Serious question, what kind of hole did Cavill dig himself in to piss off WB so much while Momoa, Gal, and even Ezra seemed to roll just fine.

>>211902557 (OP)
He actually liked the source material and wanted to deliver a good product. Nothing pisses off producers more than that.

>>211902677

/thread

>>211902557 (OP)
Momoa, Gal and Ezra just nodded whenever the producer told them to do something. Cavill would cock his head and say "Are you sure? That doesn't seem like something Superman would do..." because he actually engrosses himself in the source material whenever he plays a character. Its the same reason he bailed on the Witcher. They producers on that had no fucking idea what they were talking about. Meanwhile his nerd ass had read every book cover to back 3 times and could cite specific pages that applied to a scene they were doing

>>211902677
he cant even act

>>211902949
all (((producers))) and (((executives))) should be painfully killed

>>211902677
Aparently he went gran autismo with the lore when he was in the Witcher series (which pissed off a lot of execs and script writers), so I wouldn't be surprised.

I haven't read/played/watched any of the witcher stuff, but it makes me pretty happy knowing that there is at least one person in hollywood who actually gives a shit about respecting established lore. His involvement is why I am cautiously optimistic about the 40k stuff.

>>211902557 (OP)
>Serious question, what kind of hole did Cavill dig himself in to piss off WB so much while Momoa, Gal, and even Ezra seemed to roll just fine.

Momoa and Gal's movies did very well, while Man of Steel didn't. It's that simple. Ezra didn't have his flop yet so he was still on good terms until he wasn't, that was just a matter of time.

Also he's kind of a shit actor. Which isn't unique here but again, Momoa and Gal's first movies did well.

>>211902982
He's pretty good in Man from UNCLE and Ungentlemanly Warfare. He's also decent in Immortals.

>>211902677
>>211902949
He actually reportedly preferred working with Whedon over Snyder and likes his Superman better lmao.

>>211903175
I liked The Man from UNCLE. It's a shame it flopped.

>>211903175
idk I find his American accent super unconvincing, especially in Man from UNCLE. he also just kind of has wooden delivery.

Cavill is a nice guy who likes Superman. He’s old school committed, profesional and doesn’t fit with the degenerate/effeminate/white-loathing scumbag activist Hollywood type. Mamoa is the clown sex toy of old hag producers, Godot is a talentless but astroturfed Jew model and Miller is precisely the Hollywood type I just mentioned: An absolute piece of filth degenerate Marxist parasite Jew who despises natural order. So he’s not only loved but protected by these rats no matter what he does.

>>211903445
Cavil should just crowdfund his movie projects. There's enough autists to give him money, see: Star Citizen.

>>211902557 (OP)
>James Gunn claims something no one can prove

I ticket to not watching superman please

>>211903566
it's pretty consistent with everything else though. They wanted to dump Cavill which is why he got nothing after JL, but then The Rock, in his effort to change the hierarchy of the DC universe, wanted to set up a Cavill Superman vs Black Adam showdown so he went over the heads of DC Studios to WB and convinced them to bring Cavill back and cameo in Black Adam, but that movie flopped and leadership changed so they did away with it.

>>211902557 (OP)
It’s a combination of factors. Basically WB didn’t want Cavill who was associated with Snydershit but they were bound to his contract (one more appearance) which Cavill was holding out for a fully fledged movie, so WB avoided the character like the plague. Cavill fulfilled his contract by appearing in Black Adam which the rock and his ex-wife(Cavill’s manager) convinced him that was the future and everything would be alright. Abdy and De Luca assured him too. A month later Gunn fires Cavill and here we are now.

Allegedly Tobey Emmerich really really hated Cavill and wanted Gunn to direct Superman back in 2018/2019, outright rejecting Christopher McQuarrie’s proposal because “if Gunn won’t do it nobody can.”

>>211902557 (OP)
>no no, don't think about old superman, he was bad
>new superman so good

>>211902557 (OP)
There wont be a better superman than cavil. He just looks perfect as superman.

>>211903219
Retard

>>211903219
Even if that was true he sure as hell wouldn’t tell anybody.

