM No.211861439
>>211861303
>Yeah and Snyder's Superman was also heavily conflicted over his Kryptonian heritage.
Same as Byrne's.
>He refers to Krypton as "my world" many times. When explaining to Lois his symbol he says it stands for hope on "-my- world".
Taken from Mark Waid's Birthright. Like i said, they mix things from Byrne and more recent interpretations.
>The core conceit of Byrne's run is that Superman is just a normal guy who happens to have powers who was born on Earth. He didn't even develop his powers until he grew up
That's exactly what happens in Man of Steel. Clark developed his powers slowly throughout his childhood and teens, Clark saved people before putting on the suit because that's who he is, Clark travelled the world to find himself, Clark could have lived his entire life being a hero without ever becoming Superman, and when he learned about Krypton and how awful Kryptonians are he gave up on them.
>>211861347
>even him killing Zod in MoS is supposed to be sad, because now Superman/Clark is the last of his kind and he got rid of his own species.
Or because he killed someone. Throughout all the movies Superman only ever kills Zod/Doomsday, nobody else.
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 8:01:55 AM No.211861445
>>211861303
Golden Age Superman was like this at well. Kryron is hardly mentioned.
Didn’t even have a name for years. It was the Silver Age got all obsessed with Kryton and bringing all these Krytonian survivors it become a joke only people that died on Krytron was Superman’s parents. Why Brynes put a no survivor rule. Too bad all Silver Age faggot fanboys undid it all
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 8:02:54 AM No.211861475
>>211861424
>John Byrne is probably the first one to really go for Clark Kent being the real persona, and Superman being what he becomes to help people (there's some aspects on that during the Bronze Age, but not as blatant).
And that's why Snyder was against Cavill hamming it up as Clark in BvS.
>I can't imagine how Byrne's Ma and Pa Kent could be more different from the Kents in the Snyder movie.
Pa Kent in MoS was inspired by Waid's Birthright.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 8:05:54 AM No.211861578
>>211859060 (OP)
To be fair while Batman met WW he also had zero idea where she came from. That being said Superman was never seen to be associated with her.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 8:06:39 AM No.211861599
>>211861424
Bryne’s was wrong. Because Superman isn’t Peter Parker. He wasn’t some nerd that got bit by a a spider and turned into spider man. He’s an alien with super powers from another planet. He wears bo mask to cover his face. It’s already ridiculous people wouldn’t know who he was with a pair of glasses on. But that’s whole point of Superman. This guy who you think is a total loser nerd is actually a alien God
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 8:08:24 AM No.211861662
>>211861439
>Same as Byrne's.
No. that's the problem it's the opposite with Byrne's. Byrne's Superman was not conflicted at all about his heritage. Him being an alien was incidental. Byrne probably would've retconned him being Kryptonian at all if he could.
>Taken from Mark Waid's Birthright. Like i said, they mix things from Byrne and more recent interpretations.
Do you mean the dialogue or the symbol? And like I said, it's superficial. It's not an adaption of Byrne's work anymore than it is Waid's.
>That's exactly what happens in Man of Steel. Clark developed his powers slowly throughout his childhood and teens, Clark saved people before putting on the suit because that's who he is, Clark travelled the world to find himself, Clark could have lived his entire life being a hero without ever becoming Superman, and when he learned about Krypton and how awful Kryptonians are he gave up on them.
No, he had powers as a child in MoS as evidenced when he saved the bus. Byrne's Superman didn't have any powers until he was grown, because he wanted him to just be a normal guy that got powers.
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 8:13:06 AM No.211861805
>>211861662
Byrne's Superman before learning more about Krypton was, indeed, conflicted about his alien nature and travelled throughout the world doing a bunch end-jobs here and there while doing some soul searching.
That shit was lifted directly from Byrne's run.
>No, he had powers as a child in MoS as evidenced when he saved the bus.
Not all his powers, anon. Same with Byrne's run. In Byrne's run a young Clark saved Pa Kent by lifting his heavy machinery. Does that mean he had all his powers by then? Of course not. There is a reason why Pa Kent was afraid for Clark. The movie even establish that he had never even attempted to fly yet.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 8:43:41 AM No.211862777
>>211859299
>Snyderverse will going to be restored

HELLO SARS

Daily reminder that only 20% of pajeets have access to the internet. It could be way worse.
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 9:07:50 AM No.211863580
>>211859060 (OP)
If you think this is bad, Gunn has a whole lot of shlock waiting for you.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 9:35:05 AM No.211864432
>>211859214
>it wasn't the real Snyder
The real Snyder made man of shit and now you can see him flopping on Netshit.
He never even achieved mediocrity
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 9:36:09 AM No.211864470
>>211859900
His not!Starwars universe and zombie universe were canned.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 9:37:55 AM No.211864508
>>211860412
That's called "paying lip service"
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 9:40:47 AM No.211864619
>>211859474
That's an ugly af version of Xena.
Gal Gadot wouldn't be able to lift a sword and shield, which don't belong to the Wonder Woman character btw
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:08:25 AM No.211865398
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>>211859060 (OP)
BRAVA SNYDER

BRA FUCKING VA
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:14:39 AM No.211865572
>>211859540
It's one of the better lines of the moobie
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:19:04 AM No.211865671
>>211862777
FUCK YOU BLOODY PAKI BASTARD BITCH!
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:23:41 AM No.211865801
>>211865398
>the ugly, the fat an the dead
Wasn't there a parody of a western with the same name?
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:27:55 AM No.211865898
>>211859299
>Snyderverse will going to be redeemed this July
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:28:28 AM No.211865916
>>211865398
>there's a fucking cross

fuck you Snyder you fucking hack
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:33:36 AM No.211866037
>>211865916
In America this is deep symbolism