What is your opinion on Cheers?

>>211876745 (OP)
Not as good as people want to admit

>>211876745 (OP)
Comfy as fuck and surprisingly solid, but not a timless masterpiece or anything. Definitely one of my favorite shows to catch marathons of on Nick at Nite back in the day.

And I don't usually like skinny girls, but Shelley Long was pretty gorgeous here. Kirstie Allie wasn't half bad as a replacement, and her dynamic with Sam was refreshing.

>>211877889
Fraiser seems to be more beloved.

>Hey, it's Ted Danson
>It's payback time

I wussed out and can't complete the season where Diane is supposed to leave because I don't want to move on. But I guess I'll just bite the bullet. Diane is so sweet though.

>>211876745 (OP)
Good background noise show. Not that interesting to really pay much attention too.

>>211880632
Frasier is the latest installment and had a Netflix revival so you can see how it can still be a household name. Cheers' final season finale did record breaking numbers. It's a cultural icon of north american media and has been referenced throughout the years in various other entertainment so it has its influence. But yeah no its time in the sun has long come and gone. Not a bad show at all to get into. Especially if you were born sometime in that era. Always refreshing to get a little blast from the past sometimes, you know?

>>211876745 (OP)
It's one of the best sitcoms ever made.

>>211880911
>But yeah no

>>211876745 (OP)
Not seen it in years

So who is the favorite here, Coach or Woody?

>>211876745 (OP)
Sam Malone would be considered a sex pest today.
>>211883518
Woody

>>211883518
Coach, he did more for the show. They both work great but the earlier seasons were a bit rougher, making Coach's humor more impactful.

>>211876745 (OP)
If you don't like Cheers
you must be a Queers

>>211876745 (OP)
Shelley Long

>>211876745 (OP)
Always hated this show. Never understood what a bar was at the time but I hated the location where 99% of the show took place. Theme song is goated however.

>>211876745 (OP)
Diane herself wasn't necessarily the problem, but the show wasn't very funny until after she left. Most episodes had like 1 decent joke and many times I didn't even laugh at all in an episode. Sam and Diane have almost zero chemistry, it seems entirely forced by Diane (and at one point Sam I guess). Sam and Rebecca have much more natural chemistry, which is kind of ironic, since the premise is Sam forcing it because he can't stand that there's someone who's not into him.
Coach was pretty much the only funny character in early seasons but once you get to the Rebecca seasons everyone is decently funny. Still not as funny as shows that came after it though. It's comfy, at least. But even in terms of comfy sitcoms there are shows that are consistently funnier.

>>211876745 (OP)
In the early seasons I liked Coach. Feels like it only becomes consistently funny when Diane leaves.

>>211887993
>>211888427
Basically you watched what would become Fraiser writing staff slowly take over the show. Last few seasons of cheers is basically pre fraiser from a writing perspective. Fraiser is just late cheers with different characters.
Everybody talks about coach vs woody they are the exact same comedic device so it's just who you liked better as the actor/character. Coach=woody.

I didn't like the characters of Coach and Diane so after they were gone the show was good to me

Becoming a regular at a dive bar is comfy as hell. Do not go to any cheers branded bullshit in Boston. Find an Irish place in southie or some italian place on the north end. Bantz like a Masshole but don’t get stabbed. Actually those fucking places are gentrified by now.

>>211876745 (OP)
My 1924 model grandfather used to love this show.

>>211876745 (OP)
Kino.

adulthood is becoming either Cliff or Norm

>>211876745 (OP)
I love it, RIP Coach

>>211876745 (OP)
kino until coach left/died

>>211887993
That's why John Cleese shows up to tell them they're a terrible couple and Diane is too autistically in denial to accept reality. Their entire relationship was just her calling Sam a retard 1000 times while annoying the hell out of him. I get why Sam liked her on some physical level but surgically removing her was the only way to go, and the jokes made about her after she left were funnier than anything Diane said or did. Cliff, Norm and Carla made for a pretty funny trio during the Coach seasons too btw

>>211880762
She's a truly terrible character who only becomes worse until they finally get rid of her.