>>211903445
What you said about Ezra is factually and observably untrue outside of the Jew part. He literally backed out of Hollywood willingly over frustration with constant sexual assault by freemasonic producers, and to avoid tabloids and stalkers. You retards come out of the woodwork every thread with these dumbfoundingly hyperbolic observations that are founded on pure delusion and stupidity. Tabloids
aren't real life you fucking jackass.

>>211904001
He more or less has said it without dogging on Snyder too much. It's also pretty obviously true given that Cavill is the one that chose to use the more colorful suit with the hair curl in his Black Adam cameo vs the all black edgy Snyderverse one.

>>211903113
i feel so bad for him
i wish he got the reigns instead of jeety shankar

>>211904217
He chose the Man of Steel suit out of nostalgia. There is no actual black suit, that was done in post. The JL suit is red and blue like the other. Finally the black suit isn’t even edgy you dimwit, it’s the comic accurate resurrection suit. If the color black automatically = edgy your brain is fried.

>>211902557 (OP)
>cares about the quality more than an average actor
>doesnt want to suck jewish cocks to get the protection and praise
>was hit with the streak of unlucky productions (Snyder, Wticher shit)

If he sucked the bunch of jewish cocks he'd probably make it up to the top, but i guess being 40+ good lad with an autism made him reconsider his life choices and follow the passions (WH40k).
Good for him desu.

>>211904460
I don’t like him dressed like that. He needs a MAGA hat.

>>211902557 (OP)
In addition to him caring about the lore which others mentioned, he just generally doesn't seem to fit in with Hollywood culture personality-wise. He seems quite introverted, and never appeared to enjoy being a sex symbol.

>>211903167
Ezra was allowed to write his own script and chase one of the potential directors away in 2019 because he didn't find that script edgy enough. Flash movie probably could have come out years earlier had they not started over that last time.
Then he heemed that fatchick in 2020 and WB still didn't recast him even though the movie didn't start filming until 2021 lol

>>211904457
>it's the comic accurate resurrection suit
Except in the comic he wears it because he's weakened and is using it as a solar panel to recharge. In the movie he's just wearing it because Snyder thought black looked cool. So yeah, edgy.

>>211904457
He didn't have the hair curl in MoS and even in the entire interviews surrounding the cameo he talks about how much he loves that he's getting a chance to play a happy joyful Superman now.

> it’s the comic accurate resurrection suit.
No it isn't. If he wanted to make it comic accurate he would've removed the cape and given him a mullet. We all know Snyder just chose it because he likes black.

>>211905007
The Flash’s development woes hinged less on Ezra and more WB wanting to use it as a universe resetter which a lot of directors (who Ezra himself valued) weren’t interested in. Andy Muschietti was a compromise and his movie predictably came out bland. Ideally The Flash should’ve been a Flashpoint Paradox adaptation which is basically a JL movie with Flash as the main character capitalizing on a Jeffrey D.M. Batman.

>>211905332
honestly I'm not even sure there was any ideal Flashpoint movie so early. The entire appeal of seeing these characters as alternate versions is lost when we barely know them to begin with. Plus Snyder's Batman was already a grizzled edgelord killer who we saw using guns so as cool as JDM as Thomas Wayne would be that effect would also be lost as there's no contrast to the mainline Batman.

>>211905477
Tbf Batfleck didn’t use guns outside of tactical use. JDM could go full akimbo and that would be a solid notch up from Affleck.

>>211902949
He went bald because of the stress of seeing producers and execs rape source materials.

>>211902557 (OP)
This revisionist history by Snyder here is hilarious. Cavill been called a charisma void and even on here. Then because he said he like Witcher and Warhammer spergs on here where “he’s me.” Cavill is a very boring actor with zero presence. Why the WB demanded after MOS fell off a cliff Batman be in the next one.

>>211905621
we saw Affleck use guns in the apocalypse world scene already. I get it's an alternate future or w/e but they already blew their load on the impact of seeing a grizzled old Batman using guns with that.

>>211902990
Based and co-signed.

>>211906912
>revisionist history
That's you though, you dishonest rat.

