How do you respond without sounding mad?

camera flash

amogus

>>211889073 (OP)
who makes the claim that photographers are artists or that photographs are art? pebblethrow L

>>211889073 (OP)
The camera didn’t make it, it only captured it. The ‘art’ was already there.

>>211889217
Is that not the "joke"? He's pointing a machine at something and pressing a button to create an image?

>>211889281
If an AI made it then the art was already there somewhere in its data set.

>>211889073 (OP)
'Toss is stretching so much there he's Reed Richards

>>211889073 (OP)
Easy: AI content is created without any effort at all, whereas the photographer had to pick the right machine, lens, subject matter, be on location, keep composition in mind, all the AI nigger did was press a button with "create thing", he didn't create jack fucking shit, if photography is so easy as this retard wants to imply then why doesn't he do it himself, let's see how successful he's going to be at it

>>211889341
he's not very bright

>>211889341
Seething philistine very sad about how he lost :( lol :)

>>211889217
kek at this mad motherfucker. have you tried crying about it?

>>211889392
Go ahead, generate a good picture right now if it's so easy

Digital photography is not art. 99% of film photography is not art.

Can't this guy's comics remotely seriously anymore after seeing what he actually looks like
Behind these comics of smug bravado is some fat dork with yellow fever. Top kek

>>211889392
speak for yourself, I'm a Prompt Engineer

Stonetoss' real name is Hans Christian Graebner. He lives in Texas and is an IT professional

>>211889515
>>211889533
very jewish counterargument

>>211889505
>aaaaa prompting is sooo hard
AI keks are on another level

>>211889073 (OP)
i mean
a camera is digital but still takes in a real primary source
the issue with ai is that it loses primary context and is fueled by non primary media and soon will be fueled by itself
what happens when ai is referencing its own creations as a source?
that when any notion of a reality is lost

>>211889561

I'm not making a counterargument, I'm disrespecting him.

>>211889574
It's certainly easy, where's your pic?

>>211889217
Every major art museum has a photography section.

>>211889585
so is mixed media real art?

>>211889645
with real photographs of real things taken by real people

>>211889073 (OP)
Pebblethrow latches onto every fad that comes by
remember when he was selling NFTs

more like Hams Christian Graebner if you ask me

>>211889505
Zero effort

>>211889903
>>211889533
Absolutely zero proof this is him

>>211889903
What a chad

>>211889073 (OP)
Nazi with a botched circumcision lul

>>211889515
> with yellow fever
Fucking of course

>>211889903
Why does the white woman have to live in Japan?

>>211889392
i never understood why people keep talking about "effort" in regards to the validity of art
if it looks like shit, it's shit
if it looks good, it's good
it's literally that simple. "intention" doesn't matter unless you're a fart smelling hipster

>>211889392

Basically this. It takes a lot of actual knowledge and skill to make the picture one has in one´s mind.

>>211890491
>>Art is whether a pikcha is pretty or not
Do burgerbrains really?

>>211890391
jesus fucking christ the cringe is off the charts

>>211889585
>is fueled by non primary media and soon will be fueled by itself
You're literally describing "artistry"

>>211889128
>>211889180
I Spy for incels

>>211889646
its just a combination of primary phenomena, artistic things created by humans should also be considered primary phenomena
the only this changes is if AI uses some sort measurement to observe phenomena itself instead of taking in created media and creating a composite

>>211889645
Gotta get that funding.

>>211889217
>who makes the claim that photographers are artists
Artfags in the 19th century when it was invented.

>>211890561
mad that your banana taped to a wall or ai shart isn't real art?

>>211890758
That's quite the pivot.

>>211889505
took less than 5 minutes. might use it for a dnd campaign

>>211889281
and who placed the art there to be captured? G-D

>>211890860
alright, give me a better definition of art then

>>211889645
>Every major art museum
they also have paints made with mentrual blood

>>211890945
I think it would be better for your personal development if you found that out for yourself.

the shit sloppers think passes as a good illustration, never mind art, is baffling

>>211890593
humans still have an observable basis in reality granting authenticity to their work, even if derivative
Ai needs the same for them to be on the same level

>>211891083
hold on everybody some probably-brown 4channeler is here to teach us about the philosophy of art

>>211889505

>>211889281
> The paintbrush and canvas did not make it, it only captured it, the ‘art’ was already there.

>>211891022
so you have no actual contention and were just offended, got it

>>211890896
>jeets and jews giving money to tranny.jpg

>>211891170
>the ‘art’ was already there.

>fascist bootlicker
>likes AI
Wow much surprise

>>211891149
hey this is fun

>>211891148
why attack?
what do you disagree with about my position
why not talk about that.
i can be wrong but am just giving my opinion
humans are still the first interpreters of reality and unless ai has the same ability to do so themselves they are not equivalent to humans

>>211891328
actually this has been debunked

>>211890391
i like how people post shit like this and then do absolutely nothing while nazis take over the world fuck off

>>211889073 (OP)
I don't really get it. There's a lot that goes into capturing an image. You can't just hold the camera up to the subject, press the button, and get the image. There's a lot to consider, kind of a false equivalency, but that's Stonetoss for you.

>>211891307
>Trying to shame him with a picture didn't work
>Now I need to call him a fascist
Are you retarded? Do you actually understand where you are? Watch this,
>>211890896
This guy is a niggerfaggot.

See? Wow! Nobody cares!

>>211891214
just like your last birthday

>>211891307
You leftfags cheered as your open borders and spic horde took away our jobs, now AI about to take yours. Get fucked

>>211889392
Using the online prompt generators is like just using your iPhone to take pictures of shit. The right machine, lens, subject matter, etc. can all be done with AI art using workflows that only a few people will bother with.

You can have effort with AI. Most people just choose not to put in that effort.

>Still makes nazis seethe over a hundred years later

>>211891426
>You can't just hold the camera up to the subject, press the button, and get the image
That's genuinely all it takes. "Art" in 1 second with the press of your finger.
Hence my earlier claim that digital photography is not art, and 99% of film photography is not art. Even in the best of cases, the circumstances of the world are creating the "art" and the photographer is just pressing a button to capture it.

>>211891426
>You can't just hold the camera up to the subject, press the button, and get the image.
You certainly can, they make point and click cameras for children, which is exactly the equivalent of those user friendly AI sites where you just put in a prompt and it shits out an image.

>>211891658
so is drawing with a stick in the dirt more artistic than using as bunch of purpose built labor saving tools and thouroughly researched dyes and chemicals?

>>211889073 (OP)
god made that bug

>>211890896
Why do you need a visual aid for such a basic tavern scene in a game that has always been rendered in its players' imaginations. Is it an aphantasia thing?

>>211891761
A crude drawing of a person has more artistry than a photographic portrait of that person

>>211891885
Well D&D is for women now, so yes

>>211891928
i was referring to painting, i should've elaborated

>>211889073 (OP)
I can no longer take Stonetoss seriously after he got doxxed and turned out to be a fat brown spic.