>>211880911
Looking back Cheers is 10x more rewatchable since it's an ensemble show whereas Frasier fucking up a date/disappointing his dad or doing something snobby with his brother wears thin a lot faster

>>211896385
Have to say the more I watch cheers the more I agree with this. That it is just that I've watched fraiser so much that I can almost recite every episode so I read the description and go "nope already know all the jokes on that one... next"
Cheers however I'm still not bored of and have watched it a ton recently.

>>211876745 (OP)
What do you guys think of Carla's ex Nick episodes? I think those are the weakest episodes.

>>211896520
Also just how Frasier has far more utterly insufferable characters in it that make the later seasons incredibly unfunny (Daphne's family), while Cheers' biggest asshole was the French guy who barely shows up anyway

>>211891781
>White Florida
Lmao

>>211896622
Nick's one of my favorite characters. The actor's body language, speech pattern, accent and jokes make him effortlessly hilarious

>>211894748
>>211894614
Truek

>>211896714
I agree he's great at the character, I just think they are weaker episodes and find myself skipping over them. Kind of like the rich guy episodes that Rebecca is obsessed with, great character, just gets old maybe idk.

Shelly Long to that beautiful fat pig was the smoothest transition

>>211897011
Best Rebeccarri. I agree saarr

>>211891781
>west protugal
How it does happen?

>>211896973
I like how he goes through this arc of ups and downs while being a consistent slimeball

>>211897112
Keep in mind I'm somebody who's seen every episode a dozen times. I thought he was great first few watches just found myself skipping those eps after awhile. I think it's the writing on general, I'm very autistic when it comes to writing credits and composition and story ext.

>>211894748
It was still good without him. It was the insistence of the Sam/Diane relationship that caused the quality to slowly drop. It was supposed to be an ensemble show but that arc started to become a central focus far too often.

>>211897293
>Enough, even though it is blatantly obvious to everyone else but you, You two have always been in what I guess the word for it is love and always will be, you love each other and you hate each other, and you hate yourselves for loving each other, you two are in hell, and you know what my dear friends I want no further part of it, it's time to put humpty dumpty back together again, so you two go ahead and get on with your denial fest!
It had some kino moments though.

Unbeliveable kino comedy. Funny and comfy. But I think the REBECCA years are better than the DIANE years and you will never change my mind on this.

>>211894748
>kino until coach left/died
I thought it was better without him. Woody was like Coach but he was more aww shucks country bumpkin and his brain just didn't move fast enough compared to the big city folk.
Coach seemed like he was brain damaged or legit dumb. And so many of his eps were "tonight on a very special Cheers" where Coach cries over some hit.

>>211880911
>Cheers' final season finale did record breaking numbers.
well there weren't that many options in the 80's and 90's

>>211897711
Kelsey really did mog them all hard when it came to serious acting.
Who else on the show could compete?

Is it too late for me to start watching it now or has it aged badly?

>>211897957
>has it aged badly?
Stop with this logic you fucking retard. There is a 99.999% chance that if something was great in the 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s that it's still great today.

>>211897957
Depends on how tiktok brained you are. If not then you'll like it and will probably become one of your favorite go to shows for comfiness.
It's definitely the 80's but it only adds to the charm and comfy setting that it is representative of. Enjoy anon

>>211897924
>Who else on the show could compete?
Bebe

>>211898218
The only thing I ever saw her in, not cheers or fraiser was jumanji.
Any bebe kino you can recommend to convince me? She's sexy af can't believe she played the "ugly" girl so well.

>>211887804
I agree. I never cared for sitcoms in general and Cheers seemed so especially dull being stuck in the same setting episode after episode, even more so than other shows

>>211898528
>Any bebe kino you can recommend to convince me?
No, not really. She was more of a Broadway actor (I think she demanded they write her off of Cheers to be in a show and she won a Tony that year, I think)

>>211891781
>pumpkins and anarchists
Man, I wonder how many people even get that joke now. It's officially been over a decade since the Pumpkinfest riot.

Went to crap post Shelly Long.