Even back then you already have people saying he's actually fine in stuff like Man from Uncle (which was reasonably well liked here when they get mentioned) and that it's casting issues. Maybe you should have watched movies and seen the stuff he's actually been in beyond the big name blockbusters.

>>211906912
The only part of the internet that regularly state that Cavill is charisma void is 4chan, notoriously famous for being the shithole of lobbying corporations' Interests.
Ask why was Cavill consistently dunking on here and you will have your answer (Jews don't like him).

>>211907075
I saw his ass in The Tudors and thought he was as bad pick for Superman as soon as he was announced. He’s bland as fuck

>>211902949
>>211902677
He is a monkey paid to read the lines. It's not his place to halt the production and chud-out about how Geralt would achually wear black leather gloves instead of brown. People who actually know about writing and making kino have already painstakingly thought things through. They don't need justify themselves to a line-reciter

>>211907096
Cavill was not well received as Superman. Just like Cavill losers are crying about the new guy, same went with Smallville fans demanding Tom Welling and hating on Cavill for being Brit and not an American playing Superman

henry cavill has no acting range, he's a cool bro and all but he's fucking boring to watch, cavill is such a bro though

If want to talk about an actor that actually for fucked over as Superman not Cavill but Brandon Routh. He was very good in a poorly made movie and deserved another shot under better direction

>>211907193
>He is a monkey paid to read the lines.
I pay to see Cavill not some flavor of the month producer.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxbL6hSRf0g
he's just like me fr

>>211903219
not surprised, his superman actually got to be cheesy and innocent

The Count of Monte Cristo (2002) - Albert Mondego
Tristan + Isolde (2006) - Melot
Stardust (2007) - Humphrey
Red Riding Hood (2006) - The Hunter (so bad its good? comically cheesy, idk i just liked him in it and liked it..but maybe was really drunk)
Blood Creek (2009) - Evan Marshall
The Tudors (2007) - Charles Brandon
Immortals (2011) - Theseus
The Man from U.N.C.L.E.(2015) - Solo
Man of Steel (2013) - Clark Kent/Kal-El (I liked him for superman but the character/story was so poorly planned/written)
Enola Holmes (2020) - Sherlock Holmes (netflix slop and clearly he was not the best for Sherlock but it still works)
The Witcher (2019) - Geralt of Rivia (best Geralt)
The Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare - Gus March-Phillips
Argylle (2024) - Argylle

I think these are all or most the things i remember him in and so not counting an equal number of things I didn't see or just didn't have an impact on me.
I think he's typed cast a a bit of handsome stoic character type but he has shown in multiple things that he can branch out into other forms of acting.

also: Deadpool & Wolverine (2024) - The Cavillrine (LOL)
also also: he has like 8+ things that are upcoming including; Highland, Voltron.

so i just like the guy and hopes he can keep acting.

now i go back to drinking and streaming really dumb shows like The Rookie: FEDS cause i haven't seen it and don't want to

>>211908600
save it for your diary next time faggot

>>211907209
Oy vey

>>211907193
motherfucker have fucking see what your "professional writers" (in reality, they were all nepo jews and diversity hires with no experience) did to The Witcher series? It's arguably the cringiest and worst written series of the decade, and an insult to the original books

>>211904143
this image alone proves >>211903445
and invalidates your shilling

>>211907307
Brandon Routh is better as The Atom

>>211908822
Victims of abuse and rape frequently make themselves look worse or neglect personal hygiene to push people away so this just fits exactly with what he said

>>211908869
He’s good at both. I liked his Superman. Too bad Singer made a shitty movie

>>211909056
Didnt he also play an alternative earth Superman in a few episodes.
I need to rewatch the Arrowverse shows, they are campy crap but it felt like the ppl where still trying to make it fun.

>>211909176
Yes, and he showed what a good Superman he was with better material. Sadly had to come for CW show

>>211907307
He was okay, but let's be honest he only got cast because he looked like Christopher Reeve.

>>211909404
Pretty sure they cast Cavill for similar reasons

>>211907140
He kinda comes off like one of those reddit fancasts where they just cast based on visual similarity alone and not considering acting ability whatsoever. though honestly what the fuck was the deal with DCEU casting? Cavill I can at least get since he does look the part, but Jesse Eisenberg, Ezra Miller, Jared Leto and Amy Adams were all fucking terribly casted. what was Snyder thinking?

>>211903219
Snyder is a hack anon. Whedon is too but at least component

>>211909476
nah they cast Cavill since he looked like Superman and was huge and they knew they wanted to make it a big action slopfest to differentiate it from the Returns version, not because he looked specifically like Reeve. Cavill actually tried out for Superman Returns and lost it to Routh because Routh looked more like Reeve.

Routh is a bit more charming than Cavill though and probably a better actor overall.

>>211902557 (OP)
He wouldn't stop obnoxiously making fun of the producers for confusing Aeldari with Drukhari

>>211903219
Even Ray praised Whedon when that movie came out. Ask yourself why.

>>211905295
>No it isn't. If he wanted to make it comic accurate he would've removed the cape and given him a mullet. We all know Snyder just chose it because he likes black.
He couldn't do that because he was adding black and silver elements to the red and blue suit. He was adding to the already shot scenes. That's why he couldn't add a mullet or take out the cape.

>>211909498
>eisenberg
kinda made sense for the mark zuckerberg esque take they were going for
>ezra miller
>jared leto
yeah no fucking idea
>amy adams
i get that she liked the character but she was too old by then, they should’ve cast a hot actress in her 20s

>>211902557 (OP)
>ugh you're just holding onto [sic] the past
yeah that past when we had a better superman

>>211902557 (OP)
>while Momoa, Gal, and even Ezra seemed to roll just fine
none of those other people feuded with entrenched jewish show business dons.

>>211910845
the cape is CGI anon if they wanted to take it out they could

>>211903113
>e went gran autismo with the lore when he was in the Witcher series (which pissed off a lot of execs and script writers)
AKA he pointed out there were actual saboteurs on set who were dressing up people in dick costumes. Unsurprisingly the only other person to care about the source material also hate everyone else who was on the show.
If you actually bothered to read what they were saying it was all baseless womanly seething over him refusing to do nude scenes.

>>211910961
Doesn't change that Snyder was merely changing the colors of already shot scenes with VFX work done on them. It is easier to just change colors, blue to black, red to silver, than it is to do everything else.

>>211910884
Cavill doesn’t have chemistry with any female. If you can’t have chemistry with Amy Adams, you’re hopeless. She’s the only Christian Bale ever had chemistry with. Nolan blew it not casting her as Rachel instead of Katie Homes. Bale had such good chemistry with her she read lines with him for Begins
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xXsh3NW_f5A

>>211911152
i will say of all the things you can say about the new superman it does actually come off like gunn's lois wants to fuck superman

>>211911273
It’s vital. It’s mocked Margo Kidder being Lois but once you look at auditions of all actresses that tried out she had the best chemistry with Reeve. Wolverine wasn’t suppose to cuck Cyclops in the X Men movie but Jackman and Janssen hit off so much even raging homo Singer couldn’t ignore it

>>211903175
No he's not. He has same voice, body language and expression in all his movies

>>211911431
>Margo Kidder being Lois but once you look at auditions of all actresses that tried out she had the best chemistry with Reeve
kinda funny since she admitted she wasn't attracted to him and imagined he was Harrison Ford

>>211911483
True

>>211907193
I can't take anyone who reads the horus heresy seriously.

Cavill is much better than Momoa. Momoa ruins everything he is in and has no range

>>211908344
Cavill doing a video with Linus or Jay would have been good.

>>211911775
Momoa is also a pedophile, and Cavill isn't

>>211911775
>Momoa ruins everything he is in and has no range
He was okay on Stargate Atlantis.

>>211912102
because all he did was grunting.
Poor man's Teal'C

>>211911775
they both have no range but momoa seems like he's having more fun and isn't as wooden so I prefer him. as long as he's cast right.

>>211902557 (OP)
The mustache scandal really pissed them off (even though it was Paramount that refused to let him shave it).